Should rich people give their money to poor people ?

Rich people do give their money to poor people. If the government didn't take so much then rich people would be able to give more to poor people.DaBrainz

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]Rich people do give their money to poor people. If the government didn't take so much then rich people would be able to give more to poor people.StRaItJaCkEt36

[QUOTE="StRaItJaCkEt36"][QUOTE="DaBrainz"]Rich people do give their money to poor people. If the government didn't take so much then rich people would be able to give more to poor people.DaBrainz

he doesnt need to, your logic is ridiculas.

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"][QUOTE="StRaItJaCkEt36"] You have my sympathies. I can't imagine the hardships you endure because of your delusions. tenaka2

he doesnt need to, your logic is ridiculas.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Marx was one of the most important/influence economists of the past 200 years. He was one of the first, if not the first, to really understand the impact of capitalism and the mechanics behind how it worked. Modern economics would not be where it is today without Marx's contribution to the field.mattisgod01

I've always felt that Communism, Especially under Stalin took the work of Marx to the extreme and corrupted it. Which is a shame as many people are quick to associate the two and come to the conclusion that they are one and the same.

No because it causes global warming.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"] Rich people give large amounts of money to charity, most of which help the needy. Government gives money to corporations that cant stay afloat on their own because politicians are owned by wallstreet. Its obvious when one results to name calling because they are smart enough to come up with a rebuttal. DaBrainz

he doesnt need to, your logic is ridiculas.

Some of it, yes. And I know someone who would agree with me:

people shouldnt have to give anything to poor people.. get off your ass and work for money

people shouldnt have to give anything to poor people.. get off your ass and work for money

Flubbbs

BTW, who the hell is digging in page 9000 for these threads?

No, and I find it extremely sad that 44% of OT thinks they should.

Should they pay their fair share of taxes? Sure. Should they not get loopholes for just being rich? Of course. Should they give their money directly to the poor? Only if they want. Nobody should make them.

No, and I find it extremely sad that 44% of OT thinks they should.

Should they pay their fair share of taxes? Sure. Should they not get loopholes for just being rich? Of course. Should they give their money directly to the poor? Only if they want. Nobody should make them.

Wasdie

Yes but not under taxation.

Rich folks should be charitable.

Poor folks should be humble and grateful.

Wealth redistribution based on "equality" is wrong.

Everybody has the opportunity to work hard and be wealthy.

And everybody can have problems and depend on handouts.

So don't hate the rich.

And don't hate the poor.

Because either way it could be you.

You wouldn't want someone to rip your wealth from you if you worked hard for it.

And if you were poor, you'd want other people to help you.

So try to be understanding to each other.

Give and receive, but not under coercion.

Out of kindness and brotherhood, not our of coercion.

lol

five years old

no,its not the rich person's fault that the poor man is poor.teh_destroyer

Ah... it's great to be young and naive. You'll learn.

No, they should give it to just me.

Why?

Because I'm amazing and deserve to be compensated for just being me.

[QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

[QUOTE="Conanfan1"] How about, minimum wage workers should find better jobs. Conanfan1

... You havn't experienced the real world yet, have you?

You'll always need nurses, and teachers, and cops, and firemen, and plumbers, and waiters, etc. When people say if you work hard you can do it too, that's a lie. Not everyone can do it, not everyone can be a CEO, etc., you NEED the remaining people. So why shouldn't they get a bit more money too? Why should CEOs make millions in bonuses while freezing their employees salaries because of the financial crisis or *insert excuse of the year*? I'm not saying there shouldn't be rich people, not by a long shot, but why do they have to make 1000000 more money than the average worker?

If I was rich I would give to help those who truly need it. It just doesn't seem fair that I get to sleep in a mansion and eat the finest foods while they sleep on the streets and eat out of bins

Yes. There is no reason to hoard money and nobody deserves to be poor.

No. Rich people should give their money to me. I'd like to be able to stay home and play mass effect all day. Fargin work.

Ludicrous.

There should be less inequality between rich and poor, yes, that doesn't mean rich people should simply hand out their money to poor people.

Plenty of ways in this world to make a living for yourself.

Isn't ironic how the sociopathic CEOs laying people off while giving themselves raises while hoarding millions they sucked out of the middle and lower class that won't get used, never get called leaches? What's wrong with giving them the same tax rates as everyone else?RushKing

Yes. There is no reason to hoard money and nobody deserves to be poor.

toast_burner

[QUOTE="Conanfan1"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

... You havn't experienced the real world yet, have you?

nunovlopes

You'll always need nurses, and teachers, and cops, and firemen, and plumbers, and waiters, etc. When people say if you work hard you can do it too, that's a lie. Not everyone can do it, not everyone can be a CEO, etc., you NEED the remaining people. So why shouldn't they get a bit more money too? Why should CEOs make millions in bonuses while freezing their employees salaries because of the financial crisis or *insert excuse of the year*? I'm not saying there shouldn't be rich people, not by a long shot, but why do they have to make 1000000 more money than the average worker?

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Yes. There is no reason to hoard money and nobody deserves to be poor.

xscrapzx

Ludicrous.

There should be less inequality between rich and poor, yes, that doesn't mean rich people should simply hand out their money to poor people.

Plenty of ways in this world to make a living for yourself.

N30F3N1X

Should rich people pay more taxes?

yes, yes they should.



Should rich people randomly go around town handing out $100 bills to people?

no

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Yes. There is no reason to hoard money and nobody deserves to be poor.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"] So you mean to say that it is not good to save money? :?xscrapzx

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

Ludicrous.

