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The rise in teen suicides is in direct proportion with Fall Out Boy's record sales.VandalvideoNah, I think it has to do with the faster pace of the world which is ever increasing with each passing day. I mean everything is more complicated...cellphones, computers, more competitive schooling, always having to worry about appearance, money, ect...
Ok, I don't really know where to start with this. When you compaire problems just because it may not big a big problem to you doesn't mean it's not for someone else. Some people are more perdisposed to feeling bad when being bullied whether it's the chemical resceptors in they'er brain or the way they were raised. Yeah some people can just brush it off but others can't.
I personally have problems with depression and lots of them. I have been hospitalized for mental reasons 15 times since I was 14 years old. I have cut (i'm back to it but that's beside the point) and I have made a serious suicide attempt at least twice. Like someone said when your activly suicidial your not going to think about the loss your loved ones are going to suffer. Your going to think "That's one less bill to pay for me parents, one less mouth to feed" and if your having other problems like you were abused/being abused "No one will be able to hurt me again/anymore" and things along those lines.
And most people that are suicidal don't tell others if they are really planning a suicide up until about three days ago I had been planning my own for a month. What changed my mind? The fact that I do have a better out then what I oringally thought.That and I'm going to kill myself one day anyway so why not hold off a bit longer and enjoy the crap that I go through at home for just a little while more? but yeah You may not think my problems are that serious because I have never been homeless I have a loving parent left and I have plenty to eat when I want to eat it.
But the emotional pain I face every single day is sometimes unbareable.I don't know why I feel the way I do. Do I know in the big scheme of things that my problems don't matter? Yes I do realize this but does that make them any less painful for me? No it doesn't. I mean I am lucky to have all of the things I do have but the two things that really matter are things I don't have. 1 my sanity and 2 love for myself. Now why I don't have love for myself I'm not going to get into and as for my sanity I have a chemical imblance that makes it so I don't think the way normal people do. And it sucks.
It sucks for you to say something and people to look at you like your some kind of lepor. It really does. If you got treated like that everyday of your life by atleast one person and didn't understand or couldn't help why they did it wouldn't you want to end your life? Yes, suicide is selfish. Yes, it's a horrible thing to do to your family but when you get to that poin in all honesty you don't care. You really don't.
[QUOTE="Benjamin-T"][QUOTE="Bauers-Twin"] ummm i never watch mtv stop stereotyping. And i feel like school and parents and realationships are stressful, SATS, driving tests, etc. Once you are an adult you are more free to do things you want. Get a job you like. Things like that. Both are stressful but its not just a coincidence teenage suicides are up this stuff is true teen life is frustrating as hell sometimes. You have to leave all your friends behind when you go to college or wherever it is very dpressing and stressful to think about.Bauers-TwinI'm not stereotyping. I have to compare the transition between teen and kid, and I have to generalize at times to prove my case. Dunno why you're bashing me, since you agree with me. I also never watched MTV, since I'm more into rock I agree with everything you said besides MTV thing which was out of nowhere. I hate MTV too but I'm sure theres been teen suicides among non-MTV watchers as well. I just dont see what MTV had to do with your statement at all. It has to do with the transition from Power Rangers to MTV, not focusing on the thing itself
Ok, I don't really know where to start with this. When you compaire problems just because it may not big a big problem to you doesn't mean it's not for someone else. Some people are more perdisposed to feeling bad when being bullied whether it's the chemical resceptors in they'er brain or the way they were raised. Yeah some people can just brush it off but others can't. I personally have problems with depression and lots of them. I have been hospitalized for mental reasons 15 times since I was 14 years old. I have cut (i'm back to it but that's beside the point) and I have made a serious suicide attempt at least twice. Like someone said when your activly suicidial your not going to think about the loss your loved ones are going to suffer. Your going to think "That's one less bill to pay for me parents, one less mouth to feed" and if your having other problems like you were abused/being abused "No one will be able to hurt me again/anymore" and things along those lines. And most people that are suicidal don't tell others if they are really planning a suicide up until about three days ago I had been planning my own for a month. What changed my mind? The fact that I do have a better out then what I oringally thought.That and I'm going to kill myself one day anyway so why not hold off a bit longer and enjoy the crap that I go through at home for just a little while more? but yeah You may not think my problems are that serious because I have never been homeless I have a loving parent left and I have plenty to eat when I want to eat it. But the emotional pain I face every single day is sometimes unbareable.I don't know why I feel the way I do. Do I know in the big scheme of things that my problems don't matter? Yes I do realize this but does that make them any less painful for me? No it doesn't. I mean I am lucky to have all of the things I do have but the two things that really matter are things I don't have. 1 my sanity and 2 love for myself. Now why I don't have love for myself I'm not going to get into and as for my sanity I have a chemical imblance that makes it so I don't think the way normal people do. And it sucks. It sucks for you to say something and people to look at you like your some kind of lepor. It really does. If you got treated like that everyday of your life by atleast one person and didn't understand or couldn't help why they did it wouldn't you want to end your life? Yes, suicide is selfish. Yes, it's a horrible thing to do to your family but when you get to that poin in all honesty you don't care. You really don't.WTFAlice123Please separate your paragraphs. I am rather discouraged to read everything you bundled up (although I did read everything, and congratulations on surviving not once but twice)
obviously there are alot more unhappy people who either cant or dont want to deal with whatever is going on or wait it out so they take the quick and easy way
But what he is saying is that some people really do have big problems.[QUOTE="JC346"][QUOTE="Isbrealiompie"] Look I've been extremely depressed in the past and when I look back on it now I think to myself that my reasons were indeed very small. mrbojangles25
Even if you were raped by your dad, then he kills your mom, your sister, and himself, I dont think that is a big enough of a problem to kill yourself.
