South Park is on...they are censoring the word Muhammad altogether

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#251 aaronmullan
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This is why I stay clear of religion. Why don't people just live their lives?
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#252 MrGeezer
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They violated the freedom of free speech. Being a private company they violated no laws. The idea of free speech is just that, that you can say what you like. Not that you shouldn't say something because radical extremists might kill you, but it's okay if they won't.

Pixel-Pirate

No, they have not in any way violated Parker's and Stone's "freedom of speech" Parker and Stone can say what they want, on their own, but Comedy Central is in no way obligated to air the episode on their channel. Censoring the episode is Comedy Central's freedom of speech.

What, are you saying that Parker and Stone should have freedom of speech, but that Comedy Central shouldn't?

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#253 chessmaster1989
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I think it was them making a statement rather than actual censorship...
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]That is because when Joe Schmoe eats a BLT it doesn't directly affect them. They aren't tasting the BLT. In contrast, the cartoon is still offending the person's faith by mere viewership. A more adequate analogy would be if a guy named Sloppy Joe was really sloppy eating BLT and pieces of pork kept flying off into the mouths of Jewish passerbys. That would be more accurate. In that instances, who knows how a Jew would react. Engrish_Major
The episode had Jesus watching pron on a laptop! Is that not offensive to Christians?

I could care less, mainly because it's nothing more than a depiction of Jesus in a fictional setting. I took it as a satirical mockery on censorship, on how Mohammed gets censored just for being depicted while Buddha snorts coke and Jesus is watching pron and nobody raises a fiddle. I'm pretty sure that South Park made worse comments on Scientology and Mormonism than Catholicism or Christianity.
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#255 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]The episode had Jesus watching pron on a laptop! Is that not offensive to Christians?Vandalvideo
It was a small part of the episode nestled between highly controversial subject matters. I doubt that the more righteous of Christians picked up on that small moment. I hadn't even remember that moment until you mentioned it. I was too focused on the inclusion of the Mormon dude at the time and the Seaman jokes. I also am not aware of the extent to which pornography is evil, or whether mere viewership would be.

"Tom Cruise has Seaman on his back" :lol:

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#256 mourninguser4
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[QUOTE="Famiking"]Why do they even bother airing episodes with Mohammed in it? The reason they're offended is because he's in it. Not because they made him a bear or something. And no, I don't think it's determental to free speech. If you're going to do something stupid/disrespectful, then you have to accept any criticism that's thrown at you.

Deal with it or switch your TV off. You have no right to dictate what should or shouldn't be screened. End of.
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#257 EVOLV3
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The visual censorship was purposefully done but the audio was done by Comedy Central

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#258 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] It doesn't have to be because of the fear of violence - it can be out of common decency. Which seems to be something the South Park creators are lacking, but I digress.

Even if it is the US, there are consequences for actions. It's the beauty of life - everything has its reactions. They should be able to deal with it, or not do the action to begin with.

And I don't think I ever said one religion is more important than the other. They may have failed at their individual attemps to call for baisc respect, but that doesn't mean Muslims should just give up too.

anyway, I have to go now, talk later.

sSubZerOo

I don't see Christian or Buddhist groups sending death threats to the makers of South Park for showing offensive images of Jesus and Buddha...why should Islam get special treatment?

Actually I am sure South Park gets death threats all around including Christian.. Its just Islam is publicized as of late.

I doubt many Buddhists threatened to kill Matt and Trey.

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#259 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

They violated the freedom of free speech. Being a private company they violated no laws. The idea of free speech is just that, that you can say what you like. Not that you shouldn't say something because radical extremists might kill you, but it's okay if they won't.

MrGeezer

No, they have not in any way violated Parker's and Stone's "freedom of speech" Parker and Stone can say what they want, on their own, but Comedy Central is in no way obligated to air the episode on their channel. Censoring the episode is Comedy Central's freedom of speech.

What, are you saying that Parker and Stone should have freedom of speech, but that Comedy Central shouldn't?

I don't know, I feel "Say this and I will kill you" to be a violation of ones freedom of speech.

