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Because life sucks ass...blazinpuertorocthats when you have to make life worth living. i had a very rough child hood and even rougher teen years. i left school to help put food on the table, been shot, had fights and arrested by the cops... all in my teen years. i wasn't spoiled and living on the edge kept me focused on what i wanted so i just bust my ass to get it. nothing is free or comes easy. don't worry about what your peers think ( what do they really know ) your parents, for the most part has good intentions when they apply pressure...don't take it so personal because parenting isn't easy. besides, you're not going to live under their roof forever so just ace your grade, do the little bs choirs until you're ready to move out into the world and have a beautiful life....itz out there if you really want it.
****in emos " oh my god!!! my mom keeps tellin me to take out the trash, doesnt she understand how stressful and crappy bein a teen is, lifes so hard " /wrist-DirtySanchez-your feeding the stereotype. "emo's" usually act theway they do for attention, maby this kid didn't intend to receive sympathy.
bottom line not everybody who hurts/kills themselves doesnt necessarily have the typical makeup and all black wearing thing going on. alot of people who kill themselves keep there emotions inside of them for years and dont show them until they get to the point and absolutely have to act upon their emotions
your feeding the stereotype. "emo's" usually act theway they do for attention, maby this kid didn't intend to receive sympathy.[QUOTE="-DirtySanchez-"]****in emos " oh my god!!! my mom keeps tellin me to take out the trash, doesnt she understand how stressful and crappy bein a teen is, lifes so hard " /wrist-xPANICx-
bottom line not everybody who hurts/kills themselves doesnt necessarily have the typical makeup and all black wearing thing going on. alot of people who kill themselves keep there emotions inside of them for years and dont show them until they get to the point and absolutely have to act upon their emotions
these ppl are just as bad, they may not complain out loud like the others, but in the end their reasons are the same pointless BS about how hard life is and blah blah blah, all the while livein with their nice wealthy parents or midclass but very loveing parents, they know jack about what a hard life isyour feeding the stereotype. "emo's" usually act theway they do for attention, maby this kid didn't intend to receive sympathy.[QUOTE="-DirtySanchez-"]****in emos " oh my god!!! my mom keeps tellin me to take out the trash, doesnt she understand how stressful and crappy bein a teen is, lifes so hard " /wrist-xPANICx-
bottom line not everybody who hurts/kills themselves doesnt necessarily have the typical makeup and all black wearing thing going on. alot of people who kill themselves keep there emotions inside of them for years and dont show them until they get to the point and absolutely have to act upon their emotions
Emo is so overused now. I went to a so called "emo" concert last night and almost no one there fit the description of an "emo". Everyone had a great time.As someone who for a while went through some deep depression years ago. At least for me just the school structure to me is depressing, and I got over it figured that #1 killing/hurting myself in any way doesn't solve anything and #2 school is only a small fraction of your life so I don't know I guess some people are just weak in mind. It's cold to say it but I think there just weak in mind.
And this doesn't apply to this story in the video but I remember back in middle school and before that allows being to young to go anywhere or do anything and that bugging me a lot.
Even if you were raped by your dad, then he kills your mom, your sister, and himself, I dont think that is a big enough of a problem to kill yourself.
Honestly the only reason to kill yourself is if you are dying and are in extreme pain.
Suicide is, in many cases, extremely selfish. I know people that have killed themselves, and when I saw the looks on their parents' and siblings' faces, I couldnt help but be pissed. They did it over stupid, stupid reasons and if they had simply taken ten seconds to breath, shake their head and clear their thoughts, they would still be here.
And as for chemical imbalances, thats bull. Ya, very few people do indeed have legitimate psychological issues, but the majority are simply weak-willed or compulsive. Weak willed in that they think their problem is so great they just give up. Compulsive in that they act before thinking.
mrbojangles25
Suicide is not selfish in the mindset of a suicidal. When a person is suicidal, they believe that they're doing people a favor, since his/her life is a hindrance or does not significantly alter the world and/or the community he/she lives in.
They can also be selfish in the fact that they *want* their friends and families to cry. If they're rejected so much, then a corpse, when they are all gathered, may give him more attention. Sure, since the person is dead, they won't receive it, but most don't think about that, and it's human nature to want acceptance, and fear rejection (remember the first time you ever asked a girl out, and you'll know what I mean(what if she says "no"))
Conclusively, I advise you to watch what you say in the forum. There is a chance a suicidal person is reading this forum, and your comment may encourage, rather than discourage, their mindset.
