[QUOTE="Franklinstein"]Also, there is no reason to get heated and continually curse and call my arguments bull****. MrGeezer
lol...Irony at its finest.
Anyway, I made sure to not "censor bypass" by bleeping out the entire curse (of course, you don't know it's a curse, since I bleeped it).
You obviously were offended, or else you wouldn't have pointed it out. Look at your wording..."there's no reason to...". Notice how you're talking as if I shouldn't have typed that. That even though I've committed no crime and am well within the bounds of free speech, you might think about reporting me for TOS violations. In other words, you would be trying to actively prevent me from further offending you, even though doing so is well within my first amendment rights.
Think about that for a minute. This whole time, I've acknowledged Parker's and Stone's right to do the show, as well as Comedy Central's right to censor it. You've been taking the whole "any censorship is bad, on purely moral grounds" idea, despite the fact that it is highly likely that Parker and Stone knew the terms of the contract before they ever signed it and before they ever made the ****ing South Park episode.
Question...if you complain about how you were obviously offended, and I somehow manage to get banned from this site, will you be one of the people clamoring for my return under the grounds that free speech should not be restricted? Hell, I could go to a different website and post the exact same **** (same way that Parker and Stone can find someone else to air their show if they think that Comedy Central is being too much of a douchebag). But will you be one of the people standing up for "first ammendment rights" (even though that doesn't apply since I signed a contract to post here, exactly like Parker and Stone surely signed a contract before Comedy Central aired their show) if I somehow get banned for that last post?
Also, let me clarify that my intent was absolutely NOT to offend you. And that I constantly try to make my posts here fit within the TOS (that is, the contract that I voluntarily signed in order to obtain posting privileges). I'm genuinely sorry if you were personally offended. That wasn't my intent. But let's keep in mind that all I did here was call your arguments "bull****" (that's within the TOS, isn't it?) MeanwhileParker and Stone are doing their DAMNDEST to offend the most sacred things that people hold dear. In order to accomplish this, they went under contract with Comedy Central. Now, Comedy Central thinks that they went too far, decided to censor Parker and Stone's material, and we have people here sayiing that Parker's and Stone's message should not have been compromised.
If a Gamespot user violates the terms of service, Is Gamespot violating free speech when they either delete the post or ban the user?
It's funny how I have been CONSTANTLY defending Parker's and Stone's free speech rights, while simultaneously claiming that they're acting like a couple of stupid kids who don't know how "free speech" actually works. I have Constantly said that they certainly can say what they want to, but that there's no reason for that and that they are being unnescesarily offensive. You then follow up with me saying "bull****" by replying "there's no reason for that."
Am I the only one who sees the irony here?
And again, I am genuinely sorry if I offended you. I didn't mean for such offense to take place, and I tried to stay within the bounds of my contract with Gamespot. That's the truth.
But if I get banned or something for my comment, somehow I VERY much doubt that you're going to be there arguing for me to be allowed back.
First off, I wasn't offended, I was merely noting the fact that you do not need to get so heated. I thought this was an intelligent debate. No reason for harsh comments, it takes away from the intelligence of it all. Secondly, no I would not report you even if it did offend me, because I do not care that much. Thirdly, if you were to get modded and deleted, this website has its own rules, the rules of Gamespot do not equal the rules of America. There is not freedom of speech in Gamespot. Hence, why you had to censor yourself in the first place.
That aside, let's get back to the real point here, You said that Comedy Central has the right to censor Trey and Matt, you are absolutely correct, they signed the contract that allowed them to work for Comedy Central in the first place. Comedy Central reserves all rights to do whatever they want with something that airs on their station. That is not what I am arguing at all, I believe that you are trying to draw focus away from the real argument by saying these things. I don't know though, I'm not a mind reader.
The argument that I am making is simply that the Muslims have recieved special treatment from the result of using a death threat. This special treatment just happens to take the form of an episode of a cartoon being pulled from the air. I find this extremely detrimintal to free speech. A cartoon bear was so offensive to this muslim group that they used fear to threaten someone to getting what they want. Now that is the exact definition of a terrorist. (I'm not one of those whooping conservative jerks that throws the word terrorist around loosely, and quite frankly I think that a war on terror is a blank check, but I digress, that is not the point we're talking about). That being said, I see no reason why Comedy Central should have pulled this episode, you think I'm arguing that they did not have the right to do it, of course they did, they own it, I'm saying that they SHOULDN'T have done this.
Yes, It is a kick to the groin of free speech.
No, free speech should not be curtailed so that no one gets offended.
What if the Catholic religion tomorrow said that they were going to kill Matt and Trey if they did not retract every episode with Jesus in it? What if Comedy Central decided to pull every episode with Jesus in it? You don't see how that hurts freedom of speech? I mean, really you don't see it?
I'm not sure if you are online right now, but I'll come back and check this periodically for your rebuttle.
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