Superman VS SSJ4 Gogeta

[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="munu9"]

[QUOTE="clayron"] See, you quantify GOku's power; whereas, Superman power, as far as we know, has never really reached a limit. I said it before and I will say it now. Sneezing out solar systems. Breaks the bonds of infinity.
munu9

At super sayian 2, it was calculated that goku had the power to blow up like 10 planets. At SSJ4, he's 49 times stronger. How many planets does superman have the power to blow up? Last time I checked he could barely destroy a sky scraper :?

Did he ever do it or threaten to do that? Or proven to be able to do that?

people, lets remember we're talking about ssj4 gogeta and superman. not goku and superman. so stop saying oh goku wouldnt stand a chance or whatever. we are talking about the fusion of the 2 strongest saiyans, vegeta and goku at the strongest stage; super saiyan 4.

most of you superman supporters dont know about gogeta and are just comparing to goku. SSJ4 Gogeta is SO many times stronger then goku by himself. its ridiculous.

Lets not be fanboys and just see superman and be OMG SUPERMAN IS GREAT HE'D WIN

or OMG GOGETA PWNS HE'LL WIN!

instead bring up a good arguement.

of course I think Gogeta would win, as ive stated before, I believe superman is very strong...in HIS universe. But the DBZ universe [IMO] has WAY higher standards in strength. Power levels that are over exaggerated. Detroying planets here and there with simple ki attacks. I just dont think Superman; as incredible as he is; would win. I mean just watch the battle between Omega Shenron and SSJ4 Gogeta. Shenron was supposed to be this immortal being that was completely destroying the DBZ fighters, then Gogeta comes along and Shenron uses his "Strongest Attack" to the back of Gogeta and Gogeta jus STANDS there and laughs. Thats strength.

[QUOTE="clayron"]If Superman were to hit near or exceed light speed anywhere near civilization everything, EVERYTHING, would die. munu9

Superman can't go anywhere near the speed of light, he can only go as fast as a speeding bullet. Which is 5,000ft/s MAX. Which is about 3500mph. And that's a bullet from a modern sniper rifle, not a normal handgun bullet back when superman was created. (which is much, much slower) Once goku masters teleportation he can go at the speed of light in a normal battle. Speed of light >>>>> 3500mph

Actually, Superman HAS gone the speed of light and beyond. Multiple times.

[QUOTE="clayron"] See, you quantify GOku's power; whereas, Superman power, as far as we know, has never really reached a limit. I said it before and I will say it now. Sneezing out solar systems. Breaks the bonds of infinity.
munu9

At super sayian 2, it was calculated that goku had the power to blow up like 10 planets. At SSJ4, he's 49 times stronger. How many planets does superman have the power to blow up? Last time I checked he could barely destroy a sky scraper :?

Characters in DBZ/GT can barely pick up a building, barely hold a mountain. Superman can easily THROW mountains. Also, Superman has destoryed planets multiple times. In physical strength, Superman wins, in speed Superman wins.

[QUOTE="munu9"]

[QUOTE="clayron"]If Superman were to hit near or exceed light speed anywhere near civilization everything, EVERYTHING, would die. Manly-manly-man

Superman can't go anywhere near the speed of light, he can only go as fast as a speeding bullet. Which is 5,000ft/s MAX. Which is about 3500mph. And that's a bullet from a modern sniper rifle, not a normal handgun bullet back when superman was created. (which is much, much slower) Once goku masters teleportation he can go at the speed of light in a normal battle. Speed of light >>>>> 3500mph

Actually, Superman HAS gone the speed of light and beyond. Multiple times.

[QUOTE="clayron"] See, you quantify GOku's power; whereas, Superman power, as far as we know, has never really reached a limit. I said it before and I will say it now. Sneezing out solar systems. Breaks the bonds of infinity.
munu9

At super sayian 2, it was calculated that goku had the power to blow up like 10 planets. At SSJ4, he's 49 times stronger. How many planets does superman have the power to blow up? Last time I checked he could barely destroy a sky scraper :?

Characters in DBZ/GT can barely pick up a building, barely hold a mountain. Superman can easily THROW mountains. Also, Superman has destoryed planets multiple times. In physical strength, Superman wins, in speed Superman wins.

