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#51 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Doesn't seem to be the case here and the EU isn't even doing as much as the US as far as I am aware. Hundreds of millions of euros and dollars and pounds as well as food have been sent over. Pakistan has not been ignored.grape_of_wrath
Okay...

1)When the haiti earthquake struck-there was a stickied thread in OT dedicated to donations by GS members.

2)When the haiti iearthquake struck celebrities worldwide lobbied heavily for the Haiti-aid campaign-I want to see Oprah go on screen as part of the 'Pakistan world-aid campaign'.

3)When the haiti earthquake struck there was not much else on the news besides it for days and weeks.

I would go on-but i'm not sure you even disagree about the Haiti-pakistan balance in those regards.I'm also very much unaware of the size of the aid offered to pakistan(which is unusual for me-since I usually steer clear of debates where I don't have all the facts) so if you could provide a source it would be nice.I'm also not suggesting pakistan was completely ignored-but the aid discussed,certainly, hasn't been the result of international pressure or interest (and i'm pretty sure isn't up to par with the amount of aid offered to haiti). Pakistan is just blessed at being a ,relative, global power-and those tend to have binding diplomatic connections...

The source is in the very first post.

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#52 CommanderShiro
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Hate on Muslims as a whole is riduclous. A small minority of extremists does not represent the entire group. Several of my friends are Muslim and I know I love them.

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#53 Hexagon_777
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Hate on Muslims as a whole is riduclous. A small minority of extremists does not represent the entire group. Several of my friends are Muslim and I know I love them.CommanderShiro
This thread isn't about defending Muslims, but about defending Westerners. A small minority of ignoramuses does not represent the entire group.

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#54 CommanderShiro
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[QUOTE="CommanderShiro"]Hate on Muslims as a whole is riduclous. A small minority of extremists does not represent the entire group. Several of my friends are Muslim and I know I love them.Hexagon_777

This thread isn't about defending Muslims, but about defending Westerners. A small minority of ignoramuses does not represent the entire group.

Aware of that, but still there are too many Westerners out there that still don't understand.

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#55 CannedWorms
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[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"]That's exactly my point-Chile generates much more attention and sympathy because Pakistan has the(public-not diplomatic) reputation of a leper...Which really isn't fair on the people of pakistan(cliche as I may sound right now...).ariz3260

Mine as well, we are actually in agreement.

To take it even further, we have more threads about Justin Bieber than Pakistan that I can see, probably about 5 to 1...

Really, what does that say about us, and what the media choose to let us see?...

Did you really expect a flood to generate more interest on OT than Justin Bieber? It says that OT is a forum for lulz (although I am not involved in said lulz), and not to shed tears about people who we will never see personally.
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#56 CannedWorms
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Aware of that, but still there are too many Westerners out there that still don't understand.CommanderShiro
I'll start to understand when my Muslim neighbours come out of their shell and tell me personally about their religion:).

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#57 CommanderShiro
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[QUOTE="CommanderShiro"]Aware of that, but still there are too many Westerners out there that still don't understand.CannedWorms

I'll start to understand when my Muslim neighbours come out of their shell and tell me personally about their religion:).

*looks at avatar* I don't see that conflict ever being solved sadly. I hope it does one day.

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#58 CannedWorms
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*looks at avatar* I don't see that conflict ever being solved sadly. I hope it does one day.

CommanderShiro

Fingers crossed!

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#59 Symphonycometh
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A bit preachy, but I get your point. Either way, I take OT with a grain of salt. If these people were face to face, I'm sure most would be singing a different tune when it comes to all the hate.

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Agreed. Much of OT are pretty much cowards. =) (Yes, I can afford to say that in their faces. lol)
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#60 Metal_Mario99
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="CommanderShiro"]Hate on Muslims as a whole is riduclous. A small minority of extremists does not represent the entire group. Several of my friends are Muslim and I know I love them.CommanderShiro

This thread isn't about defending Muslims, but about defending Westerners. A small minority of ignoramuses does not represent the entire group.

Aware of that, but still there are too many Westerners out there that still don't understand.

There are plenty of Muslims who don't understand a number of things.

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#61 GazaAli
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I like the end of your post :)
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#62 CannedWorms
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There are plenty of Muslims who don't understand a number of things.

Metal_Mario99

But noo we are teh evilz and deserve to rot in hell:cry:.

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#63 GazaAli
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[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]There are plenty of Muslims who don't understand a number of things.

CannedWorms

But noo we are teh evilz and deserve to rot in hell:cry:.

two wrongs do not make right guys, just saying.
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#64 Metal_Mario99
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That's right, we're the Great Satan. We don't stone people to death, or behead rape victims, or strap bombs to our children and send them into crowded restaurants to blow themselves up. But we are bigots because we don't believe a mosque should be built at Ground Zero, so yeah, I guess that's reason enough for us to have to be schooled in tolerance by Islamic extremists.

