So, Obama just spoke about the Treyvon tragedy...
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[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]The basis is just my own personal bias. Everybody hears a story and has their own internal judgment of whether they're buying it or not. I do not believe Zimmerman followed that kid with a gun, turned back and then Trayvon ran after him and brutally assaulted him for absolutely no reason. I just dont buy it at all. It doesn't have the ring of truth to it. What was his motive? Why do it? Do many 17 year old kids murder someone with their bare hands for no reason? It just doesn't make sense. Everything south of "So let me get this straight" I'm not going to bother responding to seeing as I've said nothing even close to any of that and dont want to waste my time rebuking things I never even said. Ah at least you admit that you are going by bias and not facts. Maybe take a break from arguing bias over facts then.You don't "buy the story" based on what?
Is there any basis?
What I'm seeing in your post (and also in the black community in general) is alot of "assumed hostility."
ie "I'm black therefor I KNOW that light skinned people want to find excuses and ways to kill me."
This is clearly denoted by some of the posts above that say basically "Why didn't he just throw him off, no, he wanted to use that gun."
So let me get this straight.
GZ went out of his way to find a black boy, went out of his way to follow him, went out of his way to get attacked by him, more or less pulled him on top and let him take swings, for the sole purpose of "using the gun" and killing a black kid.
I can understand the idea that maybe GZ was trying to act like a cop (and yes I believe that's more or less what happened.)
Ninja-Hippo
[QUOTE="Bucked20"][QUOTE="LazySloth718"]If trayvon was really on him why the hell didn't he just fight back and move around,I bet he was just reaching for his gun to shoot him instead of just trying to dodge the hits It must be heaven in your make belief land that doesn't require facts.... How come you overlook the fact that coworkers said when he snapped he was a whole different person and he took it overboard when he hit that woman.He has a history of fighting and assaulting people but for some reason yall push it to the side like it doesn't matterSo you're saying essentially he pulled the guy on top of him and went "ok kid hit me" just to pull out a gun and shoot him?
A little ridiculous no?
LJS9502_basic
[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]The basis is just my own personal bias. Everybody hears a story and has their own internal judgment of whether they're buying it or not. I do not believe Zimmerman followed that kid with a gun, turned back and then Trayvon ran after him and brutally assaulted him for absolutely no reason. I just dont buy it at all. It doesn't have the ring of truth to it. What was his motive? Why do it? Do many 17 year old kids murder someone with their bare hands for no reason? It just doesn't make sense. Everything south of "So let me get this straight" I'm not going to bother responding to seeing as I've said nothing even close to any of that and dont want to waste my time rebuking things I never even said.Â
You don't "buy the story" based on what?
Is there any basis?
What I'm seeing in your post (and also in the black community in general) is alot of "assumed hostility."
ie "I'm black therefor I KNOW that light skinned people want to find excuses and ways to kill me."
This is clearly denoted by some of the posts above that say basically "Why didn't he just throw him off, no, he wanted to use that gun."
So let me get this straight.
GZ went out of his way to find a black boy, went out of his way to follow him, went out of his way to get attacked by him, more or less pulled him on top and let him take swings, for the sole purpose of "using the gun" and killing a black kid.
I can understand the idea that maybe GZ was trying to act like a cop (and yes I believe that's more or less what happened.)
Ninja-Hippo
What about "some creepy ass cracker is following me."
I think Trayvon had plenty of reason to want to attack GZ.
Hell if GZ was following me like that, I'd want to punch him in the face too.
. You are full of sh*t Ive seen fights in high school with worst injuries than what he had Oooh anecdotal evidence. It's a fact that smashing someone's head on concrete can lead to death. That is not disputable. Therefore, GZ had a right to fear for his life Kicking someone's head in is much worse and those kids are doing just great right now[QUOTE="Bucked20"][QUOTE="Enfamous_Mr_BHC"] I see how Zimmerman looked and I can tell he needed a gun to do anything physical if he wants to be a "law enforcer". He's just another guy with a gun who doesn't have heart or grit unless he's holding. I bet you if he wasn't carrying none of this would have happen. That's how a lot of those pro gun zealots are no heart and all fear unless they have a weapon.LJS9502_basic
People can and have died from 1 punch.
