Since we all love to hate Muslims...

...I thought it was high time to actually depict the opposite. A number of topics have arisen lately which depict fear, ignorance, and oidum from both sides but I predominately get the image that OT condemns those that speak out against Islam and what not with the term "bigot" falling quite a bit in each and every one of these ever so lovely threads. Let's observe something positive about the West for once, shall we?

Check this ****, dawg.

You will notice quite a number of nations having donated an enormous amount of food and money to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, a country thought of as harboring and training militant groups by some. It is also the second most populous Muslim country right after Indonesia and is a developing country to boot. It is the only Muslim-majority state that possesses nuclear weapons. Doesn't sound like much of a precendent to donate, right? That didn't stop the EU, the US, and other Western countries as well as non-Muslim countries from donating hundreds of millions of euros and dollars and pounds worth of food and money and they aren't done yet. All this even with the effects of the recession still being felt.

I believe it is high time that we have a thread about some good news involving these parties. I am getting rather sick of the hysteria that has developed here in OT. People like talking about how crap the other is but when **** hits the fan, such as a natural disaster threatening millions, we come together.

I don't hate Muslims.

I hate what a select few of them did to our country and the groups of people that endorse it back in their country, but I don't hate the people as a whole.

I view them much like I do most of the people in the US: blinded by religious zeal that hearkens back to the days of the crusades.

I don't hate Muslims.

I hate what a select few of them did to our country and the groups of people that endorse it back in their country, but I don't hate the people as a whole.

I view them much like I do most of the people in the US: blinded by religious zeal that hearkens back to the days of the crusades.

starfox15

Personally I see the US and Muslimsas innocent victims. Both peoples are actually very insular. How much do Americans know about other countries? they dont even care.

External factors has played a significant and tragic role in putting the two sides against each other.

A bit preachy, but I get your point. Either way, I take OT with a grain of salt. If these people were face to face, I'm sure most would be singing a different tune when it comes to all the hate.

Well Pakistan IS an ally of USA in fighting terrorism, but still they did contribute significantly.krazy-blazer

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"]Well Pakistan IS an ally of USA in fighting terrorism, but still they did contribute significantly.herpderp9000

So majwill24, Europe is defined by rampant and overt racism, right? Bit inappropriate of us to send supplies and financial aid to help people we are so racist against. Meh.

[QUOTE="herpderp9000"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"]Well Pakistan IS an ally of USA in fighting terrorism, but still they did contribute significantly.krazy-blazer

I view them much like I do most of the people in the US: blinded by religious zeal that hearkens back to the days of the crusades.

starfox15

Oh yeah, because it's totally comparable. Just the other day, me and a bunch of my Christian zealot buddies were talking about how disgraceful it was that we hadn't yet taken back Jerusalem.

Oh, and Istanbul. Me and my Christian zealot buddies want to go back to Constantinople, but now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople.

Always amusing to see how bad news involving a few hateful minorities gets more attention than good news involving entire nations.

Nice to see a positive post - hopefully it doesn't get lost in a 'mine gave more than yours' playround bicker.

All wars are fake. Just like 9/11, the Holocaust, and every presidential election in which a Republican wins. Amirite?:roll:

All wars are fake. Just like 9/11, the Holocaust, and every presidential election in which a Republican wins. Amirite?:roll:

Metal_Mario99

I was being sarcastickrazy-blazer

So was I.

[QUOTE="lamprey263"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] Doing nothing? There is a bloody war going on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_North-West_Pakistankrazy-blazer

A bit preachy, but I get your point. Either way, I take OT with a grain of salt. If these people were face to face, I'm sure most would be singing a different tune when it comes to all the hate.

jubino

Back to the topic, yeah I agree with you.

Good thing to see a few Brits hating on Muslims get a bunch of attention but numerous Western nations helping the Islamic Republic of Pakistan with food and supplies get next to none. I guess it doesn't suit many to generalise a majority as good as opposed to generalising a minority as bad.

Mulsims or christians, whoever goes about killing innocent people has no sympathy from me. That's why I make no real distinction between the so called terrorists and US armed forces. But there are muslims and christians who go about minding their own business and living their lives as best as they can, I can relate and respect them.kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Mulsims or christians, whoever goes about killing innocent people has no sympathy from me. That's why I make no real distinction between the so called terrorists and US armed forces. But there are muslims and christians who go about minding their own business and living their lives as best as they can, I can relate and respect them.Hexagon_777

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]Mulsims or christians, whoever goes about killing innocent people has no sympathy from me. That's why I make no real distinction between the so called terrorists and US armed forces. But there are muslims and christians who go about minding their own business and living their lives as best as they can, I can relate and respect them.kuraimen

I don't hate Muslims. I hate the extremest ones though.

