South Park is on...they are censoring the word Muhammad altogether

Bingo! I underline the best part of your post. I agree completely. Nonmuslims aren't under any obligation to ensure that islamic taboos are enforced.

Islamic law only applies to muslims. The taboos of a religious group to which I do not belong should in no way restrict my freedom of speech.

dkrustyklown

It's funny seeing the differing replies in this thread, vs the thread about the WBC protesting at funerals. In either case, I don't see much of a difference.

Is it "free speech"? Yeah. Do they have the right to do it? Of course. That doesn't mean it's not a dirtbag thing to do.

I haven't seen the recent episode, but South Park absolutely does go out of its way to offend people. The WBC goes out of its way to offend people when they protest at funerals. And I don't think "because they can" is any kind of defense when it comes to human decency.

[QUOTE="dkrustyklown"]

Bingo! I underline the best part of your post. I agree completely. Nonmuslims aren't under any obligation to ensure that islamic taboos are enforced.

Islamic law only applies to muslims. The taboos of a religious group to which I do not belong should in no way restrict my freedom of speech.

MrGeezer

It's funny seeing the differing replies in this thread, vs the thread about the WBC protesting at funerals. In either case, I don't see much of a difference.

Is it "free speech"? Yeah. Do they have the right to do it? Of course. That doesn't mean it's not a dirtbag thing to do.

I haven't seen the recent episode, but South Park absolutely does go out of its way to offend people. The WBC goes out of its way to offend people when they protest at funerals. And I don't think "because they can" is any kind of defense when it comes to human decency.

[QUOTE="dkrustyklown"]

Bingo! I underline the best part of your post. I agree completely. Nonmuslims aren't under any obligation to ensure that islamic taboos are enforced.

Islamic law only applies to muslims. The taboos of a religious group to which I do not belong should in no way restrict my freedom of speech.

MrGeezer

It's funny seeing the differing replies in this thread, vs the thread about the WBC protesting at funerals. In either case, I don't see much of a difference.

Is it "free speech"? Yeah. Do they have the right to do it? Of course. That doesn't mean it's not a dirtbag thing to do.

I haven't seen the recent episode, but South Park absolutely does go out of its way to offend people. The WBC goes out of its way to offend people when they protest at funerals. And I don't think "because they can" is any kind of defense when it comes to human decency.

Well the whole uproar about the WBC is that their protesting at a dead soldier's funeral, which is happening in the real world. I'd say showing an image of a prophet on a satirical cartoon is just a littledifferent than that.

It's funny seeing the differing replies in this thread, vs the thread about the WBC protesting at funerals. In either case, I don't see much of a difference.

Is it "free speech"? Yeah. Do they have the right to do it? Of course. That doesn't mean it's not a dirtbag thing to do.

I haven't seen the recent episode, but South Park absolutely does go out of its way to offend people. The WBC goes out of its way to offend people when they protest at funerals. And I don't think "because they can" is any kind of defense when it comes to human decency.

MrGeezer

My position in regards to the WBC and Southpark has remained consistent. I support freedom of speech, no matter how offensive some might find it. In all of my posts in regards to the WBC activities, I have clearly stated my opinion that what they do, while offensive, is protected free speech.

Might you have me confused with someone else?

Difference is that if you don't like SP you can change the channel and not see it. If you try and move someone by force you get done for assault.CakeBalls

Shinian wrote..."So If some poor Muslim souls seen the image of Mohammad few pages earlier he would be damned? That's one harsh rule. But's that their problem not ours."

Here we have people expressing gross indifference to the people who are offended. Ask the WBC about the feelings of those who they protest against, and I'm sure you'll get a reply like, "that's their problem, not ours."

Well the whole uproar about the WBC is that their protesting at a dead soldier's funeral, which is happening in the real world. I'd say showing an image of a prophet on a satirical cartoon is just a littledifferent than that.

SpartanMSU

Yeah, if you don't give a **** about the religious beliefs of the religious group that you're intentionally trying to piss off.

Meanwhile, If I'm protesting at a funeral trying to piss people off, and I have absolutely zero concern or respect for their feelings, then that's pretty much the same thing.

