Should businesses have the right to drug test people for low-level positions?

If they wish, it doesnt violate any rights like one of your poll options, they can do as they wish, if the person applying doesnt want to drug test then he must find abother job.

NO

businesses are evil and only want to exploit ppl!

They should be tested for all jobs, if they fail the police should be contacted and they should be jailed.

This idea that society gets to do whatever it wants while it's at work is why America has fallen in the workplace. If you are paid to do a job you do that job to the very best of your ability every second of ever hour.

They should be tested for all jobs, if they fail the police should be contacted and they should be jailed.

Jaysonguy

Wow, that is one of the worst ideas I've ever heard. I can't even imagine how fast our jails would fill up...

They should be tested for all jobs, if they fail the police should be contacted and they should be jailed.

This idea that society gets to do whatever it wants while it's at work is why America has fallen in the workplace. If you are paid to do a job you do that job to the very best of your ability every second of ever hour.

Jaysonguy

Yeah, but not to the exclusion of your entire life. I can't have a beer after work because I'm destroying brain cells? They don't belong to my employer, however useful they are to him.

Hope you're joking with the police thing.

NO

businesses are evil and only want to exploit ppl!

Super_Socialist

Must you troll on every board out there.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

They should be tested for all jobs, if they fail the police should be contacted and they should be jailed.

This idea that society gets to do whatever it wants while it's at work is why America has fallen in the workplace. If you are paid to do a job you do that job to the very best of your ability every second of ever hour.

jimmyjammer69

Yeah, but not to the exclusion of your entire life. I can't have a beer after work because I'm destroying brain cells? They don't belong to my employer, however useful they are to him.

Hope you're joking with the police thing.

Employers do not care if you injest alochol (inless you are underage) as long as you don't come to work wasted.

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

They should be tested for all jobs, if they fail the police should be contacted and they should be jailed.

This idea that society gets to do whatever it wants while it's at work is why America has fallen in the workplace. If you are paid to do a job you do that job to the very best of your ability every second of ever hour.

sSubZerOo

Yeah, but not to the exclusion of your entire life. I can't have a beer after work because I'm destroying brain cells? They don't belong to my employer, however useful they are to him.

Hope you're joking with the police thing.

Employers do not care if you injest alochol (inless you are underage) as long as you don't come to work wasted.

Ok, so why should they care if you have taken drugs, as long as it doesn't affect your performance? Bit of a double standard there. Alcohol is a drug.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

They should be tested for all jobs, if they fail the police should be contacted and they should be jailed.

This idea that society gets to do whatever it wants while it's at work is why America has fallen in the workplace. If you are paid to do a job you do that job to the very best of your ability every second of ever hour.

jimmyjammer69

Yeah, but not to the exclusion of your entire life. I can't have a beer after work because I'm destroying brain cells? They don't belong to my employer, however useful they are to him.

Hope you're joking with the police thing.

Employers do not care if you injest alochol (inless you are underage) as long as you don't come to work wasted.

Ok, so why should they care if you have taken drugs, as long as it doesn't affect your performance? Bit of a double standard there. Alcohol is a drug.

Would you hire a cocaine addict for a job that deals with handling money?

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

They should be tested for all jobs, if they fail the police should be contacted and they should be jailed.

This idea that society gets to do whatever it wants while it's at work is why America has fallen in the workplace. If you are paid to do a job you do that job to the very best of your ability every second of ever hour.

sSubZerOo

Yeah, but not to the exclusion of your entire life. I can't have a beer after work because I'm destroying brain cells? They don't belong to my employer, however useful they are to him.

Hope you're joking with the police thing.

Employers do not care if you injest alochol (inless you are underage) as long as you don't come to work wasted.

Ok, so why should they care if you have taken drugs, as long as it doesn't affect your performance? Bit of a double standard there. Alcohol is a drug.

Would you hire a cocaine addict for a job that deals with handling money?

Hey, I've got no problem with the drug testing thing. Just think they should have alcohol testing too :)

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

They should be tested for all jobs, if they fail the police should be contacted and they should be jailed.

This idea that society gets to do whatever it wants while it's at work is why America has fallen in the workplace. If you are paid to do a job you do that job to the very best of your ability every second of ever hour.

jimmyjammer69

Yeah, but not to the exclusion of your entire life. I can't have a beer after work because I'm destroying brain cells? They don't belong to my employer, however useful they are to him.

Hope you're joking with the police thing.

Employers do not care if you injest alochol (inless you are underage) as long as you don't come to work wasted.

