Stanley Kubrick is the most overrated director of all time. SPOILERS!

... But I love A Clockwork Orange.. :( I guess I gotta hate it now because Kubrick is too mainstream

Wolf-Man2006

I actually have alot more patience for the movie version of a Clockwork Orange than the book.

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... But I love A Clockwork Orange.. :( I guess I gotta hate it now because Kubrick is too mainstream

GreySeal9

I actually have alot more patience for the movie version of a Clockwork Orange than the book.

I wanna check out the book at some point just to see the differences between the book and the movie

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... But I love A Clockwork Orange.. :( I guess I gotta hate it now because Kubrick is too mainstream

Wolf-Man2006

I actually have alot more patience for the movie version of a Clockwork Orange than the book.

I wanna check out the book at some point just to see the differences between the book and the movie

Full Metal Jacket is the greatest war movie of all time. TonyDanzaFan

I am ashamed to still frequent this site with all I am seeing here. I don't see how 2001 is boring, but I guess it's because I go in with the fitting mindset and have enough patience and interest to absorb it all. It is a visually and thematically riveting experience and remains in my top 5. And on top of that Kubrick has made many films, several of which I adore. He is probably my second or third favourite director.

greatest war movie of all time.drinkerofjuice

I would actually give that title to The Thin Red Line, but that is my opinion and I know people who find Kubrick's stuff boring/overrated will do the same for Malick.

[QUOTE="TonyDanzaFan"]Full Metal Jacket is the greatest war movie of all time. drinkerofjuice

The problem is the first 30 minutes are too good to the point thats really the only reason you need to see FMJ

Full Metal Jacket is the greatest war movie of all time. TonyDanzaFan

[QUOTE="TonyDanzaFan"]Full Metal Jacket is the greatest war movie of all time. BreakingDeath

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[QUOTE="BreakingDeath"][QUOTE="TonyDanzaFan"]Full Metal Jacket is the greatest war movie of all time. lazerface216

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I dunno. I like some of his films, but I think most of them didn't live up to his legendary status. The only one I really loved was Full Metal Jacket. I did watch Eyes Wide Shut lately. It was pretty crappy.

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[QUOTE="BreakingDeath"] Saving Private Ryan says hello. Wolf-Man2006

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Even Platoon says hello

9 Rota (9th Legion), Idi i Smotri (Come and See) and Das Boot also send their regards.

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DraugenCP

Even Platoon says hello

9 Rota (9th Legion), Idi i Smotri (Come and See) and Das Boot also send their regards.

This "movie" also sends its regards:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I3zCQzZx68

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Even Platoon says hello

Wolf-Man2006

9 Rota (9th Legion), Idi i Smotri (Come and See) and Das Boot also send their regards.

This "movie" also sends its regards:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I3zCQzZx68

Haha, nice one.

But now that I actually think of it, Full Metal Jacket craps all over Saving Private Ryan.

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9 Rota (9th Legion), Idi i Smotri (Come and See) and Das Boot also send their regards.

DraugenCP

This "movie" also sends its regards:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I3zCQzZx68

Haha, nice one.

But now that I actually think of it, Full Metal Jacket craps all over Saving Private Ryan.

craps all over? let's let up on the hyperbole please. jesus, this place is flooded with it...

What about Eyes Wide Shut and A.I.?DevilMightCry

a.i.?

craps all over? let's let up on the hyperbole please. jesus, this place is flooded with it...lazerface216

Yeah, basically. Saving Private Ryan was spectacular in terms of production, but I thought it wasn't challenging enough from an intellectual/moral point of view. Full Metal Jacket was quite a bit better at this, which is why I think it is much more successful as a war flick.

What about Eyes Wide Shut and A.I.?DevilMightCry

2001 - This movie wasn't good at all. [spoiler] The first half is good with all the monkeys lol. But then they add HAL which occupies a large part of the movie but really doesn't add ANYTHING. Then the last part you see a bunch of colours for 20 minutes and then they're in a room for no reason. So in conclusion; first half=good and beautiful but second part pointless. [/spoiler]

Dr. Strangelove - Is this suppose to be a comedy? wtf???

Clockwork Orange - Haven't actually seen this one but I heard some people say it sucks.

charlesdarwin55

You're an idiot.

[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]As a director...yea he is. He's more of a writer than director. KC_Hokie

He wrote Ep 4 only, and he didn't write a single Indiana Jones. He's neither a very good director nor a good writer. He's good at having *ideas* but taking an idea and making a movie out of it are two very different things.

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[QUOTE="BreakingDeath"] Saving Private Ryan says hello. Wolf-Man2006

apocalyse now says hello.

Even Platoon says hello

The Thin Red Line also says hello.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"] Has he written anything good? nunovlopes

He wrote Ep 4 only, and he didn't write a single Indiana Jones. He's neither a very good director nor a good writer. He's good at having *ideas* but taking an idea and making a movie out of it are two very different things.

2001 is fantastic. A lot of people don't understand the plot but that's probably because they didn't read the novel.

Full Metal Jacket however is absolute garbage. As an anti-war film it's hilarious, as a film that's supposed to show the reality of war it's hilarious, and as an overall movie it's more of a mediocre comedy than anything. That is, after the second half. :P

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He is overrated but The Shining was awesome. Spartacus was also really good.

Most overrated director is Quentin Tarantino.

KC_Hokie

The part with the monkeys was horrible, the part with HAL was really good and the part with the colors is probably they best thing that has ever been on a tv, as long as you know how to watch it, listening to Echoes by Pink Floyd helps.

