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#101 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] So is there anything wrong with GitmoMrPraline

I already answered you. I said torture is wrong, but I don't see anything wrong with putting suspected or known terrorits away from the mainland. Though I wouldn't use Cuba (which they can use to get away from toruture laws as it's not on US soil) but I would use Hawaii or Alaska instead.

Though honestly, if there was a bomb about to go off in a major city and I had a terrorist in my custody and he knew the location but wouldn't tell me, I would hurt him until I got that info. I would do anything to save their lives.

"Suspected terrorist". That is oh so so so so scary. Scarier is hard to imagine.

I am referring to people who make bombs or associate with actual known terrorists and terrorist groups. They are not locking up random people.

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#102 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I already answered you. I said torture is wrong, but I don't see anything wrong with putting suspected or known terrorits away from the mainland. Though I wouldn't use Cuba (which they can use to get away from toruture laws as it's not on US soil) but I would use Hawaii or Alaska instead.

Though honestly, if there was a bomb about to go off in a major city and I had a terrorist in my custody and he knew the location but wouldn't tell me, I would hurt him until I got that info. I would do anything to save their lives.

ShadowMoses900

So lets say my boy Netanyahu was about to nuke Tehran. Would you do anything to save the peoples lives?

I like Netanyahu, but I wouldn't let him do that unless Tehran was seriously threatening Israel's security. But you are arguing a slipper sloap and a bit of a sand man, I didn't suggest that and you know it.

Tehran wouldn't be threatening Israel. Iran's president would be threatening Israel. Tehran houses civilians. Millions of them.
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#103 Chickity_China
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[QUOTE="Chickity_China"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. You don't think rape is really wrong? If society said it was ok all of a sudden you would be fine with it? People like you would never fight for change, if this was the civil rights era you would be saying "oh it's not wrong that they treat you as second class, there is no wrong" you would just go with whatever the majority said.

ShadowMoses900

In our culture, rape is wrong. If society suddenly approved of rape, I would not be ok with it however. That is because as a society, we are constantly striving to be more and more civilized. There is no doubt nowadays that, for example, slavery and segregation are culturally unacceptable. But rewind a few decades or centuries and these things were the norm. Was it wrong back then to "buy" a human being and put them to work? No, but is it wrong now? Yes. That is why when it comes down to it, there is only what's culturally acceptable and unacceptable.

But it's ok, I suspect you'll come to this realization anyways once you're nuts have dropped.

Lol I'm an adult stupid b!tch. Just because society says something is right or wrong doesn't truly make it so, true morals origionate from a higher power and it guides one to do what is truly right.

There are things that are right and things that are wrong regardless of what society wants to say, I think denying gays equal rights is wrong and yet society seems to think it's ok.

So your nuts never dropped then? lol.

Ooo, higher power, you know how dumb that sounds? Who creates laws and enforces them? Goverment. What is the government for? It's for the people, BY THE PEOPLE. We, as a society, decide what is acceptable and unacceptable.

Currently, we are going through a phase in trying to figure out if denying gays marriage rights is wrong or not. That's something we have yet to work out. If gay marriage passes in all states however, then in the future, it will be wrong to try to prevent the marriage of same sex couples. Now, however, we don't know if it's right or wrong. That's why it's CONTROVERSIAL. Holy sh*t you're dumb.

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#104 MrPraline
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But you are arguing a slipper sloap and a bit of a sand manShadowMoses900
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#105 MrPraline
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Goverment. What is the government for? It's for the people, BY THE PEOPLE. Chickity_China
rofl
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#106 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="Chickity_China"]Goverment. What is the government for? It's for the people, BY THE PEOPLE. MrPraline
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#107 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] So lets say my boy Netanyahu was about to nuke Tehran. Would you do anything to save the peoples lives?DroidPhysX

I like Netanyahu, but I wouldn't let him do that unless Tehran was seriously threatening Israel's security. But you are arguing a slipper sloap and a bit of a sand man, I didn't suggest that and you know it.

Tehran wouldn't be threatening Israel. Iran's president would be threatening Israel. Tehran houses civilians. Millions of them.

I know what Tehran is, but if Iran was going to harm Israel I would support Israel to take out Iran if need be, the same way I would support the US to take them down if Iran or even Israel were going to attack us.

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#108 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I like Netanyahu, but I wouldn't let him do that unless Tehran was seriously threatening Israel's security. But you are arguing a slipper sloap and a bit of a sand man, I didn't suggest that and you know it.

