Sheriff Arpaio Sued Over Racial Profiling Of Latinos

Arizona's new policies were bound to fail eventually.

http://www.aclu.org/immigrants-rights/sheriff-arpaio-sued-over-racial-profiling-latinos-maricopa-county

Seems there will be a class action lawsuit to prevent this kind of discrimination.

Good thing there was no discrimination.

Apparently it's considered racist to tell an illegal immigrant they aren't in the country legally and enforce immigration laws.

Obviously if they resort to using racist terms when talking to Latinos I disagree with that and they shouldn't be allowed to do so. But if somebody commits a crime I don't see why somebody should be offended if they ask for ID.

Apparently it's considered racist to tell an illegal immigrant they aren't in the country legally and enforce immigration laws.

Obviously if they resort to using racist terms when talking to Latinos I disagree with that and they shouldn't be allowed to do so. But if somebody commits a crime I don't see why somebody should be offended if they ask for ID.

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They pull over people who are not commiting crimes.

Of course the police are angels and racism is never existing in this world.

They pull over people who are not commiting crimes.

Of course the police are angels and racism is never existing in this world.

Banjo_Kongfooie

Proof?

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Apparently it's considered racist to tell an illegal immigrant they aren't in the country legally and enforce immigration laws.

Obviously if they resort to using racist terms when talking to Latinos I disagree with that and they shouldn't be allowed to do so. But if somebody commits a crime I don't see why somebody should be offended if they ask for ID.

DarkOfKnight

That's really the mindset of the liberals in this country. They don't understand that illegal = illegal.

Here they are **** there aren't enough jobs and are all for immigration.

Logic 101.

If your not Native American shut the **** up about illegal immigrants.

Banjo_Kongfooie

Why?

If your not Native American shut the **** up about illegal immigrants.Banjo_Kongfooie

If your not Native American shut the **** up about illegal immigrants.Banjo_Kongfooie

I'm pretty sure that argument is crap. How many societies today exist becasue of peaceful co-operation with their ancestors? None. Deal with it.

If your not Native American shut the **** up about illegal immigrants.Banjo_Kongfooie

Still waiting on that proof.

If your not Native American shut the **** up about illegal immigrants.Banjo_Kongfooie

The laws that were in place back then aren't the same as the laws in place today. You can't really compare the two. We have to make some kind of standard for who can come in the country, otherwise if anybody who had the means to enter was allowed in we would be flooded with people from third world countries looking for a better life.

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]If your not Native American shut the **** up about illegal immigrants.Wasdie

I'm pretty sure that argument is crap. How many societies today exist becasue of peaceful co-operation with their ancestors? None. Deal with it.

I think the Australians would be the closest but thats only because the indigenous people live in the desert where civilized people live along the coasts. But they really dont interface with each other all that much either.

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They pull over people who are not commiting crimes.

Of course the police are angels and racism is never existing in this world.

airshocker

Proof?

In the southern states, you're carded when crossing a state juncture, regardless of committing a crime. At least that's how it works in Texas and California, but if they're in Arizona I'm sure they still have checkpoints there too.

Fightingfan

What are you referring to when you say juncture?

[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]If your not Native American shut the **** up about illegal immigrants.airshocker

Still waiting on that proof.

Or were you referencing the former question of proof. There are multiple instances of racial profiling and five individuals came forward with the action law suit. That is the only proof I need.

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In the southern states, you're carded when crossing a state juncture, regardless of committing a crime. At least that's how it works in Texas and California, but if they're in Arizona I'm sure they still have checkpoints there too.

airshocker

What are you referring to when you say juncture?

For example.

I live semi-annually in Brownville Texas, and to leave that city you MUST provide ID.

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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]If your not Native American shut the **** up about illegal immigrants.Banjo_Kongfooie

Still waiting on that proof.

Or were you referencing the former question of proof. There are multiple instances of racial profiling and five individuals came forward with the action law suit. That is the only proof I need.

So? You're implying that because our ancestors took this land in a less than reasonable means (like all of Europe and Asia btw) we should somehow let illegal immigration become legal?

It has nothing to do with the topic at hand. You're trying to change the topic to something completely unrelated.

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In the southern states, you're carded when crossing a state juncture, regardless of committing a crime. At least that's how it works in Texas and California, but if they're in Arizona I'm sure they still have checkpoints there too.

Fightingfan

What are you referring to when you say juncture?

But we all know the tone they have and how they approach you is different based on how you look.

You mean proof that the Europeans raped and pillaged the Native American society. The United States was founded upon near- genocide of the Native population.

Or were you referencing the former question of proof. There are multiple instances of racial profiling and five individuals came forward with the action law suit. That is the only proof I need.

Banjo_Kongfooie

The latter, of course.

So you have no proof, just anecdotal evidence?

When you live in the Southern states close to the Mexican border, they have like mini-borders where you have to provide ID before crossing, I've never bothered 'protecting' my constitutional rights by not giving the officers my Id because it's not worth my time, but they do ask for ID/proof of citizenship for everyone in the vehicle.