[QUOTE="CakeBalls"]Difference is that if you don't like SP you can change the channel and not see it. If you try and move someone by force you get done for assault.MrGeezer

Shinian wrote..."So If some poor Muslim souls seen the image of Mohammad few pages earlier he would be damned? That's one harsh rule. But's that their problem not ours."

Here we have people expressing gross indifference to the people who are offended. Ask the WBC about the feelings of those who they protest against, and I'm sure you'll get a reply like, "that's their problem, not ours."

I posted in the topic you mentioned earlier. If WBC wants to do something about current "wars" they should make a protest around White House or Congress. But you're right if WBC sole intent is to annoy people that's the mourners problem. If I were them I'd just take the high ground and completely ignore WBC actions. So should the Muslims.

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Well the whole uproar about the WBC is that their protesting at a dead soldier's funeral, which is happening in the real world. I'd say showing an image of a prophet on a satirical cartoon is just a littledifferent than that.

MrGeezer

Yeah, if you don't give a **** about the religious beliefs of the religious group that you're intentionally trying to piss off.

Meanwhile, If I'm protesting at a funeral trying to piss people off, and I have absolutely zero concern or respect for their feelings, then that's pretty much the same thing.

No, it's not. You have a choice to watch SP or not or whether to even watch TV or not. The family of the dead soldier doesn't have a choice of whether the soldier lives or dies...it just happens whether you like it or not. That's the difference.

WBC has the right to do this (although it does bring up the issue of privacy) as does SP has the right to show an image of Muhammed. But I'd say the WBC is MUCH worse than what SP is doing, which is showing equal treatment of all religions and any other beliefs (they ALL are going to be made fun of).

[QUOTE="CakeBalls"]Difference is that if you don't like SP you can change the channel and not see it. If you try and move someone by force you get done for assault.MrGeezer

Shinian wrote..."So If some poor Muslim souls seen the image of Mohammad few pages earlier he would be damned? That's one harsh rule. But's that their problem not ours."

Here we have people expressing gross indifference to the people who are offended. Ask the WBC about the feelings of those who they protest against, and I'm sure you'll get a reply like, "that's their problem, not ours."

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Well the whole uproar about the WBC is that their protesting at a dead soldier's funeral, which is happening in the real world. I'd say showing an image of a prophet on a satirical cartoon is just a littledifferent than that.

MrGeezer

Yeah, if you don't give a **** about the religious beliefs of the religious group that you're intentionally trying to piss off.

Meanwhile, If I'm protesting at a funeral trying to piss people off, and I have absolutely zero concern or respect for their feelings, then that's pretty much the same thing.

Well this is terrible. Now any religious group can change what appears on TV if they are "offended"

No, it's not. You have a choice to watch SP or not or whether to even watch TV or not. The family of the dead soldier doesn't have a choice of whether the soldier lives or dies...it just happens whether you like it or not. That's the difference.

WBC has the right to do this (although it does bring up the issue of privacy) as does SP has the right to show an image of Muhammed. But I'd say the WBC is MUCH worse than what SP is doing, which is showing equal treatment of all religions and any other beliefs (they ALL are going to be made fun of).

SpartanMSU

I'm sure that somewhere, a Muslim will just happen to be watching TV, and happen upon a depiction of Muhammad. If we can say to those people, "tough cookies, no one gives a **** about you, then that is showing a very real and serious contempt for other peoples' deeply held religious beliefs.

Meanwhile, someone can avoid having to listen to Phelps and their crew by simply not going to the funeral.

They're showing "equal treatment" of religions? Why should they be mocking religions AT ALL?

Well this is terrible. Now any religious group can change what appears on TV if they are "offended"

Morphic

Again, COMEDY CENTRAL changed what appeared on TV. The religious group in question didn't change ANYTHING.

As long as there is free speech this will always be a problem. The fix would be to ban free speech, but I'm not sure people will jump at the idea of that. You just have to deal with it.CakeBalls

Actually, the "fix" would be for viewers to start demanding standards of decency. Comedy Central is a business, and public demand will influence what they allow on the air.