Just punching someone in the face can kill them.
Does that mean everybody in a fist fight is actually attempting murder?
[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Ah at least you admit that you are going by bias and not facts. Maybe take a break from arguing bias over facts then.LJS9502_basicI always clearly differentiate between facts and my own opinions, and most people can learn to simply detect facts from opinions without them having to be disclaimered. But you're not most people, are you buddy? No you clearly do not. There is no evidence Martin was innocent. Yet you continue to call him that. In my view he was an innocent kid who had done nothing wrong prior to the chain of events which Zimmerman started when he decided to follow him. I believe he was an innocent kid for the reasons I originally stated; he wasn't on drugs, as Zimmerman thought, he wasn't carrying anything suspicious, as Zimmerman thought, and he had nothing to do with the break-ins, as Zimmerman thought. In my view he was clearly just an innocent kid incorrectly targeted. Now, after he was targeted it may be a different story, but we dont know what happened so it's pointless to speculate.
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All I know is that prior to Zimmerman deciding to follow Trayvon, he'd done nothing of any harm to anyone. He was therefore entirely innocent. Even then, that is just my view of this situation. If you need me to rubber-stamp every sentence with IN MY OPINION so you know for sure I'm not asserting a fact, you need to go back to grade school.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Oooh anecdotal evidence. It's a fact that smashing someone's head on concrete can lead to death. That is not disputable. Therefore, GZ had a right to fear for his life Kicking someone's head in is much worse and those kids are doing just great right now That's good. That doesn't mean a kick to the head can't and won't kill. I have a question for you....and others...it's not an answer I want. More like I want you to stop and think within yourself. If Zimmerman was black....and Martin Hispanic or white.....would you still feel the same way? Take some time to examine that. Like I said...no answer is required here.....more like something for you to consider going forward.[QUOTE="Bucked20"]. You are full of sh*t Ive seen fights in high school with worst injuries than what he had Bucked20
[QUOTE="Bucked20"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Oooh anecdotal evidence. It's a fact that smashing someone's head on concrete can lead to death. That is not disputable. Therefore, GZ had a right to fear for his lifeLJS9502_basicKicking someone's head in is much worse and those kids are doing just great right now That's good. That doesn't mean a kick to the head can't and won't kill. I have a question for you....and others...it's not an answer I want. More like I want you to stop and think within yourself. If Zimmerman was black....and Martin Hispanic or white.....would you still feel the same way? Take some time to examine that. Like I said...no answer is required here.....more like something for you to consider going forward. Going by Florida's track record if Zimmerman was black and Treyvon was white, Zimmerman would be doing 20 to life right now.
[QUOTE="Bucked20"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Oooh anecdotal evidence. It's a fact that smashing someone's head on concrete can lead to death. That is not disputable. Therefore, GZ had a right to fear for his lifeLJS9502_basicKicking someone's head in is much worse and those kids are doing just great right now That's good. That doesn't mean a kick to the head can't and won't kill. I have a question for you....and others...it's not an answer I want. More like I want you to stop and think within yourself. If Zimmerman was black....and Martin Hispanic or white.....would you still feel the same way? Take some time to examine that. Like I said...no answer is required here.....more like something for you to consider going forward. He would have been locked up and deservingly so
[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]Neither. We do not know who started the confrontation or how or why the two individuals came to blows. Trayvon indeed didn't sustain injuries other than the gunshot wound, but we have no idea what the circumstances were in which he ended up assaulting Zimmerman. Zimmerman might have tried to grab him and apprehend him. Zimmerman's account is that Treyvon just jumped him for no reason, but I dont buy that story at all. Of course, I dont assert that as fact. I maintain that we just dont know, and we never will because only one side of the story is alive to tell it.Â
We know GZ had a broken nose and injuries to the back of his head.
We know he was assaulted.
We know TM had no marks other than the gunshot wound.
Are you asserting that the evidence is wrong?
Or are you asserting that assaulting GZ was somehow justified?
