So...why would ANYONE even want to disprove religion?

As the topic of the thread says, why would you? There are people out there, scientists, atheists, etc...that wish to disprove religion. Why? I myself am not religious, and at this point in my life would say I'm leaning more towards atheism (sorry, I just dont think Eve ate an apple and we're all sinners now? : /).

HOWEVER, why want to disprove it? Take a guess at what the single most powerful force in the entire world is. It's Faith. 90-95% of the world believes in "something"; a god, a higher being. So let's say we do find scientific evidence that completely discredits religion...would it be worth it to crush 90-95% of the world's faith? Would it be worth it to take away the reason 90-95% of people get up in the morning, go to work, become motivated, and enjoy there lives? Whatever your stance on religion, one thing is certain: those who firmly believe in it tend to be very content with thier lives. Faith built the pyramids, Faith made Columbus' journey to the new world possible, Faith made the United States of America, and Faith brought about the discoveries of logic, reason, and science. What if 90-95% of the entire planet lost something to believe in...what would happen? It could be catastrophic.

Let's also not confuse the word "Faith". Faith isn't just a word pertaining to religion; scientists have faith in what they do, what they believe. Saying you don't believe in something, anything at all, that keeps you motivated and helps you enjoy life...that's a stretch and rather ridiculous. Everyone has faith in sometihng, even the most hardcore of Atheists or the people who swear by evolution. Faith in science, perhaps.

My point is, why even attempt to disprove religion? There is absolutely not one single positive outcome this could have on the planet...the only thing it would do is destroy the most powerful force in the entire world.

Faith

I believe in something

evolution

I believe in something

evolution

fredyfish

As do I.

Read the post.

People try to disprove religion because they think their answer is the only possible one.

EDIT: Also, the thing about Adam and Eve, is just a story to make a point.

we should disprove religion it starts too many conflicts

Why would anyone want to disprove religion?

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I could put it on my resume

Why would anyone want to disprove religion?

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I could put it on my resume

Kuhu

lolololol

10lolz

No one would dare.

Quoted from Wikipedia:

''...here's what I really think about the theory of evolution: It's not real. It is not the way we got here. In fact, the life you see on this planet is really just a list of creatures God has allowed to live. We are not creations of random chance. We are not accidents. There is a God, a Creator, who made you and me. We were made in His image, which separates us from all other creatures.''

- Chuck Norris

I've been trying to think of a good reason for this. I've come up with nothing.

we should disprove religion it starts too many conflicts

fredyfish

Atheism doesn't? Wow. :o

Because religion is old, do we really still need it? I understand that if religion existed no more people's culture wouldn't really be great at all and would just be bland. Religions like christianity on the other hand I wouldn't mind.

Because religion is old, do we really still need it? I understand that if religion existed no more people's culture wouldn't really be great at all and would just be bland. Religions like christianity on the other hand I wouldn't mind.

tzar3

It's not so much culture that would be the issue though. It's more that essentially THE entire world believes in something.

How would they react if you took that "something" away completely that they've believed in for their entire lives?

No one would dare.

Quoted from Wikipedia:

''...here's what I really think about the theory of evolution: It's not real. It is not the way we got here. In fact, the life you see on this planet is really just a list of creatures God has allowed to live. We are not creations of random chance. We are not accidents. There is a God, a Creator, who made you and me. We were made in His image, which separates us from all other creatures.''

- Chuck Norris

vlin1108

Well, this proves it.

If Chuck Norris prays to God, then God is the Chuck Norris of Heaven.:o

[QUOTE="tzar3"]

Because religion is old, do we really still need it? I understand that if religion existed no more people's culture wouldn't really be great at all and would just be bland. Religions like christianity on the other hand I wouldn't mind.

duble_Needler23

It's not so much culture that would be the issue though. It's more that essentially THE entire world believes in something.

How would they react if you took that "something" away completely that they've believed in for their entire lives?

A couple of things could happen, either they think hard on it and just move on, riots and violence, or they still believe in something regardless and perhaps more, but I dont know.

Insecurity.Theokhoth

Exactly.

id imagine because it would validate their own beliefs. some people are insecure with their beliefs. some people want attention. others just feel the need to spread what they believe is the truth (though id say that this group is in an EXTREME minority).

personally, im all for letting people go about their own business. thats not to say that i wont poke fun of it a little. lets face it. nobody should take anything too seriously. and this what many people do with religion and ,yes, even atheism.

No one would dare.

Quoted from Wikipedia:

''...here's what I really think about the theory of evolution: It's not real. It is not the way we got here. In fact, the life you see on this planet is really just a list of creatures God has allowed to live. We are not creations of random chance. We are not accidents. There is a God, a Creator, who made you and me. We were made in His image, which separates us from all other creatures.''

