Should we go to war with Iran?

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#151 _R34LiTY_
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No. There's no need to flex the bicep anymore than we have already. And if it is flexxed, then for what?!?

Is it because the US is salty that it lost control of Iran when it's dictatorial installed Shah of Iran was overthrown by the people and hasn't been able to get it under it's wing again?

Maybe the US is angry that Iran won't give in to American hegemony and allow itself to become another puppet state for the interests of the corporate conglomerates involved in shaping the world the way it is,..

Or better yet, maybe it has to do with the pipeline deal between India and Iran to run pipe through Pakistan and bring to crude to India in sales denominated in gold, putting either an end or slight hurdle to the "Allied" Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline currently under construction.

Add to that the "fear" of Iran possibly arming itself with nuclear armaments following it's nuclear energy program along with whatever other exagerrations that follow and I suppose you have more than enough reason why a despotic government such as the United States very own would want to strongarm nation for it's own benefit to itself and Israel.

Despite those paranoid fears, I don't believe we should go to war in a region of the world that we never had any business in to begin with until we invited ourselves.

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#152 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I don't want to risk peoples lives, I don't like war and I think we shouldn't get too involved. However Iran getting nuclear capabilities is a seroius issue, they have some pretty extream groups there that would love to launch a nuke at Israel or the US.

Unfortnately I think war between Israel and Iran is going to be a real possiblity soon, but Israel will kick Irans ass and put them back into their place. It's a shame Israel is the only real stable democracy in the Middle East, and the only country that values human rights in the region.

They are constanlty getting bullied by all the arab nations surronding it. Israel is the victim.

ShadowMoses900

not you again......

Why don't you just come clean and admit you hate Israel already, judging from the way you act on here it seems like you do.

Iran getting a nuke is EVERYBODY'S problem! Iran wanting to kill Israel is also a huge problem as they are our ally and the only true and stable democracy in a region of ruthless dictators and tyrants that trample on human rights. I want war to be avoidied as much as possible, and I don't want Israel to do anything stupid and do a preemptive strike, they should listen to what we tell them to do.

However if it comes down to it, Iran would have to be stopped at all costs from getting a nuke. There is no way around this, they have extreamists in their country that would love to blow up alot of people, including you.

I don't hate Israel, just because I don't agree with the right-wing government of Israel all of a sudden I hate Israel? And your last line....are you saying im an extremist that wants to blow up a lot of people? or are you saying extremists want to blow me up?
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#153 -Sun_Tzu-
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War with Iran wouldn't accomplish anything.
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#154 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]not you again......Person0

Why don't you just come clean and admit you hate Israel already, judging from the way you act on here it seems like you do.

Iran getting a nuke is EVERYBODY'S problem! Iran wanting to kill Israel is also a huge problem as they are our ally and the only true and stable democracy in a region of ruthless dictators and tyrants that trample on human rights. I want war to be avoidied as much as possible, and I don't want Israel to do anything stupid and do a preemptive strike, they should listen to what we tell them to do.

However if it comes down to it, Iran would have to be stopped at all costs from getting a nuke. There is no way around this, they have extreamists in their country that would love to blow up alot of people, including you.

Yes IF (thats a big if they are currently not known to be building one) Iran gets a nuke they will instantly use it against Israel and be turned to glass is retaliation ....or they could keep it and then not have to worry about being invaded..... i wonder which one they would do.

And Iran wont instantly attack Israel f they get a nuke since they know they will be glassed half an hour later. grow up man, your posts are goddamn moronic.
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#155 coolbeans90
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Let's take a break from the war thing for a decade or two.

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#156 metroidprime55
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I don't want us to go to war with Iran, we've been fighting for long enough I think we need to ease up the the hero act for awhile.
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#157 DroidPhysX
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We did see how well the last two wars worked out for us.

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#158 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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No.

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#159 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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We did see how well the last two wars worked out for us.

DroidPhysX

What didn't work well with them?

We accomplished both missions.

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#160 svm128
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No, no more wars please.

