Soldier uses Koran as target for shooting practise

If people made the news for everytime a US flag was desecrated . . . . . . sonicare

I think the soldier is an ass and I am glad he got sent home because crap like that could start unneccessary conflict.

We already have enough problems with people thinking of us Americans as ignorant and now we have this idiot......

[QUOTE="sonicare"]If people made the news for everytime a US flag was desecrated . . . . . . waleedarshad

They are both symbols of importance to various people. I fail to see why you don't see that.

[QUOTE="waleedarshad"][QUOTE="sonicare"]If people made the news for everytime a US flag was desecrated . . . . . . LJS9502_basic

They are both symbols of importance to various people. I fail to see why you don't see that.

Seconded.

Who cares. They is not a whole lot of random things to shoot at haha I'm jk.

He probably shouldn't have done it. But whatever really.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Ok. And the point of mentioning this was? Not everyone has the same values. :|dominer

So we should be inconsiderate to each other?

its guess its ok for me to beat your mom with a baseball bat because I dont value her.

yea people's values are different, but we shouldnt do crap like this.

I bet there wouldn't be a big fuss like this if it was a christian bible found shot up and graffiti all over it. That is rediculous the things they come of with, in todays modern society were religion is taking a back step you cant go all huffy over something like that. But hey well down to the soldier he got himself out of that hell hole without having to shoot himself lol he is a smart guy wonder how many more insidents like this will happen.RiseAgainst12

You're right it is a double standard, but then again it's an uneven situation. If a Christian Bible was found shot up in a Christian country that was occupied by Muslims, you could bet your ass people would be pissed about it.

Whatever he shot a book and his sent home for it.Thats like stabbing a math book and getting suspended.

Well I dont want to make this even more of a religious thread, but I'm betting that all the people here that say, its just a book, are either athiests or really ignorant. It is way more than a book, its their way of life. They spend their entire lives following the text from that book, and pray daily like 4 times a day. Suicide bombers died in the name of book, and many more would do the same. I'm positive no one here cares about something that much so how can you degrade it to "just a book"?

The soldier shouldn't be punished! he has saw his friends die in the name of that book so of course he won't see much respect for it.RiseAgainst12

First of all, from what I read they didn't reveal his name so how it is you know that his friends died over there is a mystery to me (Casualties right now are pretty low). And it's not just disrespect for the book, or for terrorists or whatever, it's disrespect for the people we're occupying. Not the biggest deal in the world maybe, but if you act like an ass you get treated like one I guess.

I find it funny how no one cares if he shot the Koran but if he shot the Bible, there would be protesters greeting him back to America. Pathetic. nintendorocks

What if he shot a wii?

[QUOTE="nintendorocks"]I find it funny how no one cares if he shot the Koran but if he shot the Bible, there would be protesters greeting him back to America. Pathetic. sonicare

What if he shot a wii?

Well, then he would probably be met with a bunch of cosplaying 11 year olds.

Well I dont want to make this even more of a religious thread, but I'm betting that all the people here that say, its just a book, are either athiests or really ignorant. It is way more than a book, its their way of life. They spend their entire lives following the text from that book, and pray daily like 4 times a day. Suicide bombers died in the name of book, and many more would do the same. I'm positive no one here cares about something that much so how can you degrade it to "just a book"?

Penguin_dragon

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

[QUOTE="nintendorocks"]I find it funny how no one cares if he shot the Koran but if he shot the Bible, there would be protesters greeting him back to America. Pathetic. nintendorocks

What if he shot a wii?

Well, then he would probably be met with a bunch of cosplaying 11 year olds.

LOL

Well I dont want to make this even more of a religious thread, but I'm betting that all the people here that say, its just a book, are either athiests or really ignorant. It is way more than a book, its their way of life. They spend their entire lives following the text from that book, and pray daily like 4 times a day. Suicide bombers died in the name of book, and many more would do the same. I'm positive no one here cares about something that much so how can you degrade it to "just a book"?

