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#51 -TheSecondSign-
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I don't get it. How were you trespassing? Don't take this the wrong way, but it sounds like there has to be more to this story. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

lostrib

railroad tracks are private property

It's doubtful that a police officer would give a shit about walking near a railroad even when he isn't doing anything, let alone when he's actually focused on another matter at hand.

There is probably more to this story than the TC is letting on.

EDIT: Just read the other messages.

Chances are yes, the cop was embarrassed.

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Gamespot lawyers lack creditinalworlock77

Hey, I took my bar exam.

Lionel Hutz has more credential than anyone here.

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#53 BeardMaster
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[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

Sounds like the cop saw you avoiding him and thought you were doing so because you had a warrant or were doing something illegal. When he was wrong he seemed a little butthurt and rather than just saying he was wrong (like a cop would ever do that) gave you a ticket and proceeded to try to make it seem like he was being a nice guy by not arresting you.

 

Goto court and explain it to the prosecuter/judge they might just throw it out.

br0kenrabbit

I sure hope so. I've a clean record at age 37, it would suck to have it marred over this shit.

 

 

You wont have a record, i know my state (and i think most) usually has a first time offender policy where if you dont get arrested within a certain time frame they just drop the charge.

 

Although would be better if you didnt have to burn through your first time offender status, and they just throw it out altogether.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Seriously dude, I'm sure you'll be fine once you explain it. Next time don't look so suspicious though. :P

br0kenrabbit

Remember all those stories I've told about the cops around here harassing me but never being able to charge me with anything? Well, here you go.

I hope they throw you in a small cell next to a guy who's knitting something that isn't really there. =P
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#55 DavesAlt
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is worlock a legal guy
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#56 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Seriously dude, I'm sure you'll be fine once you explain it. Next time don't look so suspicious though. :P

Allicrombie

Remember all those stories I've told about the cops around here harassing me but never being able to charge me with anything? Well, here you go.

I hope they throw you in a small cell next to a guy who's knitting something that isn't really there. =P

:lol:

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#57 worlock77
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is worlock a legal guyDavesAlt

No.

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I was walking in town as I often do, and I came up near an intersection to see three cop cars and another vehicle pulled over. Two cop cars were on one side of the road, the other cruiser and car on the other. I didn't want to walk between them because I had no idea what was going on, so I hop off the road and started walking along (not on) the railway aiming for the parellel road 15 feet down the line.

One of the cops takes off and starts running toward me, grabs me and with a hand behind my back walks me to his car. Long story short I'm being charged with Misdemeanor Criminal Trespass (TCA 39-14-405) and have to appear in court. He said he would have arrested me if I had anything on my record (I don't).

So WTF? What should I expect in court? What should I do...should I argue or just whatever? I don't know.

br0kenrabbit

You got screwed man, that cop could of let you off with a warning, most of the ones around here wouldn't have even bothered.

I almost got arrested for calling a cop a donut eating pig once, it was hilarious.

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#59 Addict187
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Gamespot lawyers lack creditinal so speak to an actual lawyer. It seems like a huge misunderstanding so try to find a good lawyer that will actually help you in a way that you don't get convicted or not settle for a plea bargin.

leviathan91
Just get a Lawyer that can cost a lot of money is you idea. Great so now it costs him a few thousand doller's for doing nothing wrong. great idea is all say
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#60 Ricardomz
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I don't get it. How were you trespassing? Don't take this the wrong way, but it sounds like there has to be more to this story. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

Pirate700

This.

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#61 Rattlesnake_8
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I don't get it. How were you trespassing? Don't take this the wrong way, but it sounds like there has to be more to this story. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

lostrib

railroad tracks are private property

So because he didn't want to get in the way of the cops he walked off to the side which so happened to be over rail road tracks and thats illegal? Sounds completely ridiculous. The town I live in has a few crossings, so if someone walks over them they can be arrested.
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First off TC, since you're being charged the first thing you should do when bringing this up to OT for our combined wisdom, please tell us where and which penal code was violated so we can look up the law to see what the conditions for that charge are, whether it's a state, municipal, county charge. Like someone mentioned before, there might have been no notices that the land was private and that access to it was prohibited, so it would be a good idea to take pictures strengthening that claim. By doing so you'll have room to contest it. Also, since you're being charged you have right to demand legal discovery. See, what happens is if you're charged then all evidence against you in bringing up those charges needs to be made available to you upon request so that you can prepare a defense against those charges. If they fail to meet your request then absolutely nothing can be used against you in court. Much of the time cops fail to provide legal discovery for lesser charges, and the judges end up dismissing charges in those cases.
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I don't get it. How were you trespassing? Don't take this the wrong way, but it sounds like there has to be more to this story. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