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#260 CakeBalls
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I'm disappointed in south park. The more that people start to prod at a certain thing the sooner that people will become less angry at it.
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#261 weezyfb
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i really dont care.. it seems like a publicity stunt on both ends
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#262 Disturbed123
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This is why I stay clear of religion. Why don't people just live their lives?aaronmullan

Why dont people just stop taking the mick out of religions? Then this crap wont be cycling every day. Its purely stereotyping and descrimination. I might aswell start making a new TV show that revolves around racism and taking the micky out of blacks. I might aswell crack jokes about my friends dead mom too. I mean it is my oppinion, its a free world isnt it?

Seriously, theres are certain topics that are sensitive to people. Just because it doesnt bother you, doesnt mean it wont bother other people.

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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]This is why I stay clear of religion. Why don't people just live their lives?Disturbed123

Why dont people just stop taking the mick out of religions? Then this crap wont be cycling every day. Its purely stereotyping and descrimination. I might aswell start making a new TV show that revolves around racism and taking the micky out of blacks. I might aswell crack jokes about my friends dead mom too. I mean it is my oppinion, its a free world isnt it?

Seriously, theres are certain topics that are sensitive to people. Just because it doesnt bother you, doesnt mean it wont bother other people.

If people are going to continue to publicize and try to change political policy around their religion, thenexpect there to be criticism on it.. Its quite simple isn't it?

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[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]This is why I stay clear of religion. Why don't people just live their lives?sSubZerOo

Why dont people just stop taking the mick out of religions? Then this crap wont be cycling every day. Its purely stereotyping and descrimination. I might aswell start making a new TV show that revolves around racism and taking the micky out of blacks. I might aswell crack jokes about my friends dead mom too. I mean it is my oppinion, its a free world isnt it?

Seriously, theres are certain topics that are sensitive to people. Just because it doesnt bother you, doesnt mean it wont bother other people.

If people are going to continue to publicize and try to change political policy around their religion, thenexpect there to be criticism on it.. Its quite simple isn't it?

Many religions do not clash with any form of political views in any sense. While the minority may be being extremist about the thing that happened in south park, that doesnt neglect the fact this poor excuse of threats originated from something that the south park team done. Its simple, stop descriminating religion, and people will be at peace from both sides. At the rate south park is going, i wouldnt be at all suprised if they do get bombed.

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#265 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

Why dont people just stop taking the mick out of religions? Then this crap wont be cycling every day. Its purely stereotyping and descrimination. I might aswell start making a new TV show that revolves around racism and taking the micky out of blacks. I might aswell crack jokes about my friends dead mom too. I mean it is my oppinion, its a free world isnt it?

Seriously, theres are certain topics that are sensitive to people. Just because it doesnt bother you, doesnt mean it wont bother other people.

Disturbed123

If people are going to continue to publicize and try to change political policy around their religion, thenexpect there to be criticism on it.. Its quite simple isn't it?

Many religions do not clash with any form of political views in any sense. While the minority may be being extremist about the thing that happened in south park, that doesnt neglect the fact this poor excuse of threats originated from something that the south park team done. Its simple, stop descriminating religion, and people will be at peace from both sides. At the rate south park is going, i wouldnt be at all suprised if they do get bombed.

Demanding people censor themselves goes against the constitution, which is fairly sacred to the country. So, yeah, it does go against a form of political views in the US.

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#266 zakkro
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Considering how they censored the whole "message" part at the end, I'm pretty sure this was deliberately done to make some point of 'If we don't make fun of everything, there's no point to this show.'
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#267 MrGeezer
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I don't know, I feel "Say this and I will kill you" to be a violation of ones freedom of speech.

Pixel-Pirate

They didn't have to censor the episode, and people here are saying that they still shouldn't have censored it despite the threats. I don't recall if you were one of the ones saying that Comedy Central should have aired it uncensored. But if you are, that seems to me to be an admission that they weren't forced, that it was no one's decision but their own.

Anyway you look at it, it still looks to be Comedy Central's decision, no one else's.

And hey, abortion clinics get death threats too, and still continue operating within their rights.

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#268 SSJ_Nega
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As much as I love south park, I hated that episode. So boring and anticlimactic.

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#269 Disturbed123
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[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

If people are going to continue to publicize and try to change political policy around their religion, thenexpect there to be criticism on it.. Its quite simple isn't it?