Its true the natural disaster in Pakistan doesn't get enough press, but I think part of reason is also that there are enoughdisasters happening far closer to home for people to care

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"][QUOTE="herpderp9000"] hm well there's actually a debate about that. Weather they are covertly helping the Taliban and other terrorists against the US and India.herpderp9000

Its true the natural disaster in Pakistan doesn't get enough press, but I think part of reason is also that there are enoughdisasters happening far closer to home for people to care

ariz3260

[QUOTE="ariz3260"]

Its true the natural disaster in Pakistan doesn't get enough press, but I think part of reason is also that there are enoughdisasters happening far closer to home for people to care

grape_of_wrath

The world is full of self centered somewhat racist apathetic people who just don't think about it.

I find the judging an entire population based on the actions of a select few to be an incredibly naive and ignorant act. It makes me sick that people are so quick to hate Muslims, despite most of them knowing nothing about the religion, nor the community of whom the majority represents.

Its no help of the media making them out to be evil monsters.

[QUOTE="ariz3260"]Its true the natural disaster in Pakistan doesn't get enough press, but I think part of reason is also that there are enoughdisasters happening far closer to home for people to caregrape_of_wrath

[QUOTE="ariz3260"]

Its true the natural disaster in Pakistan doesn't get enough press, but I think part of reason is also that there are enoughdisasters happening far closer to home for people to care

grape_of_wrath

I honestly haven't seen too much coverage of how bad things are in Pakistan, heck I see even more press for the miners being trapped underground over at Chile. I'm not saying it is not news worthy, far from it. I am saying people just don't care as much about it as we do with other news, albeit the news we choose tocare about do not measure up to the Pakistan natural disaster in terms of magnitude

I don't hate them, I just think their religion is a bit much.metallica_fan42

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"][QUOTE="ariz3260"]Its true the natural disaster in Pakistan doesn't get enough press, but I think part of reason is also that there are enoughdisasters happening far closer to home for people to careHexagon_777

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"] Like what? how does anything come near the magnitude of the disaster in pakistan?Pakistan ,just, isn't perceived as a worthy cause...(for different reasons) From what I gather -it can stand,scale-wise, shoulder to shoulder with the haiti crisis and the 2004 tsunami...-the global community found time to invest in those.grape_of_wrath

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"][QUOTE="ariz3260"]

Its true the natural disaster in Pakistan doesn't get enough press, but I think part of reason is also that there are enoughdisasters happening far closer to home for people to care

I honestly haven't seen too much coverage of how bad things are in Pakistan, heck I see even more press for the miners being trapped underground over at Chile. I'm not saying it is not news worthy, far from it. I am saying people just don't care as much about it as we do with other news, albeit the news we choose tocare about do not measure up to the Pakistan natural disaster in terms of magnitude

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Excuse you? Have you read any of my posts in this thread? The global community is investing.Hexagon_777

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"] Not enough. Not nearly as much money,aid and ,mostly, media attention, have gone into the pakistani ordeal as the other two examples I have listed.and for exactly the same reasons you,yourself, listed in your OP. Pakistan isn't fashionable-It's corrupt ,it is one of the main global habitats of radical Islam...etc. Pakistan can't attract hollywood superstars or make Joe smith from kentucky send out a check for a 100$ by airmail.and the situation generates zero public pressure to generate more aid from world governments.grape_of_wrath

You are rite TC. We should not be donating to pakistan. let them be

Doesn't seem to be the case here and the EU isn't even doing as much as the US as far as I am aware. Hundreds of millions of euros and dollars and pounds as well as food have been sent over. Pakistan has not been ignored.Hexagon_777

You are rite TC. We should not be donating to pakistan. let them be

GrabTheYayo

That's exactly my point-Chile generates much more attention and sympathy because Pakistan has the(public-not diplomatic) reputation of a leper...Which really isn't fair on the people of pakistan(cliche as I may sound right now...).grape_of_wrath

Mine as well, we are actually in agreement.

To take it even further, we have more threads about Justin Bieber than Pakistan that I can see, probably about 5 to 1...

Really, what does that say about us, and what the media choose to let us see?...