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#161 abuabed
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Who the **** are "we" anyways?
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#162 pero2008
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I would say no. They are Israel's problem, and there are ways to fix this problem without going to war. Start the whole "Arab Spring" like thing in Iran and support it, etc. A majority of people in Iran probably want it to be like the West, the authority is the problem there.

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#163 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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I would say no. They are Israel's problem, and there are ways to fix this problem without going to war. Start the whole "Arab Spring" like thing in Iran and support it, etc. A majority of people in Iran probably want it to be like the West, the authority is the problem there.

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They tried and were killed for it.

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#164 damojeebs
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should you's go to war with iran...lol may as well,america goes to war with everyone else.
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#165 pero2008
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They tried, but the U.S didn't support them. I believe if they would of supported them we wouldn't have this problem right now. The U.S supported Egypts uprising, etc but not Irans.
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#166 dramaybaz
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America should go to war with America!
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#167 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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They tried, but the U.S didn't support them. I believe if they would of supported them we wouldn't have this problem right now. The U.S supported Egypts uprising, etc but not Irans.pero2008

Doubtful. We would have just been blamed for trying to destabilize the region.

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#168 ZumaJones07
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nope, we have no business over there and i'm not afraid of terrorists doing sht because they won't.
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#169 GreySun369
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I never supported the war in the Middle East from the start because of the way our soldiers treat the people there. But I have to admit that Iran's threats have been worrying me lately and with all that we've done to piss the Middle East off I wouldn't be surprised if they did try to attack us with something big. I guess as long as this war really is about protecting our own country and not about power-hungry corruption I guess I would be OK with it. But knowing our government I can see them taking advantage of the people in the future just like they've done in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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#170 Serraph105
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Hopefully we find a diplomatic solution to our differences with Iran.

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#171 Nayef_shroof
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

Maybe 'cause we keep spitting on them they keep getting more mad at us? Maybe if we back off a bit, stop pressuring them, maybe they'll become more friendly? Threatening people usually has the side-effect of pissing them off.

I don't like the idea of nuclear weapons at all, they're unnecessary...

Complete failure of empathy, The USA is a sociopathic nation it seems.

airshocker

Maybe they shouldn't have taken our people hostage? Maybe they should let the UN inspectors do their job, if they're actually innocent.

Iran will never do anything it doesn't want to do. And I believe the US and Israel are justified in waging war if we had to.