Pirate700
Depends on where he lives. The cops here (WV) do crazy things. My mother was arrested for sitting her car. Had to spend the weekend in jail for no reason and we had to pay $200 (that we didn't have to spare) to get her out. She said on the day she got arrested. The other cops busted through some guys front window, killed his dog and pulled the guy out the window (he was watching tv) and arrested him. They broke the door down to the house next to his and arrested the people in there. They also arrested anyone that was walking on the block. In total my mom said about 25 - 30 people were arrested for doing nothing. The cops then tried to say that the people were trying to start a riot and that they arrested them for that reason.
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#64 lamprey263
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I don't get it. How were you trespassing? Don't take this the wrong way, but it sounds like there has to be more to this story. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

2ndWonder
Depends on where he lives. The cops here (WV) do crazy things. My mother was arrested for sitting her car. Had to spend the weekend in jail for no reason and we had to pay $200 (that we didn't have to spare) to get her out. She said on the day she got arrested. The other cops busted through some guys front window, killed his dog and pulled the guy out the window (he was watching tv) and arrested him. They broke the door down to the house next to his and arrested the people in there. They also arrested anyone that was walking on the block. In total my mom said about 25 - 30 people were arrested for doing nothing. The cops then tried to say that the people were trying to start a riot and that they arrested them for that reason.

that's messed up
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#65 worlock77
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[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

Gamespot lawyers lack creditinal so speak to an actual lawyer. It seems like a huge misunderstanding so try to find a good lawyer that will actually help you in a way that you don't get convicted or not settle for a plea bargin.

Addict187

Just get a Lawyer that can cost a lot of money is you idea. Great so now it costs him a few thousand doller's for doing nothing wrong. great idea is all say

Or he could forgo a lawter and possibly wind up getting screwed. Yeah, it sucks that he'd be out for doing nothing wrong, but that's how life goes sometimes.

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#66 Promised_Trini
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Well dam that sucks man.Also why the hell are Cops in the states seem to off their meds,or need meds:P.I live in Canada and I seen the Cops Toronto do some pretty stupid stuff already.

Reminds me why I am staying a Lead Security Offficer.

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#67 DavesAlt
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I am not versed in the law to comment on rather or not he did wrong
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I don't get it. How were you trespassing? Don't take this the wrong way, but it sounds like there has to be more to this story. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

2ndWonder

Depends on where he lives. The cops here (WV) do crazy things. My mother was arrested for sitting her car. Had to spend the weekend in jail for no reason and we had to pay $200 (that we didn't have to spare) to get her out. She said on the day she got arrested. The other cops busted through some guys front window, killed his dog and pulled the guy out the window (he was watching tv) and arrested him. They broke the door down to the house next to his and arrested the people in there. They also arrested anyone that was walking on the block. In total my mom said about 25 - 30 people were arrested for doing nothing. The cops then tried to say that the people were trying to start a riot and that they arrested them for that reason.

Did something like that ever make into the news.Thats really messed up.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I don't get it. How were you trespassing? Don't take this the wrong way, but it sounds like there has to be more to this story. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

2ndWonder

Depends on where he lives. The cops here (WV) do crazy things. My mother was arrested for sitting her car. Had to spend the weekend in jail for no reason and we had to pay $200 (that we didn't have to spare) to get her out. She said on the day she got arrested. The other cops busted through some guys front window, killed his dog and pulled the guy out the window (he was watching tv) and arrested him. They broke the door down to the house next to his and arrested the people in there. They also arrested anyone that was walking on the block. In total my mom said about 25 - 30 people were arrested for doing nothing. The cops then tried to say that the people were trying to start a riot and that they arrested them for that reason.

What in the hell :lol:

honestly that's messed up. Someone needs to remind these cops their job entitles to SERVE and PROTECT. Not to Bust and to Collect Bail.

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#70 WhiteKnight77
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Railroad rights of way distances can vary depending on location. I have seen values of 50 to 66 feet or 25 to 33 feet from the centerline of the tracks. One would think that any police department could enforce them. Most lines are posted though some signs may have faded depending on age. I know CSX here where I live has some track fenced off with no signs that I have seen, but further up the line in either direction, it isn't. CSX has a problem with people walking the tracks here in Marietta and getting killed due to it.

Without knowing the number of fatalities where you live, that could be why you were cited. 

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#71 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I don't get it. How were you trespassing? Don't take this the wrong way, but it sounds like there has to be more to this story. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

Rattlesnake_8

railroad tracks are private property

So because he didn't want to get in the way of the cops he walked off to the side which so happened to be over rail road tracks and thats illegal? Sounds completely ridiculous. The town I live in has a few crossings, so if someone walks over them they can be arrested.

If they're areas marked for crossing the railroad tracks, then no. That's not illegal

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Did something like that ever make into the news.Thats really messed up.

Promised_Trini
Luckily no it didn't. I'm sure that would have made the people that got arrested even more upset than they already were.

