Since we all love to hate Muslims...

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="PerfectCircles"] :lol: I like this. Alot. PerfectCircles

[QUOTE="PerfectCircles"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]don't hate the players, ( muslims, christians, atheists ) hate the game ( religion ) :Pgaming25

What? You didn't know there are theplayers then there is the game? Who hasbeen raising you?

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="doom3lv"]I openly dislike islam and their culture. It has not place in the western world.
I think all religions inspire to see differences among men, but in my opinion, islam goes a bit too far. doom3lv

Agreed.

That isn't really "politically incorrect". It's simply bigoted.

[QUOTE="doom3lv"]

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

Agreed.

SgtKevali

That isn't really "politically incorrect". It's simply bigoted.

Haven't you heard? Everything that isn't politically correct is bigoted.

I don´t hate individuals, although I can definitely hate their opinions. I think Islam is violent, totalitarian, discriminatory bull****.

Having said that, several very good friends of mine are muslim and we get along very well.

Pakistan isn't exactly a good example...

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="doom3lv"] One person dared to speak and not strive to be politically correct. there is hope.

Metal_Mario99

That isn't really "politically incorrect". It's simply bigoted.

Haven't you heard? Everything that isn't politically correct is bigoted.

US an EU actually donated hundreds of millions of dollars when a disaster occurred in some Islamic country I'm unsure which country..whereas places like Saudi Arabia and so on donated a fraction of the amount...people fail to realize that people do not hate Muslims..as in..the followers of the Religion..people dislike the teachings/ideology of Islam..

US an EU actually donated hundreds of millions of dollars when a disaster occurred in some Islamic country I'm unsure which country..whereas places like Saudi Arabia and so on donated a fraction of the amount...people fail to realize that people do not hate Muslims..as in..the followers of the Religion..people dislike the teachings/ideology of Islam..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

Uhh not defending either side but thats a pretty ridiculous comparison.. So your going to compare an entire continent or the most powerful country of the world donated, to a small Islamic nation in direct values??

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

US an EU actually donated hundreds of millions of dollars when a disaster occurred in some Islamic country I'm unsure which country..whereas places like Saudi Arabia and so on donated a fraction of the amount...people fail to realize that people do not hate Muslims..as in..the followers of the Religion..people dislike the teachings/ideology of Islam..

sSubZerOo

Uhh not defending either side but thats a pretty ridiculous comparison.. So your going to compare an entire continent or the most powerful country of the world donated, to a small Islamic nation in direct values??

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

US an EU actually donated hundreds of millions of dollars when a disaster occurred in some Islamic country I'm unsure which country..whereas places like Saudi Arabia and so on donated a fraction of the amount...people fail to realize that people do not hate Muslims..as in..the followers of the Religion..people dislike the teachings/ideology of Islam..

LJS9502_basic

Uhh not defending either side but thats a pretty ridiculous comparison.. So your going to compare an entire continent or the most powerful country of the world donated, to a small Islamic nation in direct values??

Saudi Arabia is no where near as wealthy as either one.. Hence there would be no way possible they could ever match what either the European Union or US could donate direct value.. It should be proportioned based on their GDP..

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Uhh not defending either side but thats a pretty ridiculous comparison.. So your going to compare an entire continent or the most powerful country of the world donated, to a small Islamic nation in direct values??

sSubZerOo

Saudi Arabia is no where near as wealthy as either one.. Hence there would be no way possible they could ever match what either the European Union or US could donate direct value.. It should be proportioned based on their GDP..

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I think you judge by the wealth of the country...not the population.LJS9502_basic

Saudi Arabia is no where near as wealthy as either one.. Hence there would be no way possible they could ever match what either the European Union or US could donate direct value.. It should be proportioned based on their GDP..

:| .......................... Do you have any idea how economy works.. Even in this "immense" debt.. They can put forward funds and produce more wealth then anything Saudi Arabia can amount to.. I am not defending Saudi Arabia here, I am certain that US and EU both give more funds in proportion based on their GDP.. I was pointing out that a DIRECT comparison what so ever in seeing who is more "giving" is flawed to the extreme..