Ninja-Hippo
Not sure if I buy the full Zimmerman stroy, the human memory if very fallible and in a situation like this it is even more so. So I took his story with a grain of salt. However looking at the evidecne like how Zimmerman has injuries and Trayvon (other than the gunshot wound) didn't have any. There was also the witness who said that he saw someone matching Trayvon on top of someone matching Zimmerman. What I think happened was when the confrontation happened there were mistakes on both ends, and better communcation would of saved both their lives. (Zimmerman may be a free man now, but the death of Trayvon will be with him for the rest of his life)
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For example, I'm neighborhood watch and I have a gun - I've called the police and they're on their way. Apparently he never had the chance to say this because Treyvon dived out of a bush, brutally beat him and declared he was going to murder him. This a 17 year old kid. Just sounds like bullsh1t.Not sure if I buy the full Zimmerman stroy, the human memory if very fallible and in a situation like this it is even more so. So I took his story with a grain of salt. However looking at the evidecne like how Zimmerman has injuries and Trayvon (other than the gunshot wound) didn't have any. There was also the witness who said that he saw someone matching Trayvon on top of someone matching Zimmerman. What I think happened was when the confrontation happened there were mistakes on both ends, and better communcation would of saved both their lives. (Zimmerman may be a free man now, but the death of Trayvon will be with him for the rest of his life)
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Chaos_HL21
No you clearly do not. There is no evidence Martin was innocent. Yet you continue to call him that. In my view he was an innocent kid who had done nothing wrong prior to the chain of events which Zimmerman started when he decided to follow him. I believe he was an innocent kid for the reasons I originally stated; he wasn't on drugs, as Zimmerman thought, he wasn't carrying anything suspicious, as Zimmerman thought, and he had nothing to do with the break-ins, as Zimmerman thought. In my view he was clearly just an innocent kid incorrectly targeted. Now, after he was targeted it may be a different story, but we dont know what happened so it's pointless to speculate.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] I always clearly differentiate between facts and my own opinions, and most people can learn to simply detect facts from opinions without them having to be disclaimered. But you're not most people, are you buddy? Ninja-Hippo
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All I know is that prior to Zimmerman deciding to follow Trayvon, he'd done nothing of any harm to anyone. He was therefore entirely innocent. Even then, that is just my view of this situation. If you need me to rubber-stamp every sentence with IN MY OPINION so you know for sure I'm not asserting a fact, you need to go back to grade school.
Let's take this one step at a time. You want to use legality. Following or keeping an eye on someone is not illegal. Thus....one should not attack someone for doing so. If you do...you are the aggressor. Go to retail outlets and see how many time someone can be followed to watch for shoplifting.ÂAlso why was he walking through yards and looking in windows rather than walking on the sidewalk and heading home? I'm not saying he was doing anything illegal.....just out of ordinary. Considering the burglaries in the area....one could conclude the behavior was suspicious. Not illegall either. Keeping an eye on the kid...not illegal. It would unnerve me to have someone watch me...yes. But I'd hit the sidewalk and get the hell out of dodge away from the person. Though at 7 PM I don't think I'd freak out.
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You're looking at a very narrow component of what occured. None of us know what TM was doing or why. So we should not assume anything in regard to his motives. He could have just been a peeping tom for all we know. I can tell you that I would not want to look out my window and see someone I ddin't know in my yard. Just as much as I wouldn't want to be followed.
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Anyway none of that matters when we come to basis of the case. At the point that TM was able to elude GZ....that ends. Why did he confront him? Had he be afraid.....I'd think he'd have kept on moving away from GZ. So I don't buy the fear argument. I think he wanted a confrontation since his actions back that up.
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Which does not scream innocent to me.
In response to LJS9502_basic, If Zimmerman didn't have a gun I bet you top dollar he would have stayed in the car and alerted real police to do their job rather then him coming out and make pretended he is one. I can tell this man isn't a fighter and I can tell their isn't a single ounce of heart in him. I've seen Ghetto Bangers with the same complex not to single Zimmerman out but I have a good sense on who is wolf and who is a sheep. Guns make dragon out of sheep but in reality if sheep didn't have a gun it'd run away or avoid danger so it won't become prey. Enfamous_Mr_BHCThat doesn't work with the facts of the case. According to the evidence...he had lost TM and was going to his vehicle.