Honestly the only reason to kill yourself is if you are dying and are in extreme pain.
Suicide is, in many cases, extremely selfish. I know people that have killed themselves, and when I saw the looks on their parents' and siblings' faces, I couldnt help but be pissed. They did it over stupid, stupid reasons and if they had simply taken ten seconds to breath, shake their head and clear their thoughts, they would still be here.
And as for chemical imbalances, thats bull. Ya, very few people do indeed have legitimate psychological issues, but the majority are simply weak-willed or compulsive. Weak willed in that they think their problem is so great they just give up. Compulsive in that they act before thinking.
Being suicidal doesn't mean your selfish. It's usually a mental condition or someone that can't handle the pressure.
my cousin died from sucide because he was being abused by the neighbors in ways unfit for this board, and no one believed him.
Now, they realize the truth. Teens have a lot more pressure than they did a few years ago. My neighbor is forced to work, just to make sure he can pay for his family to eat, because his mom is in the hospital, and the dad abandoned them.
So before you start saying that suicide is a selfish thing, look from their perspective first.
It's the fashion, it's what the cool kids do.Evil_Saluki
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]Even if you were raped by your dad, then he kills your mom, your sister, and himself, I dont think that is a big enough of a problem to kill yourself.
Honestly the only reason to kill yourself is if you are dying and are in extreme pain.
Suicide is, in many cases, extremely selfish. I know people that have killed themselves, and when I saw the looks on their parents' and siblings' faces, I couldnt help but be pissed. They did it over stupid, stupid reasons and if they had simply taken ten seconds to breath, shake their head and clear their thoughts, they would still be here.
And as for chemical imbalances, thats bull. Ya, very few people do indeed have legitimate psychological issues, but the majority are simply weak-willed or compulsive. Weak willed in that they think their problem is so great they just give up. Compulsive in that they act before thinking.
Benjamin-T
Suicide is not selfish in the mindset of a suicidal. When a person is suicidal, they believe that they're doing people a favor, since his/her life is a hindrance or does not significantly alter the world and/or the community he/she lives in.
They can also be selfish in the fact that they *want* their friends and families to cry. If they're rejected so much, then a corpse, when they are all gathered, may give him more attention. Sure, since the person is dead, they won't receive it, but most don't think about that, and it's human nature to want acceptance, and fear rejection (remember the first time you ever asked a girl out, and you'll know what I mean(what if she says "no"))
Conclusively, I advise you to watch what you say in the forum. There is a chance a suicidal person is reading this forum, and your comment may encourage, rather than discourage, their mindset.
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]Even if you were raped by your dad, then he kills your mom, your sister, and himself, I dont think that is a big enough of a problem to kill yourself.
Honestly the only reason to kill yourself is if you are dying and are in extreme pain.
Suicide is, in many cases, extremely selfish. I know people that have killed themselves, and when I saw the looks on their parents' and siblings' faces, I couldnt help but be pissed. They did it over stupid, stupid reasons and if they had simply taken ten seconds to breath, shake their head and clear their thoughts, they would still be here.
And as for chemical imbalances, thats bull. Ya, very few people do indeed have legitimate psychological issues, but the majority are simply weak-willed or compulsive. Weak willed in that they think their problem is so great they just give up. Compulsive in that they act before thinking.
Benjamin-T
Suicide is not selfish in the mindset of a suicidal. When a person is suicidal, they believe that they're doing people a favor, since his/her life is a hindrance or does not significantly alter the world and/or the community he/she lives in.
They can also be selfish in the fact that they *want* their friends and families to cry. If they're rejected so much, then a corpse, when they are all gathered, may give him more attention. Sure, since the person is dead, they won't receive it, but most don't think about that, and it's human nature to want acceptance, and fear rejection (remember the first time you ever asked a girl out, and you'll know what I mean(what if she says "no"))
Conclusively, I advise you to watch what you say in the forum. There is a chance a suicidal person is reading this forum, and your comment may encourage, rather than discourage, their mindset.
First, let me apologize for my tone. I did not mean to come off so cold-hearted. I can sympathize, if not empathize, with people pondering suicide and even those that follow through with such a tragic, stupid decision.
But therein lies the difference: we all consider it, but the majority of us fight, hang on, and come to other alternatives. I had a trough childhood, ok? Suicide entered my thoughts frequently. I was believed to be mentally challenged until I was 12; I was bullied by everyone for being fat; my mom didnt understand me and it was a source of emotional and even physical conflict; etc, etc. I even went so far as to start to cut my wrist once, but reconsidered in enough time so I didnt hit an artery.
With that said, rarely are selfish people aware of their own selfishness. Why? Because if a suicidal person actually took a second to think about other people, and not themselves, they just might see that their death would have a devastating impact on those around them.
And like I admitted earlier, yes, I am sure a solid percentage have undiagnosed or diagnosed mental conditions, but for those without them its still a stupid, selfish decision.
PS I am not passing judgement on those that kill th emselves: I am not going to sit here and tell you theyre in hell, nor are they bad people. I am merely commenting on the act of suicide.
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