shouldnt school be optional?

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Here in CA school is optional from age 13+.

lightleggy

No it shouldn't be, cause at this age you don't know what is better for youSQUALL20XX

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="lightleggy"] excuse me, english is not my main language, spanish is, in spanish we dont use the word "billions" we just use "millions", 6k millions of people. and I love how you completly avoid everything I said by saying something like I take fact and numbers out of nowhere...ignore my grammar mistakes and try to debate my points ok? because what you are doing is just the equivalent of saying "ok you pwned me I dont know how to answer so im just going to attack something else and completly evade everything else you said"lightleggy

I agree with "a discussion requires intelligence from both parts" so right now, im not discussing, im pwning you and you just proved that by completly ignoring what I said above and reposting the same thing you said :lol: keep in your way good sir, and good luck when you turn 18 years old and realize that the career you wanted to study is really not that good and that you should have had more options. seriously, people pretending to be einstein around the internet just fail so hard

Sir, you claimed there were 6 Trillion people on this earth. That is not true. Upon being told this you retracted your statement with an excuse. This is a classic move by people who have no idea what they're talking about. You're unable to provide accurate numbers, and you've proven this. As such any further discussion i have with you will leave me questioning every single number/fact you provide. You're unable to provide valid points, and retract statements upon them being proven untrue. Because of this any further discussion with you would ultimately end up with me in a constant state of facepalm while i correct everything you say to make it truthful and accurate to the real world. This is not the correct way to have an intelligent discussion, and so i'll go elsewhere to find someone intelligent to have such a discussion with.Nibroc420

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I'm not going to debate someone who wildly throws numbers around and makes untrue statements. Intelligent discussions require valid points on both sides, you've shown the inability to provide accurate numbers, and claim untrue things as fact. As such there's no sense in having a discussion with you.Nibroc420

I agree with "a discussion requires intelligence from both parts" so right now, im not discussing, im pwning you and you just proved that by completly ignoring what I said above and reposting the same thing you said :lol: keep in your way good sir, and good luck when you turn 18 years old and realize that the career you wanted to study is really not that good and that you should have had more options. seriously, people pretending to be einstein around the internet just fail so hard

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]
I'm here for ya babe, whatcha wanna talk about?

Baconbits2004

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Sir, you claimed there were 6 Trillion people on this earth. That is not true. Upon being told this you retracted your statement with an excuse. This is a ****c move by people who have no idea what they're talking about. You're unable to provide accurate numbers, and you've proven this. As such any further discussion i have with you will leave me questioning every single number/fact you provide. You're unable to provide valid points, and retract statements upon them being proven untrue. Because of this any further discussion with you would ultimately end up with me in a constant state of facepalm while i correct everything you say to make it truthful and accurate to the real world. This is not the correct way to have an intelligent discussion, and so i'll go elsewhere to find someone intelligent to have such a discussion with.Baconbits2004

he wont answer anymore, we are not at his level :p

he wont answer anymore, we are not at his level :p

lightleggy

If you'd like to discuss the imaginary, go ahead.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]also...people who dont go to highschool are most likely to have lower social skills and have less developed cognition and even motor skills...gamerguru100

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]he wont answer anymore, we are not at his level :p

Nibroc420

If you'd like to discuss the imaginary, go ahead.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]he wont answer anymore, we are not at his level :p

lightleggy

If you'd like to discuss the imaginary, go ahead.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I'm not going to debate someone who wildly throws numbers around and makes untrue statements. Intelligent discussions require valid points on both sides, you've shown the inability to provide accurate numbers, and claim untrue things as fact. As such there's no sense in having a discussion with you.Nibroc420

I agree with "a discussion requires intelligence from both parts" so right now, im not discussing, im pwning you and you just proved that by completly ignoring what I said above and reposting the same thing you said :lol: keep in your way good sir, and good luck when you turn 18 years old and realize that the career you wanted to study is really not that good and that you should have had more options. seriously, people pretending to be einstein around the internet just fail so hard

"This is a classic move by people who have no idea what they're talking about." You know what else is? Criticising a flaw in someone's post rather than dealing with the actual topic of debate.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Alright, lets discuss how Jesus has moon parties every day on the moon, and the 9 trillion people on earth were invited, but obama wont make spaceships to fly us all up there. So he's going by himself. Not much of a party if you ask me.