[QUOTE="Isbrealiompie"]Probably because today's mainstream media is very doom and gloom and there sellfish and think their problems are much bigger than they really are.thesmiterI doubt that being so depressed that they actually want to die is being selfish. I hate that view. Its a disease, a chemical imbalance. They need help, not to be told they are selfish. I don't think lying to them would help. They are being selfish. So many people have it so much worse than the most people who attempt/commit suicide, and by doing that it hurts the people around them. Sounds pretty selfish to me.
I don't think lying to them would help. They are being selfish. So many people have it so much worse than the most people who attempt/commit suicide, and by doing that it hurts the people around them. Sounds pretty selfish to me.LoeJanceThis mindset is a common myth. To really understand just how bad these people feel you must first experience depression. Not "oh dear my girlfriend left me, woe is me" depression that we all go through at some point in our lifes, but actual DSM-IV, cannot get out of bed, feel physically sick constantly depression. You have to understand that this isn't just a simple case of thinking negatively, they physically feel bad all the time.
[QUOTE="-xPANICx-"]your feeding the stereotype. "emo's" usually act theway they do for attention, maby this kid didn't intend to receive sympathy.[QUOTE="-DirtySanchez-"]****in emos " oh my god!!! my mom keeps tellin me to take out the trash, doesnt she understand how stressful and crappy bein a teen is, lifes so hard " /wrist-DirtySanchez-
bottom line not everybody who hurts/kills themselves doesnt necessarily have the typical makeup and all black wearing thing going on. alot of people who kill themselves keep there emotions inside of them for years and dont show them until they get to the point and absolutely have to act upon their emotions
these ppl are just as bad, they may not complain out loud like the others, but in the end their reasons are the same pointless BS about how hard life is and blah blah blah, all the while livein with their nice wealthy parents or midclass but very loveing parents, they know jack about what a hard life isyoure still stereotyping everybody into one group. not everyone who kills themselves has a great life. there only as bad to you because you're letting your ignorance of people's life's get in the way. For Examplea girl has outstanding grades in her school but she is constantly picked on in school, she cant go to her parents because her parents abuse her in drunken fits, but the girl never complains, after about 2 years of being beat and made fun of in school the girl decides to end her life because she doesn't feel loved.
would youher reason for feeling sad still be bs? and by your first impressions of her good grades makes it look like her life is on a good track?
not everybody lives their life as the first impression you receive from them. you don't seem to understand that.
is it that bad?
http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/good_day_ny/090219_teen_suicide_on_the_rise
Cause it's cool to be a statistic! :D[QUOTE="-DirtySanchez-"][QUOTE="-xPANICx-"]your feeding the stereotype. "emo's" usually act theway they do for attention, maby this kid didn't intend to receive sympathy.these ppl are just as bad, they may not complain out loud like the others, but in the end their reasons are the same pointless BS about how hard life is and blah blah blah, all the while livein with their nice wealthy parents or midclass but very loveing parents, they know jack about what a hard life isyoure still stereotyping everybody into one group. not everyone who kills themselves has a great life. there only as bad to you because you're letting your ignorance of people's life's get in the way. For Examplebottom line not everybody who hurts/kills themselves doesnt necessarily have the typical makeup and all black wearing thing going on. alot of people who kill themselves keep there emotions inside of them for years and dont show them until they get to the point and absolutely have to act upon their emotions
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a girl has outstanding grades in her school but she is constantly picked on in school, she cant go to her parents because her parents abuse her in drunken fits, but the girl never complains, after about 2 years of being beat and made fun of in school the girl decides to end her life because she doesn't feel loved.
would youher reason for feeling sad still be bs? and by your first impressions of her good grades makes it look like her life is on a good track?
not everybody lives their life as the first impression you receive from them. you don't seem to understand that.
Finally someone else who knows about suidical. thank you.. i had a friend who was suducial and i did tell someone and told her and she stop talking to me for a couple moths.... than she talk to me again. The good news is that she told me she going to change her life around with a new guy she saw and she doing much better.[QUOTE="Bauers-Twin"]cause teen life sucks ass so much stress.trentman7And life being an adult isn't? :lol: Yes it does. Slight difference though. Life as an adult is already old stuff for you. Life as a teenager is a transition. A teenager used to like pwer rangers, now they watch Rihanna and Beyonce in MTV. What people used to worry about the toys they have are now worried about the clothes they're wearing. While a kid doesn't care what he wears, teenagers are focused on the clothes and beyond. Oh, and sex is introduced, hormones jumping like crazy, to exacerbate the issue at hand.