Ok, so why should they care if you have taken drugs, as long as it doesn't affect your performance? Bit of a double standard there. Alcohol is a drug.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

They should be tested for all jobs, if they fail the police should be contacted and they should be jailed.

This idea that society gets to do whatever it wants while it's at work is why America has fallen in the workplace. If you are paid to do a job you do that job to the very best of your ability every second of ever hour.

jimmyjammer69

Yeah, but not to the exclusion of your entire life. I can't have a beer after work because I'm destroying brain cells? They don't belong to my employer, however useful they are to him.

Hope you're joking with the police thing.

Employers do not care if you injest alochol (inless you are underage) as long as you don't come to work wasted.

Ok, so why should they care if you have taken drugs, as long as it doesn't affect your performance? Bit of a double standard there. Alcohol is a drug.

Would you hire a cocaine addict for a job that deals with handling money?

Hey, I've got no problem with the drug testing thing. Just think they should have alcohol testing too :)

Why its a legal drug.. If anything you would be opening your self up for lawsuit for some kind of descrimination of apersons legal rights.

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

They should be tested for all jobs, if they fail the police should be contacted and they should be jailed.

This idea that society gets to do whatever it wants while it's at work is why America has fallen in the workplace. If you are paid to do a job you do that job to the very best of your ability every second of ever hour.

Jaysonguy

Yeah, but not to the exclusion of your entire life. I can't have a beer after work because I'm destroying brain cells? They don't belong to my employer, however useful they are to him.

Hope you're joking with the police thing.

Employers do not care if you injest alochol (inless you are underage) as long as you don't come to work wasted.

Ok, so why should they care if you have taken drugs, as long as it doesn't affect your performance? Bit of a double standard there. Alcohol is a drug.

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

They should be tested for all jobs, if they fail the police should be contacted and they should be jailed.

This idea that society gets to do whatever it wants while it's at work is why America has fallen in the workplace. If you are paid to do a job you do that job to the very best of your ability every second of ever hour.

sSubZerOo

Yeah, but not to the exclusion of your entire life. I can't have a beer after work because I'm destroying brain cells? They don't belong to my employer, however useful they are to him.

Hope you're joking with the police thing.

Employers do not care if you injest alochol (inless you are underage) as long as you don't come to work wasted.

Ok, so why should they care if you have taken drugs, as long as it doesn't affect your performance? Bit of a double standard there. Alcohol is a drug.

Would you hire a cocaine addict for a job that deals with handling money?

Hey, I've got no problem with the drug testing thing. Just think they should have alcohol testing too :)

Why its a legal drug.. If anything you would be opening your self up for lawsuit for some kind of descrimination of apersons legal rights.

Thought you were arguing from the point of view of performance at work, not from legality.

Absolutely not. What I do outside of work is none of my employer's business. If I come to work stoned, if I steal, or if I am incapable of doing the job, fire me. But if it doesn't have any effect on how I do the job, it doesn't matter. Drug tests are an invasion of privacy. NearTheEnd

But what if the employer dosent want someone who does those things to work for them period?

[QUOTE="NearTheEnd"]Absolutely not. What I do outside of work is none of my employer's business. If I come to work stoned, if I steal, or if I am incapable of doing the job, fire me. But if it doesn't have any effect on how I do the job, it doesn't matter. Drug tests are an invasion of privacy. Super_Socialist

But what if the employer dosent want someone who does those things to work for them period?

Its not just that.. But some of these drugs like cocaine, meth, Heroine.. Are extremely addictive drugs.. Drugs that the employee is ran by meaning they may skip out into the bathroom to shoot up.. Furthermore some of these drug addictions are not only extreme but costly, would you trust them handling money or to not steal from them? Not to mention there is a extreme negative pub that could come from this as well if they allowed this..

[QUOTE="NearTheEnd"]Absolutely not. What I do outside of work is none of my employer's business. If I come to work stoned, if I steal, or if I am incapable of doing the job, fire me. But if it doesn't have any effect on how I do the job, it doesn't matter. Drug tests are an invasion of privacy. Super_Socialist

But what if the employer dosent want someone who does those things to work for them period?

What if they don't want people who have kinky sex working for them?

What if they don't want people who smoke cigarettes working for them?

What if they don't want gay people working for them?

It shouldn't matter if it doesn't effect the quality of work the employee does.