Your "people" instilled a corrupt/oppressive pro-western dictator to replace a democratically elected Iranian leader (Hypocritically, your country doesn't even care to forcefully/brutally spread democracy). Why? For oil (resource) privileges, at the expense of the Iranian peoples. Your "people" also supplied Iraq with weaponry and illegal biological armaments during the Iran-Iraq war, causing the death of more than a million Iranian civillians (During this time, Saddam Hussein was America's ally, so it's obviously apparent America's sole priority is about furthering their own motives, at the expense of various peoples, not "policing the world" or ensuring international security). Of course, lets not forget that America has been the only nation on the planet to sanction use of nuclear weaponry, let alone the fact that these bombs were dropped on civillian areas (Totaling approximately 500,000 civillian deaths). Regardless of the fact that the Japanese offered peace accords, the U.S. demanded for an unconditional surrender... Need i remind you that the Iraq war cost the lives of 1.1 million iraqi civillians due to excess violent deaths and an approximate 700000-1.3 million non-violent excess deaths. A war that the U.S. argued was was justified in "promoting democracy in the Middle East" and "searching for WMDs", when in reality, the U.S. eradicated their own puppet (Saddam Hussein) that they supported and established in Iraq decades before, even whilst he committed atrocities to other peoples, tyrannically oppressed the Iraqi population, etc. The Afghan war total deaths equate to 1 million excess violent deaths, but unknown non-violent excess deaths. Compounding the debilitating effects of war that you so readily support, Iraq and Afghanistan rank amongst the lowest in terms of standard of living, with millions of Iraqis and Afghans requiring foreign aid just to survive.
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Your "people" instilled a corrupt/oppressive pro-western dictator to replace a democratically elected Iranian leader (Hypocritically, your country doesn't even care to forcefully/brutally spread democracy). Why? For oil (resource) privileges, at the expense of the Iranian peoples. Your "people" also supplied Iraq with weaponry and illegal biological armaments during the Iran-Iraq war, causing the death of more than a million Iranian civillians (During this time, Saddam Hussein was America's ally, so it's obviously apparent America's sole priority is about furthering their own motives, at the expense of various peoples, not "policing the world" or ensuring international security). Of course, lets not forget that America has been the only nation on the planet to sanction use of nuclear weaponry, let alone the fact that these bombs were dropped on civillian areas (Totaling approximately 500,000 civillian deaths). Regardless of the fact that the Japanese offered peace accords, the U.S. demanded for an unconditional surrender... Need i remind you that the Iraq war cost the lives of 1.1 million iraqi civillians due to excess violent deaths and an approximate 700000-1.3 million non-violent excess deaths. A war that the U.S. argued was was justified in "promoting democracy in the Middle East" and "searching for WMDs", when in reality, the U.S. eradicated their own puppet (Saddam Hussein) that they supported and established in Iraq decades before, even whilst he committed atrocities to other peoples, tyrannically oppressed the Iraqi population, etc. The Afghan war total deaths equate to 1 million excess violent deaths, but unknown non-violent excess deaths. Compounding the debilitating effects of war that you so readily support, Iraq and Afghanistan rank amongst the lowest in terms of standard of living, with millions of Iraqis and Afghans requiring foreign aid just to survive.Nayef_shroof

Which innocent people that were taken hostage did any of that? When you can answer that, then maybe I'll respond to the rest of your post.

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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

Maybe 'cause we keep spitting on them they keep getting more mad at us? Maybe if we back off a bit, stop pressuring them, maybe they'll become more friendly? Threatening people usually has the side-effect of pissing them off.

I don't like the idea of nuclear weapons at all, they're unnecessary...

Complete failure of empathy, The USA is a sociopathic nation it seems.

Nayef_shroof

Maybe they shouldn't have taken our people hostage? Maybe they should let the UN inspectors do their job, if they're actually innocent.

Iran will never do anything it doesn't want to do. And I believe the US and Israel are justified in waging war if we had to.

Your "people" instilled a corrupt/oppressive pro-western dictator to replace a democratically elected Iranian leader (Hypocritically, your country doesn't even care to forcefully/brutally spread democracy). Why? For oil (resource) privileges, at the expense of the Iranian peoples. Your "people" also supplied Iraq with weaponry and illegal biological armaments during the Iran-Iraq war, causing the death of more than a million Iranian civillians (During this time, Saddam Hussein was America's ally, so it's obviously apparent America's sole priority is about furthering their own motives, at the expense of various peoples, not "policing the world" or ensuring international security). Of course, lets not forget that America has been the only nation on the planet to sanction use of nuclear weaponry, let alone the fact that these bombs were dropped on civillian areas (Totaling approximately 500,000 civillian deaths). Regardless of the fact that the Japanese offered peace accords, the U.S. demanded for an unconditional surrender... Need i remind you that the Iraq war cost the lives of 1.1 million iraqi civillians due to excess violent deaths and an approximate 700000-1.3 million non-violent excess deaths. A war that the U.S. argued was was justified in "promoting democracy in the Middle East" and "searching for WMDs", when in reality, the U.S. eradicated their own puppet (Saddam Hussein) that they supported and established in Iraq decades before, even whilst he committed atrocities to other peoples, tyrannically oppressed the Iraqi population, etc. The Afghan war total deaths equate to 1 million excess violent deaths, but unknown non-violent excess deaths. Compounding the debilitating effects of war that you so readily support, Iraq and Afghanistan rank amongst the lowest in terms of standard of living, with millions of Iraqis and Afghans requiring foreign aid just to survive.