Wednesday at my school, they showed a video on cyber bullying and they told a story of a boy who hanged himself because someone called him gay online...
Honestly, I laughed. Who kills themselves because someone called them gay(Question mark. Damn forum) There are plenty better reasons to kill yourself, and I'm against suicide of any kind!
[QUOTE="LoeJance"]I don't think lying to them would help. They are being selfish. So many people have it so much worse than the most people who attempt/commit suicide, and by doing that it hurts the people around them. Sounds pretty selfish to me.AirGuitarist87This mindset is a common myth. To really understand just how bad these people feel you must first experience depression. Not "oh dear my girlfriend left me, woe is me" depression that we all go through at some point in our lifes, but actual DSM-IV, cannot get out of bed, feel physically sick constantly depression. You have to understand that this isn't just a simple case of thinking negatively, they physically feel bad all the time. I agree. I hate it when people say that its selfish. As someone who has gone through a deep depression and has had suicidal thoughts, I know the pain they go through. And to be honest, a lot of suicidal people go on simply for their families. . . like me. I had suicidal thoughts but I never actually attempted it because I knew how much pain it would cost those around me. So instead I suffered alone in silence. . . that sounds like quite the opposite of selfishness to me. And those that do go through with it, its just because they feel the pain is too much for them to bear. You have to understand that when in those conditions, you cannot think rationally as a normal person would. Conversely, I think it could also be selfish of the family to want the suicidal person to live, because essentially, you are asking a person to continue to live in complete and utter misery just to spare you the pain of losing a loved one. . . Just a thought. Anyway, I'm not trying to justify suicide, but I think you have to understand that these people are not selfish, they are just in a lot of pain.
People, especially in their teenage year, want acceptance. Gay is not going to land someone in a popularity contest, and if that was a big issue for people, then that's ground for suicide. Does that answer your question?Benjamin-T
If you're not popular, kill yourself? Try harder.
Life isn't looking to good for anybody. Stress. Teen life is stressfull but Life is unfair. You have to get used to it.Algor44Agreed to an extent. Don't get used to it, blossom from it
[QUOTE="Benjamin-T"]People, especially in their teenage year, want acceptance. Gay is not going to land someone in a popularity contest, and if that was a big issue for people, then that's ground for suicide. Does that answer your question?phillo99
If you're not popular, kill yourself? Try harder.
No need. Popularity is a big thing around teenagers who are self conscious about it. Whether you choose to believe me or not is up to you[QUOTE="trentman7"][QUOTE="Bauers-Twin"]cause teen life sucks ass so much stress.Benjamin-TAnd life being an adult isn't? :lol: Yes it does. Slight difference though. Life as an adult is already old stuff for you. Life as a teenager is a transition. A teenager used to like pwer rangers, now they watch Rihanna and Beyonce in MTV. What people used to worry about the toys they have are now worried about the clothes they're wearing. While a kid doesn't care what he wears, teenagers are focused on the clothes and beyond. Oh, and sex is introduced, hormones jumping like crazy, to exacerbate the issue at hand.You would think though that a teenager could stop, take a deep breath and think "Do I really have it that bad?". Instead of thinking about ending their life, take a second to notice how stressful other people's lives are.
[QUOTE="phillo99"][QUOTE="Benjamin-T"]People, especially in their teenage year, want acceptance. Gay is not going to land someone in a popularity contest, and if that was a big issue for people, then that's ground for suicide. Does that answer your question?Benjamin-T
If you're not popular, kill yourself? Try harder.
No need. Popularity is a big thing around teenagers who are self conscious about it. Whether you choose to believe me or not is up to youHe was 13. If popularity is that important to you at that age, maybe it was meant to be. For gods sake, he didn't even look like he went through puberty yet.
Crazy kids and their shenanigans...
[QUOTE="Benjamin-T"][QUOTE="trentman7"]And life being an adult isn't? :lol:trentman7Yes it does. Slight difference though. Life as an adult is already old stuff for you. Life as a teenager is a transition. A teenager used to like pwer rangers, now they watch Rihanna and Beyonce in MTV. What people used to worry about the toys they have are now worried about the clothes they're wearing. While a kid doesn't care what he wears, teenagers are focused on the clothes and beyond. Oh, and sex is introduced, hormones jumping like crazy, to exacerbate the issue at hand.You would think though that a teenager could stop, take a deep breath and think "Do I really have it that bad?". Instead of thinking about ending their life, take a second to notice how stressful other people's lives are. To answer that question, if something is bad for a person, then it is bad, regardless of how extreme it is.
