So uhh...Breaking Bad is...

[QUOTE="playmynutz"]Bates Motel reminds me of Braking Bad even though Bates Motel is mediocre. I try not to think about Braking Bad too much because I was in a trippy phase when i watched season 1 - 4 and it brings back memories. the last season was awesome i watched all 8 episode premieres, why would they keep the fans on edge for a full year :( aren't the next 8 episodes already recorded but on hold until the release in the summer?jamejame

well this thread took a different turn.

am not amused.

well this thread took a different turn.

am not amused.

konvikt_17

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

Dexter is the only character you care about in the show which was ok during the first few seasons when it was all about him but then some terrible subplots started forming in later seasons and that's when it really went downhill.

ShadowsDemon

Anybody else get turned on when Jennifer Carpenter (Deb) uses her potty mouth?

Yeah, again, I'd say Dexter was a great show....well, the first 2 seasons (and despite Lila). Its a lot more formulaic and predictable than BB.

Considering that in damn near every comment I've seen you make about BB (not just in this thread, but in other) you've completely misunderstood it I highly doubt that.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

Anybody else get turned on when Jennifer Carpenter (Deb) uses her potty mouth?

Yeah, again, I'd say Dexter was a great show....well, the first 2 seasons (and despite Lila). Its a lot more formulaic and predictable than BB.

worlock77

Considering that in damn near every comment I've seen you make about BB (not just in this thread, but in other) you've completely misunderstood it I highly doubt that.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Not really. I could have seen where everything in BB was heading a mile away, other than a few twists.ShadowsDemon

Considering that in damn near every comment I've seen you make about BB (not just in this thread, but in other) you've completely misunderstood it I highly doubt that.

I have no problem with differing opinions, but you really haven't understood the show at all. That you think the series should have ended at "I won", for example, is glaring proof of that.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]I have no problem with differing opinions, but you really haven't understood the show at all. That you think the series should have ended at "I won", for example, is glaring proof of that.ShadowsDemon

Ending the show after the conclusion of season 4 would have been one of the worst possible things Breaking Bad could do. The whole show has been leading to Walt's downfall yet you wanted the show to end with an episode that is the opposite of that.

Worlock was right. Finishing out the story that the show's creators intended to tell from the beginning is not in any way "milking the show".

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Considering that in damn near every comment I've seen you make about BB (not just in this thread, but in other) you've completely misunderstood it I highly doubt that.

worlock77

I have no problem with differing opinions, but you really haven't understood the show at all. That you think the series should have ended at "I won", for example, is glaring proof of that.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Considering that in damn near every comment I've seen you make about BB (not just in this thread, but in other) you've completely misunderstood it I highly doubt that.

worlock77

I have no problem with differing opinions, but you really haven't understood the show at all. That you think the series should have ended at "I won", for example, is glaring proof of that.

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] So Metacritic somehow defines your tastes and IMBD has no say? :lol: Oh please. Even if that was the case, it doesn't automatically mean BB is better than GoT. I honestly fail to see how any TV show in history can measure up to GoT. ShadowsDemon

Unrelated but still https://twitter.com/search?q=Ricin&src=tren

I think Pokemon is better than Breaking Bad. 

I think Pokemon is better than Breaking Bad. 

CHOASXIII

I think Pokemon is better than Breaking Bad. 

CHOASXIII

[QUOTE="CHOASXIII"]

I think Pokemon is better than Breaking Bad. 

KHAndAnime

I like Evil Dead therefore I'd love Lost in Translation. 

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="CHOASXIII"]

I think Pokemon is better than Breaking Bad. 

jesuschristmonk

[QUOTE="dave123321"]@shadow I do kind of see merit in the argument that you may have missed what the show has been working towards if you feel any movement beyond season four would have been milking the series. It would seem that this would be ignoring the fact that certain plot pints and developments would have been for nothing. One of the bigger ones being Hank and Walt. Finishing the story you set out to tell isn't milking.ShadowsDemon

The whole point of the show is to transform this mild-mannered, kind of a whimp of a teacher into basically Tony goddamn Montana. If you haven't been able to see the show building up to that then yeah, you've not understood it.

