Should we prosecute former Nazi soldiers?

If the former Nazi soldier was merely a Werhmacht regular, then I think he should be left alone. If he was SS, I can see why the US would be interested in him. The SS is like an exclusive club. Ordinary Germans can't just join. You have to look like and prove (medically and politically) that you are a pure embodiment of the "master race." They were considered the fanatics of the Nazis on the battlefield. They had a habit of not taking any prisoners which is why there were several occasions where US troops were ordered not to take SS as prisoners if the latter surrendered. There were some atrocities by US troops especially when they started capturing the concentration camps. A lot of them were committed on who they believed were SS.

we already do prosecute former Nazi's. I hope you realise there is a big difference between a German and a Nazi. If you think we should arrest ex-German military than you are insane.

If proven some1 is/was a nazi, then yes. they have to be destroyed

The problem is a lot of them were forced, and the people prosecuting them if subject under the same conditions would have done the same thing, and that is serve or be killed (or sent to prison) It is a very difficult process when trying to separate the good from the bad because it takes eye witness's and evidence. You can't simply look at a person and say "He was a Nazi so he deserves to be punished" it isn't that simple, and it's sad that society still does this.

It's typical though, humans love to pin the blame on something because they believe it will help them move on. The problem is that it doesn't, and it wont change anything. Prosecuting an 88 year old man is a waste of resources and a waste of time. A lot of the soldiers who were responsible for WW2, and responsible for the deaths of millions of people have already been tried and killed. The fact is you just cant get all of them nor can you blame all of them.

So no, at this point in human history its time to move on from this.

Of course, on a case by case basis.

SUD123456

Yes. But we shouldn't stop there, they all should be put to death. This goes for anyone who was involved in the Nazi party, either soldier or politican, they all must die. Modern day nazi's and skin heads can be put in the same line along with them.

I would enjoy hurting them, I really would.

Yes. But we shouldn't stop there, they all should be put to death. This goes for anyone who was involved in the Nazi party, either soldier or politican, they all must die. Modern day nazi's and skin heads can be put in the same line along with them.

I would enjoy hurting them, I really would.

ShadowMoses900

I would enjoy hurting them, I really would.ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]I would enjoy hurting them, I really would.chessmaster1989

I have had family killed by Nazis, and not all of them faced justice. Quite a few of them ran off to South America and other parts of the world, I know one of them went to this village and they did some weird experiments on the people there that made the locals give births to twins.

They need to be brought to justice, and the best way to do that in my eyes is to make them hurt, bad. Shooting them would be too easy, not enough pain involved. It's important they suffer before that, in fact death it's self is too easy, just hurt them really bad then lock them up in a dark room forever.

If I had it my way, I would order their tounges to be cut out then send them to work in Israel as slaves for the rest of their lives. That would be justice.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]I would enjoy hurting them, I really would.ShadowMoses900

I have had family killed by Nazis, and not all of them faced justice. Quite a few of them ran off to South America and other parts of the world, I know one of them went to this village and they did some weird experiments on the people there that made the locals give births to twins.

They need to be brought to justice, and the best way to do that in my eyes is to make them hurt, bad. Shooting them would be too easy, not enough pain involved. It's important they suffer before that, in fact death it's self is too easy, just hurt them really bad then lock them up in a dark room forever.

If I had it my way, I would order their tounges to be cut out then send them to work in Israel as slaves for the rest of their lives. That would be justice.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]I would enjoy hurting them, I really would.ShadowMoses900

I have had family killed by Nazis, and not all of them faced justice. Quite a few of them ran off to South America and other parts of the world, I know one of them went to this village and they did some weird experiments on the people there that made the locals give births to twins.

They need to be brought to justice, and the best way to do that in my eyes is to make them hurt, bad. Shooting them would be too easy, not enough pain involved. It's important they suffer before that, in fact death it's self is too easy, just hurt them really bad then lock them up in a dark room forever.