For example.

I like semi-annually in Brownville Texas, and to leave that city you MUST provide ID.

Fightingfan

Ah. I don't see anything wrong with that. We routinely set up checkpoints to check for drivers licenses, proof of insurance, valid registration, etc.

The problem with the law isn't the targeting of illegals, it's the potential for abuse by harrassing citizens who's skin is the wrong pigmentation.

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What are you referring to when you say juncture?

Banjo_Kongfooie

But we all know the tone they have and how they approach you is different based on how you look.

The problem with the law isn't the targeting of illegals, it's the potential for abuse by harrassing citizens who's skin is the wrong pigmentation.

worlock77

Yes thank you, this as well. Even if you are against the "illegal immigration" than you can still be against these unreasonable laws.

Plus we have a wide open border. If most Americans support xenophobia and billingual language than why not build a wall like China did?

Guys, Banjo is troll.

You all do know that the Mexicans that so many dislike in the South are natives of this continent. They belong here more than Europeans do.Banjo_Kongfooie

I live in Arizona and think Sheriff Joe is doing a great job. He does crime sweeps that result in many people being arrested, not just for being illegal, but selling drugs, etc.

I will admit that he does racially profile, but I'm pretty sure they can't ask for your legal documents unless you're already breaking the law; speeding, jay walking, disturbing the peace, etc. And when you're breaking the law they ask everyone for their identification.

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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"] When you live in the Southern states close to the Mexican border, they have like mini-borders where you have to provide ID before crossing, I've never bothered 'protecting' my constitutional rights by not giving the officers my Id because it's not worth my time, but they do ask for ID/proof of citizenship for everyone in the vehicle.

Fightingfan

But we all know the tone they have and how they approach you is different based on how you look.

Yes exactly the laws sound reasonable to people against illegal immigration but they take out the fact the law is by nature leading to discrimination because most illegal come from Mexico. So anyone who looks remotely similar to the Mexican stereotype is treated differently. Many people do not know all the cultures which is why we have "Black" "White" "Asian" and "Hispanic/Latino" as descriptions of "race".

So they are punishing law abiding latinos because our government can not gaurd the border. Personally I do not blame people seaking a better life. It is like me leaving a stack of benjamins out in the open and being made someone grabed my money pile.

Guys, Banjo is troll.

coolbeans90

So because I put points that you do not want to argue up I am a troll??? Or because I disagree with the republicans?

The problem with the law isn't the targeting of illegals, it's the potential for abuse by harrassing citizens who's skin is the wrong pigmentation.

Yes thank you, this as well. Even if you are against the "illegal immigration" than you can still be against these unreasonable laws.

Plus we have a wide open border. If most Americans support xenophobia and billingual language than why not build a wall like China did?

We don't have a wide open border and xenophobia has nothing to do with this. BTW, China's wall if centuries old.DarkOfKnight

We have a fence... And it does not even cover the whole border.

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But we all know the tone they have and how they approach you is different based on how you look.

Banjo_Kongfooie

Yes exactly the laws sound reasonable to people against illegal immigration but they take out the fact the law is by nature leading to discrimination because most illegal come from Mexico. So anyone who looks remotely similar to the Mexican stereotype is treated differently. Many people do not know all the cultures which is why we have "Black" "White" "Asian" and "Hispanic/Latino" as descriptions of "race".

So they are punishing law abiding latinos because our government can not gaurd the border. Personally I do not blame people seaking a better life. It is like me leaving a stack of benjamins out in the open and being made someone grabed my money pile.

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Guys, Banjo is troll.

Banjo_Kongfooie

So because I put points that you do not want to argue up I am a troll??? Or because I disagree with the republicans?

Because you "points" are flawed by design with the intention of provoking people.

Racial profiling is awesome. We need more of it. 9/11 could have been avoided if we used racial profiling. ColdExistence

How do you figure?

Now lets send all those troops that arent in Iraq anymore and send them to secure the border and solve this problem.

Why do white people hate minorities so much?VanHelsingBoA64

They don't hate minorities, while some racists do, whites hate people who break the law, just like all other ethnic groups that are American citizens.

Why do white people hate minorities so much?VanHelsingBoA64

They took er jerbs. :P

No idea to be honest. My role models are Ghandi, MLK, and Lincoln so I do not but each to his own.

Imo I would rather we have a dictatorship under a kind dictator than what we have now. Congress is a joke.

How stupid, 99% of illegals are gonna be Latino.

This is whining and political correctness to the max.

Anyone else thinks its kinda weird that their was alot of trouble a few months ago with Steven Seagal,who allegedly killed a puppy?

Why do white people hate minorities so much?VanHelsingBoA64

How stupid, 99% of illegals are gonna be Latino.

This is whining and political correctness to the max.

CaveJohnson1

[QUOTE="VanHelsingBoA64"]Why do white people hate minorities so much?Bucked20