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#1 diegosanchezMMA
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i ask this question out of curiosity

people who fail when the attempt suicide are often prosecuted and have criminal charges against them

i guess this is more a moral question, should a person be able to take his/her own life?

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#2 gamedude2020
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no :|

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#3 needled24-7
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i don't see how charging them with a crime does anyone any good (if they fail with the attempt). if anything, it'll make them want to kill themselves even more.

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#4 Snakewiseman
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i never understood how someone could fail at killing themself

anyways I think the concept of suicide is stupid If i really was going to do it i would try my hand at a professional assasin first

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#5 JML897
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i don't see how charging them with a crime does anyone any good (if they fail with the attempt). if anything, it'll make them want to kill themselves even more.

needled24-7

Pretty much what I was going to say.

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#6 -Fromage-
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They didnt attempt to hurt anyone else. So there should be no need to pile criminal charges onto their list of problems.
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#7 needled24-7
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i never understood how someone could fail at killing themself

anyways I think the concept of suicide is stupid If i really was going to do it i would try my hand at a professional assasin first

Snakewiseman

and where do you expect you'll find one of those?

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#8 astrozombie37
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[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

i don't see how charging them with a crime does anyone any good (if they fail with the attempt). if anything, it'll make them want to kill themselves even more.

Pretty much what I was going to say.

Same here.
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#9 XilePrincess
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I've always thought that was stupid. Unless you're trying to commit suicide to get out of something (criminal charges, extreme debt, taking care of your kids..) then it's your own business what you do with your life.
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#10 Snakewiseman
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[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

[QUOTE="Snakewiseman"]

i never understood how someone could fail at killing themself

anyways I think the concept of suicide is stupid If i really was going to do it i would try my hand at a professional assasin first

and where do you expect you'll find one of those?

becoming one
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#11 diegosanchezMMA
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do you guys think a person has the right to take his/her own life?

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#12 kidsmelly
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I don't think it should be a crime. But people who fail at attempted suicide has a reason for wanting to commit suicide, how the heck do you fail at killing yourself..

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#13 super_mario_128
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do you guys think a person has the right to take his/her own life?

diegosanchezMMA
Of course. It's their life; not anybody else's.
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#14 Snakewiseman
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do you guys think a person has the right to take his/her own life?

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so are you pro choice or pro life lol
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#15 needled24-7
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[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

[QUOTE="Snakewiseman"]

i never understood how someone could fail at killing themself

anyways I think the concept of suicide is stupid If i really was going to do it i would try my hand at a professional assasin first

Snakewiseman

and where do you expect you'll find one of those?

becoming one

but to be a professional, you'll have to first be trained. you can't just be a nobody then jump to becoming a professional. so likely you'll need another professional to train you.

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#16 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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I don't think it's a crime to commit suicide.

If someone wants to remove themselves from the world, hey, have at it. That's a pretty selfish and cruel thing to do if you have loved ones, though.

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#17 Snakewiseman
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[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

[QUOTE="Snakewiseman"][QUOTE="needled24-7"]and where do you expect you'll find one of those?

becoming one

but to be a professional, you'll have to first be trained. you can't just be a nobody then jump to becoming a professional. so likely you'll need another professional to train you.

Im in perfect shape college eduacated black belt in martial arts acurate with hand gun etc. look at the boondock saints
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#18 needled24-7
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I don't think it's a crime to commit suicide.

If someone wants to remove themselves from the world, hey, have at it. That's a pretty selfish and cruel thing to do if you have loved ones, though.

airshocker

i'm pretty sure in the US it's against the law to commit suicide.

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#19 Nerkcon
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It depends on how they tried to do it. There was this guy who drove his car on a train track to commit suicide. At the last minute he got out of his car and ran. His car caused the train to crash and 200 people on the trained were either dead or badly injured. The guy got charged with manslaughter.
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#20 diegosanchezMMA
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[QUOTE="diegosanchezMMA"]

do you guys think a person has the right to take his/her own life?