Don't worry, your points will get ignored. True as they may be.
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#174 fidosim
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War with Iran wouldn't accomplish anything. -Sun_Tzu-
It would accomplish kicking Iran's ass.
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#175 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]War with Iran wouldn't accomplish anything. fidosim
It would accomplish kicking Iran's ass.

Ass...kicking?

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is there like a statistic out there stating the probability of them getting a WMD, handing it to terrorists, and the terrorists actually using it? that would be cool to see. to me and my very limited view, i don't see that happening at all because they are sure to know that their shtty little weapon will bring hell to them ten-fold should they attack anybody else.
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#177 fidosim
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[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]War with Iran wouldn't accomplish anything. DroidPhysX

It would accomplish kicking Iran's ass.

Ass...kicking?

Yes. Our foot would become firmly lodged in Iran's ass.

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#178 Stesilaus
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The worst case would be if Iran does aquire nuclear weapons and threatens to use them.

Wasdie

That would actually be the best-case scenario.

Faced with so many bullies---the US, the EU, Israel and their puppets in the Gulf Cooperation Council---Iran needs nothing less than a nuclear deterrent.

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#179 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"]

Your "people" instilled a corrupt/oppressive pro-western dictator to replace a democratically elected Iranian leader (Hypocritically, your country doesn't even care to forcefully/brutally spread democracy). Why? For oil (resource) privileges, at the expense of the Iranian peoples. Your "people" also supplied Iraq with weaponry and illegal biological armaments during the Iran-Iraq war, causing the death of more than a million Iranian civillians (During this time, Saddam Hussein was America's ally, so it's obviously apparent America's sole priority is about furthering their own motives, at the expense of various peoples, not "policing the world" or ensuring international security). Of course, lets not forget that America has been the only nation on the planet to sanction use of nuclear weaponry, let alone the fact that these bombs were dropped on civillian areas (Totaling approximately 500,000 civillian deaths). Regardless of the fact that the Japanese offered peace accords, the U.S. demanded for an unconditional surrender...

Need i remind you that the Iraq war cost the lives of 1.1 million iraqi civillians due to excess violent deaths and an approximate 700000-1.3 million non-violent excess deaths. A war that the U.S. argued was was justified in "promoting democracy in the Middle East" and "searching for WMDs", when in reality, the U.S. eradicated their own puppet (Saddam Hussein) that they supported and established in Iraq decades before, even whilst he committed atrocities to other peoples, tyrannically oppressed the Iraqi population, etc. The Afghan war total deaths equate to 1 million excess violent deaths, but unknown non-violent excess deaths. Compounding the debilitating effects of war that you so readily support, Iraq and Afghanistan rank amongst the lowest in terms of standard of living, with millions of Iraqis and Afghans requiring foreign aid just to survive.airshocker

Which innocent people that were taken hostage did any of that? When you can answer that, then maybe I'll respond to the rest of your post.

Nothing any of them did 'justifies' them being captured. I know empathy is a tough concept for you, since apparently you're a damn sociopath, but pissing off people, kicking them in the nuts every chance you get, they'll eventually get mad at you.

Have you ever felt, when you hear of a pedophile or murderer "Prison is too good for you" and desired to kill that person? Those are the types of emotions people are likely be feeling. This is one of the weaknesses of human emotions. Of course the prisioners Iran takes don't deserve it, but they(Iran) SURE AS HELL don't deserve what we're doing to them either. Attacking their government IS an attack on their people.

These attacks of ours, only serve to piss people off at us, keeping in power a government that is anti-American, because that's how the people in that nation feel.

What did the Japanese civilians do to deserve to be fire-bombed then nuked? Individually, nothing, they were just normal people, living their normal lives, not harming anyone, yet they were murdered by us, why? Passion. We were passionately motivated by the attack on Pearl Harbor, allowed ourselves to become irrational, and justify murder under the pretense of 'victory'. Attacking civilian populations is never acceptable, but who cares when they're emotional.

Just so we're clear as to what 'empathy' means - the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another.

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People who said yes should be educated to death.