Have you watched Dragonball GT and Z when you were younger? Goku nearly blew up a planet when he turned SS1 :o and he wasn't attacking, he was transforming

[QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"][QUOTE="munu9"]

[QUOTE="clayron"]If Superman were to hit near or exceed light speed anywhere near civilization everything, EVERYTHING, would die. Kikouken

Superman can't go anywhere near the speed of light, he can only go as fast as a speeding bullet. Which is 5,000ft/s MAX. Which is about 3500mph. And that's a bullet from a modern sniper rifle, not a normal handgun bullet back when superman was created. (which is much, much slower) Once goku masters teleportation he can go at the speed of light in a normal battle. Speed of light >>>>> 3500mph

Actually, Superman HAS gone the speed of light and beyond. Multiple times.

[QUOTE="clayron"] See, you quantify GOku's power; whereas, Superman power, as far as we know, has never really reached a limit. I said it before and I will say it now. Sneezing out solar systems. Breaks the bonds of infinity.
munu9

At super sayian 2, it was calculated that goku had the power to blow up like 10 planets. At SSJ4, he's 49 times stronger. How many planets does superman have the power to blow up? Last time I checked he could barely destroy a sky scraper :?

Characters in DBZ/GT can barely pick up a building, barely hold a mountain. Superman can easily THROW mountains. Also, Superman has destoryed planets multiple times. In physical strength, Superman wins, in speed Superman wins.

Have you watched Dragonball GT and Z when you were younger? Goku nearly blew up a planet when he turned SS1 :o and he wasn't attacking, he was transforming

What's your point? Superman is physically stronger and faster. Look it up on google,there's tons of other discussions with more proof then you should ever need.

C4_Yourself you're wrong DBZ could whip superman any day, any night, any time, any place, any where

Now try to prove ME wrong

Hmph:lol:

What's your point? Superman is physically stronger and faster. Look it up on google,there's tons of other discussions with more proof then you should ever need.

Manly-manly-man

Nah, I'm even convinced Gohan (little boy) could beat him.

[QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"]

What's your point? Superman is physically stronger and faster. Look it up on google,there's tons of other discussions with more proof then you should ever need.

Kikouken

Nah, I'm even convinced Gohan (little boy) could beat him.

I second this statement.

[QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"]

What's your point? Superman is physically stronger and faster. Look it up on google,there's tons of other discussions with more proof then you should ever need.

Kikouken

Nah, I'm even convinced Gohan (little boy) could beat him.

Can he fly faster then the speed of light or easily throw entire mountains or move planets?

[QUOTE="Kikouken"][QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"]

What's your point? Superman is physically stronger and faster. Look it up on google,there's tons of other discussions with more proof then you should ever need.

Manly-manly-man

Nah, I'm even convinced Gohan (little boy) could beat him.

Can he fly faster then the speed of light or easily throw entire mountains or move planets?

Yeah, and his friend Trunks can do that too.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/863/supermansheatvision30nk.jpg

Heat vision too hot to measure, hotter then the sun.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9351/08302005032341pm7oo.jpg

Destorying a planet due to pure physical impact, not chi/ki/whatever. Also, as far as I know, this was under a red start, meaning Superman was weakened.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9199/supermanblackhole0015ak.jpg

Holding a black hole in his hands.

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8946/untitled166ov4wo.jpg

Speed of light flying.

[QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"][QUOTE="Kikouken"][QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"]

What's your point? Superman is physically stronger and faster. Look it up on google,there's tons of other discussions with more proof then you should ever need.

Kikouken

Nah, I'm even convinced Gohan (little boy) could beat him.

Can he fly faster then the speed of light or easily throw entire mountains or move planets?

Yeah, and his friend Trunks can do that too.

Like already stated, not once in the entire history of the DBZ manga or TV shows, do they move at the speed of light.

[QUOTE="Kikouken"][QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"][QUOTE="Kikouken"][QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"]

What's your point? Superman is physically stronger and faster. Look it up on google,there's tons of other discussions with more proof then you should ever need.

Manly-manly-man

Nah, I'm even convinced Gohan (little boy) could beat him.