People need to shut up about Full Metal Jacket. Paths of Glory > Full Metal Jacket. It is the Kubrick war film.sammyjenkis898

Yep. Was actually about to post this.

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[QUOTE="BreakingDeath"] Saving Private Ryan says hello. Wolf-Man2006

apocalyse now says hello.

Even Platoon says hello

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]craps all over? let's let up on the hyperbole please. jesus, this place is flooded with it...DraugenCP

Yeah, basically. Saving Private Ryan was spectacular in terms of production, but I thought it wasn't challenging enough from an intellectual/moral point of view. Full Metal Jacket was quite a bit better at this, which is why I think it is much more successful as a war flick.

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[QUOTE="lazerface216"]craps all over? let's let up on the hyperbole please. jesus, this place is flooded with it...BreakingDeath

Yeah, basically. Saving Private Ryan was spectacular in terms of production, but I thought it wasn't challenging enough from an intellectual/moral point of view. Full Metal Jacket was quite a bit better at this, which is why I think it is much more successful as a war flick.

I think that's a great deal of what makes a war film interesting, yes, and part of what establishes the emotional connection between the film and the viewer (at least for me). I beg to differ on the 'better acting' part, by the way.

In the end, I always focus on how the subject of war is presented. This doesn't mean that I don't appreciate great acting and 'a compelling story' in the sense of it being more focused and linear (although Hollywood stories often fail to compell after you've discovered the fairly simple formula behind it), but I'm just saying that I expect a director to do something a bit more sophisticated with such explosive subject matter than what a lot of titles in the genre boil down to. Now, Saving Private Ryan was by no means a bad movie, but instead consider Charlie Wilson's War. That film had some amazing acting and high production values, yet it was still terrible due to its morally infantile nature. Granted, from a cinematographic point of view it was also poor due to the lack of proper pacing, but you get the point. I think war is probably one of the most interesting historical and moral topics, but with most war films it's as if I'm watching someone's masturbatory fantasies of heroism put to screen. SPV wasn't that bad in this sense, but I am merely trying to explain why I find this aspect very important in a war film.

Kubrick is brilliant, you can quote me on that

[QUOTE="BreakingDeath"][QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

Yeah, basically. Saving Private Ryan was spectacular in terms of production, but I thought it wasn't challenging enough from an intellectual/moral point of view. Full Metal Jacket was quite a bit better at this, which is why I think it is much more successful as a war flick.

DraugenCP

I think that's a great deal of what makes a war film interesting, yes, and part of what establishes the emotional connection between the film and the viewer (at least for me). I beg to differ on the 'better acting' part, by the way.

In the end, I always focus on how the subject of war is presented. This doesn't mean that I don't appreciate great acting and 'a compelling story' in the sense of it being more focused and linear (although Hollywood stories often fail to compell after you've discovered the fairly simple formula behind it), but I'm just saying that I expect a director to do something a bit more sophisticated with such explosive subject matter than what a lot of titles in the genre boil down to. Now, Saving Private Ryan was by no means a bad movie, but instead consider Charlie Wilson's War. That film had some amazing acting and high production values, yet it was still terrible due to its morally infantile nature. Granted, from a cinematographic point of view it was also poor due to the lack of proper pacing, but you get the point. I think war is probably one of the most interesting historical and moral topics, but with most war films it's as if I'm watching someone's masturbatory fantasies of heroism put to screen. SPV wasn't that bad in this sense, but I am merely trying to explain why I find this aspect very important in a war film.

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2001 - This movie wasn't good at all. [spoiler] The first half is good with all the monkeys lol. But then they add HAL which occupies a large part of the movie but really doesn't add ANYTHING. Then the last part you see a bunch of colours for 20 minutes and then they're in a room for no reason. So in conclusion; first half=good and beautiful but second part pointless. [/spoiler]

Dr. Strangelove - Is this suppose to be a comedy? wtf???

Clockwork Orange - Haven't actually seen this one but I heard some people say it sucks.

VERTIGO47

You're an idiot.

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]craps all over? let's let up on the hyperbole please. jesus, this place is flooded with it...DraugenCP

Yeah, basically. Saving Private Ryan was spectacular in terms of production, but I thought it wasn't challenging enough from an intellectual/moral point of view. Full Metal Jacket was quite a bit better at this, which is why I think it is much more successful as a war flick.

Full Metal Jacket was horrible, the whole thing felt so disjointed and the character development was horrible. You can't simply switch protogonists and plots halfway through the film after none of the characters were developed well and then expect us to care.

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[QUOTE="lazerface216"]craps all over? let's let up on the hyperbole please. jesus, this place is flooded with it...DarkGamer007

Yeah, basically. Saving Private Ryan was spectacular in terms of production, but I thought it wasn't challenging enough from an intellectual/moral point of view. Full Metal Jacket was quite a bit better at this, which is why I think it is much more successful as a war flick.

Full Metal Jacket was horrible, the whole thing felt so disjointed and the character development was horrible. You can't simply switch protogonists and plots halfway through the film after none of the characters were developed well and then expect us to care.

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[QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

Yeah, basically. Saving Private Ryan was spectacular in terms of production, but I thought it wasn't challenging enough from an intellectual/moral point of view. Full Metal Jacket was quite a bit better at this, which is why I think it is much more successful as a war flick.

-Sun_Tzu-

Full Metal Jacket was horrible, the whole thing felt so disjointed and the character development was horrible. You can't simply switch protogonists and plots halfway through the film after none of the characters were developed well and then expect us to care.

I never said you did, but Joker and Cowboy barely had any chemistry.