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Saudi Arabia is no where near as wealthy as either one.. Hence there would be no way possible they could ever match what either the European Union or US could donate direct value.. It should be proportioned based on their GDP..

sSubZerOo

:| .......................... Do you have any idea how economy works.. Even in this "immense" debt.. They can put forward funds and produce more wealth then anything Saudi Arabia can amount to.. I am not defending Saudi Arabia here, I am certain that US and EU both give more funds in proportion based on their GDP.. I was pointing out that a DIRECT comparison what so ever in seeing who is more "giving"..

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] The US is vastly in debt....which kind of erases the wealth.LJS9502_basic

:| .......................... Do you have any idea how economy works.. Even in this "immense" debt.. They can put forward funds and produce more wealth then anything Saudi Arabia can amount to.. I am not defending Saudi Arabia here, I am certain that US and EU both give more funds in proportion based on their GDP.. I was pointing out that a DIRECT comparison what so ever in seeing who is more "giving"..

You can blame politicians for that.. Many of a countries donations for aid are to countires of economic or poltiical importance.. So yet again this whole "kindness" of their hearts things is quite flawed.. Thats not how the real world works..

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

:| .......................... Do you have any idea how economy works.. Even in this "immense" debt.. They can put forward funds and produce more wealth then anything Saudi Arabia can amount to.. I am not defending Saudi Arabia here, I am certain that US and EU both give more funds in proportion based on their GDP.. I was pointing out that a DIRECT comparison what so ever in seeing who is more "giving"..

sSubZerOo

You can blame politicians for that.. Many of a countries donations for aid are to countires of economic or poltiical importance.. So yet again this whole "kindness" of their hearts things is quite flawed.. Thats not how the real world works..

I don´t hate individuals, although I can definitely hate their opinions. I think Islam is violent, totalitarian, discriminatory bull****.

Having said that, several very good friends of mine are muslim and we get along very well.

Harkat95

.. Yet your friends with these violent totalitarian and descrimatory friends of yours? Either your a masochist or are they not that what so ever.. And if they arn't that, you just stereotyped them.. The point being is religion is a vehicle of political gain.. Theocracies and the like are hardly gods will regardless of which religion of it, but the will of a select few enforced by the supposed will of god.. Saudi Arabia and Iran are not much different from Christian led nations a few hundred years back, then they secularized and it still took centuries to do so.. Not all countries develope at the same rate, and numerous things can change it adversely.. The mere fact that Islam can cope within the United States into a secular mind set puts it at the exact same ground as Christianity and other religions able to cope with secular ideas..

[QUOTE="Harkat95"]

I don´t hate individuals, although I can definitely hate their opinions. I think Islam is violent, totalitarian, discriminatory bull****.

Having said that, several very good friends of mine are muslim and we get along very well.

sSubZerOo

.. Yet your friends with these violent totalitarian and descrimatory friends of yours? Either your a masochist or are they not that what so ever.. And if they arn't that, you just stereotyped them.. The point being is religion is a vehicle of political gain.. Theocracies and the like are hardly gods will regardless of which religion of it, but the will of a select few enforced by the supposed will of god.. Saudi Arabia and Iran are not much different from Christian led nations a few hundred years back, then they secularized and it still took centuries to do so.. Not all countries develope at the same rate, and numerous things can change it adversely.. The mere fact that Islam can cope within the United States into a secular mind set puts it at the exact same ground as Christianity and other religions able to cope with secular ideas..

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Harkat95"]

I don´t hate individuals, although I can definitely hate their opinions. I think Islam is violent, totalitarian, discriminatory bull****.

Having said that, several very good friends of mine are muslim and we get along very well.

CannedWorms

.. Yet your friends with these violent totalitarian and descrimatory friends of yours? Either your a masochist or are they not that what so ever.. And if they arn't that, you just stereotyped them.. The point being is religion is a vehicle of political gain.. Theocracies and the like are hardly gods will regardless of which religion of it, but the will of a select few enforced by the supposed will of god.. Saudi Arabia and Iran are not much different from Christian led nations a few hundred years back, then they secularized and it still took centuries to do so.. Not all countries develope at the same rate, and numerous things can change it adversely.. The mere fact that Islam can cope within the United States into a secular mind set puts it at the exact same ground as Christianity and other religions able to cope with secular ideas..

Muslims follow Islam.. There is no set text because there are many different representations of it.. So either they are bad Muslims in not worshipping their religion correctly, or his stereotype completely wrong.