So uhh...Breaking Bad is...

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#101 coolbeans90
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IMO: BB >>>> GoT => Mad Men (MM might be better than GoT, but I like it more) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dexter

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#102 worlock77
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The logical fallacies being presented in this thread are painful to read.

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#103 DharmaMember77
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[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"] It's not.

drinkerofjuice

I don't mean to defend him but GoT actually is rated slightly higher than Breaking Bad on imdb. GoT also beat out BB in hulu's best tv shows tournament it was having recently.

And I don't see how any of this makes one show better than the other. When the results vary from site to site, the ratings game is downright pointless. At least with MC, you're getting a consensus from professional critics.

It wasn't even until season 4 when Breaking Bad received a super high metacritic score. GoT's ratings for season 2 and 3 are still slightly higher than BB s2 and 3. The sites may vary but I do think Game of Thrones has a bigger and more devoted fanbase which is an important thing for a tv show to have.

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#104 sammyjenkis898
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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

I don't mean to defend him but GoT actually is rated slightly higher than Breaking Bad on imdb. GoT also beat out BB in hulu's best tv shows tournament it was having recently.

DharmaMember77

imbd is irrelevant. Metacritic is the industry standard for review aggregates. Therefor Breaking Bad >>>>>>Game of Thrones.

I hope you don't let metacritic tell you everything you should and shouldn't like.

It seems like you do the same thing with TSPDT/Sight and Sound.

EDIT: Holy shit, the idiocy in this thread is astounding. 

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#105 dave123321
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thread was overrun by general awfulness
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#106 drinkerofjuice
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It wasn't even until season 4 when Breaking Bad received a super high metacritic score. GoT's ratings for season 2 and 3 are still slightly higher than BB s2 and 3. The sites may vary but I do think Game of Thrones has a bigger and more devoted fanbase which is an important thing for a tv show to have.

DharmaMember77

What does having a bigger, more devoted fanbase have to do with the actual quality of the show?

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#108 sammyjenkis898
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]

[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

I hope you don't let metacritic tell you everything you should and shouldn't like.

DharmaMember77

It seems like you do the same thing with TSPDT/Sight and Sound.

 

In the Mood for Love the best film of the 21st century? lol no

Did I say that? You bring up these lists constantly as if it holds some weight in a subjective argument.

"I don't like Caché"

"IT'S IN THE TSDPT LIST. HERE, HERE! YOU SEE? YOU SHITHEAD. IT'S RIGHT HERE!" 

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#109 DharmaMember77
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[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"] imbd is irrelevant. Metacritic is the industry standard for review aggregates. Therefor Breaking Bad >>>>>>Game of Thrones.

sammyjenkis898

I hope you don't let metacritic tell you everything you should and shouldn't like.

It seems like you do the same thing with TSPDT/Sight and Sound.

 

In the Mood for Love the best film of the 21st century? lol no

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#110 dave123321
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[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

It wasn't even until season 4 when Breaking Bad received a super high metacritic score. GoT's ratings for season 2 and 3 are still slightly higher than BB s2 and 3. The sites may vary but I do think Game of Thrones has a bigger and more devoted fanbase which is an important thing for a tv show to have.

drinkerofjuice

What does having a bigger, more devoted fanbase have to do with the actual quality of the show?

Much of this debate is silly and dealing with irrelevant issues
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#111 DharmaMember77
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[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

It wasn't even until season 4 when Breaking Bad received a super high metacritic score. GoT's ratings for season 2 and 3 are still slightly higher than BB s2 and 3. The sites may vary but I do think Game of Thrones has a bigger and more devoted fanbase which is an important thing for a tv show to have.

drinkerofjuice

What does having a bigger, more devoted fanbase have to do with the actual quality of the show?

What does how high it's metascore have to do with the actual quality of the show?

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#112 DharmaMember77
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[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"] It seems like you do the same thing with TSPDT/Sight and Sound.

 

sammyjenkis898

In the Mood for Love the best film of the 21st century? lol no

Did I say that? You bring up these lists constantly as if it holds some weight in a subjective argument.

"I don't like Caché"

"IT'S IN THE TSDPT LIST. HERE, HERE! YOU SEE? YOU SHITHEAD. IT'S RIGHT HERE!" 