If you'd like to discuss the imaginary, go ahead.

Nibroc420

yup, you keep on doing that :) enjoy. seriously if you think I didnt know what you are trying to do since you started... :lol:

pwning people in the internet is priceless

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="lightleggy"]

I agree with "a discussion requires intelligence from both parts" so right now, im not discussing, im pwning you and you just proved that by completly ignoring what I said above and reposting the same thing you said :lol: keep in your way good sir, and good luck when you turn 18 years old and realize that the career you wanted to study is really not that good and that you should have had more options. seriously, people pretending to be einstein around the internet just fail so hard

PS2_ROCKS

"This is a classic move by people who have no idea what they're talking about." You know what else is? Criticising a flaw in someone's post rather than dealing with the actual topic of debate.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="lightleggy"]

I agree with "a discussion requires intelligence from both parts" so right now, im not discussing, im pwning you and you just proved that by completly ignoring what I said above and reposting the same thing you said :lol: keep in your way good sir, and good luck when you turn 18 years old and realize that the career you wanted to study is really not that good and that you should have had more options. seriously, people pretending to be einstein around the internet just fail so hard

PS2_ROCKS

"This is a classic move by people who have no idea what they're talking about." You know what else is? Criticising a flaw in someone's post rather than dealing with the actual topic of debate.

Shouldnt school be optional? I dont think high school should be mandatory to go to. People who dont see going to college in their future shouldnt have to go through high school.

There would be more money and resources to spend on the people who do stay. I think people who dont go to college dont need to learn past what you can learn in 4th or 5th grade.

I guess in a way high school isnt mandatory since you can homeschool.

slipknot0129

high school isn't mandatory once you reach 16.

[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Sir, you claimed there were 6 Trillion people on this earth. That is not true. Upon being told this you retracted your statement with an excuse. This is a classic move by people who have no idea what they're talking about. You're unable to provide accurate numbers, and you've proven this. As such any further discussion i have with you will leave me questioning every single number/fact you provide. You're unable to provide valid points, and retract statements upon them being proven untrue. Because of this any further discussion with you would ultimately end up with me in a constant state of facepalm while i correct everything you say to make it truthful and accurate to the real world. This is not the correct way to have an intelligent discussion, and so i'll go elsewhere to find someone intelligent to have such a discussion with.Nibroc420

"This is a classic move by people who have no idea what they're talking about." You know what else is? Criticising a flaw in someone's post rather than dealing with the actual topic of debate.

If your point really was better than his, you could have defeated it by now, but you're just harping on a number he gave. Why?

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]

"This is a classic move by people who have no idea what they're talking about." You know what else is? Criticising a flaw in someone's post rather than dealing with the actual topic of debate.

BuryMe

If your point really was better than his, you could have defeated it by now, but you're just harping on a number he gave. Why?

[QUOTE="Agent-Zero"]1. Kids are too young to make the decision regarding such an important matter. 2. People are dumb enough with school; imagine without 3. You still have to learn in homeschool.slipknot0129

Thats a bunch of crap, from being homeschooled for half of my schooling, i learned and had alot more work than i ever did in the poor excuse of a school system the us has.

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] There's no sense in debating with someone who uses Untrue "facts" and numbers to support their claims. If someone's claim is based on numbers that aren't accurate, and "facts" that aren't true, then they have no valid claim, and there is nothing to discuss.Nibroc420

If your point really was better than his, you could have defeated it by now, but you're just harping on a number he gave. Why?