Pixel-Pirate

Many religions do not clash with any form of political views in any sense. While the minority may be being extremist about the thing that happened in south park, that doesnt neglect the fact this poor excuse of threats originated from something that the south park team done. Its simple, stop descriminating religion, and people will be at peace from both sides. At the rate south park is going, i wouldnt be at all suprised if they do get bombed.

Demanding people censor themselves goes against the constitution, which is fairly sacred to the country. So, yeah, it does go against a form of political views in the US.

You have totally lost me. This has nothing to do with any form of censorship. Its simply the fact about discrimination should be avoided in the first place then this garbage wont happen in the first place. Simple as ABC

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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

Many religions do not clash with any form of political views in any sense. While the minority may be being extremist about the thing that happened in south park, that doesnt neglect the fact this poor excuse of threats originated from something that the south park team done. Its simple, stop descriminating religion, and people will be at peace from both sides. At the rate south park is going, i wouldnt be at all suprised if they do get bombed.

Disturbed123

Demanding people censor themselves goes against the constitution, which is fairly sacred to the country. So, yeah, it does go against a form of political views in the US.

You have totally lost me. This has nothing to do with any form of censorship. Its simply the fact about discrimination should be avoided in the first place then this garbage wont happen in the first place. Simple as ABC

The whole point is that we are able to criticize all other religions, views, etc., but when it comes to Islam, everyone has to shut up. This is something we as a society cannot accept. Of course, South Park takes it to the extreme, but to great effect of highlighting how ridiculous this really is. You have Buddha snorting coke, but then you have what is supposedly Muhammad in a bear costume and all hell breaks loose.
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#272 albatrossdrums
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I just saw something that may be even funnier and more subversive than actually depicting Muhammad in the episode. I just saw a scrawl on the bottom of the screen on MSNBC that read "Trey Parker and Matt Stone have been warned they may face retribution for depicting Muhammad in a bear costume." That to me is instant win.
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#273 CakeBalls
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[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Demanding people censor themselves goes against the constitution, which is fairly sacred to the country. So, yeah, it does go against a form of political views in the US.

MindFreeze

You have totally lost me. This has nothing to do with any form of censorship. Its simply the fact about discrimination should be avoided in the first place then this garbage wont happen in the first place. Simple as ABC

The whole point is that we are able to criticize all other religions, views, etc., but when it comes to Islam, everyone has to shut up. This is something we as a society cannot accept. Of course, South Park takes it to the extreme, but to great effect of highlighting how ridiculous this really is. You have Buddha snorting coke, but then you have what is supposedly Muhammad in a bear costume and all hell breaks loose.

And this is the reason why Muslims will complain about anything they want - because they know they can and nobody's gonna stop them.
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The whole point is that we are able to criticize all other religions, views, etc., but when it comes to Islam, everyone has to shut up. This is something we as a society cannot accept. Of course, South Park takes it to the extreme, but to great effect of highlighting how ridiculous this really is. You have Buddha snorting coke, but then you have what is supposedly Muhammad in a bear costume and all hell breaks loose.MindFreeze

Wrong, nobody has to "shut up". Comedy Central didn't have to censor the episode. And if Trey Parker and Matt Stone want to criticize Islam, they can air the material themselves. Nobody forced them to go under contract with Comedy Central.

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#275 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

Many religions do not clash with any form of political views in any sense. While the minority may be being extremist about the thing that happened in south park, that doesnt neglect the fact this poor excuse of threats originated from something that the south park team done. Its simple, stop descriminating religion, and people will be at peace from both sides. At the rate south park is going, i wouldnt be at all suprised if they do get bombed.

Disturbed123

Demanding people censor themselves goes against the constitution, which is fairly sacred to the country. So, yeah, it does go against a form of political views in the US.

You have totally lost me. This has nothing to do with any form of censorship. Its simply the fact about discrimination should be avoided in the first place then this garbage wont happen in the first place. Simple as ABC

Not adhereing to islamic holy law=discrimination?

On the contrary, they are getting special treatment. Every other major religion gets parodied on south park. Why is it okay for those ones but discrimination when islam is involved?

How is showing a religious figure discrimination?

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They already showed him in Super Best Friends.
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]This is why I stay clear of religion. Why don't people just live their lives?Disturbed123

Why dont people just stop taking the mick out of religions? Then this crap wont be cycling every day. Its purely stereotyping and descrimination. I might aswell start making a new TV show that revolves around racism and taking the micky out of blacks. I might aswell crack jokes about my friends dead mom too. I mean it is my oppinion, its a free world isnt it?