I was using that example in relation to the other poster who said "Breaking Bad is the highest rated tv show ever therefore any other best tv show answer is wrong"

If I ever do bring up those lists it's in defense when somebody says something like "That film isn't notable" "That film was a failure" or "I don't know anybody who likes that movie" For instance I'm not a fan of Requiem for a Dream but I do see it as a notable work in Aronofsky's filmography and can understand why people and critics like it so much.

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#113 CKYguy25
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it's the best show i've ever seen, so good you can watch it on your own time on Netflix which i've done lately

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#114 GOGOGOGURT
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you can tell that its a great show by the fact that very few women watch it,when something is liked by a big percentage of the female population then something is wrong with it.women should stay to the walking dead or game of thrones

Hate_Squad

 

Actually, this is accurate as f*ck.

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#115 SPBoss
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i've been enjoying game of thrones, however as usual nothing is as good as the books
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#116 redstorm72
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My god am I getting sick of everyone talking about Breaking Bad. We get it, it's a great show, now let me watch the Walking Dead and Sons of Anarchy in peace!

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#118 redstorm72
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[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

My god am I getting sick of everyone talking about Breaking Bad. We get it, it's a great show, now let me watch the Walking Dead and Sons of Anarchy in peace!

Mkavanaugh77

Walking dead this season has been pretty boring imo. (not much going on) SOns Of Anarchy though is amazing. I think I like it more than Breaking Bad, its that good.

I thought season 3 of walking dead (so far, haven't seen it all yet) has been way better than season 2. And yeah, Sons of Anarchy is awesome.

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#119 JML897
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The last few pages of this thread sure have been something I'm going to pretend I never read that post where someone says Dexter is better than Breaking Bad
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#120 DharmaMember77
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[QUOTE="Hate_Squad"]

you can tell that its a great show by the fact that very few women watch it,when something is liked by a big percentage of the female population then something is wrong with it.women should stay to the walking dead or game of thrones

GOGOGOGURT

 

Actually, this is accurate as f*ck.

Not at all and you should feel ashamed if you actually think this way.

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[QUOTE="Mkavanaugh77"][QUOTE="redstorm72"]

My god am I getting sick of everyone talking about Breaking Bad. We get it, it's a great show, now let me watch the Walking Dead and Sons of Anarchy in peace!

redstorm72

Walking dead this season has been pretty boring imo. (not much going on) SOns Of Anarchy though is amazing. I think I like it more than Breaking Bad, its that good.

I thought season 3 of walking dead (so far, haven't seen it all yet) has been way better than season 2. And yeah, Sons of Anarchy is awesome.

TWD season 3 was good up to the first half, then it took a drastic fall. It still pisses me off that the governor is still alive when they have so much source material from the comics to utilize.
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#122 dave123321
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[QUOTE="johnd13"]

[QUOTE="dave123321"] For some Dexter is better overall. No problem with thatShadowsDemon

You speak the truth.

I agree. For me Dexter is waaaaaay better than BB, and carries a lot more meaning. I know I'm going to get flamed by the usual OT "superiors" for having my own opinion....

People just seem unable to let things go and move on. the OT elitists can be annoying
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#123 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"] It's not.

heeweesRus

I don't mean to defend him but GoT actually is rated slightly higher than Breaking Bad on imdb. GoT also beat out BB in hulu's best tv shows tournament it was having recently.

imbd is irrelevant. Metacritic is the industry standard for review aggregates. Therefor Breaking Bad >>>>>>Game of Thrones.

So Metacritic somehow defines your tastes and IMBD has no say? :lol: Oh please. Even if that was the case, it doesn't automatically mean BB is better than GoT. I honestly fail to see how any TV show in history can measure up to GoT.
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#124 dave123321
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[QUOTE="JML897"]The last few pages of this thread sure have been something I'm going to pretend I never read that post where someone says Dexter is better than Breaking Bad

For some Dexter is better overall. No problem with that
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#125 johnd13
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[QUOTE="JML897"]The last few pages of this thread sure have been something I'm going to pretend I never read that post where someone says Dexter is better than Breaking Baddave123321
For some Dexter is better overall. No problem with that

You speak the truth.