If I had it my way, I would order their tounges to be cut out then send them to work in Israel as slaves for the rest of their lives. That would be justice.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] You have some serious issues dude. :|dave123321

I have had family killed by Nazis, and not all of them faced justice. Quite a few of them ran off to South America and other parts of the world, I know one of them went to this village and they did some weird experiments on the people there that made the locals give births to twins.

They need to be brought to justice, and the best way to do that in my eyes is to make them hurt, bad. Shooting them would be too easy, not enough pain involved. It's important they suffer before that, in fact death it's self is too easy, just hurt them really bad then lock them up in a dark room forever.

If I had it my way, I would order their tounges to be cut out then send them to work in Israel as slaves for the rest of their lives. That would be justice.

I think you are right, in the process you become the enemy you fear. I hate nazis, but I must abide by my beliefs that torture is wrong, even though I hate nazis with a passion. I hate them just as much as I hate pedophiles, but they still need to be locked up for life at the very least.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] You have some serious issues dude. :|TrueAmerican007

I have had family killed by Nazis, and not all of them faced justice. Quite a few of them ran off to South America and other parts of the world, I know one of them went to this village and they did some weird experiments on the people there that made the locals give births to twins.

They need to be brought to justice, and the best way to do that in my eyes is to make them hurt, bad. Shooting them would be too easy, not enough pain involved. It's important they suffer before that, in fact death it's self is too easy, just hurt them really bad then lock them up in a dark room forever.

If I had it my way, I would order their tounges to be cut out then send them to work in Israel as slaves for the rest of their lives. That would be justice.

[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I have had family killed by Nazis, and not all of them faced justice. Quite a few of them ran off to South America and other parts of the world, I know one of them went to this village and they did some weird experiments on the people there that made the locals give births to twins.

They need to be brought to justice, and the best way to do that in my eyes is to make them hurt, bad. Shooting them would be too easy, not enough pain involved. It's important they suffer before that, in fact death it's self is too easy, just hurt them really bad then lock them up in a dark room forever.

If I had it my way, I would order their tounges to be cut out then send them to work in Israel as slaves for the rest of their lives. That would be justice.

ShadowMoses900

I think you are right, in the process you become the enemy you fear. I hate nazis, but I must abide by my beliefs that torture is wrong, even though I hate nazis with a passion. I hate them just as much as I hate pedophiles, but they still need to be locked up for life at the very least.

If alive and can be proven to have committed murder, I see no problem in putting former Nazis to death even if they are 100.

roulettethedog

I believe in the justice system model based on punishment as deterrence, and quite frankly, I don't find giving out life scentences or whatever to senile war criminals to be deterring anything....

ITT ShadowMoses900 embraces his sadismMrPraline

How would you feel if someone killed your family? Treated them like dirt and took away their rights and then sent them to gas chambers and God knows what else? You wold want to hurt the people that did that as well.

And to the people that use the excuse "they were only following orders", those people are just as guilty and also must be brought to justice. Principles stand over orders, and they know what they were doing is wrong.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]ITT ShadowMoses900 embraces his sadismShadowMoses900

How would you feel if someone killed your family? Treated them like dirt and took away their rights and then sent them to gas chambers and God knows what else? You wold want to hurt the people that did that as well.

And to the people that use the excuse "they were only following orders", those people are just as guilty and also must be brought to justice. Principles stand over orders, and they know what they were doing is wrong.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]ITT ShadowMoses900 embraces his sadismShadowMoses900

How would you feel if someone killed your family? Treated them like dirt and took away their rights and then sent them to gas chambers and God knows what else? You wold want to hurt the people that did that as well.

And to the people that use the excuse "they were only following orders", those people are just as guilty and also must be brought to justice. Principles stand over orders, and they know what they were doing is wrong.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]ITT ShadowMoses900 embraces his sadismTrueAmerican007

How would you feel if someone killed your family? Treated them like dirt and took away their rights and then sent them to gas chambers and God knows what else? You wold want to hurt the people that did that as well.