In my view he was an innocent kid who had done nothing wrong prior to the chain of events which Zimmerman started when he decided to follow him. I believe he was an innocent kid for the reasons I originally stated; he wasn't on drugs, as Zimmerman thought, he wasn't carrying anything suspicious, as Zimmerman thought, and he had nothing to do with the break-ins, as Zimmerman thought. In my view he was clearly just an innocent kid incorrectly targeted. Now, after he was targeted it may be a different story, but we dont know what happened so it's pointless to speculate.[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No you clearly do not. There is no evidence Martin was innocent. Yet you continue to call him that.LJS9502_basic
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All I know is that prior to Zimmerman deciding to follow Trayvon, he'd done nothing of any harm to anyone. He was therefore entirely innocent. Even then, that is just my view of this situation. If you need me to rubber-stamp every sentence with IN MY OPINION so you know for sure I'm not asserting a fact, you need to go back to grade school.
Let's take this one step at a time. You want to use legality. Following or keeping an eye on someone is not illegal. Thus....one should not attack someone for doing so. If you do...you are the aggressor. Go to retail outlets and see how many time someone can be followed to watch for shoplifting.ÂAlso why was he walking through yards and looking in windows rather than walking on the sidewalk and heading home? I'm not saying he was doing anything illegal.....just out of ordinary. Considering the burglaries in the area....one could conclude the behavior was suspicious. Not illegall either. Keeping an eye on the kid...not illegal. It would unnerve me to have someone watch me...yes. But I'd hit the sidewalk and get the hell out of dodge away from the person. Though at 7 PM I don't think I'd freak out.
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You're looking at a very narrow component of what occured. None of us know what TM was doing or why. So we should not assume anything in regard to his motives. He could have just been a peeping tom for all we know. I can tell you that I would not want to look out my window and see someone I ddin't know in my yard. Just as much as I wouldn't want to be followed.
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Anyway none of that matters when we come to basis of the case. At the point that TM was able to elude GZ....that ends. Why did he confront him? Had he be afraid.....I'd think he'd have kept on moving away from GZ. So I don't buy the fear argument. I think he wanted a confrontation since his actions back that up.
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Which does not scream innocent to me.
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Your first sentence is bullsh1t right off the mark. I never said I wanted to use legality. Can you post one comment without being full of sh1t? I've said from the start that legally he was always going to be not guilty.Â
The rest of your post is just you asserting Zimmerman's side of the story as a fact. Zimmerman says he was attacked. Zimmerman says Treyvon came after him. Zimmerman said he was peering in windows and looking suspicious. We don't know what the **** he was doing there. We will never know because the other side of the story isn't alive to tell it.Â
Your example of shopping mall security and this is also ridiculous, which I'm sure you're aware of. Â
Let's take this one step at a time. You want to use legality. Following or keeping an eye on someone is not illegal. Thus....one should not attack someone for doing so. If you do...you are the aggressor. Go to retail outlets and see how many time someone can be followed to watch for shoplifting.Â[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]
[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] In my view he was an innocent kid who had done nothing wrong prior to the chain of events which Zimmerman started when he decided to follow him. I believe he was an innocent kid for the reasons I originally stated; he wasn't on drugs, as Zimmerman thought, he wasn't carrying anything suspicious, as Zimmerman thought, and he had nothing to do with the break-ins, as Zimmerman thought. In my view he was clearly just an innocent kid incorrectly targeted. Now, after he was targeted it may be a different story, but we dont know what happened so it's pointless to speculate.
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All I know is that prior to Zimmerman deciding to follow Trayvon, he'd done nothing of any harm to anyone. He was therefore entirely innocent. Even then, that is just my view of this situation. If you need me to rubber-stamp every sentence with IN MY OPINION so you know for sure I'm not asserting a fact, you need to go back to grade school.
Ninja-Hippo
Also why was he walking through yards and looking in windows rather than walking on the sidewalk and heading home? I'm not saying he was doing anything illegal.....just out of ordinary. Considering the burglaries in the area....one could conclude the behavior was suspicious. Not illegall either. Keeping an eye on the kid...not illegal. It would unnerve me to have someone watch me...yes. But I'd hit the sidewalk and get the hell out of dodge away from the person. Though at 7 PM I don't think I'd freak out.