Penguin_dragon

They pray 5 times a day*

They die in the name of god (which I think is total bs regardless)

and you're right. Those that don't see the significance of this soldiers actions are either athiests, ignorant, or just blindly hate islam.

[QUOTE="Penguin_dragon"]

Well I dont want to make this even more of a religious thread, but I'm betting that all the people here that say, its just a book, are either athiests or really ignorant. It is way more than a book, its their way of life. They spend their entire lives following the text from that book, and pray daily like 4 times a day. Suicide bombers died in the name of book, and many more would do the same. I'm positive no one here cares about something that much so how can you degrade it to "just a book"?

SolidSnake35

Well here is where you fail: Other people do care, millions of other people. They care alot more about the book than you could ever care about anything.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Penguin_dragon"]

Well I dont want to make this even more of a religious thread, but I'm betting that all the people here that say, its just a book, are either athiests or really ignorant. It is way more than a book, its their way of life. They spend their entire lives following the text from that book, and pray daily like 4 times a day. Suicide bombers died in the name of book, and many more would do the same. I'm positive no one here cares about something that much so how can you degrade it to "just a book"?

Penguin_dragon

Well here is where you fail: Other people do care, millions of other people. They care alot more about the book than you could ever care about anything.

[QUOTE="Penguin_dragon"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Penguin_dragon"]

Well I dont want to make this even more of a religious thread, but I'm betting that all the people here that say, its just a book, are either athiests or really ignorant. It is way more than a book, its their way of life. They spend their entire lives following the text from that book, and pray daily like 4 times a day. Suicide bombers died in the name of book, and many more would do the same. I'm positive no one here cares about something that much so how can you degrade it to "just a book"?

SolidSnake35

Well here is where you fail: Other people do care, millions of other people. They care alot more about the book than you could ever care about anything.

I'm christian and I care. And I'm pretty sure the people who are also arguing in this thread are also not muslim, yet they seem to care.

I'm christian and I care. And I'm pretty sure the people who are also arguing in this thread are also not muslim, yet they seem to care.Penguin_dragon

[QUOTE="Penguin_dragon"]I'm christian and I care. And I'm pretty sure the people who are also arguing in this thread are also not muslim, yet they seem to care.SolidSnake35

[QUOTE="sonicare"]If people made the news for everytime a US flag was desecrated . . . . . . waleedarshad

in my opinon the flag is more important than islam. the flag represents individual liberty which is more important than any religion as far as im concerned.

and someone's sacred beliefs are more important than one's nationality

dominer

I completely agree.

[QUOTE="sonicare"]If people made the news for everytime a US flag was desecrated . . . . . . waleedarshad

They are both very important to different people. It's pretty much the same thing.

Secondly, I'm not saying the soldier is right, but I can see why he would do that. He is probably stressed from risking his life fighting the terrorists who are fighting the war in the name of their religion. Out of anger, he decides to shoot through their religious book, without really thinking that hey, guys on my side have the same religion, and the religion isn't the problem. It's the extremists.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Penguin_dragon"]I'm christian and I care. And I'm pretty sure the people who are also arguing in this thread are also not muslim, yet they seem to care.C_BozkurT_C

[QUOTE="dominer"]

and someone's sacred beliefs are more important than one's nationality

iwokojance

I completely agree.

So you only believe in tolerance for what you consider important.:|

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Penguin_dragon"]I'm christian and I care. And I'm pretty sure the people who are also arguing in this thread are also not muslim, yet they seem to care.C_BozkurT_C

Then to those that hold it in esteem I'd suggest they not shoot it. But it meant nothing to the soldier.

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

[QUOTE="nintendorocks"]I find it funny how no one cares if he shot the Koran but if he shot the Bible, there would be protesters greeting him back to America. Pathetic. nintendorocks

What if he shot a wii?

Well, then he would probably be met with a bunch of cosplaying 11 year olds.

With their imported Pocky, katanas, and butchered Japanese swear words.