Seriously, theres are certain topics that are sensitive to people. Just because it doesnt bother you, doesnt mean it wont bother other people.

In what way is showing Muhammed a "stereotype" or "descrimination"?

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[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Demanding people censor themselves goes against the constitution, which is fairly sacred to the country. So, yeah, it does go against a form of political views in the US.

MindFreeze

You have totally lost me. This has nothing to do with any form of censorship. Its simply the fact about discrimination should be avoided in the first place then this garbage wont happen in the first place. Simple as ABC

The whole point is that we are able to criticize all other religions, views, etc., but when it comes to Islam, everyone has to shut up. This is something we as a society cannot accept. Of course, South Park takes it to the extreme, but to great effect of highlighting how ridiculous this really is. You have Buddha snorting coke, but then you have what is supposedly Muhammad in a bear costume and all hell breaks loose.

Sorry but im not just defending Islam, its should be a norm that insults to religion shouldnt be added. Period. Its discrimination, swing and tongue twist it any way you like, bottom line, its wrong. Just because you have the right to criticize it, doesnt make it right in any form or level. Me taking the mick out of someones dead mom, i can justify what i ever bad thing i say about her but doesnt make it right does it? Same applies to religion. It shows nothing but arrogance and ******ness that people cant just leave religion out of the context of shows any more. 10 years ago this was not such an issue, now its becoming a norm to people. Why? just to seek attention and try to give Islam a bad name.

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[QUOTE="MindFreeze"]The whole point is that we are able to criticize all other religions, views, etc., but when it comes to Islam, everyone has to shut up. This is something we as a society cannot accept. Of course, South Park takes it to the extreme, but to great effect of highlighting how ridiculous this really is. You have Buddha snorting coke, but then you have what is supposedly Muhammad in a bear costume and all hell breaks loose.MrGeezer

Wrong, nobody has to "shut up". Comedy Central didn't have to censor the episode. And if Trey Parker and Matt Stone want to criticize Islam, they can air the material themselves. Nobody forced them to go under contract with Comedy Central.

For the last time, THAT'S NOT THE POINT MRGEEZER!!! No one's saying Comedy Central doesn't have the right to censor...

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#281 SpartanMSU
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[QUOTE="MindFreeze"][QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

You have totally lost me. This has nothing to do with any form of censorship. Its simply the fact about discrimination should be avoided in the first place then this garbage wont happen in the first place. Simple as ABC

Disturbed123

The whole point is that we are able to criticize all other religions, views, etc., but when it comes to Islam, everyone has to shut up. This is something we as a society cannot accept. Of course, South Park takes it to the extreme, but to great effect of highlighting how ridiculous this really is. You have Buddha snorting coke, but then you have what is supposedly Muhammad in a bear costume and all hell breaks loose.

Sorry but im not just defending Islam, its should be a norm that insults to religion shouldnt be added. Period. Its discrimination, swing and tongue twist it any way you like, bottom line, its wrong. Just because you have the right to criticize it, doesnt make it right in any form or level. Me taking the mick out of someones dead mom, i can justify what i ever bad thing i say about her but doesnt make it right does it? Same applies to religion. It shows nothing but arrogance and retardness that people cant just leave religion out of the context of shows any more. 10 years ago this was not such an issue, now its becoming a norm to people. Why? just to seek attention and try to give Islam a bad name.

Do you even know what discrimination means?

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Sorry but im not just defending Islam, its should be a norm that insults to religion shouldnt be added. Period. Its discrimination, swing and tongue twist it any way you like, bottom line, its wrong. Just because you have the right to criticize it, doesnt make it right in any form or level. Me taking the mick out of someones dead mom, i can justify what i ever bad thing i say about her but doesnt make it right does it? Same applies to religion. It shows nothing but arrogance and ******ness that people cant just leave religion out of the context of shows any more. 10 years ago this was not such an issue, now its becoming a norm to people. Why? just to seek attention and try to give Islam a bad name.

Disturbed123

Er, no offense, but I'm not sure if "discrimination" is the word you're looking for here. There is basically no sizable group in American whom South Park has not by this time made fun of in some way or another. In what way is South Park discriminating?

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Matt and Trey Respond!!!