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#126 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="JML897"]The last few pages of this thread sure have been something I'm going to pretend I never read that post where someone says Dexter is better than Breaking Badjohnd13

For some Dexter is better overall. No problem with that

You speak the truth.

I agree. For me Dexter is waaaaaay better than BB, and carries a lot more meaning. I know I'm going to get flamed by the usual OT "superiors" for having my own opinion....
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#127 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="johnd13"]

You speak the truth.

dave123321
I agree. For me Dexter is waaaaaay better than BB, and carries a lot more meaning. I know I'm going to get flamed by the usual OT "superiors" for having my own opinion....

People just seem unable to let things go and move on. the OT elitists can be annoying

They sure as hell can...it's like they need to have that extra nudge in every thread with their superior attitude that they're above all others. And it's over a TV show; it's a matter of opinion, not fact.
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#128 dave123321
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] I agree. For me Dexter is waaaaaay better than BB, and carries a lot more meaning. I know I'm going to get flamed by the usual OT "superiors" for having my own opinion....

People just seem unable to let things go and move on. the OT elitists can be annoying

They sure as hell can...it's like they need to have that extra nudge in every thread with their superior attitude that they're above all others. And it's over a TV show; it's a matter of opinion, not fact.

Am sure some will come in and try and argue against the value of opinions and for 'objective' review
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#129 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="dave123321"] People just seem unable to let things go and move on. the OT elitists can be annoying

They sure as hell can...it's like they need to have that extra nudge in every thread with their superior attitude that they're above all others. And it's over a TV show; it's a matter of opinion, not fact.

Am sure some will come in and try and argue against the value of opinions and for 'objective' review

Of course. They can't let it go, even if it's a simple 'no' or 'deal with it' post.
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[QUOTE="johnd13"]

[QUOTE="dave123321"] For some Dexter is better overall. No problem with thatShadowsDemon

You speak the truth.

I agree. For me Dexter is waaaaaay better than BB, and carries a lot more meaning. I know I'm going to get flamed by the usual OT "superiors" for having my own opinion....

I was a huge Dexter fan, but I turned a friend of mine onto Dexter and he told me to watch Breaking Bad. I told him BB was not going to be better than Dexter.

Boy was I wrong!

While every season after the 1st of BB was outstanding (and the first season was very good as well), Dexter is spotty, and honestly? The best Seasons of Dexter are the first 2, which are undeniably excellent.

After that Dexter became formulaic and predictable, although Season 4 was excellent as well, largely because of John Lithgows great performance as the Trinity killer. The best part of Season 6 (which was an ok season) was the revelation in the final minute of the last episode. All you really needed from that entire Season.

While i'm just hanging on with Dexter to finish the series, I can't waitfor the rest of Season 5 of BB, and I'm very sad this will be the last season.

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#131 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="johnd13"]

You speak the truth.

AFBrat77

I agree. For me Dexter is waaaaaay better than BB, and carries a lot more meaning. I know I'm going to get flamed by the usual OT "superiors" for having my own opinion....

I was a huge Dexter fan, but I turned a friend of mine onto Dexter and he told me to watch Breaking Bad. I told him BB was not going to be better than Dexter.

Boy was I wrong!

While every season after the 1st of BB was outstanding (and the first season was very good as well), Dexter is spotty, and honestly? The best Seasons of Dexter are the first 2, which are undeniably excellent.

After that Dexter became formulaic and predictable, although Season 4 was excellent as well, largely because of John Lithgows great performance as the Trinity killer. The best part of Season 6 (which was an ok season) was the revelation in the final minute of the last episode. All you really needed from that entire Season.

While i'm just hanging on with Dexter to finish the series, I can't waitfor the rest of Season 5 of BB, and I'm very sad this will be the last season.

Fair enough, and I'm looking forward to the end of BB as well, but for me Dexter is the better series.
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Its my favorite show of all time. I'm sad to see it end this year but I'd like to see it go off on a good note than it getting milked and overdone.