ShadowMoses900

Tehran wouldn't be threatening Israel. Iran's president would be threatening Israel. Tehran houses civilians. Millions of them.

I know what Tehran is, but if Iran was going to harm Israel I would support Israel to take out Iran if need be, the same way I would support the US to take them down if Iran or even Israel were going to attack us.

So you would be OK with killing millions of civilians in Tehran?
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#109 Fightingfan
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100+ posts :3 Lets talk about religion now.
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#110 Chickity_China
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="Chickity_China"]Goverment. What is the government for? It's for the people, BY THE PEOPLE. DroidPhysX
rofl

The point is it's made up of people. Therefore, people decide what's right and wrong, not some "higher power".

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#111 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Tehran wouldn't be threatening Israel. Iran's president would be threatening Israel. Tehran houses civilians. Millions of them.DroidPhysX

I know what Tehran is, but if Iran was going to harm Israel I would support Israel to take out Iran if need be, the same way I would support the US to take them down if Iran or even Israel were going to attack us.

So you would be OK with killing millions of civilians in Tehran?

No and I never said that. Would you OK with letting millions of civilians die in Israel or the US? This is what you are doing to me.

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#112 Fightingfan
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Ahaha thread got locked Kevlar got PWNED
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#113 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I know what Tehran is, but if Iran was going to harm Israel I would support Israel to take out Iran if need be, the same way I would support the US to take them down if Iran or even Israel were going to attack us.

ShadowMoses900

So you would be OK with killing millions of civilians in Tehran?

No and I never said that. Would you OK with letting millions of civilians die in Israel or the US? This is what you are doing to me.

I know that. Hence the question mark at the end.
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So lets say my boy Netanyahu was about to nuke Tehran. Would you do anything to save the peoples lives?DroidPhysX

he's not your "boy"

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#115 Rich3232
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]So lets say my boy Netanyahu was about to nuke Tehran. Would you do anything to save the peoples lives?kingkong0124

he's not your "boy"

you shouldn't take that so seriously, kk
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]So lets say my boy Netanyahu was about to nuke Tehran. Would you do anything to save the peoples lives?kingkong0124

he's not your "boy"

Who is droid's boy?
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#117 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]So lets say my boy Netanyahu was about to nuke Tehran. Would you do anything to save the peoples lives?kingkong0124

he's not your "boy"

thank you for pointing out the obvious praise the lawd
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#118 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]So lets say my boy Netanyahu was about to nuke Tehran. Would you do anything to save the peoples lives?dave123321

he's not your "boy"

Who is droid's boy?

kk
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#119 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]So lets say my boy Netanyahu was about to nuke Tehran. Would you do anything to save the peoples lives?kingkong0124

he's not your "boy"

lol
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#120 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

he's not your "boy"

DroidPhysX

Who is droid's boy?

kk

not into that sh*t bro, nty

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#121 dave123321
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

he's not your "boy"

DroidPhysX
Who is droid's boy?

kk

Oh, so jealously/insecurity made him pounce on the comment
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#122 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="dave123321"] Who is droid's boy?dave123321
kk

Oh, so jealously/insecurity made him pounce on the comment

you should get taken to gitmo

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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] kkkingkong0124

Oh, so jealously/insecurity made him pounce on the comment

you should get taken to gitmo

Oh my
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#124 Rich3232
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] kkkingkong0124

Oh, so jealously/insecurity made him pounce on the comment

you should get taken to gitmo

ah, kk, never change.
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#125 DroidPhysX
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Dave is a true patriot tho
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="dave123321"] Oh, so jealously/insecurity made him pounce on the comment Rich3232

you should get taken to gitmo

ah, kk, never change.

are you who i think you are?