What in the hell :lol:

honestly that's messed up. Someone needs to remind these cops their job entitles to SERVE and PROTECT. Not to Bust and to Collect Bail.

ReadingRainbow4
Care to come here and do it? :P
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Are you black TC?
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#74 deactivated-598fc45371265
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You should have made a run for it.

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#75 br0kenrabbit
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Are you black TC?Shottayouth13-

White as the driven snow.

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[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="caseypayne69"]Sounds like a couple of Judge Dredds over their. I'd research the law he is referring too. Can't trust a lawyler now days. They just one to bleed you dry. Make sure its a all together fee. You said you didn't get arrested so why would you have to appear in court? I'm confused.BeardMaster

He just said "If you have anything on your record I'm going to arrest you" and then went and called me in, then he came back and said "I'm not going to arrest you today if you promise me that you'll show up for your court date."

 

Sounds like the cop saw you avoiding him and thought you were doing so because you had a warrant or were doing something illegal. When he was wrong he seemed a little butthurt and rather than just saying he was wrong (like a cop would ever do that) gave you a ticket and proceeded to try to make it seem like he was being a nice guy by not arresting you.

In which case, he accosted you with no legal reason or probable cause. Which is a crime, on his part. Fight the charge, and sue the police department, and also the officer, personally. Bleed those power hungry cocksuckers for as much settlement money as the state can cough up.

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[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"]Are you black TC?br0kenrabbit

White as the driven snow.

Oh. Well that rules out racial prejudice. It's still an extremely petty thing to almost get arrested for and go to court over. A warning would have surely sufficed.
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[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"]Are you black TC?br0kenrabbit

White as the driven snow.

Oh, that probably saved you. If you were black, they would have beat your ass.
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="m0zart"]

I am a little confused from the description vs. the charge. Were you actually trespassing?

You should call your lawyer.

m0zart

If I remember correctly, railroad tracks are private property

I've walked along them pretty much all my young life back in Virginia -- nearly 20 years worth before I left. Never seemed to have any issue.

I guess things change.

Hell, I played on them as a kid...leave coins on the rails to make cool deformed pennies and quarters....or just waive to the conductors and make them blow the horn

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#80 DavesAlt
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[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"]Are you black TC?br0kenrabbit

White as the driven snow.

Were the officers black
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Since 9/11 a lot of things can be considered a part of national security and railroads can be critical infrastructure. Though it really sounds like the cop is going a bit overboard on the charges, but then we dont know where you did or maybe he saw you do something that you didn't.
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That's why I just walk right through the police as if they weren't there, they can tell me to go around if that's what they want.

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Appear in court or get an attorney.

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#84 br0kenrabbit
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Were the officers blackDavesAlt

Not in this town.

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#85 br0kenrabbit
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Appear in court or get an attorney.

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Yup. Calling one up tomorrow.

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[QUOTE="EagleEyedOne"]

Appear in court or get an attorney.

br0kenrabbit

Yup. Calling one up tomorrow.

That's your best move.
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lol its funny thats what tax dollars go too. **** cops are retarded

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lol its funny thats what tax dollars go too. **** cops are retarded

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"Cops are retarded" until they are on your side.
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#89 akdiuuuryttt
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[QUOTE="akdiuuuryttt"]

lol its funny thats what tax dollars go too. **** cops are retarded

EagleEyedOne

"Cops are retarded" until they are on your side.

 

ok well some cops are retarded

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#90 JJ_Productions
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[QUOTE="akdiuuuryttt"]

lol its funny thats what tax dollars go too. **** cops are retarded

EagleEyedOne
"Cops are retarded" until they are on your side.

Never once had the police on my side. Don't need them.
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[QUOTE="EagleEyedOne"][QUOTE="akdiuuuryttt"]

lol its funny thats what tax dollars go too. **** cops are retarded

JJ_Productions
"Cops are retarded" until they are on your side.

Never once had the police on my side. Don't need them.

That's unfortunate for you.
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[QUOTE="EagleEyedOne"][QUOTE="JJ_Productions"][QUOTE="EagleEyedOne"] "Cops are retarded" until they are on your side.

Never once had the police on my side. Don't need them.

That's unfortunate for you.

Its actually not. It taught me to be much more independent and self reliant.
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[QUOTE="JJ_Productions"][QUOTE="EagleEyedOne"][QUOTE="JJ_Productions"] Never once had the police on my side. Don't need them.

That's unfortunate for you.

Its actually not. It taught me to be much more independent and self reliant.