- Chuck Norris

vlin1108

if anybody were to know about god, it would be chuck norris.

[QUOTE="vlin1108"]

No one would dare.

Quoted from Wikipedia:

''...here's what I really think about the theory of evolution: It's not real. It is not the way we got here. In fact, the life you see on this planet is really just a list of creatures God has allowed to live. We are not creations of random chance. We are not accidents. There is a God, a Creator, who made you and me. We were made in His image, which separates us from all other creatures.''

- Chuck Norris

LoG-Sacrament

if anybody were to know about god, it would be chuck norris.

Yeah, considering he IS one!

I am not interested in disproving religion for the sake of it. I am interested in disseminating truth, in the hope that the ignorant masses will eventually adopt reason.MilkMaster69

It is ignorant to say all religions are wrong without any real proof.

I don't understand why people can't just have beliefs without trying to change others.Big_player

"beliefs" are illogical. True understanding is.

No one would dare.

Quoted from Wikipedia:

''...here's what I really think about the theory of evolution: It's not real. It is not the way we got here. In fact, the life you see on this planet is really just a list of creatures God has allowed to live. We are not creations of random chance. We are not accidents. There is a God, a Creator, who made you and me. We were made in His image, which separates us from all other creatures.''

- Chuck Norris

vlin1108

Why so modest, Chuck?:P

[QUOTE="Big_player"]I don't understand why people can't just have beliefs without trying to change others.MilkMaster69

"beliefs" are illogical. True understanding is.

Prove every religion wrong right now.

[QUOTE="MilkMaster69"]

[QUOTE="Big_player"]I don't understand why people can't just have beliefs without trying to change others.harashawn

"beliefs" are illogical. True understanding is.

Prove every religion wrong right now.

The severe lack of empirical evidence.

[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="MilkMaster69"]

[QUOTE="Big_player"]I don't understand why people can't just have beliefs without trying to change others.MilkMaster69

"beliefs" are illogical. True understanding is.

Prove every religion wrong right now.

The mere connotation of the word religion denotes a half-baked non-scientific socially-fabricated working theory of the world around us, and no matter how steeped in tradition it may be, why the hell should any sane, rational human being buy into such unfounded crap, despite how "good" it may make them feel inside, if they know in their heart it is a lie!?

Is that proof?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Insecurity.omfg_its_dally

Exactly.

its pretty funny how religious folk think that atheists are insecure in themselves and their beliefs and atheists think that religious folk are stupid. I wonder who is right.,

[QUOTE="MilkMaster69"][QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="MilkMaster69"]

[QUOTE="Big_player"]I don't understand why people can't just have beliefs without trying to change others.harashawn

"beliefs" are illogical. True understanding is.

Prove every religion wrong right now.

The mere connotation of the word religion denotes a half-baked non-scientific socially-fabricated working theory of the world around us, and no matter how steeped in tradition it may be, why the hell should any sane, rational human being buy into such unfounded crap, despite how "good" it may make them feel inside, if they know in their heart it is a lie!?

Is that proof?

Science is based on unbiased statistics, and if statistically the way of life comes out the same again and again, I'm inclined to believe it. There is no God. There is no Afterlife. All life is just a complex mess of biochemical interactions. As for the factor of humanity, it may be irrational, but work within the bogus laws of humanity to solve our "human" problems, don't leave it up to some imaginary Deity to do it for us.

[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="MilkMaster69"][QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="MilkMaster69"]

[QUOTE="Big_player"]I don't understand why people can't just have beliefs without trying to change others.MilkMaster69

"beliefs" are illogical. True understanding is.

Prove every religion wrong right now.

The mere connotation of the word religion denotes a half-baked non-scientific socially-fabricated working theory of the world around us, and no matter how steeped in tradition it may be, why the hell should any sane, rational human being buy into such unfounded crap, despite how "good" it may make them feel inside, if they know in their heart it is a lie!?

Is that proof?

Science is based on unbiased statistics, and if statistically the way of life comes out the same again and again, I'm inclined to beleive it. There is no God. There is no Afterlife. All life is just a complex mess of biochemical interactions. As for the factor of humanity, it may be irrational, but work within the bogus laws of humanity to salve our "human" problems, don't leave it up to some bogus diety to do it for us.

You have to learn you may not always be right. Live with the fact that your theory has loopholes and so does everyone else's.

[QUOTE="MilkMaster69"][QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="MilkMaster69"][QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="MilkMaster69"]

[QUOTE="Big_player"]I don't understand why people can't just have beliefs without trying to change others.harashawn

"beliefs" are illogical. True understanding is.

Prove every religion wrong right now.