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#65 CannedWorms
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two wrongs do not make right guys, just saying.GazaAli
Point noted:).

Edit: GameSpot WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF...

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#67 CannedWorms
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That's right, we're the Great Satan. We don't stone people to death, or behead rape victims, or strap bombs to our children and send them into crowded restaurants to blow themselves up. But we are bigots because we don't believe a mosque should be built at Ground Zero, so yeah, I guess that's reason enough for us to have to be schooled in tolerance by Islamic extremists.

Metal_Mario99
Don't forget I am a bigot because I live in a country that is overtaken by Muslims that was a minority not to long ago.
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#68 GazaAli
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"]two wrongs do not make right guys, just saying.CannedWorms

Point noted:).

Edit: GameSpot WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF...

:lol: what is the last of your post about?
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#69 CannedWorms
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#70 CannedWorms
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"] :lol: what is the last of your post about?

Quotes are messing up and I have to keep editing:x.
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#71 SgtKevali
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A lot of the hate against Muslims isn't even that overt. I doubt a lot of those people realize how bigoted they are deep down.

Denying aid would be overtly wrong, and they don't dislike Muslims THAT much. They realize that that would be inhumane.

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#72 Metal_Mario99
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A lot of the hate against Muslims isn't even that overt. I doubt a lot of those people realize how bigoted they are deep down.

Denying aid would be overtly wrong, and they don't dislike Muslims THAT much. They realize that that would be inhumane.

SgtKevali

As opposed to Muslims' hate against the rest of the world, which is completely and unashamedly overt.

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#73 CannedWorms
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The UK donated £75 million. Turkey (the wealthiest Muslim country I believe) donated £6 million. Thoughts?

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#75 mrbojangles25
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I do not hate Muslims, you smartass :P

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#76 GazaAli
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The UK donated £75 million. Turkey (the wealthiest Muslim country I believe) donated £6 million. Thoughts?

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Turkey is **** compared to UK's economy. Thats my thought.
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#77 CannedWorms
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[QUOTE="CannedWorms"]

The UK donated £75 million. Turkey (the wealthiest Muslim country I believe) donated £6 million. Thoughts?

GazaAli
Turkey is **** compared to UK's economy. Thats my thought.

True, but it's still a big gap.
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#78 gaming25
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That's right, we're the Great Satan. We don't stone people to death, or behead rape victims, or strap bombs to our children and send them into crowded restaurants to blow themselves up. But we are bigots because we don't believe a mosque should be built at Ground Zero, so yeah, I guess that's reason enough for us to have to be schooled in tolerance by Islamic extremists.

Metal_Mario99
First of all its a cultural center, get your facts right. Secondly, we are the most powerful nation since ancient rome, so of course we should be held to a much higher standard since we have the resources to do so.
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#79 Metal_Mario99
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First of all its a cultural center, get your facts right.gaming25

If it's just a cultural center, then it's not protected as a house of worship and we have absolutely no reason to let them build it at all.

Thanks for making everything easier.

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#80 gaming25
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[QUOTE="gaming25"]

First of all its a cultural center, get your facts right.Metal_Mario99

If it's just a cultural center, then it's not protected as a house of worship and we have absolutely no reason to let them build it at all.

Thanks for making everything easier.

Um, I dont know if you noticed, but we have a right to build whatever we want anywhere here in the US.
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#81 Jak-25
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It's not fair that people blame the whole religion of Islam for the actions of a small group. The majority of Muslim are peaceful so to put the blame on all Muslims is unjust. It surprises me to see so many ignorance these days to be honest.

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#82 Metal_Mario99
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[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"]

First of all its a cultural center, get your facts right.gaming25

If it's just a cultural center, then it's not protected as a house of worship and we have absolutely no reason to let them build it at all.

Thanks for making everything easier.

Um, I dont know if you noticed, but we have a right to build whatever we want anywhere here in the US.

Really? Since when? Because if that's really true, then I'm going to build a strip club on my front lawn.

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[QUOTE="gaming25"]

First of all its a cultural center, get your facts right.Metal_Mario99

If it's just a cultural center, then it's not protected as a house of worship and we have absolutely no reason to let them build it at all.

Thanks for making everything easier.

Ah, no, they did clear all the zoning laws and the licenses. Everything about the cultural center is legal by all means. So they can goddamn well build the mosque there, and we can't (and shouldn't) do anything to stop them.

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#84 krazy-blazer
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="CannedWorms"]

The UK donated £75 million. Turkey (the wealthiest Muslim country I believe) donated £6 million. Thoughts?

CannedWorms
Turkey is **** compared to UK's economy. Thats my thought.

True, but it's still a big gap.