[QUOTE="Benjamin-T"][QUOTE="phillo99"]No need. Popularity is a big thing around teenagers who are self conscious about it. Whether you choose to believe me or not is up to youIf you're not popular, kill yourself? Try harder.
phillo99
He was 13. If popularity is that important to you at that age, maybe it was meant to be. For gods sake, he didn't even look like he went through puberty yet.
Crazy kids and their shenanigans...
Oh, he was a guy. Unusual, but some people develop puberty faster than others, I suppose. I had a cousin who started growing pubic hair (he showed it to everyone how he was becoming a man...nasty image). I also heard some people who didn't develop it till they were 16mannn, i hope you guys are kidding with that suicide is fashion stuff, what a waste. out of all the sperm he/she champion overed...they throw their reward of life away on a dime. wow, so sad.
at this age life is hardly serious, no need for worrying just establish clear communication with the ones stressing you.
ppl have to believe in their dreams, everyone haves talents, but if you have to side track your passions a bit itz normal...just work on your craft on the side while tending to your #1 priority... survival. gotta eat, right? crawl b4 u walk. i know itz ruff cuz you got pressure from others...ish pressure burst pipes, i know, we all go thru this transition, we are competitive by nature and luv ones just want the best for you rather from you... if u think about it. but, it is sad when a person doesn't have a fam or friends but itz not like they are old and gray. stress also brings out the best in us. time heals everything, just be patient and plan your life responsibly. . stress is nothing but a test of your will, you just create the environment. don't like...u got the power to change it, just prepare yourself. most of the time i find approaching situations with a positive attitude things tend to work themselves out in a pleasant way. but, maybe thats just me. lawd knows i've seen some sic **** in my time, already.
well, i know i'm gonna enjoy this thing called life while i'm still here...blessed and i know death is inevitable.... unless someone gets the cryo and stasis science down pac
live ur life, it gets better if you allow it to be. ppl can only stop you if you allow them to.
[QUOTE="trentman7"][QUOTE="Bauers-Twin"]cause teen life sucks ass so much stress.Benjamin-TAnd life being an adult isn't? :lol: Yes it does. Slight difference though. Life as an adult is already old stuff for you. Life as a teenager is a transition. A teenager used to like pwer rangers, now they watch Rihanna and Beyonce in MTV. What people used to worry about the toys they have are now worried about the clothes they're wearing. While a kid doesn't care what he wears, teenagers are focused on the clothes and beyond. Oh, and sex is introduced, hormones jumping like crazy, to exacerbate the issue at hand. ummm i never watch mtv stop stereotyping. And i feel like school and parents and realationships are stressful, SATS, driving tests, etc. Once you are an adult you are more free to do things you want. Get a job you like. Things like that. Both are stressful but its not just a coincidence teenage suicides are up this stuff is true teen life is frustrating as hell sometimes. You have to leave all your friends behind when you go to college or wherever it is very dpressing and stressful to think about.
[QUOTE="Benjamin-T"][QUOTE="trentman7"]And life being an adult isn't? :lol:Bauers-TwinYes it does. Slight difference though. Life as an adult is already old stuff for you. Life as a teenager is a transition. A teenager used to like pwer rangers, now they watch Rihanna and Beyonce in MTV. What people used to worry about the toys they have are now worried about the clothes they're wearing. While a kid doesn't care what he wears, teenagers are focused on the clothes and beyond. Oh, and sex is introduced, hormones jumping like crazy, to exacerbate the issue at hand. ummm i never watch mtv stop stereotyping. And i feel like school and parents and realationships are stressful, SATS, driving tests, etc. Once you are an adult you are more free to do things you want. Get a job you like. Things like that. Both are stressful but its not just a coincidence teenage suicides are up this stuff is true teen life is frustrating as hell sometimes. You have to leave all your friends behind when you go to college or wherever it is very dpressing and stressful to think about. I'm not stereotyping. I have to compare the transition between teen and kid, and I have to generalize at times to prove my case. Dunno why you're bashing me, since you agree with me. I also never watched MTV, since I'm more into rock
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