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#133 sammyjenkis898
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Breaking Bad is a show that feels like it has an overarching organic arc throughout. The suspense/action doesn't happen until the writing has made a logical buildup. It's a show with balls and encompasses everything that's great about television. It will take an entire episode to focus on a fly. Hate it or not, that's not something Dexter would ever do. The only other show currently that can be compared with it is Mad Men, and even that show doesn't reach the highs of Breaking Bad.

Dexter is a show that seems to have a "big bad" every season, and, more often than not, seems to press the reset button after every season instead of taking risks. It being a show on Showtime, the show has gone past its prime and continues to repeat its worn-out formula each season. Although this is coming from someone that jumped ship mid-Season five, so I can't comment on the rest in detail (although I do know a few major plot points that happen).

This is coming from someone that used to be head-over-heels in love with Dexter.

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#134 dave123321
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I am happy that there has been actual substance added to the debate the last several posts
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#135 ShadowsDemon
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Its my favorite show of all time. I'm sad to see it end this year but I'd like to see it go off on a good note than it getting milked and overdone.

BPoole96
I'd say it has been overdone a tad in all honesty.
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Its my favorite show of all time. I'm sad to see it end this year but I'd like to see it go off on a good note than it getting milked and overdone.

ShadowsDemon

I'd say it has been overdone a tad in all honesty.

How do you figure?

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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

I don't mean to defend him but GoT actually is rated slightly higher than Breaking Bad on imdb. GoT also beat out BB in hulu's best tv shows tournament it was having recently.

ShadowsDemon

imbd is irrelevant. Metacritic is the industry standard for review aggregates. Therefor Breaking Bad >>>>>>Game of Thrones.

So Metacritic somehow defines your tastes and IMBD has no say? :lol: Oh please. Even if that was the case, it doesn't automatically mean BB is better than GoT. I honestly fail to see how any TV show in history can measure up to GoT.

Then you have shit taste. BB =Greatest show ever(fact).

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#138 JML897
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I guess I just don't understand how someone can say Breaking Bad is "overdone" and then have a Dexter signature
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#139 Ugalde-
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Its sucks I started watching the show and loved it. Ran out of episodes to watch on Netflix and then they added more. Now I cant remember where I was and feel like I kind of have to start all over. You guys are reminding me of how great the show is so I will probably have to start watching soon.
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#140 Ugalde-
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="johnd13"]

You speak the truth.

AFBrat77

I agree. For me Dexter is waaaaaay better than BB, and carries a lot more meaning. I know I'm going to get flamed by the usual OT "superiors" for having my own opinion....

I was a huge Dexter fan, but I turned a friend of mine onto Dexter and he told me to watch Breaking Bad. I told him BB was not going to be better than Dexter.

Boy was I wrong!

While every season after the 1st of BB was outstanding (and the first season was very good as well), Dexter is spotty, and honestly? The best Seasons of Dexter are the first 2, which are undeniably excellent.

After that Dexter became formulaic and predictable, although Season 4 was excellent as well, largely because of John Lithgows great performance as the Trinity killer. The best part of Season 6 (which was an ok season) was the revelation in the final minute of the last episode. All you really needed from that entire Season.

While i'm just hanging on with Dexter to finish the series, I can't waitfor the rest of Season 5 of BB, and I'm very sad this will be the last season.

As a huge Dexter fan and a alright BB fan I have to agree. Dexter kind of has this heres drama but everything will be fine going on where BB stuff happens that you would never expect. Love Dexter though probably have watched it to many times, thats why its gotten tireing lol.
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#141 DharmaMember77
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Dexter is the only character you care about in the show which was ok during the first few seasons when it was all about him but then some terrible subplots started forming in later seasons and that's when it really went downhill.

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#142 jamejame
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Literally the best thing I've seen on a television set, film or otherwise. I've never seen a character arc so expertly realized and played out to the point that it seems like they knew the exact direction the series would be in seasons later while writing the first season. Interviews revealed that they were mostly spitballing, so that's quite a damn feat. I'm both excited and worried about the final 8 episodes. Breaking Bad has yet to let me down in any way whatsoever, but there seems to be quite a lot to wrap up in natural and organic manner for 8 episodes. But I'm sure it will be done justice.