Well Saudi Arabia's economy is much smaller then UK's but look how much they're donating: "Saudi Arabia released a statement announcing the establishment of an air-bridge to ferry relief-supplies to Pakistan. In total Saudi Arabia has allocated $112.3 million. Two 100-bed mobile hospitals were also donated by the Saudi Government to the flood victims"
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#85 krazy-blazer
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

If it's just a cultural center, then it's not protected as a house of worship and we have absolutely no reason to let them build it at all.

Thanks for making everything easier.

Metal_Mario99

Um, I dont know if you noticed, but we have a right to build whatever we want anywhere here in the US.

Really? Since when? Because if that's really true, then I'm going to build a strip club on my front lawn.

I don't know about that, but since they bought the property they have the right to build what the hell they want to if it doesn't break any laws.
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#86 VendettaRed07
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Im beginning to hate muslims for the same reason I hate justin beiber and twilight.. People wont stfu about them...whether they are hating them or defending them its really getting tiresome.. How many times can we have the same freaking argument.. Hey everyone not all muslims are terrorists!!.. then 99% of people are like yes we know.. and then that 1% is like NO THEY IZ BAD FOR AMERICA BLABLAABL... And then all the Muslim defenders wont shut up about this tiny ignorant percent of people that said something stupid

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#87 gaming25
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Im beginning to hate muslims for the same reason I hate justin beiber and twilight.. People wont stfu about them...whether they are hating them or defending them its really getting tiresome.. How many times can we have the same freaking argument.. Hey everyone not all muslims are terrorists!!.. then 99% of people are like yes we know.. and then that 1% is like NO THEY IZ BAD FOR AMERICA BLABLAABL... And then all the Muslim defenders wont shut up about this tiny ignorant percent of people that said something stupid

VendettaRed07
Do you really think that people who dislike muslims only make up 1%?
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#88 MagnumPI
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I don't hate on Muslims.

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#89 doom3lv
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I openly dislike islam and their culture. It has not place in the western world.
I think all religions inspire to see differences among men, but in my opinion, islam goes a bit too far.
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#90 gaming25
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I openly dislike islam and their culture. It has not place in the western world.
I think all religions inspire to see differences among men, but in my opinion, islam goes a bit too far. doom3lv
And why do you say that?

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don't hate the players, ( muslims, christians, atheists ) hate the game ( religion ) :Pcomp_atkins
:lol: I like this. Alot.
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#92 gaming25
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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]don't hate the players, ( muslims, christians, atheists ) hate the game ( religion ) :PPerfectCircles
:lol: I like this. Alot.

I dont.
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#93 Metal_Mario99
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I openly dislike islam and their culture. It has not place in the western world.
I think all religions inspire to see differences among men, but in my opinion, islam goes a bit too far. doom3lv

Agreed.

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#94 markinthedark
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i hate all religious people equally.

anyone thats believes fairy tales over logic and reasoning is a bit off their rocker in my book.

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#95 doom3lv
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[QUOTE="doom3lv"]I openly dislike islam and their culture. It has not place in the western world.
I think all religions inspire to see differences among men, but in my opinion, islam goes a bit too far. gaming25

And why do you say that?

I cannot debate the merits or demerits of islam with you because you are convinced that islam is always right.

I cannot win an argument with you.

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#96 doom3lv
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[QUOTE="doom3lv"]I openly dislike islam and their culture. It has not place in the western world.
I think all religions inspire to see differences among men, but in my opinion, islam goes a bit too far. Metal_Mario99

Agreed.

One person dared to speak and not strive to be politically correct. there is hope.

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#97 IAMTHEJOKER88
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So majwill24, Europe is defined by rampant and overt racism, right? Bit inappropriate of us to send supplies and financial aid to help people we are so racist against. Meh.

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it is?
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#98 MagnumPI
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[QUOTE="doom3lv"]I openly dislike islam and their culture. It has not place in the western world.
I think all religions inspire to see differences among men, but in my opinion, islam goes a bit too far. gaming25

And why do you say that?

Rather than ask someone why they have their opinion why don't you share yours. Maybe enlighten everyone.

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[QUOTE="PerfectCircles"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]don't hate the players, ( muslims, christians, atheists ) hate the game ( religion ) :Pgaming25
:lol: I like this. Alot.

I dont.

Thats a shame.
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#100 gaming25
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[QUOTE="gaming25"]

[QUOTE="doom3lv"]I openly dislike islam and their culture. It has not place in the western world.
I think all religions inspire to see differences among men, but in my opinion, islam goes a bit too far. doom3lv

And why do you say that?

I cannot debate the merits or demerits of islam with you because you are convinced that islam is always right.

I cannot win an argument with you.

I ask you for proof and facts, and you cant give me either. So yes, you cannot win an argument with me.