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#284 Disturbed123
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[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Demanding people censor themselves goes against the constitution, which is fairly sacred to the country. So, yeah, it does go against a form of political views in the US.

Pixel-Pirate

You have totally lost me. This has nothing to do with any form of censorship. Its simply the fact about discrimination should be avoided in the first place then this garbage wont happen in the first place. Simple as ABC

Not adhereing to islamic holy law=discrimination?

On the contrary, they are getting special treatment. Every other major religion gets parodied on south park. Why is it okay for those ones but discrimination when islam is involved?

How is showing a religious figure discrimination?

how is discrimination related to the Islamic holy law? Its should be a norm by todays society with or without religious context. Everyone should be treated equally and no form of discrimination or racism should exist. Period. . Just shows how screwed up society really is.

Who said those insults do not bother christians, buddhas etc? Just because they dont say anything on the Gamespot forum? :roll:

If anything, why is it essential to use "Muhammed" as a name of a character? Theres no reason behind it. Muhammed was a role model to muslims and is looked upto as a role model, its the first thing we think of when we think of the name Muhammed in terms of Islam, hence why people may have found it offensive. I would be equally as offended if they used Jesus, Moses etc aswell. Its pathetic how many hits this show gets just because they insult religion, how original :roll:

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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]This is why I stay clear of religion. Why don't people just live their lives?Disturbed123

Why dont people just stop taking the mick out of religions? Then this crap wont be cycling every day. Its purely stereotyping and descrimination. I might aswell start making a new TV show that revolves around racism and taking the micky out of blacks. I might aswell crack jokes about my friends dead mom too. I mean it is my oppinion, its a free world isnt it?

Seriously, theres are certain topics that are sensitive to people. Just because it doesnt bother you, doesnt mean it wont bother other people.

I don't know why you're aiming this at me, but yeah... I'm not making fun of anything.
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#287 dkrustyklown
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@Pixel Pirate,

I don't have a problem with you defending the right to Freedom of Speech or Freedom of expression. Unfornuately, Freedom of Speech is not free from imperfections & there are limitations when Freedom of Speech becomes Hate Speech which protects individuals, race, ethnicity, nationality, sexual orientation, gender & RELIGION. True, Matt & Trey are just making fun of Prophet Mohammed but the Islamic religion deems it blasphemous so which in turns becomes a Hate Speech because it is forbidden by a religious group. So the question is why do it?

Here's the thing, Pixel Pirate. I'm all for Freedom of Speech but why use such a great liberty that has been given to us (Americans) by our fore fathers in such a profane & moronic way? To my understanding, Freedom of Speech (which is written in the Constitution) is the act of seeking, receiving & imparting information & ideas. Nowhere in there does it say to insult, slander or demean other's beliefs. Do you know why Americans are mocked at everywhere else in the World? It's because we have this notion that Freedom of Speech gives us the ability to insult others & do whatever we want in such a unintelligent manner that makes us look like morons. In actuality, Freedom of Speech/ Freedom of Expression is to pass on great ideas & information. Insulting Prophet Mohammed does nothing except making Americans look like a bunch of ignorant imbeciles & making a group of religious zealots very very mad.

If you still want to defend Matt & Trey's right to Freedom of Speech, that's fine & dandy but do so with knowing what it is about instead of waving it around like a chicken with its head cut off.

envybianchi

Firstly, hate speech is absolutely protected free speech in the United States of America. I defy you to demonstrate supreme court precedent that states otherwise. I have a huge lists of SCOTUS cases to back up my position, if you like, although any Google search of 1st amendment case law would suffice.

Secondly, just because a religion deems something to be forbidden does not make it "hate speech". Islam also forbids the consumption of pork, so does me eating bacon constitute hate speech? According to your definition, it would. That is absolutely ridiculous. Islam also forbids a great many things, and it would be unacceptable to determine all of Islam's taboos to be a fobidden for nonmuslims. To forbid all of Islam's taboos to the entire world would be incredibly burdensome, impractical, and tyrannical. There is no reason why nonmuslim should ever, under any circumstances, have to obey Islamic rules.

Freedom of speech does, in fact, give us the right to insult others. One of the main reasons for the 1st Amendment was to allow Americans to ridicule and insult any figure. I will refer you to Revolutionary era cartoons and caricatures of King George III.