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You're looking at a very narrow component of what occured. None of us know what TM was doing or why. So we should not assume anything in regard to his motives. He could have just been a peeping tom for all we know. I can tell you that I would not want to look out my window and see someone I ddin't know in my yard. Just as much as I wouldn't want to be followed.
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Anyway none of that matters when we come to basis of the case. At the point that TM was able to elude GZ....that ends. Why did he confront him? Had he be afraid.....I'd think he'd have kept on moving away from GZ. So I don't buy the fear argument. I think he wanted a confrontation since his actions back that up.
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Which does not scream innocent to me.
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Your first sentence is bullsh1t right off the mark. I never said I wanted to use legality. Can you post one comment without being full of sh1t? I've said from the start that legally he was always going to be not guilty.Â
The rest of your post is just you asserting Zimmerman's side of the story as a fact. Zimmerman says he was attacked. Zimmerman says Treyvon came after him. Zimmerman said he was peering in windows and looking suspicious. We don't know what the **** he was doing there. We will never know because the other side of the story isn't alive to tell it.Â
Your example of shopping mall security and this is also ridiculous, which I'm sure you're aware of. Â
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GZ's story has been tried in court....where facts are determined. Evidence is presented. GZ had numerous injuries.....TM did not. Just the gunshot. Which tends to support self defense.
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I did not mention shopping malls. I merely mentioned that one can be followed in life and such not resort to violence.
Since everyone is ok with following people,Im sure you wouldn't mind some creepy dude following your girl,mom,sis, or daughter around since he's not breaking the law.Bucked20If it was a stalking situation that would be different. One time follow with no contact.....not a big deal.
I have never contested that legally Zimmerman was not guilty. This does not require any further legal debate, as it is not contended. He was always going to be found not guilty before the trial even started. I am assuming innocence before Zimmerman started the chain of events. I assume this because innocence is always presumed, both legally and rationally, unless something is shown to make you think otherwise. I do not presume innocence once the two people came to confront each other. I cannot presume anything as nobody knows what actually happened. One being followed by a security guard is massively different to being followed by a total stranger in the street. That can definitely make you feel uneasy. I've had it happen to me. GZ's story has not at all been believed and legitimised in court, and the fact that you continue to say this shows that you haven't even got a basic comprehension of the principles of a criminal trial.Determining innocence and guilt tends to be a legal definition. You don't know what TM was thinking or doing. No one does. Yet you are assuming innocence.
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GZ's story has been tried in court....where facts are determined. Evidence is presented. GZ had numerous injuries.....TM did not. Just the gunshot. Which tends to support self defense.
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I did not mention shopping malls. I merely mentioned that one can be followed in life and such not resort to violence.
LJS9502_basic
I say it has something to do with it, it was a catalyst for bad things to come. Even though he followed and lost TM it was the domino effect for that night. Had he just stayed in the car instead of believing he was a cop TM might be locked up not dead. Again he plays pretend even because he has a weapon, that "gun courage" so many sheep have when they are holding.
[QUOTE="Bucked20"]Since everyone is ok with following people,Im sure you wouldn't mind some creepy dude following your girl,mom,sis, or daughter around since he's not breaking the law.LJS9502_basicIf it was a stalking situation that would be different. One time follow with no contact.....not a big deal. So what about a 1 time follow with contact
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I have never contested that legally Zimmerman was not guilty. This does not require any further legal debate, as it is not contended. He was always going to be found not guilty before the trial even started. I am assuming innocence before Zimmerman started the chain of events. I assume this because innocence is always presumed, both legally and rationally, unless something is shown to make you think otherwise. I do not presume innocence once the two people came to confront each other. I cannot presume anything as nobody knows what actually happened. One being followed by a security guard is massively different to being followed by a total stranger in the street. That can definitely make you feel uneasy. I've had it happen to me. GZ's story has not at all been believed and legitimised in court, and the fact that you continue to say this shows that you haven't even got a basic comprehension of the principles of a criminal trial. There you go again. You say you don't want to come at this legally but you do so. If we aren't going to use legality...then we don't have to say we always assume innocence. You get a DUI. I can decide right then you were guilty...I do not have to give you the benefit of the doubt. Unless I'm on a legal jury and deciding facts of law. You cannot have it both ways. I don't see the difference. TM didn't know exactly what GZ was doing. Yeah in hindsight we know he was following TM. But at the moment in time....TM didn't. What if they were both going in the same direction and just happened to end up one behind the other? That does happen. To automatically assume you're being followed would probably be wrong roughly 99% of the time.Determining innocence and guilt tends to be a legal definition. You don't know what TM was thinking or doing. No one does. Yet you are assuming innocence.