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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]is there like a statistic out there stating the probability of them getting a WMD, handing it to terrorists, and the terrorists actually using it? that would be cool to see. to me and my very limited view, i don't see that happening at all because they are sure to know that their shtty little weapon will bring hell to them ten-fold should they attack anybody else.

the probability of iran getting a WMD and handing it to terrorists is exactly the same as saddam hussein getting a WMD. zero. i think it is favorable for everyone in the middle east not to take action against iran. a preemptive strike from iran is highly unlikely considering they have nothing to gain from it.
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#182 call_of_duty_10
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Sure,sure!

Lets forget that the economy is totally effed right now and spend billions on war!

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#183 K0PaSk4
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I would say no. They are Israel's problem, and there are ways to fix this problem without going to war. Start the whole "Arab Spring" like thing in Iran and support it, etc. A majority of people in Iran probably want it to be like the West, the authority is the problem there.

pero2008

Iran is hardly Israel's problem, the war of words between Netanyahu peeps and AhmadDJ is mostly only gag reflex, behind the stage their relationship are far more serene.

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#184 muffintheduffin
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Here are the facts about Iran's Nuclear Program, and most importantly how completely overblown the situation is;

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WaPo 2/11/12: "Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu criticized economic sanctions against Iran as ineffective and warned that any military strike against the country's nuclear facilities would inflame the region while doing little to curb Iran's ambitions..."

"I am telling you, a military strike is a disaster," Davutoglu told a gathering at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank. "It should not be an option."

I wish more Americans knew that:

1. Iran has signed the NPT which grants them in paragraph IV the "inalienable right" to develop nuclear technology for power generation and medical imaging isotopes. It is an easy google, see for yourself. Iran is not going to surrender their legal rights under the treaty.

2. Iran's nuclear generation and enrichment facilities are currently under the constant inspection of the IAEA including the Qom facility. This inspection includes 24/7 video surveillance.

3. There is no allegation by the IAEA that ANY enriched uranium has been diverted from its surveillance.

4. There is no allegation that Iran has enriched any uranium beyond the 20% required for medical imaging isotopes, whereas enrichment to around 95% is required for any weaponization purposes, or that there is any violation of their NPT treaty obligations.

5. "Might", "could", and "maybe" are not good reasons for another war that would certainly result in vast chaos from Lebanon to Pakistan militarily and politically.

6. Iran with no nuclear weapons is zero military threat against nuclear superpower Israel.

7. Israel has not signed the NPT and is in possession of hundreds of nuclear warheads. More importantly, it possesses the most advanced delivery systems in the world including nuclear powered ballistic missile firing submarines. A nation with zero nuclear weapons does not attack one with hundreds.

8. Even if (a hypothetical) Iran did some day acquire a nuclear weapon (to secure itself from vicarious nuclear attack) it could never use it against Israel because of the intertwined nature of the Palestinian and Israeli populations. Al-Aqsa Mosque, the third holiest site in world Islam is in Jerusalem and they would never risk its destruction.

9. A war initiated by Israel would spread to our interests in about half an hour. Prices for petroleum would certainly skyrocket to who knows what level, collapsing our fragile economy like a house of cards. Same for the whole world's economy for the same reasons.

10. So if we really want all the hugely negative consequences, just raise your hands now. If not, this had better be prevented or it will be the capper that puts us in the crapper for good.

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#185 PiscesChick93
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No no no no no no no no no. We don't need to have more wars, we need less spending in general, there are more important things than policing the world, like education and health.Inconsistancy

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#186 Fire_Emblem_RD
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I think America should focus on its own problems for once.
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Sure, Get yourselves into even more debt. I'll be chilling in Canada drinking beer and not giving a f*ck.
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#188 lilasianwonder
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Would be interesting news.
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#189 kuraimen
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I can't believe some people are saying yes after the whole fiasco of the past decade of wars, are some people really this shortsighted? they got duped into going to a war that cost thousands of lives and let them in a precarious economic situation and they are getting ready to be duped again? I almost want the US to go to war so that they go bankrupt and defeated in the hopes that they can never again act on their warmongering attitude.
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#190 tocool340
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Why the hell do we have to get involved in more wars?! Why don't let some other nation break up the two kids fighting?... If we REALLY need to go over there, perhaps we should wait for them to smash each other up THEN go over there and get involve. That way our job is more easier...
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#191 nunovlopes
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[QUOTE="peterw007"]

The only time I would ever condone a war is if Iran explodes a nuclear weapon on a USA city or otherwise invades the USA.