[QUOTE="Super_Socialist"]

[QUOTE="NearTheEnd"]Absolutely not. What I do outside of work is none of my employer's business. If I come to work stoned, if I steal, or if I am incapable of doing the job, fire me. But if it doesn't have any effect on how I do the job, it doesn't matter. Drug tests are an invasion of privacy. sSubZerOo

But what if the employer dosent want someone who does those things to work for them period?

Its not just that.. But some of these drugs like cocaine, meth, Heroine.. Are extremely addictive drugs.. Drugs that the employee is ran by meaning they may skip out into the bathroom to shoot up.. Furthermore some of these drug addictions are not only extreme but costly, would you trust them handling money or to not steal from them? Not to mention there is a extreme negative pub that could come from this as well if they allowed this..

in my opinion if people want to do drugs thats totally fine, however a person (or business) chooses to not have any association with someone who does these things thats up to them. Its not like you have to work there, theres plenty of jobs already and to be made.

[QUOTE="Super_Socialist"]

[QUOTE="NearTheEnd"]Absolutely not. What I do outside of work is none of my employer's business. If I come to work stoned, if I steal, or if I am incapable of doing the job, fire me. But if it doesn't have any effect on how I do the job, it doesn't matter. Drug tests are an invasion of privacy. NearTheEnd

But what if the employer dosent want someone who does those things to work for them period?

What if they don't want people who have kinky sex working for them?

What if they don't want people who smoke cigarettes working for them?

What if they don't want gay people working for them?

It shouldn't matter if it doesn't effect the quality of work the employee does.

then thats up to the employer.

You come to agreements as you sign the paperwork.

Its the same thing as if someone dosent want people who smoke in their home.

For the record, if the employer dosent seem to care then whatever. But dont expect the world to bend over backwards for you.

[QUOTE="Super_Socialist"]

[QUOTE="NearTheEnd"]Absolutely not. What I do outside of work is none of my employer's business. If I come to work stoned, if I steal, or if I am incapable of doing the job, fire me. But if it doesn't have any effect on how I do the job, it doesn't matter. Drug tests are an invasion of privacy. sSubZerOo

But what if the employer dosent want someone who does those things to work for them period?

Its not just that.. But some of these drugs like cocaine, meth, Heroine.. Are extremely addictive drugs.. Drugs that the employee is ran by meaning they may skip out into the bathroom to shoot up.. Furthermore some of these drug addictions are not only extreme but costly, would you trust them handling money or to not steal from them? Not to mention there is a extreme negative pub that could come from this as well if they allowed this..

[QUOTE="NearTheEnd"][QUOTE="Super_Socialist"]

[QUOTE="NearTheEnd"]Absolutely not. What I do outside of work is none of my employer's business. If I come to work stoned, if I steal, or if I am incapable of doing the job, fire me. But if it doesn't have any effect on how I do the job, it doesn't matter. Drug tests are an invasion of privacy. Super_Socialist

But what if the employer dosent want someone who does those things to work for them period?

What if they don't want people who have kinky sex working for them?

What if they don't want people who smoke cigarettes working for them?

What if they don't want gay people working for them?

It shouldn't matter if it doesn't effect the quality of work the employee does.

then thats up to the employer.

You come to agreements as you sign the paperwork.

Its the same thing as if someone dosent want people who smoke in their home.

It is NOT up to the employer. For example, asking people what political party people support during an interview is illegal.

Worst topic ever. Yes they should be able to drug test anyone, I mean they are paying you to come to work and do the best you can and while you are under the influence that is impossible. The only reason I can think of you making this thread is because your a pothead and you failed a drug test.Lakrum

[QUOTE="Super_Socialist"][QUOTE="NearTheEnd"][QUOTE="Super_Socialist"]

[QUOTE="NearTheEnd"]Absolutely not. What I do outside of work is none of my employer's business. If I come to work stoned, if I steal, or if I am incapable of doing the job, fire me. But if it doesn't have any effect on how I do the job, it doesn't matter. Drug tests are an invasion of privacy. NearTheEnd

But what if the employer dosent want someone who does those things to work for them period?

What if they don't want people who have kinky sex working for them?

What if they don't want people who smoke cigarettes working for them?

What if they don't want gay people working for them?

It shouldn't matter if it doesn't effect the quality of work the employee does.

then thats up to the employer.

You come to agreements as you sign the paperwork.

Its the same thing as if someone dosent want people who smoke in their home.

It is NOT up to the employer. For example, asking people what political party people support during an interview is illegal.

I wasnt talking about someone who was smoking at the time.

I dont care if its illegal, it shouldnt be.