Snakewiseman

so are you pro choice or pro life lol

i personally am about stuck in the middle....

its wrong to commit suicide but its a persons choice in the end

i some what be live a person if the fail in attempt to take their life to seek serious psychiatric help

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Yeah....I think the person involve wouldn't care if he's dead... But if I ever think about suicide, I think I'd attempt to rob an highly secure bank for millions so if I succeed, the thought of suicide may leave my head when I get the rewards....
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#22 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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i'm pretty sure in the US it's against the law to commit suicide.

needled24-7

It's a mickey mouse law. We don't enforce "attempted" suicide. We enforce those charged with assisting, or inciting.

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#23 smittenllama
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anyways I think the concept of suicide is stupidSnakewiseman
Because...?
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#24 needled24-7
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[QUOTE="needled24-7"]

i'm pretty sure in the US it's against the law to commit suicide.

airshocker

It's a mickey mouse law. We don't enforce "attempted" suicide. We enforce those charged with assisting, or inciting.

oh okay. why is it called the mickey mouse law though?

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#25 ShuichiChamp24
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Should suicide be considered a crime? No. Should they be allowed to do it? Why the hell not, it's their life not someone else.

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#26 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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oh okay. why is it called the mickey mouse law though?

needled24-7

Just a term we use for certain laws that are there but aren't enforced. In a case of attempted suicide, we're not going to charge the person if they're troubled, or are going through enough at the time. We might charge it against someone who is trying to escape charges and other moral obligations.

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#27 Snakewiseman
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[QUOTE="Snakewiseman"]anyways I think the concept of suicide is stupidsmittenllama
Because...?

because you might as well do something completley fun first like see if you could get away with robbing a bank if you dont then I mean at least you went out in a blaze of glory
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#28 smittenllama
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[QUOTE="smittenllama"][QUOTE="Snakewiseman"]anyways I think the concept of suicide is stupidSnakewiseman
Because...?

because you might as well do something completley fun first like see if you could get away with robbing a bank if you dont then I mean at least you went out in a blaze of glory

intriguing definition of 'blaze of glory' you have there :/
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[QUOTE="Snakewiseman"][QUOTE="smittenllama"]Because...?smittenllama
because you might as well do something completley fun first like see if you could get away with robbing a bank if you dont then I mean at least you went out in a blaze of glory

intriguing definition of 'blaze of glory' you have there :/

I think he means suicide by cop?

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#30 Snakewiseman
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[QUOTE="Snakewiseman"][QUOTE="smittenllama"]Because...?smittenllama
because you might as well do something completley fun first like see if you could get away with robbing a bank if you dont then I mean at least you went out in a blaze of glory

intriguing definition of 'blaze of glory' you have there :/

what is more exciting you driving off on a street bike shooting at cops with an ak-47 and eventually getting shot to death or sitting in a quiet room listening to staind and hinder while you shoot yourself in the head
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#31 Mochyc
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Sure, we should totally make suicidal people more miserable.
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#32 gameguy6700
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I think it's stupid that we even have laws against suicide in the first place. How exactly do you intimidate a person who wants to die? I mean, what are they going to do to punish a failed suicide attempter...kill him?

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#33 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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No, they have the right to life, they have the right to end it..

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#34 Snakewiseman
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I think it's stupid that we even have laws against suicide in the first place. How exactly do you intimidate a person who wants to die? I mean, what are they going to do to punish a failed suicide attempter...kill him?

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make him go to an amusement park
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#35 ShuichiChamp24
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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

I think it's stupid that we even have laws against suicide in the first place. How exactly do you intimidate a person who wants to die? I mean, what are they going to do to punish a failed suicide attempter...kill him?