I know, but I honestly don't want to see Walt's downfall. He was one of my favourite characters on TV and now he's a complete arsehole...but then again I suppose that's part of what makes BB good. GoT is still better though. ;)ShadowsDemon

[spoiler] I mean he purposely allowed Jane to die just because it was convenient for him. He got worse and worse but if you were still thinking he was awesome at that point, you're pretty odd. [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] I know, but I honestly don't want to see Walt's downfall. He was one of my favourite characters on TV and now he's a complete arsehole...but then again I suppose that's part of what makes BB good. GoT is still better though. ;)cain006

[spoiler] I mean he purposely allowed Jane to die just because it was convenient for him. He got worse and worse but if you were still thinking he was awesome at that point, you're pretty odd. [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="dave123321"]@shadow I do kind of see merit in the argument that you may have missed what the show has been working towards if you feel any movement beyond season four would have been milking the series. It would seem that this would be ignoring the fact that certain plot pints and developments would have been for nothing. One of the bigger ones being Hank and Walt. Finishing the story you set out to tell isn't milking.worlock77

The whole point of the show is to transform this mild-mannered, kind of a whimp of a teacher into basically Tony goddamn Montana. If you haven't been able to see the show building up to that then yeah, you've not understood it.

[QUOTE="cain006"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] I know, but I honestly don't want to see Walt's downfall. He was one of my favourite characters on TV and now he's a complete arsehole...but then again I suppose that's part of what makes BB good. GoT is still better though. ;)KHAndAnime

[spoiler] I mean he purposely allowed Jane to die just because it was convenient for him. He got worse and worse but if you were still thinking he was awesome at that point, you're pretty odd. [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="cain006"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] I know, but I honestly don't want to see Walt's downfall. He was one of my favourite characters on TV and now he's a complete arsehole...but then again I suppose that's part of what makes BB good. GoT is still better though. ;)KHAndAnime

[spoiler] I mean he purposely allowed Jane to die just because it was convenient for him. He got worse and worse but if you were still thinking he was awesome at that point, you're pretty odd. [/spoiler]

[spoiler] Regardless of whether she was a disgusting person or he was doing Jesse a favor, standing back watching someone choke on their own vomit while doing nothing is the behavior of a pretty disgusting person. Really, on the "disgusting-person-o-meter" I'd say Walt ranks much higher than Jane did. [/spoiler]

Also, to whoever praised the episode "Fly" and how good it was, I'll just leave it at this.

ShadowsDemon

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="cain006"]Walt was an asshole in season two.

[spoiler] I mean he purposely allowed Jane to die just because it was convenient for him. He got worse and worse but if you were still thinking he was awesome at that point, you're pretty odd. [/spoiler]

worlock77

[spoiler] Regardless of whether she was a disgusting person or he was doing Jesse a favor, standing back watching someone choke on their own vomit while doing nothing is the behavior of a pretty disgusting person. Really, on the "disgusting-person-o-meter" I'd say Walt ranks much higher than Jane did. [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] [spoiler] I think everyone wanted Jane to die. Ultimately, as ****ed up as it sounds, Walt was doing Jesse a favor. It was obvious even within the context of the show that she was a disgusting person. She'd probably be dead within a short amount of time anyways given the state of her addictions and the new money source. [/spoiler] cain006

[spoiler] Regardless of whether she was a disgusting person or he was doing Jesse a favor, standing back watching someone choke on their own vomit while doing nothing is the behavior of a pretty disgusting person. Really, on the "disgusting-person-o-meter" I'd say Walt ranks much higher than Jane did. [/spoiler]

Also, to whoever praised the episode "Fly" and how good it was, I'll just leave it at this.

Also, to whoever praised the episode "Fly" and how good it was, I'll just leave it at this.

ShadowsDemon

[QUOTE="cain006"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[spoiler] Regardless of whether she was a disgusting person or he was doing Jesse a favor, standing back watching someone choke on their own vomit while doing nothing is the behavior of a pretty disgusting person. Really, on the "disgusting-person-o-meter" I'd say Walt ranks much higher than Jane did. [/spoiler]

ShadowsDemon

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="cain006"]Walt was an asshole in season two.