Meanwhile, if viewers simply lack basic human decency and see no problem with intentionally trying to mock people's sacred beliefs for no other reason than that they can, then that's that.

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

No, it's not. You have a choice to watch SP or not or whether to even watch TV or not. The family of the dead soldier doesn't have a choice of whether the soldier lives or dies...it just happens whether you like it or not. That's the difference.

WBC has the right to do this (although it does bring up the issue of privacy) as does SP has the right to show an image of Muhammed. But I'd say the WBC is MUCH worse than what SP is doing, which is showing equal treatment of all religions and any other beliefs (they ALL are going to be made fun of).

MrGeezer

I'm sure that somewhere, a Muslim will just happen to be watching TV, and happen upon a depiction of Muhammad. If we can say to those people, "tough cookies, no one gives a **** about you, then that is showing a very real and serious contempt for other peoples' deeply held religious beliefs.

Meanwhile, someone can avoid having to listen to Phelps and their crew by simply not going to the funeral.

They're showing "equal treatment" of religions? Why should they be mocking religions AT ALL?

The family of the dead soldier is not going to go to the funeral? Are you kidding me? It's THEIR son's/daughter's funeral, not the WBC's...

I'm sorry, but if you're more offended by someone making fun of your religion than someone picketing at a dead soldier's funeral, you've got some issues...

SP mocks every group, that's why the show's so popular...it's fun to make fun of people. OMG TEH REVELATION!

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

No, it's not. You have a choice to watch SP or not or whether to even watch TV or not. The family of the dead soldier doesn't have a choice of whether the soldier lives or dies...it just happens whether you like it or not. That's the difference.

WBC has the right to do this (although it does bring up the issue of privacy) as does SP has the right to show an image of Muhammed. But I'd say the WBC is MUCH worse than what SP is doing, which is showing equal treatment of all religions and any other beliefs (they ALL are going to be made fun of).

MrGeezer

I'm sure that somewhere, a Muslim will just happen to be watching TV, and happen upon a depiction of Muhammad. If we can say to those people, "tough cookies, no one gives a **** about you, then that is showing a very real and serious contempt for other peoples' deeply held religious beliefs.

Meanwhile, someone can avoid having to listen to Phelps and their crew by simply not going to the funeral.

They're showing "equal treatment" of religions? Why should they be mocking religions AT ALL?

[QUOTE="Morphic"]

Well this is terrible. Now any religious group can change what appears on TV if they are "offended"

MrGeezer

Again, COMEDY CENTRAL changed what appeared on TV. The religious group in question didn't change ANYTHING.

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

No, it's not. You have a choice to watch SP or not or whether to even watch TV or not. The family of the dead soldier doesn't have a choice of whether the soldier lives or dies...it just happens whether you like it or not. That's the difference.

WBC has the right to do this (although it does bring up the issue of privacy) as does SP has the right to show an image of Muhammed. But I'd say the WBC is MUCH worse than what SP is doing, which is showing equal treatment of all religions and any other beliefs (they ALL are going to be made fun of).

MrGeezer

I'm sure that somewhere, a Muslim will just happen to be watching TV, and happen upon a depiction of Muhammad. If we can say to those people, "tough cookies, no one gives a **** about you, then that is showing a very real and serious contempt for other peoples' deeply held religious beliefs.

Meanwhile, someone can avoid having to listen to Phelps and their crew by simply not going to the funeral.

They're showing "equal treatment" of religions? Why should they be mocking religions AT ALL?

They're showing "equal treatment" of religions? Why should they be mocking religions AT ALL?

MrGeezer

Why not? They mock everything else.

[QUOTE="CakeBalls"]As long as there is free speech this will always be a problem. The fix would be to ban free speech, but I'm not sure people will jump at the idea of that. You just have to deal with it.MrGeezer

Actually, the "fix" would be for viewers to start demanding standards of decency. Comedy Central is a business, and public demand will influence what they allow on the air.

Meanwhile, if viewers simply lack basic human decency and see no problem with intentionally trying to mock people's sacred beliefs for no other reason than that they can, then that's that.

