So...what IS the root of all evil???

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#101 Teenaged
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Some people are sick, some people do have disorders...don't get me wrong
-but not every sociopath is 'sick'...they do not all have 'issues' or things that happened to them...IMO some people are just evil

rawsavon

And I guess we have to agree to disagree on that.

Be that because I am right or because I am just an idealist (or we may understand different things when we "hear" the word "evil"), I just dont believe that any malicious behavior/thought/intent is just there. Something caused it imo. Unless the power of genetics is greater than I can imagine. *shrugs big time*

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(sorry for cutting out the post I just dont have anything to say about the rest)

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#102 svenus97
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[QUOTE="svenus97"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] We are all capable of doing social good but that doesn't mean we are not all corrupt.

mindstorm

You still haven't given me an answer, if no man can truly love both God and mankind is there no good?

True and perfect goodness does not exist outside of Jesus Christ. However, we are capable of doing societal good in this world but are still imperfect.

Well, it looks like this discussion is over, I can't really make any argument against personal faith.

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#103 mindstorm
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Well, it looks like this discussion is over, I can't really make any argument against personal faith.

svenus97

Well, you can try to debate about how Jesus was actually a bad guy from a historical perspective. I'd have fun with the argument at least. :P

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#105 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

Some people are sick, some people do have disorders...don't get me wrong
-but not every sociopath is 'sick'...they do not all have 'issues' or things that happened to them...IMO some people are just evil

Teenaged

And I guess we have to agree to disagree on that.

Be that because I am right or because I am just an idealist (or we may understand different things when we "hear" the word "evil"), I just dont believe that any malicious behavior/thought/intent is just there. Something caused it imo. Unless the power of genetics is greater than I can imagine. *shrugs big time*

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(sorry for cutting out the post I just dont have anything to say about the rest)

I think at the very min. most people would agree that genetics accounts for at least 50% of who you are (with environment making up the other 50%)
-though I actually think that genetics plays a bigger factor (60/40)

But even at 50%...that is a great deal of who are you already being'pre-determined'

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#106 markop2003
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Humans are the route of all evil, they invented the word and the entire idea of evil
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#107 krunkmastax
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Money is duh.
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#108 rawsavon
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Money is duh.KrunkMastaX
Not really...at all :? -evil before money and will be evil after it is gone
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#109 194197844077667059316682358889
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I am. Duh.
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#110 Engrish_Major
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I am. Duh.xaos
Thus confirming what imaps3fanboy stated on page4 :o

And I was about to ask him for a source...

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#111 krunkmastax
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[QUOTE="KrunkMastaX"]Money is duh.rawsavon
Not really...at all :? -evil before money and will be evil after it is gone

Well the love of money is anyways. :P
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#112 imaps3fanboy
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I am. Duh.xaos
Proves my theory.
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#113 194197844077667059316682358889
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[QUOTE="xaos"]I am. Duh.imaps3fanboy
Proves my theory.

*curtsy*
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#114 BiancaDK
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Large communities. As always, Epicurus shows the way to the good life.

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The Man in Black, known as the smoke monster.
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#116 rawsavon
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Large communities. As always, Epicurus shows the way to the good life.

BiancaDK

hmmm....while I do not think it is the source, there is a great deal of truth in this statement
-problems/issues seem to grow disproportionately (larger) in relation to population increases in a given area

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I think it's Bono. I want to kill puppies when I hear that man's music, and I really have a soft spot for puppies.
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#118 svenus97
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[QUOTE="svenus97"]Well, it looks like this discussion is over, I can't really make any argument against personal faith.

mindstorm

Well, you can try to debate about how Jesus was actually a bad guy from a historical perspective. I'd have fun with the argument at least. :P

Fine! Jesus and Poncius Pilate are the same person! He plotted against himself to make others belive in him! :P P.S: It's true! :P
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#119 Maniacc1
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Two things. Power and money. That's... just about it. :P
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#120 Meinhard1
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*grabs a bible* I say the roots of the Tree of Knowledge are the roots of evil. *waves bible in the air*
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#121 Teenaged
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I think at the very min. most people would agree that genetics accounts for at least 50% of who you are (with environment making up the other 50%)
-though I actually think that genetics plays a bigger factor (60/40)

But even at 50%...that is a great deal of who are you already being'pre-determined'

rawsavon

Well then......... its good your genes differ from the genes of those relatives of yours. :P

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#122 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Yay condoms!

Teenaged
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Lol, Dick Cheney has the most votes. I'd have to say Sex, it leads to many problems. Money and Power also lead to problems, probably the same problems just on a different level. Sex has the implication of Diseases and Spreading of that disease so, I'm going to say it's worse.

ghoklebutter
I fail to see how sex leads to more problems than power and money...

That doesn't completely eliminate the possibility of spreading disease. And not everyone uses one of those either.
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#124 xhellcatx
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Money. Because Money = power, power = sex. ... sometimes money= sex too, depending on how much they are charging. and Money = Dick cause without money or power he is nothing but another guy.
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#125 BiancaDK
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[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]

Large communities. As always, Epicurus shows the way to the good life.

rawsavon

hmmm....while I do not think it is the source, there is a great deal of truth in this statement
-problems/issues seem to grow disproportionately (larger) in relation to population increases in a given area

It's just a somewhat pragmatic answer to completely arbitrary question, no?