The mere connotation of the word religion denotes a half-baked non-scientific socially-fabricated working theory of the world around us, and no matter how steeped in tradition it may be, why the hell should any sane, rational human being buy into such unfounded crap, despite how "good" it may make them feel inside, if they know in their heart it is a lie!?

Is that proof?

Science is based on unbiased statistics, and if statistically the way of life comes out the same again and again, I'm inclined to beleive it. There is no God. There is no Afterlife. All life is just a complex mess of biochemical interactions. As for the factor of humanity, it may be irrational, but work within the bogus laws of humanity to salve our "human" problems, don't leave it up to some bogus diety to do it for us.

You have to learn you may not always be right. Live with the fact that your theory has loopholes and so does everyone else's.

One has to work within reason, and I will not reasonably accept that maybe my version of reality is somehow warped, because I know better, and there is plenty of statistical evidence to prove it.

[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="MilkMaster69"][QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="MilkMaster69"][QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="MilkMaster69"]

[QUOTE="Big_player"]I don't understand why people can't just have beliefs without trying to change others.MilkMaster69

"beliefs" are illogical. True understanding is.

Prove every religion wrong right now.

The mere connotation of the word religion denotes a half-baked non-scientific socially-fabricated working theory of the world around us, and no matter how steeped in tradition it may be, why the hell should any sane, rational human being buy into such unfounded crap, despite how "good" it may make them feel inside, if they know in their heart it is a lie!?

Is that proof?

Science is based on unbiased statistics, and if statistically the way of life comes out the same again and again, I'm inclined to beleive it. There is no God. There is no Afterlife. All life is just a complex mess of biochemical interactions. As for the factor of humanity, it may be irrational, but work within the bogus laws of humanity to salve our "human" problems, don't leave it up to some bogus diety to do it for us.

You have to learn you may not always be right. Live with the fact that your theory has loopholes and so does everyone else's.

One has to work within reason, and I will not reasonably accept that maybe my version of reality is somehow warped, because I know better.

Ignorance is bliss, i guess. Think what you want, doesn't make you right.

I really don't feel like giving a long, complex explanation right now, but I have nothing against faith, faith is indeed very good for those who have it, it drives them to do great things, or sometimes just gives them a reason to get up in the morning and go about their daliy lives.

I have nothing against faith, my grudge is against organized religion, all of them.

[QUOTE="MilkMaster69"][QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="MilkMaster69"][QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="MilkMaster69"][QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="MilkMaster69"]

[QUOTE="Big_player"]I don't understand why people can't just have beliefs without trying to change others.harashawn

"beliefs" are illogical. True understanding is.

Prove every religion wrong right now.

The mere connotation of the word religion denotes a half-baked non-scientific socially-fabricated working theory of the world around us, and no matter how steeped in tradition it may be, why the hell should any sane, rational human being buy into such unfounded crap, despite how "good" it may make them feel inside, if they know in their heart it is a lie!?

Is that proof?

Science is based on unbiased statistics, and if statistically the way of life comes out the same again and again, I'm inclined to beleive it. There is no God. There is no Afterlife. All life is just a complex mess of biochemical interactions. As for the factor of humanity, it may be irrational, but work within the bogus laws of humanity to salve our "human" problems, don't leave it up to some bogus diety to do it for us.

You have to learn you may not always be right. Live with the fact that your theory has loopholes and so does everyone else's.

One has to work within reason, and I will not reasonably accept that maybe my version of reality is somehow warped, because I know better.

Ignorance is bliss, i guess. Think what you want, doesn't make you right.

It seems to be that people assume that without religion people would suddenly knock down all their moral walls and become evil.

It's not as if religion is some inprenatrable wall holding back all the evil in the world. If something did somehow "disprove" religion true believers wouldn't take any notice and we'd be in the exact same place we are now (those who believe and those who do not). However, for the sake of argument lets say these peoples faiths were gone... I doubt everyone is going to go around having sex and killing people because "now they can". No. People have morals regardless of religion. Law/morals are based on religious veiws but are not bound or controled by them.
DigitalExile

Religion leads to greed, power hunger, bigotry, ignorance, war and holds society back.

Example of greed and power: Christian church worth billions and could help millions of poverty and sick people. They choose not too and instead tell them that god will help if they worship him.

Bigoty: Do I need to explain this?

Ignorance: "Evolotion is a lie"

War: Crusades, Jihads, about 1000 others.

Holds society back: Trys to counter a lot of science including stem cell research would could cure millions of people of various things.


darklord888

1. Ever hear of missions in Africa?

3. That can go either way.

4. USA attacked Iraq for reasons other than religion.

5. Maybe we shouldn't try playing God. Ever think about that?