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GZ's story has been tried in court....where facts are determined. Evidence is presented. GZ had numerous injuries.....TM did not. Just the gunshot. Which tends to support self defense.
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I did not mention shopping malls. I merely mentioned that one can be followed in life and such not resort to violence.
Ninja-Hippo
[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]For example, I'm neighborhood watch and I have a gun - I've called the police and they're on their way. Apparently he never had the chance to say this because Treyvon dived out of a bush, brutally beat him and declared he was going to murder him. This a 17 year old kid. Just sounds like bullsh1t.Â
Not sure if I buy the full Zimmerman stroy, the human memory if very fallible and in a situation like this it is even more so. So I took his story with a grain of salt. However looking at the evidecne like how Zimmerman has injuries and Trayvon (other than the gunshot wound) didn't have any. There was also the witness who said that he saw someone matching Trayvon on top of someone matching Zimmerman. What I think happened was when the confrontation happened there were mistakes on both ends, and better communcation would of saved both their lives. (Zimmerman may be a free man now, but the death of Trayvon will be with him for the rest of his life)
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Ninja-Hippo
According to testimony Zimmerman got out of the car, TM said "hey man are you following me?" GZ said "No" and went to pull his phone out of his pants, when he was sucker punched.
I kind of buy that.
It's dark, some guy is digging something out of his pants.
Could be a knife, gun, anything.
Kinda goes to show, if you're not a cop, don't have the training to be a cop, just having a gun doesn't make you a "law enforcer" it just makes you a victim with a gun.
Zimmerman is a bumbling idiot but that in itself doesn't put you in the wrong.
Martin did attack him, wrongly.
They basically both did the wrong thing.
Should of taken him in for some years at least AussieePetGood to see you again
You're not American, so you don't see the "bigger picture"Ok this is getting out of hand, and these bringing up black crimes just to show that blacks attack white is not helping. Violence is violence regardless of colour.
Mercenary848
[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Actually no, marijuana was not in his system and we've already been over this in other threads so you're very much already aware that the levels of THC in his blood were only 1.5 nanograms, compared to 14 nanograms which is the level typically found in a sober individual who frequently smoked weed. So 14 is sober. And he was 1.5; ie completely and utterly negligible and consistent with a person who smoked a joint *weeks ago*. So no, conclusively and actually, he was not on drugs. I only invoke personal attacks with yourself because you're an asshole, you should know this by now. As for him walking up to houses and looking in the windows, this is not a fact at all but just one side of testimony. We do not know what happened that day. Hence why it was dubious circumstances. None of this pointless argument (as per usual) has changed my belief that had Zimmerman left him alone none of this would have happened and he would have simply gone about his business as he already was. Hence, in my view, he was an innocent kid who ended up dead for no good reason. That's in his system dude. Hence...he used drugs. Which you seem to equate to being innocent when not done. Thus...your sentence was wrong. In your view...to hell with the facts......you associate yourself with Martin and thus he was an angel on earth. Doesn't matter if he tried to kill someone...he was innocent I tell you....innocent. Loool so he's criminal for using a non-harmful drug substance weeks ago. Man, you're quite ghoulish, in a passive sort of way.Actually marijuana was in his system....and really neither of those two things have anything to do with whether he was innocent in this case or not. The courts decided, in fact, he was not an innocent here.
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Also if we're going to be honest about the kid....we cannot say he was not a burglar. He was found with burglarly tools in his mother's town. Whether or not he did so here.....we don't know. Though walking on lawns and looking in windows is not the way most people go home. They tend to walk....you know on the sidewalk.