I'd usually go "evil doesn't exist outside subjective perception" on this, but where's the fun in that. That's not really an answer, that's just refuting the premise of the question itself.

"Root of all evil". Just look at it, it's practically begging to be crapped all over by reductionist notions. Let's say humans are the root of all evil. Or the evolutionary mechanic. Or life. Or our universe springing into existance by quantum mechanics. Or God scripting quantum mechanics to spring our universe into existance. Bla bla bla.

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#126 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Yay condoms!

Teenaged

That doesn't completely eliminate the possibility of spreading disease. And not everyone uses one of those either.

For the most part it does though and that is a very good thing.

And obviously anyone should use one of these if they want to avoid diseases.

I am just trying to clarify on your point that "sex leads to disease". Sure it can. But it can be avoided most of the times.

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free thought, mammals and other beings that cause harm to others for reasons other then sustaining their own being
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#128 surrealnumber5
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so far 11 people have voted money, money is only a means to make barter simple if you voted money i feel sorry for you
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#129 xhellcatx
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so far 11 people have voted money, money is only a means to make barter simple if you voted money i feel sorry for yousurrealnumber5
Intentions for it may be simple such as, but intentions, no matter how good they are made to be, can have the worst consequences.
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#130 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]so far 11 people have voted money, money is only a means to make barter simple if you voted money i feel sorry for youxhellcatx
Intentions for it may be simple such as, but intentions, no matter how good they are made to be, can have the worst consequences.

would you rather have pure barter or no interpersonal trade whats so ever?
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#131 xhellcatx
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[QUOTE="xhellcatx"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]so far 11 people have voted money, money is only a means to make barter simple if you voted money i feel sorry for yousurrealnumber5
Intentions for it may be simple such as, but intentions, no matter how good they are made to be, can have the worst consequences.

would you rather have pure barter or no interpersonal trade whats so ever?

Never said that. Its not a matter of what I would rather have, we need money, but that doesnt mean that money is innocent. Money is essentially the cause of the problem (well ultra technically its people, because people use the money... and so on with my previous equation), but we still need it, unless we do supply bartering... "a pound of flour for that "50 flat screen" (yea obviously it would be worth more then a pound of flour, but basically...) ... and supply bartering just sucks.
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#132 rawsavon
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Well then......... its good your genes differ from the genes of those relatives of yours. :P

Teenaged

I think my mom messed around on my dad :lol:
-well, at least I hope she did (or I am ****ed)

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#133 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]

Large communities. As always, Epicurus shows the way to the good life.

BiancaDK

hmmm....while I do not think it is the source, there is a great deal of truth in this statement
-problems/issues seem to grow disproportionately (larger) in relation to population increases in a given area

It's just a somewhat pragmatic answer to completely arbitrary question, no?

I'd usually go "evil doesn't exist outside subjective perception" on this, but where's the fun in that. That's not really an answer, that's just refuting the premise of the question itself.

"Root of all evil". Just look at it, it's practically begging to be crapped all over by reductionist notions. Let's say humans are the root of all evil. Or the evolutionary mechanic. Or life. Or our universe springing into existance by quantum mechanics. Or God scripting quantum mechanics to spring our universe into existance. Bla bla bla.

I am glad you did not go with that answer...I rather enjoyed thinking about the one you did post (much more so than I would have the other)

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#134 tocklestein2005
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Greed... Its always about greed.. The greed for power, wealth, etc etc..

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I shoulda put that instead of money.
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#136 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Well then......... its good your genes differ from the genes of those relatives of yours. :P

rawsavon

I think my mom messed around on my dad :lol:
-well, at least I hope she did (or I am ****ed)

Do you mean............. :O ?

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#137 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Well then......... its good your genes differ from the genes of those relatives of yours. :P

Teenaged

I think my mom messed around on my dad :lol:
-well, at least I hope she did (or I am ****ed)

Do you mean............. :O ?

Take that how you will...though I hope I did not get their combo that resulted in some other bad mixes...and I know I had to get my mom's DNA at the very least

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#138 gameboy343
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free will.
choices are always different and you hate people who choose differently then you. in the extreme anyway.

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#139 MgamerBD
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It has to be power...cause it feels oh so good...
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#140 Treflis
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Choices.

Don't get me wrong, I think we should be able to choose what to do rather then be directed, but it's ultimately a consequence of one or more choices that can fall within the Evil therm.

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#141 _R34LiTY_
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Human ambition

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LustSolid_Tango
With that avatar, I bet many many people are lusting after you.
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#144 tocklestein2005
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Well everyone knows its Dick Cheney-Hells_Gate-
yea, he's still winning...
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#146 Deihjan
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 Wait, sorry... the root of all evil, you say? I dunno. Women?
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#147 194197844077667059316682358889
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[QUOTE="Deihjan"] Wait, sorry... the root of all evil, you say? I dunno.

Oh, indeed
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#148 hoola
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Taking things from other people is what is evil. We can be 100% selfish, but still not take from others. Money is only evil when you take from others because of it, Power is not evil unless you take from others to get it. Nothing is evil besides taking things from other people.

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#149 Deihjan
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[QUOTE="xaos"] Oh, indeed

Daps :lol:
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#150 tocklestein2005
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Xaos. Hes satan.imaps3fanboy

Xaos, apparently YOU are the root of all evil...