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Kid's aren't anymore out of control than 15 years ago. Plus parents can smack their children, it is up to them. Child abuse on the other hand (for example belting them repeatedly) is completely unnecessary,
Samwel_X
I beg to differ, I was waiting for a bus today and some little kid not a day older than 13 tried to pick a fight with a fully grown man. I'm not saying that this is an everyday occurence but I've noticed it happen more and more.
Kids certainly need harsher disciplining, this whole Super Nanny naughty-corner nonsense really annoys me. Children are human beings, made of flesh and bone, not glass that can shatter at the first sign of criticism.
EDIT: Hitting kids =/= beating kids
I beg to differ, I was waiting for a bus today and some little kid not a day older than 13 tried to pick a fight with a fully grown man. I'm not saying that this is an everyday occurence but I've noticed it happen more and more.
AirGuitarist87
can't be any worse then the people that injected LSD into random things on a regular basis in the 70's.
[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"]I beg to differ, I was waiting for a bus today and some little kid not a day older than 13 tried to pick a fight with a fully grown man. I'm not saying that this is an everyday occurence but I've noticed it happen more and more.
Hewkii
can't be any worse then the people that injected LSD into random things on a regular basis in the 70's.
Screwing yourself up is one thing, people are free to do that. It's when you're trying to hurt other people when you cross the line.
Violence doesn't solve anything and only makes things worse. Parents these days just don't know how to punish their children without resorting to violence and that is why so many children don't have respect for authority.
The proper way to punish a child for doing something wrong is to first tell them why they were wrong and to either remove a privilege for a certain amount of time or put them into "time-out" to give them time to think about why they were wrong.
Making them "scared" of authority for fear of being physically brutalized is why a lot of people have psychological issues later in life.
foxhound_fox
I 100% agree.
When you get the child to realize they've done something wrong, that's a step in the right direction.
It's also a step closer to hugging and making up.
Absolutely not, it just shows a lack of control over your kid(s).
(Putting fear into someone in hopes it will prevent them from doing something is just, so...typical of religions.:P)
[QUOTE="Happy_Kat777"]Just have a guess, a very long considered guess. HINT: Same people who brought us rickrolling.Can I ask the origin of Pedobear while we're at it XD
Child abuse is WRONG
deepdreamer256
I don't know about his origin as the internet thing he is, but I know that originally he was a Japanese character whose name actually translates to "Mr Bear" or something imaginative like that.
On-topic, I don't have a problem with like spankings or something, so long as the child isn't really hurt (obviously the TC didn't mean beat them to a bloody pulp). Let's face it, threatening to take away TV priveleges just doesn't work all the time.
EDIT: Also, the parent should also be sure to show affection after punishment so they don't become associated with pain, just so they know what they did was wrong. I also believe that physical punishment should only be used for more serious misbehaviours, like throwing big fits and such and after already warning the kid.
Violence doesn't solve anything and only makes things worse. Parents these days just don't know how to punish their children without resorting to violence and that is why so many children don't have respect for authority.
The proper way to punish a child for doing something wrong is to first tell them why they were wrong and to either remove a privilege for a certain amount of time or put them into "time-out" to give them time to think about why they were wrong.
Making them "scared" of authority for fear of being physically brutalized is why a lot of people have psychological issues later in life.
foxhound_fox
I believe yes. If the child does something wrong I see nothing wrong if you spank them and tell them what they did is wrong. You're not going to go up to them, punch them in the face and tell them to go to their room (assuming you're not a monster :|). My parents, in particular my mum, never had a problem hitting me on the bum or arm any time I did something I shouldn't have (which wasnt that often since I was quite shifty). However they will soon outgrow it. I remember 7 years ago when my brother was 13 he said something during dinner and my dad slapped his hand as if to make him stop, and my brother just sat there and said "that doesnt work anymore". So it is a good way to divert them from doing the wrong thing and you hope it will have a long lasting effect on them during their teenage years. Also, it helps not to use a weapon like a belt or spoon. I got hit with the spoon once, so I stole it and buried it. Just a word of warning if you dont want stuff to go missing. ;)
I was a kid at one point, and i know what i was like. Nothing short of a spank in the ass would shut me up and calm me down so that my parents could lay down the law. It helped enforce an early sense of what was right and what was wrong when i was too young to truly realize why what i was doing was irresponsible and immature.