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[QUOTE="Rich3232"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

you should get taken to gitmo

kingkong0124

ah, kk, never change.

are you who i think you are?

lol
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#128 MrPraline
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remember when some guy in 2008 promised he'd close gitmo if people voted for him?
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#129 DroidPhysX
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remember when some guy in 2008 promised he'd close gitmo if people voted for him?MrPraline
Gitmo is for our security.
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#130 Rich3232
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[QUOTE="Rich3232"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

you should get taken to gitmo

kingkong0124

ah, kk, never change.

are you who i think you are?

depends
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#131 dave123321
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remember when some guy in 2008 promised he'd close gitmo if people voted for him?MrPraline
Bush the 3rd I believe
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#132 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"]remember when some guy in 2008 promised he'd close gitmo if people voted for him?dave123321
Bush the 3rd I believe

Sounds about right. Wonder if he's going to finally close it under his new Bush The Fourth nickname.
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#133 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="Rich3232"] ah, kk, never change. Rich3232

are you who i think you are?

depends

What's up Funky Llama

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#134 dave123321
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[QUOTE="Rich3232"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

are you who i think you are?

kingkong0124

depends

What's up Funky Llama

Shhh
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#135 Rich3232
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[QUOTE="Rich3232"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

are you who i think you are?

kingkong0124

depends

What's up Funky Llama

rofl. only a few more weeks until the sig and avy goes away, eh?
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="Rich3232"] dependsRich3232

What's up Funky Llama

rofl. only a few more weeks until the sig and avy goes away, eh?

I like the avatar, so i'll probably keep that. Taking away the sig though.

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#137 dave123321
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lol
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#138 Goyoshi12
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I'd say no...the past is in the past, let bygones be bygones (as incredibly hard as it may be). I mean, hell, maybe some of them have realized the wrongs and horros that they not only caused to others but to their families and friends and perhaps have renounced their ways and are trying to be good Samaritans to society. Of course if they haven't and are still do things behind people's backs such as planning an attack on someone then perhaps you should keep an eye out for them until the act is commited.

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#139 radicalcentrist
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Not everyone who served in the Wehrmacht was a nazi, and members of the SS were all volunteers.

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#140 PernicioEnigma
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Being a Nazi wasn't/isn't a crime. I just thought I'd remind people of that...
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#141 Lu-Kang
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not every German in their military during world war 2 was a Nazi...

Cloud_Insurance
Exactly some of them were fighting for their country or just forced to fight.
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#142 thebest31406
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]I would enjoy hurting them, I really would.chessmaster1989
You have some serious issues dude. :|

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#143 Allthishate
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Yes. But we shouldn't stop there, they all should be put to death. This goes for anyone who was involved in the Nazi party, either soldier or politican, they all must die. Modern day nazi's and skin heads can be put in the same line along with them.

I would enjoy hurting them, I really would.

ShadowMoses900
religion of peace ?
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#144 chaplainDMK
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[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"]

not every German in their military during world war 2 was a Nazi...

Fightingfan

Explain? My understanding is if you where a solider between the reign of the third Reich 1933-1945 you were part of the Wehrmacht; which is Nazi military.

Hitler is your commander in chief/Patron, meaning you obey his commands similar to today's president, though presidents can't wage war, that's congress so probably bad example.

Wermach wasn't "nazi military". The SS was the military branch of the Nazi party. The Wermacht was the combined military force of the German nation. So no, the soldiers werent always Nazis, infact quite a few were just ordinary people who were quite indifferant to the Nazi ideology. That's like saying every soldier in the US Army today is a Democrat because Obama is a Democrat.
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Atheist goons never stop trolling on religion
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#146 Rattlesnake_8
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Most of them were soldiers who had nothing to do with mass murder, war crimes etc.. many were young boys that were brainwashed since birth and had no choice as they knew no other way. If they are old men who can barely take care of themselves then there is no point putting them to death.. they have had to live with what they were part of for their entire lives as it is.
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I don't see what good would come from imprisoning/killing some old men.
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#148 Darkman2007
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if that was done, then a whole bunch of elderly German and others would go on trial , it would be pointless, unless somebody was found to have been particularly cruel.

if I go by feelings alone, those people would have gotten thrown from the rooftops, but thinking logically, I would simply let them die

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if that was done, then a whole bunch of elderly German and others would go on trial , it would be pointless, unless somebody was found to have been particularly cruel.

if I go by feelings alone, those people would have gotten thrown from the rooftops, but thinking logically, I would simply let them die

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Being a German soldier in WW2 does NOT mean one committed war crimes.:|
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#150 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

if that was done, then a whole bunch of elderly German and others would go on trial , it would be pointless, unless somebody was found to have been particularly cruel.

if I go by feelings alone, those people would have gotten thrown from the rooftops, but thinking logically, I would simply let them die

LJS9502_basic
Being a German soldier in WW2 does NOT mean one committed war crimes.:|

oh I know , but even if you took those people out, you would still end up with quite a few people (although obviously less and less as time goes on) its also why I said "and others" , due to collaborations and such.