[QUOTE="Morphic"]

Well this is terrible. Now any religious group can change what appears on TV if they are "offended"

MrGeezer

Again, COMEDY CENTRAL changed what appeared on TV. The religious group in question didn't change ANYTHING.

Yeah they did, if it wasn't for their threats then CC wouldn't of censored it.

Wow this thread changed so much since last night.

For the worst.

OT: I think it's stupid that Comedy Central censored Mohammed now it's not confirmed or anything but i'm going to go with that they were scared of the threast of the islamics

now i agree that they shouldn't have Censored the depiction of Mohammed but really the threats were just over the line

Ending was epic

Once again, the hypocracy is hilarious in this thread and it shows just how remarkably short sighted individuals are.

South Park wanted to express their first amendment rights by airing content that they knew might be contriversial. They then 'egg on' threats against them in the ending.

Then some blogger expresses his first amendmenet right on HIS website.

In comes the bigots who cry foul. Suggesting that all Muslims are represented by this blogger, and Muslims don't believe in free speak. Some have gone to the extreme to suggest that the ME be turned into a sheet of glass. Others simply suggest the bloggers should be killed.

(a) These bloggers too were expressing their first amendment rights. THE FBI in fact agrees

Mr. Kolko said: "The F.B.I. will investigate threats that occur over the Internet to determine if there is a potential for the threat to be carried out. However, in most cases these are First Amendment issues, and the F.B.I. vigorously defends people's First Amendment rights."

Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kellysaid the New York Police Department was "aware of the threat, and we've looked at it."

He added, "We don't think that this threat, as is currently assessed, rises to a crime right now."

(b) Folks are suggesting we commit violence against an ENTIRE SEGMENT of people, because one member of that segment made a semi-violent remark

I find this to be extremely hilarious to say the least. The level of sensationalism made by some clowns is half the reason no one trusts each other anymore.

I love South Park for waht they are doing. Everything they are doing with these new episodes is basically screaming "F U World" and I love it.

Wow this thread changed so much since last night.

For the worst.

OT: I think it's stupid that Comedy Central censored Mohammed now it's not confirmed or anything but i'm going to go with that they were scared of the threast of the islamics

now i agree that they shouldn't have Censored the depiction of Mohammed but really the threats were just over the line

batman_is_aweso

Yeah...... It seems people still do not understand the true reason behind Free Speech but ::sigh:: I digress. I'm quite drained from reading this thread since last night.

I agree that the threats are over the line. Comedy Central was probably smart not to air it or at least censor it since I would like to remind everyone that below pic has happened before by a group of Muslim Terrorists.

While the reasons for that particular situation is different, there is no point in putting more fuel to the fire. Does Freedom of Speech for 2 dumb white boys that want to offend & piss off the Islamic community & a group of Extremist who will POSSIBLY hurt or kill more innocent people worth it? I say no. Will something like the Twin Towers happen? Maybe or maybe not. Who's to say? I doubt anyone can tell. It might not be that extreme but then it could be. Putting reason/debate/foretell to whether or not this might happen is as moronic as defending 2 guys being censored for trying to offend Muslims. Sure we can keep on pointing out that those of the Christianity, Buddism & Jewish communities aren't doing anything when mocked at. So what? They don't have Terrorists & Extremists that go ape$#!* with flying airplanes into buildings or becoming a human C4.

Again to reitirate my previous post. This isn't Freedom of Speech but in actuality a Hate Speech. Freedom of Speech isn't absolute. If you think it is, you need to go read up & learn what Freedom of Speech really is & not abuse what has been given to us by our Fore Fathers & those who have shedded life & blood for this amazing right & liberty. All I am saying is people like Matt & Trey are probably gonna F@#% it up for the rest of us, just so they can get their kicks.

I'm done with this thread...... It's just too draining to read some of these posts. A million face palms aren't enough. Good day folks!

If the people who threatened the South Park creators want that kind of censorship, then they can kindly go live in Saudi Arabia.

Once again, the hypocracy is hilarious in this thread and it shows just how remarkably short sighted individuals are.

South Park wanted to express their first amendment rights by airing content that they knew might be contriversial. They then 'egg on' threats against them in the ending.