[spoiler] I mean he purposely allowed Jane to die just because it was convenient for him. He got worse and worse but if you were still thinking he was awesome at that point, you're pretty odd. [/spoiler]

worlock77

[spoiler] Regardless of whether she was a disgusting person or he was doing Jesse a favor, standing back watching someone choke on their own vomit while doing nothing is the behavior of a pretty disgusting person. Really, on the "disgusting-person-o-meter" I'd say Walt ranks much higher than Jane did. [/spoiler]

I honestly don't consider it disgusting, just morally ambiguous. Doing the right thing at the wrong time can cause more damage to everyone than doing the wrong thing at the right time. Walt can't see the future, but he can make the rather obvious deduction that meth/heroin junkies are likely to die given an unlimited source of meth/heroin.

The plane crash was circumstantial, though directly resulting from Walt's choice. [/spoiler]

edit: Rephrased. Is playing "god" in a situation that disgusting if you make choices that give benefit to the majority? I easily see it as a lose/lose situation - Walt simply had to decide which action (or lack of) would be the greater loss.

[QUOTE="cain006"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[spoiler] Regardless of whether she was a disgusting person or he was doing Jesse a favor, standing back watching someone choke on their own vomit while doing nothing is the behavior of a pretty disgusting person. Really, on the "disgusting-person-o-meter" I'd say Walt ranks much higher than Jane did. [/spoiler]

ShadowsDemon

[spoiler] Turning her head so that she doesn't choke on her own vomit would have been good. Anyone above the age of 10 should know this. A person vomiting while unconcious isn't necessarily OD'ing ether, anymore than a drunk person vomiting over the toilet is OD'ing. Use of drugs and alcohol can upset the stomach and cause one to vomit. Normal it's not much of an issue. You find the nearest toilet or bucket (if avalible) and let it flow. If you're asleep, however, it can be fatal. [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="cain006"]This. Walt's a horrible person.

worlock77

[spoiler] Turning her head so that she doesn't choke on her own vomit would have been good. Anyone above the age of 10 should know this. A person vomiting while unconcious isn't necessarily OD'ing ether, anymore than a drunk person vomiting over the toilet is OD'ing. Use of drugs and alcohol can upset the stomach and cause one to vomit. Normal it's not much of an issue. You find the nearest toilet or bucket (if avalible) and let it flow. If you're asleep, however, it can be fatal. [/spoiler]

You can clearly see his immediate impulse was to turn her over but then after thinking about it decided not to. They even showed an earlier scene where Marie was showing Walt how to put the baby on her side so she won't gag so it wasn't a matter of Walt not knowing how to handle the situation.

Also looks like April 11th will mark the return date of Breaking Bad.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] [spoiler] I think everyone wanted Jane to die. Ultimately, as ****ed up as it sounds, Walt was doing Jesse a favor. It was obvious even within the context of the show that she was a disgusting person. She'd probably be dead within a short amount of time anyways given the state of her addictions and the new money source. [/spoiler] KHAndAnime

[spoiler] Regardless of whether she was a disgusting person or he was doing Jesse a favor, standing back watching someone choke on their own vomit while doing nothing is the behavior of a pretty disgusting person. Really, on the "disgusting-person-o-meter" I'd say Walt ranks much higher than Jane did. [/spoiler]

I honestly don't consider it disgusting, just morally ambiguous. Doing the right thing at the wrong time can cause more damage to everyone than doing the wrong thing at the right time. Walt can't see the future, but he can make the rather obvious deduction that meth/heroin junkies are likely to die given an unlimited source of meth/heroin.

The plane crash was circumstantial, though directly resulting from Walt's choice. [/spoiler]

edit: Rephrased. Is playing "god" in a situation that disgusting if you make choices that give benefit to the majority? I easily see it as a lose/lose situation - Walt simply had to decide which action (or lack of) would be the greater loss.

Do you really think Walt made a decision for the benefit of the majority there?

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[spoiler] Regardless of whether she was a disgusting person or he was doing Jesse a favor, standing back watching someone choke on their own vomit while doing nothing is the behavior of a pretty disgusting person. Really, on the "disgusting-person-o-meter" I'd say Walt ranks much higher than Jane did. [/spoiler]

worlock77

I honestly don't consider it disgusting, just morally ambiguous. Doing the right thing at the wrong time can cause more damage to everyone than doing the wrong thing at the right time. Walt can't see the future, but he can make the rather obvious deduction that meth/heroin junkies are likely to die given an unlimited source of meth/heroin.