Can he fly faster then the speed of light or easily throw entire mountains or move planets?

Yeah, and his friend Trunks can do that too.

Like already stated, not once in the entire history of the DBZ manga or TV shows, do they move at the speed of light.

Yah. They have instant transportation. ooooooh.

[QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"][QUOTE="Kikouken"][QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"][QUOTE="Kikouken"][QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"]

What's your point? Superman is physically stronger and faster. Look it up on google,there's tons of other discussions with more proof then you should ever need.

Kikouken

Nah, I'm even convinced Gohan (little boy) could beat him.

Can he fly faster then the speed of light or easily throw entire mountains or move planets?

Yeah, and his friend Trunks can do that too.

Like already stated, not once in the entire history of the DBZ manga or TV shows, do they move at the speed of light.

Yah. They have instant transportation. ooooooh.

That's not moving at the speed of light, that's just teleporting. And they can't do that consistently or in the middle of a battle (I've never seent hem do that).

That's not moving at the speed of light, that's just teleporting. And they can't do that consistently or in the middle of a battle (I've never seent hem do that).

Manly-manly-man

They teleport all the time in battle.

[QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"]

That's not moving at the speed of light, that's just teleporting. And they can't do that consistently or in the middle of a battle (I've never seent hem do that).

Kikouken

They teleport all the time in battle.

Either way, they don't do it constantly. Unless they were ALWAYS teleporting, constantly, which they don't, Superman would be faster.

[QUOTE="Kikouken"][QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"]

That's not moving at the speed of light, that's just teleporting. And they can't do that consistently or in the middle of a battle (I've never seent hem do that).

Manly-manly-man

They teleport all the time in battle.

Either way, they don't do it constantly. Unless they were ALWAYS teleporting, constantly, which they don't, Superman would be faster.

I still think SSJ4 Gogeta would eat Superman's cake.

[QUOTE="Kikouken"][QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"]

What's your point? Superman is physically stronger and faster. Look it up on google,there's tons of other discussions with more proof then you should ever need.

Jaks_Secret

Nah, I'm even convinced Gohan (little boy) could beat him.

I second this statement.

[QUOTE="Jaks_Secret"][QUOTE="Kikouken"][QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"]

What's your point? Superman is physically stronger and faster. Look it up on google,there's tons of other discussions with more proof then you should ever need.

clayron

Nah, I'm even convinced Gohan (little boy) could beat him.

I second this statement.

Pan could do whatever superman could do.

...blindfolded

[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="Jaks_Secret"][QUOTE="Kikouken"][QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"]

What's your point? Superman is physically stronger and faster. Look it up on google,there's tons of other discussions with more proof then you should ever need.

Kikouken

Nah, I'm even convinced Gohan (little boy) could beat him.

I second this statement.

Pan could do whatever superman could do.

...blindfolded

lol burned.

[QUOTE="Kikouken"][QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="Jaks_Secret"][QUOTE="Kikouken"][QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"]

What's your point? Superman is physically stronger and faster. Look it up on google,there's tons of other discussions with more proof then you should ever need.

MgamerBD

Nah, I'm even convinced Gohan (little boy) could beat him.

I second this statement.

Pan could do whatever superman could do.

...blindfolded

lol burned.

Lol. Ummmm.......how do you figure I was "burned"? He, nor you, provided any evidence for his claim.

You guys seem like the kind of school yard kids where one tells a bad joke, and the other laughs to try to seem cool but has no real clue what is going on in his own head.

Lol. Ummmm.......how do you figure I was "burned"? He provided, nor you, provided any evidence for his claim.

You guys seem like the kind of school yard kids where one tells a bad joke, and the other laughs to try to seem cool but has no real clue what is going on in his own head.

clayron

Says the man who's heatedly debating fictional characters' power over the internet.

Lol. Ummmm.......how do you figure I was "burned"? He provided, nor you, provided any evidence for his claim.