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#143 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="heeweesRus"] imbd is irrelevant. Metacritic is the industry standard for review aggregates. Therefor Breaking Bad >>>>>>Game of Thrones.

heeweesRus

So Metacritic somehow defines your tastes and IMBD has no say? :lol: Oh please. Even if that was the case, it doesn't automatically mean BB is better than GoT. I honestly fail to see how any TV show in history can measure up to GoT.

Then you have shit taste. BB =Greatest show ever(fact).

So in short: I'm wrong, you're right, because a site tells you? Got it.
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#144 AFBrat77
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Dexter is the only character you care about in the show which was ok during the first few seasons when it was all about him but then some terrible subplots started forming in later seasons and that's when it really went downhill.

DharmaMember77

Anybody else get turned on when Jennifer Carpenter (Deb) uses her potty mouth?

Yeah, again, I'd say Dexter was a great show....well, the first 2 seasons (and despite Lila). Its a lot more formulaic and predictable than BB.

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#145 KHAndAnime
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Literally the best thing I've seen on a television set, film or otherwise. I've never seen a character arc so expertly realized and played out to the point that it seems like they knew the exact direction the series would be in seasons later while writing the first season. Interviews revealed that they were mostly spitballing, so that's quite a damn feat. I'm both excited and worried about the final 8 episodes. Breaking Bad has yet to let me down in any way whatsoever, but there seems to be quite a lot to wrap up in natural and organic manner for 8 episodes. But I'm sure it will be done justice.

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^ What this guy said. This show elevated my concept of what a good TV show can really be. All aspects of the show are flawless. It's surprising how many shows have cringe-worthy writing, and how distinguished Breaking Bad is when compared to them.
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#146 AFBrat77
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Breaking Bad is a show that feels like it has an overarching organic arc throughout. The suspense/action doesn't happen until the writing has made a logical buildup. It's a show with balls and encompasses everything that's great about television. It will take an entire episode to focus on a fly. Hate it or not, that's not something Dexter would ever do. The only other show currently that can be compared with it is Mad Men, and even that show doesn't reach the highs of Breaking Bad.

Dexter is a show that seems to have a "big bad" every season, and, more often than not, seems to press the reset button after every season instead of taking risks. It being a show on Showtime, the show has gone past its prime and continues to repeat its worn-out formula each season. Although this is coming from someone that jumped ship mid-Season five, so I can't comment on the rest in detail (although I do know a few major plot points that happen).

This is coming from someone that used to be head-over-heels in love with Dexter.

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First time I saw that episode I didn't like it, 2nd and 3rd time I saw it, I absolutely loved it! I would still say the 3rd Season of BB has been the best.

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#147 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

Dexter is the only character you care about in the show which was ok during the first few seasons when it was all about him but then some terrible subplots started forming in later seasons and that's when it really went downhill.

AFBrat77

Anybody else get turned on when Jennifer Carpenter (Deb) uses her potty mouth?

Yeah, again, I'd say Dexter was a great show....well, the first 2 seasons (and despite Lila). Its a lot more formulaic and predictable than BB.

Not really. I could have seen where everything in BB was heading a mile away, other than a few twists.
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#148 dave123321
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Oh yeah. Much prefer BB over Dexter. By a very large margin.
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Bates Motel reminds me of Braking Bad even though Bates Motel is mediocre. I try not to think about Braking Bad too much because I was in a trippy phase when i watched season 1 - 4 and it brings back memories. the last season was awesome i watched all 8 episode premieres, why would they keep the fans on edge for a full year :( aren't the next 8 episodes already recorded but on hold until the release in the summer?
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#150 jamejame
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Bates Motel reminds me of Braking Bad even though Bates Motel is mediocre. I try not to think about Braking Bad too much because I was in a trippy phase when i watched season 1 - 4 and it brings back memories. the last season was awesome i watched all 8 episode premieres, why would they keep the fans on edge for a full year :( aren't the next 8 episodes already recorded but on hold until the release in the summer?playmynutz
Well yes, but they just recently finished filming them in March. Why they're on hold until July is anyone's guess -- AMC likely wants the DVD sales of the first part of season 5 a little higher as a result of the wait.