And to the people that use the excuse "they were only following orders", those people are just as guilty and also must be brought to justice. Principles stand over orders, and they know what they were doing is wrong.

I like that game, I alternate betwen that and Black Ops 2.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]ITT ShadowMoses900 embraces his sadismShadowMoses900

How would you feel if someone killed your family? Treated them like dirt and took away their rights and then sent them to gas chambers and God knows what else? You wold want to hurt the people that did that as well.

And to the people that use the excuse "they were only following orders", those people are just as guilty and also must be brought to justice. Principles stand over orders, and they know what they were doing is wrong.

There is no right or wrong. There is only culturally acceptable and culturally unacceptable.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]ITT ShadowMoses900 embraces his sadismShadowMoses900

How would you feel if someone killed your family? Treated them like dirt and took away their rights and then sent them to gas chambers and God knows what else? You wold want to hurt the people that did that as well.

And to the people that use the excuse "they were only following orders", those people are just as guilty and also must be brought to justice. Principles stand over orders, and they know what they were doing is wrong.

There is nothing wrong with what the Nazis did, in fact it was beneficial towards the world in the long run with problems like overpopulation today and whatnot.

There is nothing wrong with what the Nazis did, in fact it was beneficial towards the world in the long run with problems like overpopulation today and whatnot.

TheFallenDemon

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[QUOTE="MrPraline"]ITT ShadowMoses900 embraces his sadismChickity_China

How would you feel if someone killed your family? Treated them like dirt and took away their rights and then sent them to gas chambers and God knows what else? You wold want to hurt the people that did that as well.

And to the people that use the excuse "they were only following orders", those people are just as guilty and also must be brought to justice. Principles stand over orders, and they know what they were doing is wrong.

There is no right or wrong. There is only culturally acceptable and culturally unacceptable.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]ITT ShadowMoses900 embraces his sadismMrPraline

How would you feel if someone killed your family? Treated them like dirt and took away their rights and then sent them to gas chambers and God knows what else? You wold want to hurt the people that did that as well.

And to the people that use the excuse "they were only following orders", those people are just as guilty and also must be brought to justice. Principles stand over orders, and they know what they were doing is wrong.

It is against my values to torture people, but I would want them to feel pain a bit. But in the end I would probably just want them to be locked up for life, I think the death penalty is the easy way out. I think life behind bars would be more painful.

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[QUOTE="MrPraline"]ITT ShadowMoses900 embraces his sadismTrueAmerican007

How would you feel if someone killed your family? Treated them like dirt and took away their rights and then sent them to gas chambers and God knows what else? You wold want to hurt the people that did that as well.

And to the people that use the excuse "they were only following orders", those people are just as guilty and also must be brought to justice. Principles stand over orders, and they know what they were doing is wrong.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]ITT ShadowMoses900 embraces his sadismChickity_China

How would you feel if someone killed your family? Treated them like dirt and took away their rights and then sent them to gas chambers and God knows what else? You wold want to hurt the people that did that as well.

And to the people that use the excuse "they were only following orders", those people are just as guilty and also must be brought to justice. Principles stand over orders, and they know what they were doing is wrong.

There is no right or wrong. There is only culturally acceptable and culturally unacceptable.

This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. You don't think rape is really wrong? If society said it was ok all of a sudden you would be fine with it? People like you would never fight for change, if this was the civil rights era you would be saying "oh it's not wrong that they treat you as second class, there is no wrong" you would just go with whatever the majority said.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

How would you feel if someone killed your family? Treated them like dirt and took away their rights and then sent them to gas chambers and God knows what else? You wold want to hurt the people that did that as well.

And to the people that use the excuse "they were only following orders", those people are just as guilty and also must be brought to justice. Principles stand over orders, and they know what they were doing is wrong.