In conclusion, your position is incorrect. It is incorrect factually and morally. Your ideas would have the American people subjected to religious whims which should never be imposed on anyone.

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#288 Joker_268
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tbh doing this is like saying im gona stick my hand in front of a flame thrower and see what it feels like :? honestly, they thought they'll get away with it without getting threatened. well ******* played. Im not saying they deserved the threats, im just saying it was predictable.

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#289 CakeBalls
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

You have totally lost me. This has nothing to do with any form of censorship. Its simply the fact about discrimination should be avoided in the first place then this garbage wont happen in the first place. Simple as ABC

Disturbed123

Not adhereing to islamic holy law=discrimination?

On the contrary, they are getting special treatment. Every other major religion gets parodied on south park. Why is it okay for those ones but discrimination when islam is involved?

How is showing a religious figure discrimination?

how is discrimination related to the Islamic holy law? Its should be a norm by todays society with or without religious context. Everyone should be treated equally and no form of discrimination or racism should exist. Period. . Just shows how screwed up society really is.

Who said those insults do not bother christians, buddhas etc? Just because they dont say anything on the Gamespot forum? :roll:

If anything, why is it essential to use "Muhammed" as a name of a character? Theres no reason behind it. Muhammed was a role model to muslims and is looked upto as a role model, its the first thing we think of when we think of the name Muhammed in terms of Islam, hence why people may have found it offensive. I would be equally as offended if they used Jesus, Moses etc aswell. Its pathetic how many hits this show gets just because they insult religion, how original :roll:

You know what to do if you find it offensive? Ignore it.
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#290 Disturbed123
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[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

Sorry but im not just defending Islam, its should be a norm that insults to religion shouldnt be added. Period. Its discrimination, swing and tongue twist it any way you like, bottom line, its wrong. Just because you have the right to criticize it, doesnt make it right in any form or level. Me taking the mick out of someones dead mom, i can justify what i ever bad thing i say about her but doesnt make it right does it? Same applies to religion. It shows nothing but arrogance and ******ness that people cant just leave religion out of the context of shows any more. 10 years ago this was not such an issue, now its becoming a norm to people. Why? just to seek attention and try to give Islam a bad name.

GabuEx

Er, no offense, but I'm not sure if "discrimination" is the word you're looking for here. There is basically no sizable group in American whom South Park has not by this time made fun of in some way or another. In what way is South Park discriminating?

Taking the micky out of majority of religions and religious figures is quite discriminated and downright offensive. They have taken the piss out of Islam and other religions in previous series. Maybe a large portion of religious people do not actually watch south park? hence why theres no sizable group to debate such topic? I for one quit watching southpark on season 4.

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#291 GTA_dude
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I think it's even funnier like that lol, especially the ending...
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#292 shinian
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[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]No, because shoving bacon down someone's throat is using force...you can choose not to watch South Park. I think sending death threats to people are rude...but hey, that's just me...Vandalvideo
It doesn't matter if you're flipping through the channels casually or if you're having bacon shoved down your throat. The end result is the same. If a Muslim person is casually flipping through the channels and sees Muhammed you have done just as much damage as if you were to force Bacon down someone's throat. What has been seen cannot be unseen.

So If some poor Muslim souls seen the image of Mohammad few pages earlier he would be damned? That's one harsh rule. But's that their problem not ours.

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#293 GabuEx
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Taking the micky out of majority of religions and religious figures is quite discriminated and downright offensive. They have taken the piss out of Islam and other religions in previous series. Maybe a large portion of religious people do not actually watch south park? hence why theres no sizable group to debate such topic? I for one quit watching southpark on season 4.

Disturbed123

The word "discriminate" necessarily implies making a distinction (usually negative) between something and something else. South Park makes fun of everything, without exception. Hence, no discrimination.

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#294 LJS9502_basic
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Taking the micky out of majority of religions and religious figures is quite discriminated and downright offensive. They have taken the piss out of Islam and other religions in previous series. Maybe a large portion of religious people do not actually watch south park? hence why theres no sizable group to debate such topic? I for one quit watching southpark on season 4.

Disturbed123

If someone is offended they shouldn't be watching. However, that does not mean it's proper to threaten individuals because you don't like their show. And for the record....that is not discrimination.