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Zimmerman wasn't arrested because there was no evidence that he committed a crime. And after special interests groups whined and cried out....the city had to pay for a trial...which backed up why the cops didn't arrest him.\\
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Can you go through one thread without personal attacks on people you disagree with? Because everytime I see you in a discussion...you're insulting the other person. As for being "in law"...study up. It can only help.
LJS9502_basic
[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="AussieePet"]Should of taken him in for some years at least nomsayinGood to see you again You seem like you could be AP You're too green
I find it funny that white people have been bringing up what about black on black crime.Ya'll act like black people don't care about it cause you don't see rallies and meetings nationally televised.When black people kill they tend to get arrested on site,within hours or days .Ya'll bring up Chicago murder rate but I guarantee none of u legitimately give a f*ck about them.Bet if them Chi gangs make there way into the white areas and they start to kill some white people America would then start to care.Bucked20Your racism and delusion is embarrassing.
Since everyone is ok with following people,Im sure you wouldn't mind some creepy dude following your girl,mom,sis, or daughter around since he's not breaking the law.Bucked20Way to miss the entire point. There is a difference between being ok with it and wanting to throw somebody in jail for 20 years.
[QUOTE="Bucked20"]I find it funny that white people have been bringing up what about black on black crime.Ya'll act like black people don't care about it cause you don't see rallies and meetings nationally televised.When black people kill they tend to get arrested on site,within hours or days .Ya'll bring up Chicago murder rate but I guarantee none of u legitimately give a f*ck about them.Bet if them Chi gangs make there way into the white areas and they start to kill some white people America would then start to care.TheWalkingGhostYour racism and delusion is embarrassing. Bucked is a fool. He makes us black folk look like uneducated hoodlums.
Your racism and delusion is embarrassing. Bucked is a fool. He makes us black folk look like uneducated hoodlums. I'm not a racist in the least, but I can agree that Bucked makes a lot of black people look really really bad. This isn't anything new though, the best we can all do is take his opinion very lightly.[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="Bucked20"]I find it funny that white people have been bringing up what about black on black crime.Ya'll act like black people don't care about it cause you don't see rallies and meetings nationally televised.When black people kill they tend to get arrested on site,within hours or days .Ya'll bring up Chicago murder rate but I guarantee none of u legitimately give a f*ck about them.Bet if them Chi gangs make there way into the white areas and they start to kill some white people America would then start to care.heeweesRus
[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]Bucked is a fool. He makes us black folk look like uneducated hoodlums. I'm not a racist in the least, but I can agree that Bucked makes a lot of black people look really really bad. This isn't anything new though, the best we can all do is take his opinion very lightly.[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"] Your racism and delusion is embarrassing. WiiMan21
Bucked is Daisy Fitzroy without even half the smarts.
[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]Bucked is a fool. He makes us black folk look like uneducated hoodlums. I'm not a racist in the least, but I can agree that Bucked makes a lot of black people look really really bad. This isn't anything new though, the best we can all do is take his opinion very lightly. I'm just happy I am not the only who gets this.[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"] Your racism and delusion is embarrassing. WiiMan21
I'm not a racist in the least, but I can agree that Bucked makes a lot of black people look really really bad. This isn't anything new though, the best we can all do is take his opinion very lightly.[QUOTE="WiiMan21"][QUOTE="heeweesRus"]Bucked is a fool. He makes us black folk look like uneducated hoodlums.
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Bucked is Daisy Fitzroy without even half the smarts.
Good game, that one.
Is this your way of justifying his murder ?Bucked20
He wasn't murdered. I'm sorry that you don't respect the rule of law, but he was acquitted.
Funny how on this forum that's predominantly white everyone disagrees with me but on predominantly black forums most would agree with a lot of the things I say. I advise some of you to post on a forum dominated by black users to get a different outlook on things.A lot of them can say it in a better way than I can.Bucked20That's because you're hanging out with other like-minded bigots.
Funny how on this forum that's predominantly white everyone disagrees with me but on predominantly black forums most would agree with a lot of the things I say.I advise some of you to post on a forum dominated by black users to get a different outlook on things.A lot of them can say it in a better way than I can.Bucked20It's funny how you assume everybody who disagrees with you is white. Racism is racism, no matter what cop outs you use.
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