ShadowMoses900

It is against my values to torture people, but I would want them to feel pain a bit. But in the end I would probably just want them to be locked up for life, I think the death penalty is the easy way out. I think life behind bars would be more painful.

[QUOTE="TrueAmerican007"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

How would you feel if someone killed your family? Treated them like dirt and took away their rights and then sent them to gas chambers and God knows what else? You wold want to hurt the people that did that as well.

And to the people that use the excuse "they were only following orders", those people are just as guilty and also must be brought to justice. Principles stand over orders, and they know what they were doing is wrong.

dave123321

I don't know who he is or why he keeps posting irrelevant stuff. I like All-Stars and I don't care about GS review, but that has nothing to do with this.

[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="TrueAmerican007"] Agreed. They should be forced to play Playstation All Stars Flop Royale.ShadowMoses900

I don't know who he is or why he keeps posting irrelevant stuff. I like All-Stars and I don't care about GS review, but that has nothing to do with this.

Gitmo houses Muslims and not jews, right? P. sure that would fly for shadowmosses so it doesnt matter if Obama closes it.DroidPhysX

I don't hate muslims, stop spreading false things about me. I don't support torture either, not in Gitmo or anywhere. Though I do think suspected terrorists should be housed seperately from the mainland, but that is another debate. I don't support torture.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]Gitmo houses Muslims and not jews, right? P. sure that would fly for shadowmosses so it doesnt matter if Obama closes it.ShadowMoses900

I don't hate muslims, stop spreading false things about me. I don't support torture either, not in Gitmo or anywhere. Though I do think suspected terrorists should be housed seperately from the mainland, but that is another debate. I don't support torture.

[QUOTE="Chickity_China"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

How would you feel if someone killed your family? Treated them like dirt and took away their rights and then sent them to gas chambers and God knows what else? You wold want to hurt the people that did that as well.

And to the people that use the excuse "they were only following orders", those people are just as guilty and also must be brought to justice. Principles stand over orders, and they know what they were doing is wrong.

ShadowMoses900

There is no right or wrong. There is only culturally acceptable and culturally unacceptable.

This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. You don't think rape is really wrong? If society said it was ok all of a sudden you would be fine with it? People like you would never fight for change, if this was the civil rights era you would be saying "oh it's not wrong that they treat you as second class, there is no wrong" you would just go with whatever the majority said.

In our culture, rape is wrong. If society suddenly approved of rape, I would not be ok with it however. That is because as a society, we are constantly striving to be more and more civilized. There is no doubt nowadays that, for example, slavery and segregation are culturally unacceptable. But rewind a few decades or centuries and these things were the norm. Was it wrong back then to "buy" a human being and put them to work? No, but is it wrong now? Yes. That is why when it comes down to it, there is only what's culturally acceptable and unacceptable.

But it's ok, I suspect you'll come to this realization anyways once you're nuts have dropped.

Yes. But we shouldn't stop there, they all should be put to death. This goes for anyone who was involved in the Nazi party, either soldier or politican, they all must die. Modern day nazi's and skin heads can be put in the same line along with them.

I would enjoy hurting them, I really would.

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]Gitmo houses Muslims and not jews, right? P. sure that would fly for shadowmosses so it doesnt matter if Obama closes it.DroidPhysX

I don't hate muslims, stop spreading false things about me. I don't support torture either, not in Gitmo or anywhere. Though I do think suspected terrorists should be housed seperately from the mainland, but that is another debate. I don't support torture.

They are targeting people who are actually suspected as in making bombs or associating with known terrorists, they are not targeting normal civlians though there are mistakes and innocents have been detained there, which is wrong.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Chickity_China"]

There is no right or wrong. There is only culturally acceptable and culturally unacceptable.

Chickity_China

This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. You don't think rape is really wrong? If society said it was ok all of a sudden you would be fine with it? People like you would never fight for change, if this was the civil rights era you would be saying "oh it's not wrong that they treat you as second class, there is no wrong" you would just go with whatever the majority said.