Snakewiseman

make him go to an amusement park

Yeah, make them feel more alive!:twisted::P

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No, of course not.
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#37 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Yes. It should be punishable by death.
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*Detective 1 looks at Detective 2 and says* "case close...I am going on break"
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#39 Commander-Gree
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No. As long as they are not hurting anybody else, I don't think somebody should face charges after a failed suicide attempt. They should be given help though.
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#40 nymdj128
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yes, a person shouldnt be allowed to kill themselves. it should be a crime. its pretty much murder, except your killing yourself instead of someone else, but your still killing a person, which is murder.

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yes, its an incredibly selfish act. Maybe we should jail emo's just in case :P
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#42 smittenllama
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[QUOTE="smittenllama"][QUOTE="Snakewiseman"] because you might as well do something completley fun first like see if you could get away with robbing a bank if you dont then I mean at least you went out in a blaze of glorySnakewiseman
intriguing definition of 'blaze of glory' you have there :/

what is more exciting you driving off on a street bike shooting at cops with an ak-47 and eventually getting shot to death or sitting in a quiet room listening to staind and hinder while you shoot yourself in the head

Uh, the first, but the second has the advantage of not being massively immoral and tarnishing your reputation forever
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#43 Snakewiseman
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[QUOTE="Snakewiseman"][QUOTE="smittenllama"]intriguing definition of 'blaze of glory' you have there :/smittenllama
what is more exciting you driving off on a street bike shooting at cops with an ak-47 and eventually getting shot to death or sitting in a quiet room listening to staind and hinder while you shoot yourself in the head

Uh, the first, but the second has the advantage of not being massively immoral and tarnishing your reputation forever

what do you care about morals if your going to kill yourself
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#44 Lockedge
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i ask this question out of curiosity

people who fail when the attempt suicide are often prosecuted and have criminal charges against them

i guess this is more a moral question, should a person be able to take his/her own life?

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A person should have the right to do what they want with their own body, including ending their own life.
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#45 smittenllama
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[QUOTE="smittenllama"][QUOTE="Snakewiseman"] what is more exciting you driving off on a street bike shooting at cops with an ak-47 and eventually getting shot to death or sitting in a quiet room listening to staind and hinder while you shoot yourself in the head Snakewiseman
Uh, the first, but the second has the advantage of not being massively immoral and tarnishing your reputation forever

what do you care about morals if your going to kill yourself

Being about to kill myself wouldn't give me a free pass to be immoral. Shooting people still has a utilitarian negative effect and hence is still immoral.
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[QUOTE="smittenllama"][QUOTE="Snakewiseman"] what is more exciting you driving off on a street bike shooting at cops with an ak-47 and eventually getting shot to death or sitting in a quiet room listening to staind and hinder while you shoot yourself in the head Snakewiseman
Uh, the first, but the second has the advantage of not being massively immoral and tarnishing your reputation forever

what do you care about morals if your going to kill yourself

just because you're committing suicide doesn't mean you're evil
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#47 lobodob
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Why would it be a crime? If you succeed your dead, if you fail, then your either a sissy or realized you have something to live for and should get help. Its a personal choice.
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#48 Duxsox56
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No, people who attempt suicide should not be prosecuted; they should be given mental help.

Morally, I think suicide is wrong and cowardly. You must face your problems, nottake your lifeto escape them. You leave all who knew you and cared for you heartbroken and wondering what they could have done to change your mind. They feel insignificant and useless.

Saying that, I do not think those who have attempted suicide are bad people. One of the happiest and kindest people I have ever known recently attempted suicide. I do not think badly of him because of it, I only wish that he can make it through his hidden depression and realize all that he would have left behind.

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#49 DJ-Lafleur
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No. If you're commiting suicide, you probably have alot of issues going on, so instead of chargng them and making the person more miserable, they should send them to a psychiatrist for help or something, unless of course the suicidal person does an actual crime before attempting to kill himself, then the person can get help, but while he/she is in jail.

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Yes.Obviously they aren't motivated enough....