This topic is locked from further discussion.
I don't see what the issue hear is! You think the Iraqs are on the other side not disrespecting us? This is rediculous....KlownMaster
lol, well u r sort of in their country...im sure if russians sumhow managed to invade the US you would welcome them with open arms... :?
[QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"]He knew what he was doing. He completely deserves what he got.LJS9502_basic
He got to go home....
Good point...He's probably getting punishment other than that, though. I hope it teaches him not to be a disrespectful douche bag, but something tells me it won't.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"]He knew what he was doing. He completely deserves what he got.A_Tarkovsky
He got to go home....
Good point...He's probably getting punishment other than that, though. I hope it teaches him not to be a disrespectful, but something tells me it won't.
I doubt it considering the stress he was under. I find your last comment most interesting. It's okay to bash other religions...and countries but in this one instance disrespect is wrong.
[QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="A_Tarkovsky"]He knew what he was doing. He completely deserves what he got.LJS9502_basic
He got to go home....
Good point...He's probably getting punishment other than that, though. I hope it teaches him not to be a disrespectful, but something tells me it won't.
I doubt it considering the stress he was under. I find your last comment most interesting. It's okay to bash other religions...and countries but in this one instance disrespect is wrong.
It's not okay to bash other religions. Making fun of certain absurdities within the community is fine, but I think disrespecting the Koran and The Bible are equally objectionable.I don't see what the issue hear is! You think the Iraqs are on the other side not disrespecting us? This is rediculous....KlownMasterthis isn't just disrespectful toward Iraqis. It's disrespecting all Muslims (1.3 Billion people).
In the end it is a over-reaction in just about any other situation, EXCEPT This one.. The majority of the middle east already hates the United States, we have incidents like Abu Gharib.. The last thing we need is something like this happening.. Why? Because when we have snipers using the Koran as target practice and we have some collateral damage that was by accident, many will be denouncing the United States as enemies towards Islam.. its just more fuel to the fire.
And why is anti-Muslim OK on this site anyway? newman12-18theres anti everything here it would seem. Everyone has different beliefs. *shrugs* try not to take too much offence to it. I see a lot of things that are anti what i believe but its not personal attacks so *shrugs again*
[QUOTE="newman12-18"]And why is anti-Muslim OK on this site anyway? xhellcatxtheres anti everything here it would seem. Everyone has different beliefs. *shrugs* try not to take too much offence to it. I see a lot of things that are anti what i believe but its not personal attacks so *shrugs again*Its kinda hard not to when people are blatantly bashing your religion and saying you and your family are cavemen.
[QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="newman12-18"]And why is anti-Muslim OK on this site anyway? newman12-18theres anti everything here it would seem. Everyone has different beliefs. *shrugs* try not to take too much offence to it. I see a lot of things that are anti what i believe but its not personal attacks so *shrugs again*Its kinda hard not to when people are blatantly bashing your religion and saying you and your family are cavemen.
Internets = ANTI EVERYTHING!! =)
[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="KlownMaster"]I don't see what the issue hear is! You think the Iraqs are on the other side not disrespecting us? This is rediculous....KlownMaster
lol, well u r sort of in their country...im sure if russians sumhow managed to invade the US you would welcome them with open arms... :?
If it wasen't for us their country would suck even more **** than it already does...
yeah you're right, they are very thankful for the constant suicide bombings and the gangsters running amock in their cities :|
In the end it is a over-reaction in just about any other situation, EXCEPT This one.. The majority of the middle east already hates the United States, we have incidents like Abu Gharib.. The last thing we need is something like this happening.. Why? Because when we have snipers using the Koran as target practice and we have some collateral damage that was by accident, many will be denouncing the United States as enemies towards Islam.. its just more fuel to the fire.
sSubZerOo
eek!!! take your dirty logic and common sense out of this thread! :evil: :P
[QUOTE="carrot-cake"]Its a book.
Although, even though its still a book, it should be respected, because its one of the most holy things in Islam.
TirOrn
THE most holy thing in Islam.
Who cares in the end its just another form of freedom of speech.. The reason why they did what they did was cause of damage control.. Of all the huge screw ups of the war they the US government does not want to appear to the middle east as committing war on Islam, I guess most of you guys don't understand the art of DIPLOMACY....
While I normally endorse actively showing your contempt for organised religion (yeah I'm like that, but no matter how much I don't like your religion I won't bother telling you that in real life, nor will I ever attempt to take it from you...), the man should have used his goddam brain before doing something as stupid as that.