In our culture, rape is wrong. If society suddenly approved of rape, I would not be ok with it however. That is because as a society, we are constantly striving to be more and more civilized. There is no doubt nowadays that, for example, slavery and segregation are culturally unacceptable. But rewind a few decades or centuries and these things were the norm. Was it wrong back then to "buy" a human being and put them to work? No, but is it wrong now? Yes. That is why when it comes down to it, there is only what's culturally acceptable and unacceptable.

But it's ok, I suspect you'll come to this realization anyways once you're nuts have dropped.

Lol I'm an adult stupid b!tch. Just because society says something is right or wrong doesn't truly make it so, true morals origionate from a higher power and it guides one to do what is truly right.

There are things that are right and things that are wrong regardless of what society wants to say, I think denying gays equal rights is wrong and yet society seems to think it's ok.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I don't hate muslims, stop spreading false things about me. I don't support torture either, not in Gitmo or anywhere. Though I do think suspected terrorists should be housed seperately from the mainland, but that is another debate. I don't support torture.

ShadowMoses900

They are targeting people who are actually suspected as in making bombs or associating with known terrorists, they are not targeting normal civlians though there are mistakes and innocents have been detained there, which is wrong.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Uhh anyone can be a "suspected" terrorist DroidPhysX

They are targeting people who are actually suspected as in making bombs or associating with known terrorists, they are not targeting normal civlians though there are mistakes and innocents have been detained there, which is wrong.

I already answered you. I said torture is wrong, but I don't see anything wrong with putting suspected or known terrorits away from the mainland. Though I wouldn't use Cuba (which they can use to get away from toruture laws as it's not on US soil) but I would use Hawaii or Alaska instead.

Though honestly, if there was a bomb about to go off in a major city and I had a terrorist in my custody and he knew the location but wouldn't tell me, I would hurt him until I got that info. I would do anything to save their lives.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

They are targeting people who are actually suspected as in making bombs or associating with known terrorists, they are not targeting normal civlians though there are mistakes and innocents have been detained there, which is wrong.

ShadowMoses900

I already answered you. I said torture is wrong, but I don't see anything wrong with putting suspected or known terrorits away from the mainland. Though I wouldn't use Cuba (which they can use to get away from toruture laws as it's not on US soil) but I would use Hawaii or Alaska instead.

Though honestly, if there was a bomb about to go off in a major city and I had a terrorist in my custody and he knew the location but wouldn't tell me, I would hurt him until I got that info. I would do anything to save their lives.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

They are targeting people who are actually suspected as in making bombs or associating with known terrorists, they are not targeting normal civlians though there are mistakes and innocents have been detained there, which is wrong.

ShadowMoses900

I already answered you. I said torture is wrong, but I don't see anything wrong with putting suspected or known terrorits away from the mainland. Though I wouldn't use Cuba (which they can use to get away from toruture laws as it's not on US soil) but I would use Hawaii or Alaska instead.

Though honestly, if there was a bomb about to go off in a major city and I had a terrorist in my custody and he knew the location but wouldn't tell me, I would hurt him until I got that info. I would do anything to save their lives.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] So is there anything wrong with GitmoDroidPhysX

I already answered you. I said torture is wrong, but I don't see anything wrong with putting suspected or known terrorits away from the mainland. Though I wouldn't use Cuba (which they can use to get away from toruture laws as it's not on US soil) but I would use Hawaii or Alaska instead.

Though honestly, if there was a bomb about to go off in a major city and I had a terrorist in my custody and he knew the location but wouldn't tell me, I would hurt him until I got that info. I would do anything to save their lives.

I like Netanyahu, but I wouldn't let him do that unless Tehran was seriously threatening Israel's security. But you are arguing a slipper sloap and a bit of a sand man, I didn't suggest that and you know it.