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#295 Disturbed123
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[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

Taking the micky out of majority of religions and religious figures is quite discriminated and downright offensive. They have taken the piss out of Islam and other religions in previous series. Maybe a large portion of religious people do not actually watch south park? hence why theres no sizable group to debate such topic? I for one quit watching southpark on season 4.

GabuEx

The word "discriminate" necessarily implies making a distinction (usually negative) between something and something else. South Park makes fun of everything, without exception. Hence, no discrimination.

While South Park mimicks practically everything, it should not involve religious culture into it. Im speaking of every religion, not just Islam. Its a clear shot to piss off people. Obviously anyone whos not a solid believer of a religious context will not understand this and will debate the same old story over n over again about "freedom of speech", which a pathetic argument because such freedom of speech such as mimicking racial backgrounds or dissing the dead aint exactly right now is it?

Definitions ofdiscriminationon the Web:

unfair treatment of a person or group on the basis of prejudice

South Park intentionally have taken the piss out of religion in the past.

Anyways im done this with debate, am out

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#296 dkrustyklown
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So If some poor Muslim souls seen the image of Mohammad few pages earlier he would be damned? That's one harsh rule. But's that their problem not ours.

shinian

Bingo! I used bold type for the best part of your post. I agree completely. Nonmuslims aren't under any obligation to ensure that islamic taboos are enforced.

Islamic law only applies to muslims. The taboos of a religious group to which I do not belong should in no way restrict my freedom of speech.

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#297 SpartanMSU
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

Sorry but im not just defending Islam, its should be a norm that insults to religion shouldnt be added. Period. Its discrimination, swing and tongue twist it any way you like, bottom line, its wrong. Just because you have the right to criticize it, doesnt make it right in any form or level. Me taking the mick out of someones dead mom, i can justify what i ever bad thing i say about her but doesnt make it right does it? Same applies to religion. It shows nothing but arrogance and ******ness that people cant just leave religion out of the context of shows any more. 10 years ago this was not such an issue, now its becoming a norm to people. Why? just to seek attention and try to give Islam a bad name.

Disturbed123

Er, no offense, but I'm not sure if "discrimination" is the word you're looking for here. There is basically no sizable group in American whom South Park has not by this time made fun of in some way or another. In what way is South Park discriminating?

Taking the micky out of majority of religions and religious figures is quite discriminated and downright offensive. They have taken the piss out of Islam and other religions in previous series. Maybe a large portion of religious people do not actually watch south park? hence why theres no sizable group to debate such topic? I for one quit watching southpark on season 4.

And yet you still don't know what "discrimination" means...

*hint: it doesn't mean making fun of something

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#298 dkrustyklown
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Obviously anyone whos not a solid believer of a religious context will not understand this and will debate the same old story over n over again about "freedom of speech", which a pathetic argument because such freedom of speech such as mimicking racial backgrounds or dissing the dead aint exactly right now is it?

Disturbed123

Actually, the 1st Amendment and American freedom of speech does, in fact, protect Americans' right to mimmick racial backgrounds and diss the dead. I suggest that you research 1st Amendment case law.

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#299 SpartanMSU
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

Taking the micky out of majority of religions and religious figures is quite discriminated and downright offensive. They have taken the piss out of Islam and other religions in previous series. Maybe a large portion of religious people do not actually watch south park? hence why theres no sizable group to debate such topic? I for one quit watching southpark on season 4.

Disturbed123

The word "discriminate" necessarily implies making a distinction (usually negative) between something and something else. South Park makes fun of everything, without exception. Hence, no discrimination.

While South Park mimicks practically everything, it should not involve religious culture into it. Im speaking of every religion, not just Islam. Its a clear shot to piss off people. Obviously anyone whos not a solid believer of a religious context will not understand this and will debate the same old story over n over again about "freedom of speech", which a pathetic argument because such freedom of speech such as mimicking racial backgrounds or dissing the dead aint exactly right now is it?

Definitions ofdiscriminationon the Web:

unfair treatment of a person or group on the basis of prejudice

South Park intentionally have taken the piss out of religion in the past.

Anyways im done this with debate, am out

If SP didn't attack religion, then it would be discriminating:lol:

Like Gabu said, they make fun of EVERYTHING, and EVERYONE. No one is off limits.

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#300 Acemaster27
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I support the efforts of the southpark producers.