Hes in a Muslim country. Muslims tend to kill people who mock their religion. Stuff like this is just what the extremists want, more crap to incite more anger and recruit more dumb-ass Arab teenagers to die on the streets of Iraq fighting Americans, or more commonly, THEMSELVES!
I think the US military was justified in its actions. Freedom of speech has never really been on a military agenda to be honest, and America's military takes that to quite a hardline approach...
In the end it is a over-reaction in just about any other situation, EXCEPT This one.. The majority of the middle east already hates the United States, we have incidents like Abu Gharib.. The last thing we need is something like this happening.. Why? Because when we have snipers using the Koran as target practice and we have some collateral damage that was by accident, many will be denouncing the United States as enemies towards Islam.. its just more fuel to the fire.
sSubZerOo
Meh. They don't like us anyway. This incident isn't the reason and nothing we do will change that. And as we have the whole freedom of speech issue.....he had a right. Will those that follow Islam like it? No. But that is how freedom of speech works and I'm not for curtailing it to cater to someone who may get offended. Any given person can get offended any given day over any given statement.
To get a faint idea of how offended Muslims would be by this, picture the reaction of Christians if a man took a Cross and a picture of Jesus outside, took a massive **** on both of them, burned them, and taped it.
The Koran is the most important thing in the universe to Muslims. Shooting at one in a Muslim country is stupid and reckless beyond human comprehension.
Dracargen
Whats the point of getting angry? God will do what he sees fit we don't have to get angry or worry about it.
So what. Maybe it was a insult. What a bunch of cry babies. Mommy, some american shot at the Quran, oh my, what are we going to do...lets kill him or torture him or wipe out his family for dis-respecting Islam. PLEASE. This just makes me want to go down to the book store and buy one just so i can do nasty things to it.
Not to sound mean or anything, but why is it that people can sit here and diss on the bible, make fun of jesus christ, and say all they want about catholics and christians. No one ever gets in trouble, but the minute someone talks crap about the quran or allah they get all this crap from everybody. I think it is double standard and messed upxscrapzx
Because it actually takes intelligence to realize why they did that.. If you didn't notice the United States is widely hated through out the middle east now.. Through numerous mistakes.. The only way we are going to make it better is have an iron grip on such things and not allow our soldiers/forces/the US to appear to be against Islam as a religion when we ARE TRYING TO BUILD A NATION.. I would think you guys would understand this.
[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]Not to sound mean or anything, but why is it that people can sit here and diss on the bible, make fun of jesus christ, and say all they want about catholics and christians. No one ever gets in trouble, but the minute someone talks crap about the quran or allah they get all this crap from everybody. I think it is double standard and messed upsSubZerOo
Because it actually takes intelligence to realize why they did that.. If you didn't notice the United States is widely hated through out the middle east now.. Through numerous mistakes.. The only way we are going to make it better is have an iron grip on such things and not allow our soldiers/forces/the US to be against Islam as a religion when we ARE TRYING TO BUILD A NATION.. I would think you guys would understand this.
No I do understand this, but thanks for the advice. :|
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]Not to sound mean or anything, but why is it that people can sit here and diss on the bible, make fun of jesus christ, and say all they want about catholics and christians. No one ever gets in trouble, but the minute someone talks crap about the quran or allah they get all this crap from everybody. I think it is double standard and messed upxscrapzx
Because it actually takes intelligence to realize why they did that.. If you didn't notice the United States is widely hated through out the middle east now.. Through numerous mistakes.. The only way we are going to make it better is have an iron grip on such things and not allow our soldiers/forces/the US to be against Islam as a religion when we ARE TRYING TO BUILD A NATION.. I would think you guys would understand this.
No I do understand this, but thanks for the advice. :|
Yet you use a completely false comparison, and compared how one can treat the bible here too.. You can do the same to the Koran here, and no one will stop you.. The point of the matter is Iraq is a powder keg and the last thing we need is dumbasses like that setting it off in a delicate situation.
[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]Not to sound mean or anything, but why is it that people can sit here and diss on the bible, make fun of jesus christ, and say all they want about catholics and christians. No one ever gets in trouble, but the minute someone talks crap about the quran or allah they get all this crap from everybody. I think it is double standard and messed upsSubZerOo
Because it actually takes intelligence to realize why they did that.. If you didn't notice the United States is widely hated through out the middle east now.. Through numerous mistakes.. The only way we are going to make it better is have an iron grip on such things and not allow our soldiers/forces/the US to be against Islam as a religion when we ARE TRYING TO BUILD A NATION.. I would think you guys would understand this.