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="BuryMe"]So English isn't his first language and he made a little mistake with translation... Who cares?

If your point really was better than his, you could have defeated it by now, but you're just harping on a number he gave. Why?

Mafiree

[QUOTE="Mafiree"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Haha i'm done in this thread. You can't have an intelligent discussion with people who's reasoning is based on things that aren't true. You can't say one thing, and go "oh i actually ment this other thing". Understand a point before using it in a discussion is key. He can't understand this. I wont have a discussion with someone whos "facts" are lies, and who's numbers aren't true. Discussions rely on truth, understanding, and reason on both parts. The minute someone bases their argument on something that's not true, i'll come to the conclusion that they don't actually know the truth or they'd say that. In this case he claimed there 9 trillion people on the earth, there isn't, as such i don't know what else he's saying isn't true, and there's no reason to continue the discussion. If you want to have intellectual discussions with people who's stance is based on lies and incorrect figures, go ahead, i prefer to save myself the frustration.Nibroc420

[QUOTE="Agent-Zero"]1. Kids are too young to make the decision regarding such an important matter. 2. People are dumb enough with school; imagine without 3. You still have to learn in homeschool.slipknot0129

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="Agent-Zero"]1. Kids are too young to make the decision regarding such an important matter. 2. People are dumb enough with school; imagine without 3. You still have to learn in homeschool.TacticalDesire

[QUOTE="Mafiree"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Haha i'm done in this thread. You can't have an intelligent discussion with people who's reasoning is based on things that aren't true. You can't say one thing, and go "oh i actually ment this other thing". Understand a point before using it in a discussion is key. He can't understand this. I wont have a discussion with someone whos "facts" are lies, and who's numbers aren't true. Discussions rely on truth, understanding, and reason on both parts. The minute someone bases their argument on something that's not true, i'll come to the conclusion that they don't actually know the truth or they'd say that. In this case he claimed there 9 trillion people on the earth, there isn't, as such i don't know what else he's saying isn't true, and there's no reason to continue the discussion. If you want to have intellectual discussions with people who's stance is based on lies and incorrect figures, go ahead, i prefer to save myself the frustration.Nibroc420

In many languages, saying 6000 million would be perfectly acceptable. So he was thinking in one language, but accidentally confused it with enligh terminology while he was typing, hence why he wrote 6k billion.

And I stand by what said. If his argument was really as flawed as you seemed to think it was earlier on, you could have still destroyed his point by now. But instead, you insisted on focusing on what's really a minor mistake he made in his post.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="Mafiree"] It was actually 6 trillion. Base your arguments of facts next time please.BuryMe

In many languages, saying 6000 million would be perfectly acceptable. So he was thinking in one language, but accidentally confused it with enligh terminology while he was typing, hence why he wrote 6k billion.

And I stand by what said. If his argument was really as flawed as you seemed to think it was earlier on, you could have still destroyed his point by now. But instead, you insisted on focusing on what's really a minor mistake he made in his post.

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]You dont have to learn in homeschool. Homeschool just means your parents are in full responsibility of your education.

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"] Actually yeah you do, they're tests/evaluations etc.TacticalDesire

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Oh I'm sorry English must be my second language, as such i can't tell the difference between the two, please forgive me :roll:

Nibroc420

In many languages, saying 6000 million would be perfectly acceptable. So he was thinking in one language, but accidentally confused it with enligh terminology while he was typing, hence why he wrote 6k billion.

And I stand by what said. If his argument was really as flawed as you seemed to think it was earlier on, you could have still destroyed his point by now. But instead, you insisted on focusing on what's really a minor mistake he made in his post.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="BuryMe"]Why is it so hard to believe that it realy was just a basic language problem?

In many languages, saying 6000 million would be perfectly acceptable. So he was thinking in one language, but accidentally confused it with enligh terminology while he was typing, hence why he wrote 6k billion.