The plane crash was circumstantial, though directly resulting from Walt's choice. [/spoiler]

edit: Rephrased. Is playing "god" in a situation that disgusting if you make choices that give benefit to the majority? I easily see it as a lose/lose situation - Walt simply had to decide which action (or lack of) would be the greater loss.

Do you really think Walt made a decision for the benefit of the majority there?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] [spoiler] Walt sacrificed a life to save a life. Walt knew they would both be dead junkies within a short amount of time if he saved her, which is a much more disgusting alternative if you ask me.

I honestly don't consider it disgusting, just morally ambiguous. Doing the right thing at the wrong time can cause more damage to everyone than doing the wrong thing at the right time. Walt can't see the future, but he can make the rather obvious deduction that meth/heroin junkies are likely to die given an unlimited source of meth/heroin.

The plane crash was circumstantial, though directly resulting from Walt's choice. [/spoiler]

edit: Rephrased. Is playing "god" in a situation that disgusting if you make choices that give benefit to the majority? I easily see it as a lose/lose situation - Walt simply had to decide which action (or lack of) would be the greater loss.

dave123321

Do you really think Walt made a decision for the benefit of the majority there?

[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Do you really think Walt made a decision for the benefit of the majority there?

KHAndAnime

Considering some of the shit Walt's pulled I doubt he's really all that concered with Jesse's welfare for Jesse's own sake, but more so that he has a partner he can control.

[spoiler] Shit like, for instance, poisoning Jesse's girlfriend's kid and blaming it on Gustavo, when he saw that Jesse was gaining favor with Gus. [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] [spoiler] I think everyone wanted Jane to die. Ultimately, as ****ed up as it sounds, Walt was doing Jesse a favor. It was obvious even within the context of the show that she was a disgusting person. She'd probably be dead within a short amount of time anyways given the state of her addictions and the new money source. [/spoiler] KHAndAnime

[spoiler] Regardless of whether she was a disgusting person or he was doing Jesse a favor, standing back watching someone choke on their own vomit while doing nothing is the behavior of a pretty disgusting person. Really, on the "disgusting-person-o-meter" I'd say Walt ranks much higher than Jane did. [/spoiler]

I honestly don't consider it disgusting, just morally ambiguous. Doing the right thing at the wrong time can cause more damage to everyone than doing the wrong thing at the right time. Walt can't see the future, but he can make the rather obvious deduction that meth/heroin junkies are likely to die given an unlimited source of meth/heroin.

The plane crash was circumstantial, though directly resulting from Walt's choice. [/spoiler]

edit: Rephrased. Is playing "god" in a situation that disgusting if you make choices that give benefit to the majority? I easily see it as a lose/lose situation - Walt simply had to decide which action (or lack of) would be the greater loss.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] I know, but I honestly don't want to see Walt's downfall. He was one of my favourite characters on TV and now he's a complete arsehole...but then again I suppose that's part of what makes BB good. ShadowsDemon

The whole point of the show is to transform this mild-mannered, kind of a whimp of a teacher into basically Tony goddamn Montana. If you haven't been able to see the show building up to that then yeah, you've not understood it.

No

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="dave123321"] mhm, it was a pretty selfish act in his part I felt. Self-preservation rather then dealing with the consequences of his actionsworlock77

Considering some of the shit Walt's pulled I doubt he's really all that concered with Jesse's welfare for Jesse's own sake, but more so that he has a partner he can control.

[spoiler] Shit like, for instance, poisoning Jesse's girlfriend's kid and blaming it on Gustavo, when he saw that Jesse was gaining favor with Gus. [/spoiler]

The Walt/Jesse relationship is a complex one, and there's much more to it that Walt just using Jesse for his own benefit. From the conversation with Donald at the bar, you could tell that Walt had paternal feelings for Jesse and that's what compelled him to go to Jesse's house - he didn't like the direction he was heading in with all that drug use. He did try to genuinely help him, something just went horribly wrong in the process.

Jane would have probably overdosed sooner or later the way she was going and the plane crash may probably still have happened.
[/spoiler]

Also, to whoever praised the episode "Fly" and how good it was, I'll just leave it at this.

ShadowsDemon

The Fly was a great episode........just remember Walt was losing his mind in that episode, mucho stress. He ALMOST spilled the beans on his connection to Jane's death.....sooooo close. Jesse would have killed him.