No I do understand this, but thanks for the advice. :|
Yet you use a completely false comparison, and compared how one can treat the bible here too.. You can do the same to the Koran here, and no one will stop you.. The point of the matter is Iraq is a powder keg and the last thing we need is dumbasses like that setting it off in a delicate situation.
How am I using false comparison? I know why the soldier is getting disciplined thats a no brainer because of the situation, but what I'm saying is in general. You have people who have made references to allah and then the whole damn world is up in arms likes it is the end of the world. Yet you have people who make fun of christrianity and I don't see the whole world going crazy asking for whoever made fun of them to be killed. Oh ya and maybe if there weren't so many dumbasses over there that thought it was cool to set the american flag on fire and jump up and down for joy when over 2000 people died on 9-11 but thats ok though, that wasn't a delicate situation. :roll:
Last time i checked he was disciplined by the Army.....So what. Maybe it was a insult. What a bunch of cry babies. Mommy, some american shot at the Quran, oh my, what are we going to do...lets kill him or torture him or wipe out his family for dis-respecting Islam. PLEASE. This just makes me want to go down to the book store and buy one just so i can do nasty things to it.
Videodogg
Not to sound mean or anything, but why is it that people can sit here and diss on the bible, make fun of jesus christ, and say all they want about catholics and christians. No one ever gets in trouble, but the minute someone talks crap about the quran or allah they get all this crap from everybody. I think it is double standard and messed upxscrapzxPeople Diss on the Qu'ran here all the time..... Its a tiny bit different when you are a soilder......
[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]Not to sound mean or anything, but why is it that people can sit here and diss on the bible, make fun of jesus christ, and say all they want about catholics and christians. No one ever gets in trouble, but the minute someone talks crap about the quran or allah they get all this crap from everybody. I think it is double standard and messed upkilltacticsPeople Diss on the Qu'ran here all the time..... Its a tiny bit different when you are a soilder......
emphasis on "tiny bit"
he only got sent home right? this is PR at its finest. Im sure they had a laugh about it before he got sent home, if anything im sure theyll have him back in a few weeks.
[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]Not to sound mean or anything, but why is it that people can sit here and diss on the bible, make fun of jesus christ, and say all they want about catholics and christians. No one ever gets in trouble, but the minute someone talks crap about the quran or allah they get all this crap from everybody. I think it is double standard and messed upkilltacticsPeople Diss on the Qu'ran here all the time..... Its a tiny bit different when you are a soilder......
Of course completely understandable, but what I'm saying is in general. I remember about a year ago a journalist in Europe drew a so called picture of allah and the whole world was up in anger, and this and that.
People Diss on the Qu'ran here all the time..... Its a tiny bit different when you are a soilder......[QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]Not to sound mean or anything, but why is it that people can sit here and diss on the bible, make fun of jesus christ, and say all they want about catholics and christians. No one ever gets in trouble, but the minute someone talks crap about the quran or allah they get all this crap from everybody. I think it is double standard and messed upH8sMikeMoore
emphasis on "tiny bit"
he only got sent home right? this is PR at its finest. Im sure they had a laugh about it before he got sent home, if anything im sure theyll have him back in a few weeks.
You know, you really seem to like the guy, which is strange since he is putting his fellow solders in danger for selfish reasons.....America is an occupying force, inciting hatred for that occupying force is doing what the terrorists want....
People Diss on the Qu'ran here all the time..... Its a tiny bit different when you are a soilder......[QUOTE="killtactics"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]Not to sound mean or anything, but why is it that people can sit here and diss on the bible, make fun of jesus christ, and say all they want about catholics and christians. No one ever gets in trouble, but the minute someone talks crap about the quran or allah they get all this crap from everybody. I think it is double standard and messed upxscrapzx
Of course completely understandable, but what I'm saying is in general. I remember about a year ago a journalist in Europe drew a so called picture of allah and the whole world was up in anger, and this and that.
It wasn't a picture of Allah... it was a picture of the Prophet which is forbidden...What you have to understand is right now Muslims see the West as trying to attack there religion.... After all America went to War with Iraq based on BS and lies.... Its call "Tension"...
Please Log In to post.
Log in to comment