You guys seem like the kind of school yard kids where one tells a bad joke, and the other laughs to try to seem cool but has no real clue what is going on in his own head.

clayron

Its she, not he, mister ;)

Also, I'm obviously not taking it seriously....cause I don't really care for one and we all know Gogeta and Superman would never be animated for a fight scene =_='

Its she, not he, mister ;)

Kikouken

Yeah man she's a hot asian chick.

[QUOTE="Kikouken"]

Its she, not he, mister ;)

KrunkMastaX

Yeah man she's a hot asian chick.

lmao :lol:

lmao :lol:

Kikouken

Why you laugh at me? :P

[QUOTE="clayron"]

Lol. Ummmm.......how do you figure I was "burned"? He provided, nor you, provided any evidence for his claim.

You guys seem like the kind of school yard kids where one tells a bad joke, and the other laughs to try to seem cool but has no real clue what is going on in his own head.

Jaks_Secret

Says the man who's heatedly debating fictional characters' power over the internet.

Are you attempting to insinuate that I do not know what doing on in my own head?

[QUOTE="Kikouken"]

Its she, not he, mister ;)

KrunkMastaX

Yeah man she's a hot asian chick.

LMAO!!

[QUOTE="clayron"]

Lol. Ummmm.......how do you figure I was "burned"? He provided, nor you, provided any evidence for his claim.

You guys seem like the kind of school yard kids where one tells a bad joke, and the other laughs to try to seem cool but has no real clue what is going on in his own head.

Kikouken

Its she, not he, mister ;)

Also, I'm obviously not taking it seriously....cause I don't really care for one and we all know Gogeta and Superman would never be animated for a fight scene =_='

[QUOTE="KrunkMastaX"][QUOTE="Kikouken"]

Its she, not he, mister ;)

clayron

Yeah man she's a hot asian chick.

LMAO!!

I don't see what's so funny. Am I missing something? :?

[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="KrunkMastaX"][QUOTE="Kikouken"]

Its she, not he, mister ;)

Jaks_Secret

Yeah man she's a hot asian chick.

LMAO!!

I don't see what's so funny. Am I missing something? :?

Well you know, people find a lot of things funny on this forum.

[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="KrunkMastaX"][QUOTE="Kikouken"]

Its she, not he, mister ;)

Jaks_Secret

Yeah man she's a hot asian chick.

LMAO!!

I don't see what's so funny. Am I missing something? :?

When I read it I remembered the famly guy episode with Peter and Chris.

Peter:....and Hot Asian Chicks. They'll do what you want.

In short, Yes, you missed something.

Well you know, people find a lot of things funny on this forum.

Kikouken

Pfftt he aint seen your pic. If he did he wouldn't laugh at me saying you're hot. Tehe.

When I read it I remembered the famly guy episode with Peter and Chris.

Peter:....and Hot Asian Chicks. They'll do what you want.

In short, Yes, you missed something.

clayron

Lol glad someone got it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDm6VycCB8c&feature=related

watch superman supporters and above poster. watch his power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDm6VycCB8c&feature=related

watch superman supporters and above poster. watch his power.

RatchetV1

That wasn't...that imprressive. I'm sure there's better fight scenes you could've found.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDm6VycCB8c&feature=related

watch superman supporters and above poster. watch his power.

RatchetV1

Ugh, that dude will probably win because he'll talk Superman to death before he pulls a move...

[QUOTE="RatchetV1"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDm6VycCB8c&feature=related

watch superman supporters and above poster. watch his power.

Manly-manly-man

That wasn't...that imprressive. I'm sure there's better fight scenes you could've found.

there is. that was a warmup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al3472CTOvo

when / if the fusion ends before superman can be pwned, theres still hope for goku and vegeta to pull it off. heres a clip of the final battle with Omega Shenron.

To sum it up, Spirit Bomb PWNS all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhEd_J5CEnk&feature=related

Two words

OVER 9000!

I rest my case

Gogeta ftw

Long live this topic!

Technically Gogetta could instant transmission Superman to a planet without a yellow sun, isn't that what gives Superman his power?

wow, from august to may. I love this thread!! lol. keep the arguments cominn people!!

He doesn't even need kryptonite... SSJ4 Gogeta would disintegrate Superman.

Superman. Kyrptonite is his ONLY weakness and kyrptonite is hard to find... or so im told.