Then some blogger expresses his first amendmenet right on HIS website.

In comes the bigots who cry foul. Suggesting that all Muslims are represented by this blogger, and Muslims don't believe in free speak. Some have gone to the extreme to suggest that the ME be turned into a sheet of glass. Others simply suggest the bloggers should be killed.

(a) These bloggers too were expressing their first amendment rights. THE FBI in fact agrees

Mr. Kolko said: "The F.B.I. will investigate threats that occur over the Internet to determine if there is a potential for the threat to be carried out. However, in most cases these are First Amendment issues, and the F.B.I. vigorously defends people's First Amendment rights."

Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kellysaid the New York Police Department was "aware of the threat, and we've looked at it."

He added, "We don't think that this threat, as is currently assessed, rises to a crime right now."

(b) Folks are suggesting we commit violence against an ENTIRE SEGMENT of people, because one member of that segment made a semi-violent remark

I find this to be extremely hilarious to say the least. The level of sensationalism made by some clowns is half the reason no one trusts each other anymore.

SquatsAreAwesom

Posting the address to Trey and Matt's house sounds kinda like inciting some kind of violence to me...also saying "something bad is going to happen to them". I don't see anyone freaking out over Buddha snorting coke or Jesus watching porn...

The outrage is over the special treatment Muslims get...

Get it? Probably not...

[QUOTE="batman_is_aweso"]

Wow this thread changed so much since last night.

For the worst.

OT: I think it's stupid that Comedy Central censored Mohammed now it's not confirmed or anything but i'm going to go with that they were scared of the threast of the islamics

now i agree that they shouldn't have Censored the depiction of Mohammed but really the threats were just over the line

envybianchi

Yeah...... It seems people still do not understand the true reason behind Free Speech but ::sigh:: I digress. I'm quite drained from reading this thread since last night.

I agree that the threats are over the line. Comedy Central was probably smart not to air it or at least censor it since I would like to remind everyone that below pic has happened before by a group of Muslim Terrorists.

While the reasons for that particular situation is different, there is no point in putting more fuel to the fire. Does Freedom of Speech for 2 dumb white boys that want to offend & piss off the Islamic community & a group of Extremist who will POSSIBLY hurt or kill more innocent people worth it? I say no. Will something like the Twin Towers happen? Maybe or maybe not. Who's to say? I doubt anyone can tell. It might not be that extreme but then it could be. Putting reason/debate/foretell to whether or not this might happen is as moronic as defending 2 guys being censored for trying to offend Muslims. Sure we can keep on pointing out that those of the Christianity, Buddism & Jewish communities aren't doing anything when mocked at. So what? They don't have Terrorists & Extremists that go ape$#!* with flying airplanes into buildings or becoming a human C4.

Again to reitirate my previous post. This isn't Freedom of Speech but in actuality a Hate Speech. Freedom of Speech isn't absolute. If you think it is, you need to go read up & learn what Freedom of Speech really is & not abuse what has been given to us by our Fore Fathers & those who have shedded life & blood for this amazing right & liberty. All I am saying is people like Matt & Trey are probably gonna F@#% it up for the rest of us, just so they can get their kicks.

I'm done with this thread...... It's just too draining to read some of these posts. A million face palms aren't enough. Good day folks!

How is showing an image of the Islamic prophet hate speech? Hate speech isn't illegal anyways. That's why the KKK get freakin' police protection when it has its annual rally in Ann Arbor, MI. You're clueless.

Damn, I missed that episode. They showed a rerun at the time I usually watch it. Stupid satellite tv. :x

i really dont care.. it seems like a publicity stunt on both endsweezyfb

Why should they be mocking anything (that is what it will expand to) at all? Answer: Because America is not a fascist state. I for one like freedom and do not want to give it up simply because someone is "offended"Mafiree

Which basically amounts to "because they can".

Which I personally think is a total crock. I can do a lot of things that I otherwise wouldn't if I'm not an ass. Same with the WBC, same with telemarketers. Same with everything.

Since when did "can do X" become synonymous with "should do X"?