Sometimes Force is a parents only means of enforcement and discipline, and sometimes its the only thing to keep kids in line and truly help give them a sense what they are doing is wrong. "Go to your room!" "No TV" "Your grounded" that stuff never worked by itself with me. I'll plug the TV back in, refuse to go to my room or continue to leave it, and always ignore the "your grounded". But with spankings, it's "Follow the rules, or feel the pain", and that helped keep me in line. And eventually i did come to respect authority as i do today. I'm joining the US Air Force, have not broken a single law or taken any drugs and have not dranken any alcohol. What my parents did worked, so if and when i have kids, i will not hesitate the impart physical punishment if needed.
By the looks of the polls, there are going to be a lot of messed up children in the future._Marisa_
Not all of them grow up to be psychotic abusers, hitting kids is normal for some familes. Its just discipline, unless you enjoy hitting kids. I used to be smacked around everytimes I did something bad when I was younger and learned to accept it.
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Violence doesn't solve anything and only makes things worse. Parents these days just don't know how to punish their children without resorting to violence and that is why so many children don't have respect for authority.
The proper way to punish a child for doing something wrong is to first tell them why they were wrong and to either remove a privilege for a certain amount of time or put them into "time-out" to give them time to think about why they were wrong.
Making them "scared" of authority for fear of being physically brutalized is why a lot of people have psychological issues later in life.
_Marisa_
There's nothing wrong with a spanking. Beating and hitting are 2 different things. I got my fair share of the belt when I was a kid, and I think I turned out just fine.cell_dwellerDid you learn not to do the same thing a 2nd time?
Pain is the best teacher.
Most of the 'life lessons' that I remember involve pain. When I get hurt, I take immediate action to ensure that I won't get hurt again in the future by repeating that action. Through parental discipline bad things in my life were associated with pain, and therefore I stopped doing that bad thing.
Pain is the best teacher.
Most of the 'life lessons' that I remember involve pain. When I get hurt, I take immediate action to ensure that I won't get hurt again in the future by repeating that action. Through parental discipline bad things in my life were associated with pain, and therefore I stopped doing that bad thing.
Nagru
Exactly, I always hear kids saying "Oh whatever, I'll just get grounded If I do this" while when I got a spanking, I made sure not to make that same mistake again.
Spanking yes when kids act up like (throwing a big tanturm in public,screaming their heads off for no reason and not quieting down when tell them,running in middle street whenthey know it wrong and ,stealing,)
going for blown hitting for no reason no
sometime time doesn't work
telling kids go to their room halfway work because kids will have their toys to play with and keep busy
[QUOTE="_Marisa_"]By the looks of the polls, there are going to be a lot of messed up children in the future.tzar3
Not all of them grow up to be psychotic abusers, hitting kids is normal for some familes. Its just discipline, unless you enjoy hitting kids. I used to be smacked around everytimes I did something bad when I was younger and learned to accept it.
[QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Violence doesn't solve anything and only makes things worse. Parents these days just don't know how to punish their children without resorting to violence and that is why so many children don't have respect for authority.
The proper way to punish a child for doing something wrong is to first tell them why they were wrong and to either remove a privilege for a certain amount of time or put them into "time-out" to give them time to think about why they were wrong.
Making them "scared" of authority for fear of being physically brutalized is why a lot of people have psychological issues later in life.
xaos
[QUOTE="_Marisa_"]By the looks of the polls, there are going to be a lot of messed up children in the future.tzar3
Not all of them grow up to be psychotic abusers, hitting kids is normal for some familes. Its just discipline, unless you enjoy hitting kids. I used to be smacked around everytimes I did something bad when I was younger and learned to accept it.
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