[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Penguin_dragon"]I'm christian and I care. And I'm pretty sure the people who are also arguing in this thread are also not muslim, yet they seem to care.LJS9502_basic

Then to those that hold it in esteem I'd suggest they not shoot it. But it meant nothing to the soldier.

You mean nothing to me. Can I shoot you?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Penguin_dragon"]I'm christian and I care. And I'm pretty sure the people who are also arguing in this thread are also not muslim, yet they seem to care.Penguin_dragon

Then to those that hold it in esteem I'd suggest they not shoot it. But it meant nothing to the soldier.

You mean nothing to me. Can I shoot you?

that dosent make sense, sorry.

hes not an object, hes a human being.

You mean nothing to me. Can I shoot you?

Penguin_dragon

Again with the analogy of harm to an actual PERSON vs an inanimate object. Not the same thing at all.:roll:

So what I throw bibles into the air and shoot them with a 12 guage occasionally, no big deal right?SunofVich

of course it isnt. its freedom of speech

[QUOTE="Penguin_dragon"]

You mean nothing to me. Can I shoot you?

LJS9502_basic

Again with the analogy of harm to an actual PERSON vs an inanimate object. Not the same thing at all.:roll:

Millions of people have been worshiping the words in that book and starting wars for it for decades, whereas you have probably done nothing to deserve anywhere near the respect that book gets. Your right its not the same thing, the book is way more important than a person.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Penguin_dragon"]

You mean nothing to me. Can I shoot you?

Penguin_dragon

Again with the analogy of harm to an actual PERSON vs an inanimate object. Not the same thing at all.:roll:

Millions of people have been worshiping the words in that book and starting wars for it for decades, whereas you have probably done nothing to deserve anywhere near the respect that book gets. Your right its not the same thing, the book is way more important than a person.

I haven't started any wars. ;)

Guess what...murder is illegal. Shooting a book is not. Guess I win this one.

the book is way more important than a person.

Penguin_dragon

No. I really hope you don't believe this statement, because a human life means WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than any book, no matter how important said book is to people of any amount.

[QUOTE="Penguin_dragon"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Penguin_dragon"]

You mean nothing to me. Can I shoot you?

LJS9502_basic

Again with the analogy of harm to an actual PERSON vs an inanimate object. Not the same thing at all.:roll:

Millions of people have been worshiping the words in that book and starting wars for it for decades, whereas you have probably done nothing to deserve anywhere near the respect that book gets. Your right its not the same thing, the book is way more important than a person.

I haven't started any wars. ;)

Guess what...murder is illegal. Shooting a book is not. Guess I win this one.

You haven't started any wars because no one would fight for you. And how do you win? This isn't about whether the book is good or bad, I personally believe its blasphamy, but that doesn't make it less important. My argument is that to play down such an important book to so many people is because all arguemnts so far are, "It's not important to me, why should I care?"

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Penguin_dragon"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Penguin_dragon"]

You mean nothing to me. Can I shoot you?

Penguin_dragon

Again with the analogy of harm to an actual PERSON vs an inanimate object. Not the same thing at all.:roll:

Millions of people have been worshiping the words in that book and starting wars for it for decades, whereas you have probably done nothing to deserve anywhere near the respect that book gets. Your right its not the same thing, the book is way more important than a person.

I haven't started any wars. ;)

Guess what...murder is illegal. Shooting a book is not. Guess I win this one.

You haven't started any wars because no one would fight for you. And how do you win? This isn't about whether the book is good or bad, I personally believe its blasphamy, but that doesn't make it less important. My argument is that to play down such an important book to so many people is because all arguemnts so far are, "It's not important to me, why should I care?"

the turner diaries are important to many people. is that more important than one humans life?

see how this book dosent matter to you? well it works like that with the koran with nonmuslims.

[QUOTE="Penguin_dragon"]

the book is way more important than a person.

Shiggums

No. I really hope you don't believe this statement, because a human life means WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than any book, no matter how important said book is to people of any amount.

What do you think the punishment would be if I go to Washington D.C. and light the original constitution on fire?