You just got TROLLED by Revolution "Muslim"

First South Park trolls Muslims with their episode. In retaliation, the folks over at Revolution Muslims have successfully pulled off the bigger troll. Arguably the biggest troll in American History.

Lets meet the members, shall we?

co-founder
Yousef al-Khattab aka Joseph Leonard Cohen
Jewish American who used to live in Israel. Abruptly converts to Islam.

Quotes:
"I love Osama bin Laden... I can't see hes don't anything wrong from the Shariah"

"I would like to see Israel wiped off the map. I would like to see a mushroom cloud over it."

"control the animal population, reopen Auschwitz. Sanitize the Zionist; get the ovens burning."

co-founder
Younes Abdullah Mohammed

Wait for it... ALSO a Jewish American who converted to Islam.

Quotes:
"We're commanded to terrorize the disbelievers"

"Americans will always be a target — and a legitimate target — until America changes its nature in the international arena," Mohammed said in an interview to air on tonight's "AC 360."

"The Qur'an commands you to disavow, and commit hatred and emnity towards democracy, nationalism and secularism and see Obama for the enemy he really... see the enemy that the United States really is"

ORIGINAL BLOGGER
Abu Talhah Al-Amrikee aka Zachary Chesser

What the heck, he's also an American Jew!

quotes
"Theo Van Gogh – Have Matt Stone And Trey Parker Forgotten This?"

popular works
Poem: Kill The Jews

============

WAIT... Do these names sound familiar??? Oh ya. That's because THEY ARE. These two have been trolling America for the past ~2 years. Now they have literally just concluded the biggest troll in American history. **** is jealous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErtqooKLDpo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djzxvWV4-Js

The family of the dead soldier is not going to go to the funeral? Are you kidding me? It's THEIR son's/daughter's funeral, not the WBC's...

I'm sorry, but if you're more offended by someone making fun of your religion than someone picketing at a dead soldier's funeral, you've got some issues...

SP mocks every group, that's why the show's so popular...it's fun to make fun of people. OMG TEH REVELATION!

SpartanMSU

And I'm sure the WBC finds it fun to picket dead soldiers' funerals. Are you trying to go somewhere with this?

Comedy Central changed it because there were demands and a fear of retaliation from Muslims....... Not because of the demands of their viewers which should be the reasons for their programming choices.Mafiree

And they were perfectly capable of telling the people making the threats to go to hell, and then airing the show uncensored anyway.

They didn't change it because they were FORCED. They changed it because they looked at the potential rewards vs the potential risks, and decided that it wasn't worth it.

LOL! You do know that every member in the KKK is monitored right? Police Protection? Yeah, to protect the public, not the other way around. I imagine if they strolled through Harlem or a ghetto neighborhood, every single dumb@$$ is KKK will be shot down while the police do nothing but watch. KKK are marching through Ann Arbor, Michigan where nearly 80% of the population is White, 9% is Black, 11% is Asian & other. Please don't defend a bunch of ****ing b!#$h white guys who would hide behind cops in a WHITE TOWN. Just freaking pathetic.

Hate Speech is illegal when it affects those who have been offended, insulted, or disrepected them in anyway, shape or form & when they actually take action towards it (ie. race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, religion & so on). Doesn't matter if Prophet Mohammed is wearing a bear suit or a clown suit or a freaking monkey suit, it offends those in the Islamic community & the Muslim Extremist group. It's part of the Freedom of Speech loophole. Every country has a Freedom of Speech/ Freedom of Expression loophole including the United States of America. Clueless? Please, don't make statements that make you sound like an imbecile. Learn about what Freedom of Speech actually is in the U.S.A. before you start & defend 2 moronic white guys.

envybianchi

Dude, you're missing the whole point behind freedom of speech, it protects things people don't agree with to, are you seriously suggesting that they roll over and just let this crap happen? What's next then we aren't allowed to say the word muslim? No, I would gladly die for the right for someone to say something I didn't agree with, that's what keeps the flow of new ideas and knowledge alive, it is the most crucial and important of our freedoms.

Yeah great message to these extremist a-holes: Making threats is the way to go!Tauruslink

Right, like the whole "head in the sand" episode, which just showed how utterly stupid Matt and Trey are when it comes to this issue.