There should be less inequality between rich and poor, yes, that doesn't mean rich people should simply hand out their money to poor people.

Plenty of ways in this world to make a living for yourself.

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]Why would anyone ever need a million quid in the bank on top of all the stuff they already own?

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]Why would anyone ever need a million quid in the bank on top of all the stuff they already own?

toast_burner

Yes. There is no reason to hoard money and nobody deserves to be poor.

toast_burner

What is the smallest pay in the US?

a gift is a voluntary transfer from one party to another. it is a charitable one sided exchange, it is still an exchange because both parties must agree. i have no stance on what people wish to do with their work, i do have a problem with people thinking that redistribution by a third party who takes the majority of the extorted funds and dolls out a small sliver to justify the theft, i do indeed have a problem with those who think this is giving or that this is what the face of charity is.

a gift is a voluntary transfer from one party to another. it is a charitable one sided exchange, it is still an exchange because both parties must agree. i have no stance on what people wish to do with their work, i do have a problem with people thinking that redistribution by a third party who takes the majority of the extorted funds and dolls out a small sliver to justify the theft, i do indeed have a problem with those who think this is giving or that this is what the face of charity is.

surrealnumber5

Better question would be: should you give your money to people that are less fortunate than yourself. It's easy to ask others to sacrifice.

a gift is a voluntary transfer from one party to another. it is a charitable one sided exchange, it is still an exchange because both parties must agree. i have no stance on what people wish to do with their work, i do have a problem with people thinking that redistribution by a third party who takes the majority of the extorted funds and dolls out a small sliver to justify the theft, i do indeed have a problem with those who think this is giving or that this is what the face of charity is.

surrealnumber5

The minute somebody suggests that taxes shouldn't be raised, all too often they are accused of not wanting to help those in need. The problem is, how much of that additional tax revenue actually goes to help anyone?

I find the same problems when it comes to donating to charities. I'm something of an animal/nature lover. Unfortunately, I've come across way too many stories about where donations go (regarding some of the larger, better known charities). So, I end up giving money and supplies(and time via volunteering when I can) directly to some of the local animal shelters, where I can be certain it is being put to good use.

Even at my church, I do give a fair amount of money via donations, but I am always much more willing to donate my time.

All I know is, of all the "charities" I can think of, there is none as poorly run as the US Government. (Then again, I think that the government takes on that role far too often to begin with).

[QUOTE="RushKing"]Isn't ironic how the sociopathic CEOs laying people off while giving themselves raises while hoarding millions they sucked out of the middle and lower class that won't get used, never get called leaches? What's wrong with giving them the same tax rates as everyone else?xscrapzx

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="RushKing"]Isn't ironic how the sociopathic CEOs laying people off while giving themselves raises while hoarding millions they sucked out of the middle and lower class that won't get used, never get called leaches? What's wrong with giving them the same tax rates as everyone else?RushKing

Presently, my job is spent partially on the computer, partially walking jobsites, and partially in negotiation meetings. Someone peering into my office might think "Wow, he doesn't exert a lot of effort, he doesn't work hard." What the person doesn't see, is that I started out as a file clerk, lugging heavy boxes and construciton materials around, working overnight shifts to gain experience, attending college classes on nights and weekends while working full time, volunteering to do any and all available tasks to gain experience and the confidence/trust of my bosses.

People see a guy in a suit and assume they have it so easy, yet they fail to think about what it takes to get there.

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="RushKing"]Isn't ironic how the sociopathic CEOs laying people off while giving themselves raises while hoarding millions they sucked out of the middle and lower class that won't get used, never get called leaches? What's wrong with giving them the same tax rates as everyone else?RushKing

CEOs do not work 10x as hard as other people.RushKing

[QUOTE="RushKing"]CEOs do not work 10x as hard as other people.Nibroc420

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

[QUOTE="Conanfan1"] I've seen how lazy people that don't want to work hard end up settling for minimum wage jobs. They wanted to be stupid and wasted their high school opportunities, so now they're stuck with low paying jobs. Failing at high school isn't the end of the world, though. My father never went to high school because he came here from Mexico. He started out at a minimum wage position, but now he makes about $25/hr because he decided to get into construction, a job that is widely available but not done by many because it's "hard", and he worked hard in order to gain the attention of his superiors and get promoted. He's not rich, but he makes more than enough for us to get by. I'm doing great in high school so that I don't ever have to work for a small amount of money. If the people at McDonald's or Wal-Mart had done that themselves, then they wouldn't have to work there. xscrapzx

You'll always need nurses, and teachers, and cops, and firemen, and plumbers, and waiters, etc. When people say if you work hard you can do it too, that's a lie. Not everyone can do it, not everyone can be a CEO, etc., you NEED the remaining people. So why shouldn't they get a bit more money too? Why should CEOs make millions in bonuses while freezing their employees salaries because of the financial crisis or *insert excuse of the year*? I'm not saying there shouldn't be rich people, not by a long shot, but why do they have to make 1000000 more money than the average worker?

Son, I know very well how the corporate world works, I'm in it for over a decade. Of course the CEO runs the company and of course his decisions can make or break a company, and that's why they should make big money, but you know what? You need everyone to keep a company running smoothly. You need everyone to work very hard to keep a company going. The CEO isn't going to magically do that. And the CEO sitting on a pile of money while everyone makes many many many many times less money is not right. And regarding holding the risk and liability, it depends. Look at those CEOs from major financial institutions that collapsed in 2008, that didn't prevented them from leaving with huge bonuses even after all the mess.