So college is now worthless

I went to college to get my A-Levels, but I'm not going to Uni to get a degree. You don't actually need to go to University to gain a degree; you can join an employer who offers a training course in the field you want - plus you get paid. But yeah, degrees are pretty much worthless - there's too many people getting them. Plus, as soon as you gain your degree you'll probably be either told you don't have enough experience, or told you're over qualified.

I disagree that it's worth it for the "life experiences". Isn't £20,000+ a tad expensive for a few beers at the student bar? I'd rather be earning money as I get qualified - while my mates manage on £30 per week :P

College also provides a person time to discover themselves, sleep with countless women, and binge drink like crazy, so even if you don't end up with a great job at the end it's not a total loss.DJ_Lae

[QUOTE="Mochyc"][QUOTE="GazaAli"]I dont know. Im studying in the "best" uni around here. Computer Engineering is my major. 90% of the "Professors" are not good and im pretty sure they cant give me anything at all. BA here takes 5 freakin years! i worked my ass to cute them to 4.5 years. i already finished 4 years and i only have one semester to go. The point is, i dont feel that I accomplished anything spectacular, despite the time and effort i put into it. I feel that we need a better system, that encourage innovations and intuitive thinking, rather than exams and marks. its stupid to be honest, I cant express my disgust with the fascination most teachers and students have for marks. psychobrew

Going into a job interview with a degree is still better than going into one without, I guess.

kidsmelly

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Going into a job interview with a degree is still better than going into one without, I guess.

groovdafied

[QUOTE="groovdafied"][QUOTE="kidsmelly"]

Going into a job interview with a degree is still better than going into one without, I guess.

F1_2004

Some degrees are pretty useless, but others are necessary. Good luck being a heart surgeon without one.Tauruslink

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[QUOTE="groovdafied"][QUOTE="F1_2004"] You're not gonna get 5+ years experience for a job that you need a degree to get in the first place.magicalclick

[QUOTE="F1_2004"][QUOTE="groovdafied"] It all depends on experience. You can walk in with a degree, but you will not get the job over the guy next to you with 5+ years experience.groovdafied

You can thank Capitalism for this sick, sad, sorry, situation. No longer is intelligence valued, only how you can hose your fellow man out of their cash. Pathetic, isn't it?

[QUOTE="groovdafied"][QUOTE="F1_2004"] You're not gonna get 5+ years experience for a job that you need a degree to get in the first place.psychobrew

Still gives you a better shot than not going to college.

[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="Mochyc"] Not to sound like a jerk, but from what I know you live in Gaza. The closest university that is actually good near you (other than in Israel) is probably the American University of Beirut.Mochyc

well thats a downer not only am i having trouble getting a job in college getting,now a job after college is going to be even harder to get.

An education is never worthless.

On the job front, although it doesn't necessary guarantee everyone a job, but the odds of a person with a collegedegree landing a job is definitely higher than someone with onlya HS diploma. And the wages earn is much higher for college grad as well.

Socially speaking, the most meaningful relationships I've ever had were formed while I was in college. People in my HS have yet to discover themselves (myself included) to make for interesting companions, and people at work (again, myself included) need to appear professional and play it safe, thus making it difficult trying to form deep and meaningful relationships.

College, man, is where its at. I would enjoy going back to school again if I have a chance

College, man, is where its at. I would enjoy going back to school again if I have a chance

ariz3260

Really? College is now suddenly worthless because some group of experts say it is? If there is one thing that I have observed about experts making any kind of analysis on anything its that they don't know what they are talking about a good majority of the time. Now I am not saying college is something everybody should do just for the sake of doing it, but to go and call college a waste of time is just absurd. I think people should value a higher education and take the time to learn more about whatever they want to make a career out of.

According to "experts,"college is a waste of time. We have more graduates than jobs requiring degrees, student debt is growing faster than wages, and it causes slower growth in the economy. Take it for what it's worth.

psychobrew

An education is never worthless.ariz3260

It's true that a degree doesn't land you a job like it once did. Employers want experience in this economy, not potential. Where a degree does help for the average person with one is pay scale.