The USA has no business as the world's police force.

Do we realize how much other countries despise America just because it thinks it can stick its nose into other people's business?

Iran has stated many hundreds of times that it just wants nuclear power for energy.

We don't have any trace of evidence that Iran has any sort of nuclear weapon...just like we didn't have any proof that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

Let's not make the same mistake twice, people.

LJS9502_basic

If a country has the capability to wipe others off the map....it should be a concern to most if not all countries. What a bizarre thing to say. This isn't the same as domestic policy. OT makes me sad.:(

Many countries have thecapability to wipe others off the map...

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#192 nunovlopes
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[QUOTE="peterw007"]

The USA have no business as the world's police force.

airshocker

Yes we do. The proliferation of nuclear weapons is our concern, especially since they'll be going to our enemies.

No you don't. And the reason you have so many enemies is *because* you have been trying to be the world's police for the last 50 years, sticking your nose in other people's business and even supporting dictatorships whenever it suits your needs. It's not because you're free and have a perfect society...

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#193 nunovlopes
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

Great.

Now show me the evidence that Iran has (or is trying to get) nuclear weapons to use for terrorist purposes.

peterw007

The fact that they won't let our inspectors into every facet of their nuclear program. That's a country trying to hide something.

Maybe they don't want the USA snooping around in their business?

This

I'd like to see the USA or Israel or any other country happy to have inspectorssnooping around.

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#194 Jd1680a
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Here is what I fear with war with Iran. There will be two sides, United States and its allies against China, Russia and Iran.
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#196 DarthJohnova
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Ilovegames1992

:lol:

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#197 damojeebs
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Sure,sure!

Lets forget that the economy is totally effed right now and spend billions on war!

call_of_duty_10
the government profits from conflict while the people pay the expenses.
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#198 shakmaster13
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Iran and North Korea are two of the last countries to resist US dominance in their economies. Cuba would love the embargo to be removed, but our government is stupid when it comes to dealing with Cuba. Also, half the people in this thread make it seem as if Iran actually has nukes and wants to declare war on Israel if they get one, ignoring the fact that Israel has hundreds, each more advanced than any Iran can come up with in the next decade. Pakistan(whose government supports and funds the Taliban) poses a much greater threat to world peace and stability than Iran ever has or ever will. The only reason we don't go after them is because they have nukes. People fail to realize that the US policy towards Iran uses the nuclear issue as a cover for attempting to force regime change through economic sanctions so that we can just go ahead and take their oil and natural gas reserves. I'd expect mods at least to know what they are talking about before they post, especially when saying Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map (something Ahmadinejad, as much as I dislike him, never said) based off of botched translations of his speeches and selective quotes used by the media. This place is worse than /pol/ and almost as bad as freerepublic when it comes to discussing foreign policy and the reasoning behind it.
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#199 shakmaster13
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

Sure,sure!

Lets forget that the economy is totally effed right now and spend billions on war!

damojeebs
the government profits from conflict while the people pay the expenses.

The government doesn't profit at all. Members of legislators profit by having re-election campaigns paid off by lobbyists now that we can have super PACs and defense contractors/energy companies are the only other entities outside of Israel that would profit from a war in Iran. There is a reason why the US armed forces are such huge contributors to the Ron Paul campaign. The government and its bureaucracies don't profit from wars. In times of war, most agencies not related to the defense department or homeland security lose funding.
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#200 Optical_Order
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It'd be a colossal waste of everyone's time and lives.