Question: What are the risks vs benefits of airing the show uncensored?

Benefits: Fans don't get pissed off.

Risks: Someone might get ****ing KILLED.

Now...if ****ing South Park worth ANYONE getting hurt or killed over? I mean, seriously, we're talking about South Park. If they find potential death to be a fair risk in order to air their silly little show, based on some kind of "we will not cater to terrorists EVER" kind of ********, then they are ****ing idiots.

They're sending a message alright. The message isn't that threats are the way to go, the message is that you pick your battles, and it's not worth having people get hurt or killed over a silly ****ing cartoon.

South Park ain't ****. Sometime in the future, if someone ever decides to air something IMPORTANT and then receives threats to take it off the air, the studio in question can say "go to hell, we're showing it anyway." Comedy Central's decision right now does not in any way take away anyone's ability to make a completely DIFFERENT decision at a later time.

Dude, you guys that are saying that this episode isn't worth anyone getting hurt are ridiculous. You're missing the point of freedom of speech. It does not revolve around people getting offended. That does not matter. It is completely and one hundred percent irrelevant if people get offended. When you start thinking of people getting offended that's when things really start getting ugly. Imagine a world where one thing is not ok to say, that leads to two things, and eventually we have a situation where freedom of speech does not mean freedom of speech at all. If Trey and Matt want to say something even if it is something I completely disagree with and I believe is offensive(which they've done several times), then it is there right as an American. Franklinstein

Bull****.

When you go to work and feel slightly annoyed, your first ammendment rights allow you to insult their bosses and their customers. Most people hold that **** in though, because they don't want to get fired.

Yes, people absolutely CAN say almost whatever the hell they want to. That doesn't mean that it's worth it.

It's your right to tell your girlfriend that she's fat and ugly, and it's your right to be surprised when she dumps your ass.

"Free speech" does not mean and never has meant that UNRESTRAINED free speech is a good ****ing idea. The fact that you CAN say something never has and never will mean that you SHOULD say it.

And that's why I think of Parker and Stone as a couple of juvenile-minded brats. They're the equivalent of a kid running around trying out every insult or curse word he's heard, in order to see what he can get away with. And when he doesn't get away with something, he throws a ****ing tantrum. People personally and voluntarily restrict their own free speech ALL THE TIME. Always saying what you think isn't an admirable quality, it's a characteristic of someone who is entirely ****ing ignorant about how society works.

YES, what people say revolves around whether or not people get offended.

[QUOTE="Franklinstein"]Dude, you guys that are saying that this episode isn't worth anyone getting hurt are ridiculous. You're missing the point of freedom of speech. It does not revolve around people getting offended. That does not matter. It is completely and one hundred percent irrelevant if people get offended. When you start thinking of people getting offended that's when things really start getting ugly. Imagine a world where one thing is not ok to say, that leads to two things, and eventually we have a situation where freedom of speech does not mean freedom of speech at all. If Trey and Matt want to say something even if it is something I completely disagree with and I believe is offensive(which they've done several times), then it is there right as an American. MrGeezer

Bull****.

When you go to work and feel slightly annoyed, your first ammendment rights allow you to insult their bosses and their customers. Most people hold that **** in though, because they don't want to get fired.

Yes, people absolutely CAN say almost whatever the hell they want to. That doesn't mean that it's worth it.

It's your right to tell your girlfriend that she's fat and ugly, and it's your right to be surprised when she dumps your ass.

"Free speech" does not mean and never has meant that UNRESTRAINED free speech is a good ****ing idea. The fact that you CAN say something never has and never will mean that you SHOULD say it.

And that's why I think of Parker and Stone as a couple of juvenile-minded brats. They're the equivalent of a kid running around trying out every insult or curse word he's heard, in order to see what he can get away with. And when he doesn't get away with something, he throws a ****ing tantrum. People personally and voluntarily restrict their own free speech ALL THE TIME. Always saying what you think isn't an admirable quality, it's a characteristic of someone who is entirely ****ing ignorant about how society works.

YES, what people say revolves around whether or not people get offended.