If I wanted green libertarian nationalist socialists (I think thats an actual party too, maybe a joke one im not sure) only, then I should be able to have that. The business is my property and I have the right to allow who I want to work for me.

Just like im allowed to deny anyone into my house for any silly reason under the sun. Same thing.

Sadly drug testing only catches potheads. All "hard" drugs are out of your system in a day or two, and are really hard to catch. Pot stays in the system for roughly 20 days, and is the most common drug caught on employeer screenings.

Drug testing just doesn't work, and you also run the risk of losing good employees who might smoke a little pot on the side. The company I work for doesn't do any drug testing unless suspicion is raised, and then they will only do a drug test if substance abuse help is refused. Honestly if my work did drug tests I'd guess they'd loose about 1/2 their employees.

[QUOTE="NearTheEnd"][QUOTE="Super_Socialist"][QUOTE="NearTheEnd"][QUOTE="Super_Socialist"]

[QUOTE="NearTheEnd"]Absolutely not. What I do outside of work is none of my employer's business. If I come to work stoned, if I steal, or if I am incapable of doing the job, fire me. But if it doesn't have any effect on how I do the job, it doesn't matter. Drug tests are an invasion of privacy. Super_Socialist

But what if the employer dosent want someone who does those things to work for them period?

What if they don't want people who have kinky sex working for them?

What if they don't want people who smoke cigarettes working for them?

What if they don't want gay people working for them?

It shouldn't matter if it doesn't effect the quality of work the employee does.

then thats up to the employer.

You come to agreements as you sign the paperwork.

Its the same thing as if someone dosent want people who smoke in their home.

It is NOT up to the employer. For example, asking people what political party people support during an interview is illegal.

I wasnt talking about someone who was smoking at the time.

I dont care if its illegal, it shouldnt be.

If I wanted green libertarian nationalist socialists (I think thats an actual party too, maybe a joke one im not sure) only, then I should be able to have that. The business is my property and I have the right to allow who I want to work for me.

Just like im allowed to deny anyone into my house for any silly reason under the sun. Same thing.

The Libertarian National Socialist Green Party is indeed a real party

[QUOTE="Super_Socialist"][QUOTE="NearTheEnd"][QUOTE="Super_Socialist"][QUOTE="NearTheEnd"][QUOTE="Super_Socialist"]

[QUOTE="NearTheEnd"]Absolutely not. What I do outside of work is none of my employer's business. If I come to work stoned, if I steal, or if I am incapable of doing the job, fire me. But if it doesn't have any effect on how I do the job, it doesn't matter. Drug tests are an invasion of privacy. Rhazakna

But what if the employer dosent want someone who does those things to work for them period?

What if they don't want people who have kinky sex working for them?

What if they don't want people who smoke cigarettes working for them?

What if they don't want gay people working for them?

It shouldn't matter if it doesn't effect the quality of work the employee does.

then thats up to the employer.

You come to agreements as you sign the paperwork.

Its the same thing as if someone dosent want people who smoke in their home.

It is NOT up to the employer. For example, asking people what political party people support during an interview is illegal.

I wasnt talking about someone who was smoking at the time.

I dont care if its illegal, it shouldnt be.

If I wanted green libertarian nationalist socialists (I think thats an actual party too, maybe a joke one im not sure) only, then I should be able to have that. The business is my property and I have the right to allow who I want to work for me.

Just like im allowed to deny anyone into my house for any silly reason under the sun. Same thing.

The Libertarian National Socialist Green Party is indeed a real party

what exactly do they stand for?

No one has a right to stop them, just like no one has a right to keep pot illegal.

[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]

The Libertarian National Socialist Green Party is indeed a real party

Super_Socialist

what exactly do they stand for?

A "tolerant" form of Nazism that promotes the idea that all races have a grand ancestry that should be preserved, and not mixed with other races. They're also environmentalists.

[QUOTE="Super_Socialist"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"]

The Libertarian National Socialist Green Party is indeed a real party

Rhazakna

what exactly do they stand for?

A "tolerant" form of Nazism that promotes the idea that all races have a grand ancestry that should be preserved, and not mixed with other races. They're also environmentalists.

They sound bat**** crazy.

Yes! they have every right to do so. Who would want a drug abuser doing work. Death happens and murders.Gaming-Planet

No one has a right to stop them, just like no one has a right to keep pot illegal.

-TheSecondSign-

its not a matter of stopping them; the only way to could stop someone is through force, which is a violation of a humans inherit rights. This a matter of having the type of people you want on your property.