And I stand by what said. If his argument was really as flawed as you seemed to think it was earlier on, you could have still destroyed his point by now. But instead, you insisted on focusing on what's really a minor mistake he made in his post.

TacticalDesire

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Oh I'm sorry English must be my second language, as such i can't tell the difference between the two, please forgive me :roll:

Nibroc420

In many languages, saying 6000 million would be perfectly acceptable. So he was thinking in one language, but accidentally confused it with enligh terminology while he was typing, hence why he wrote 6k billion.

And I stand by what said. If his argument was really as flawed as you seemed to think it was earlier on, you could have still destroyed his point by now. But instead, you insisted on focusing on what's really a minor mistake he made in his post.

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I see no point, anyone who posts flawed arguments isn't worth arguing with. I'd prefer not to waste my time.Nibroc420

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="BuryMe"]Why is it so hard to believe that it realy was just a basic language problem?

In many languages, saying 6000 million would be perfectly acceptable. So he was thinking in one language, but accidentally confused it with enligh terminology while he was typing, hence why he wrote 6k billion.

And I stand by what said. If his argument was really as flawed as you seemed to think it was earlier on, you could have still destroyed his point by now. But instead, you insisted on focusing on what's really a minor mistake he made in his post.

BuryMe

the guy just wants to mess with the whole forum, he knows I crushed him and since he didnt had anything good to say he just attacked the numbers thing and kept on saying it...if you look at his post...they are pretty much the same, he always said the same, all of them after the numbers thing were the "you claimed this, innacurate numbers, no worth arguing, blablabla" and repeated that until his last post.

and even when you use his own logic against him, for example when I told him that the unnacurate facts thing also applies to him, he just avoided that and continued to talk about the numbers :lol:

Absolutely not. Like it or not, education is an essential component of keeping our complex society operational. Young people will too often make a poor decision to leave school early, and as much as people like to trumpet the few examples of individuals who drop out and still accomplish wonderful things in life, most of these people end up being abject failures. Children and teenagers can not be reasonably expected to always make decisions which are in their best interests, and so it would be irresponsible on the part of adults to give them the choice not to work until they're a bit older - old enough to understand the value of their education.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"] Wouldn't no wasting your time have been simply not responding at all to his error and certainly not responding to all his other posts?lightleggy

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Agreed, however i didn't choose that route. I found the route most fun and took that one. BTW if anyone wants to discuss a Moon-Party with Jesus and the supposed 6 trillion inhabitants of the earth I'm all ears.

Nibroc420

invalid excuse, your argument is invalid

Absolutely not. Like it or not, education is an essential component of keeping our complex society operational. Young people will too often make a poor decision to leave school early, and as much as people like to trumpet the few examples of individuals who drop out and still accomplish wonderful things in life, most of these people end up being abject failures. Children and teenagers can not be reasonably expected to always make decisions which are in their best interests, and so it would be irresponsible on the part of adults to give them the choice not to work until they're a bit older - old enough to understand the value of their education.

pianist

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="lightleggy"] funny thing, you have been saying for like 10 post that it was 9 trillions, now you say 6? you know some smart guy once told me not to argue with someone who presents innacurate numbers :plightleggy

invalid excuse, your argument is invalid

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] i said it once :P and i lost track of the number you had originally used.Nibroc420

invalid excuse, your argument is invalid

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="lightleggy"]

invalid excuse, your argument is invalid

lightleggy

No but it kinda is...ever heard of a GED?MgamerBD

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Noo, Nooo, Cause i Believe it's real it is (classic religious defence)Nibroc420

School (public or home schooled) should be mandatory until one is 18 period. Still, there are uneducated individuals who have graduated and have moved on to college and are just as uneducated 4 years later. Children cannot make reliable and well informed decisions (and courts have continually backed this up by not charging kids with felony murder when they had committed such) or be aware of what said decision means. Also, I do not want to support those who couldn't stay in school due to their inability to get a job. We have enough people on welfare here in the US as it is, we do not need more on said welfare rolls.