Pirate700

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It's true that a degree doesn't land you a job like it once did. Employers want experience in this economy, not potential. Where a degree does help for the average person with one is pay scale.

Serraph105

If there is one thing that I have observed about experts making any kind of analysis on anything its that they don't know what they are talking about a good majority of the time.

oneMoreComment

I bet most of these experts have a college degree.......:P

Beats being a bum if you ask me.

Beats being a bum if you ask me.

kingdre

yup let alone now the government is the ONLY ones that will give out student loans to anyone, becuase that was writen in the health bill when it passed.

[QUOTE="ariz3260"]

An education is never worthless.EMOEVOLUTION

Well, I didn't exactly put a price tag on an education but, it is true that you don't need to pay somebody to learn

You can't quantify the value of college with statistics. College is priceless. People just latch onto these "studies" to try and justify their unwillingness to do anything productive with their lives.

I wouldn't say it is a complete waste. Ideally, in college, you're suppose to learn more about your subjects and the world itself but as well take the advantage of knowing other people who might become potential friends or even romance. Of course, going to a university doesn't mean that after graduation, you'll get a job and make 250K. It takes time, experience, and money-saving tactics to reach that goal. And while in college, you have to be responsible with your own money and spend wisely while having a good paying job, and study hard and play less. But that's the ideal thing. It also depends on your dream job. If you want to be a doctor, maybe it's best to gain an internship first or volunteer at a hospital or get a menial job if you can. If you want to be an architect, maybe it's best that you start building stuff like small houses or etc before you learn why a circle and square is important to use.

You can't quantify the value of college with statistics. College is priceless. People just latch onto these "studies" to try and justify their unwillingness to do anything productive with their lives.

Communistik

Im sure these "experts" have college education, if they dont than they are not "experts" and i dont care what they have to say.

depends on the major... communications, poly science, engineering, biology, business and others can land u a job in 4 years.... Others like philosophy art psychology sociology u need a masters degree... alot of college students are borderline insane i went to JMU for a semester and suffered from extreme depression and had a nervous breakdown/anxiety attack... its not for everyone its stressful, etc and alot of ppl were clicky... I may try a smaller school Roanoke college... college depends on u if u want a big school or a small school... if u want to blow your parents money to do drugs, drink and sleep with girls and then get kicked out or get a degree to earn yourself money....some ppl with degrees crumble in the real world... selling real estate or insurance is a good way to make money and do not require degrees it really depends on u....

How is college "worthless"? While it might be harder for college graduates to get a job in this economy, even McDonalds will take a college grad over a HS grad. Or, think of it this way. With only a HS diploma, job opportunities are limited to a few low paying jobs, while average-high paying jobs are impossible to get. With a college degree, at least you have a chance of getting those higher paying jobs.Dtnoip28

[QUOTE="ariz3260"]

An education is never worthless.EMOEVOLUTION

yup let alone now the government is the ONLY ones that will give out student loans to anyone, becuase that was writen in the health bill when it passed.

acsam12304

[QUOTE="Communistik"]

You can't quantify the value of college with statistics. College is priceless. People just latch onto these "studies" to try and justify their unwillingness to do anything productive with their lives.

psychobrew

Disagree all you want. If you can't provide a reason as to why you disagree, it doesn't really mean anything to me. Why don't you go ahead and explain what quantitative analysis you can perform that will account for ALL variables in a full-time college experience and their effects on college graduates.

Why don't you go ahead and explain what quantitative analysis you can perform that will account for ALL variables in a full-time college experience and their effects on college graduates.

Communistik

Strangely enough, I would like to see it too if such an experiment has been/will be conducted

It's too easy now with community colleges and such. Modern american society is fueled by college/high school droupouts

[QUOTE="psychobrew"][QUOTE="Communistik"]

You can't quantify the value of college with statistics. College is priceless. People just latch onto these "studies" to try and justify their unwillingness to do anything productive with their lives.

Disagree all you want. If you can't provide a reason as to why you disagree, it doesn't really mean anything to me. Why don't you go ahead and explain what quantitative analysis you can perform that will account for ALL variables in a full-time college experience and their effects on college graduates.