Good. Congratulations.
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I don't get it. How were you trespassing? Don't take this the wrong way, but it sounds like there has to be more to this story. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

2ndWonder
Depends on where he lives. The cops here (WV) do crazy things. My mother was arrested for sitting her car. Had to spend the weekend in jail for no reason and we had to pay $200 (that we didn't have to spare) to get her out. She said on the day she got arrested. The other cops busted through some guys front window, killed his dog and pulled the guy out the window (he was watching tv) and arrested him. They broke the door down to the house next to his and arrested the people in there. They also arrested anyone that was walking on the block. In total my mom said about 25 - 30 people were arrested for doing nothing. The cops then tried to say that the people were trying to start a riot and that they arrested them for that reason.

Mom didn't want to tell you she was guilty man.
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[QUOTE="EagleEyedOne"][QUOTE="akdiuuuryttt"]

lol its funny thats what tax dollars go too. **** cops are retarded

JJ_Productions

"Cops are retarded" until they are on your side.

Never once had the police on my side. Don't need them.

I doubt you'd be saying that if the police suddenly disappear.

Just because you've never needed them to directly help you, doesn't mean they don't indirectly help you.

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#96 JJ_Productions
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[QUOTE="JJ_Productions"][QUOTE="EagleEyedOne"] "Cops are retarded" until they are on your side.toast_burner

Never once had the police on my side. Don't need them.

I doubt you'd be saying that if the police suddenly disappear.

Just because you've never needed them to directly help you, doesn't mean they don't indirectly help you.

The police has in fact, brought more grief into my life then anything else and before you assume i'm a criminal I have no charges or have been convicted of anything. I can assure you I would be relieved when they do disappear because they are utterly useless. I had someone try to break into my house once, I grabbed my sword and chased them down the road. I called the police, they didn't show up until 3 hours later claiming that they were busy, yet, whenever i'm walking the streets with my friend dem, they always have time to harass us, claim we have weed, attempt to illegally search us, pull guns on us, beat us, damage our property etc. I even had one try to threaten me with a 5000 thousand dollar ticket if I didn't go out, get to know the criminals in the area, and report who has guns and drugs (obviously I refused and ended up with the 5000 grand ticket, which I took to court and got it dropped to 1000, this is when I was 19, who at 19 has disposable income like that). So no, I can safely say without a doubt unless the police right me every wrong they have done against me, they can go ef them selves.
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#97 Planeforger
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="JJ_Productions"] Never once had the police on my side. Don't need them.JJ_Productions

I doubt you'd be saying that if the police suddenly disappear.

Just because you've never needed them to directly help you, doesn't mean they don't indirectly help you.

The police has in fact, brought more grief into my life then anything else and before you assume i'm a criminal I have no charges or have been convicted of anything. I can assure you I would be relieved when they do disappear because they are utterly useless. I had someone try to break into my house once, I grabbed my sword and chased them down the road. I called the police, they didn't show up until 3 hours later claiming that they were busy, yet, whenever i'm walking the streets with my friend dem, they always have time to harass us, claim we have weed, attempt to illegally search us, pull guns on us, beat us, damage our property etc. I even had one try to threaten me with a 5000 thousand dollarticket if I didn't go out, get to know the criminals in the area, and report who has guns and drugs (obviously I refused and ended up with the 5000 grand ticket, which I took to court and got it dropped to 1000, this is when I was 19, who at 19 has disposable income like that). So no, I can safely say without a doubt unless the police right me every wrong they have done against me, they can go ef them selves.

You were fined five million dollars?

Although assuming that was a typo, I still find your story unlikely - or at least, it feels like you aren't telling the complete story.

Then again, I've never had any problems with the police whatsoever (despite spending a lot of time wandering/driving around the city after midnight), so I'm more inclined to think that the police don't seem all that bad.

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#98 m0zart
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[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

Sounds like the cop saw you avoiding him and thought you were doing so because you had a warrant or were doing something illegal. When he was wrong he seemed a little butthurt and rather than just saying he was wrong (like a cop would ever do that) gave you a ticket and proceeded to try to make it seem like he was being a nice guy by not arresting you.

Goto court and explain it to the prosecuter/judge they might just throw it out.

br0kenrabbit

I sure hope so. I've a clean record at age 37, it would suck to have it marred over this shit.

I am glad you at least didn't get arrested.

I applied for that Global Entry pass recently so I could more easily get through customs and immigrations, which the last three or four trips has been a four hour nightmare in a large room without air conditiong. I had to go in for an inverview to qualify. I was asked "Have you ever been arrested?", so I joked and said "Never convicted of anything." She said "No, I said arrested. Have you ever been arrested?"

I said no, because I haven't. Then I had to ask the inevitable question -- why does it matter if I have been arrested. False arrests happen all the time. She said that any arrests could bar me from qualification, even if any charges were dropped or resolved without conviction or a guilty plea, which means even if the arrest was a mistake.

I was surprised and disappointed. An arrest record apparently is worse than I thought.

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#99 AbstractRadical
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I would contact a lawyer and see what he says.
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#100 AbstractRadical
Member since 2013 • 632 Posts
I would contact a lawyer and see what he says.