The Beatles: Do You Like Them?

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]You don't see what the wealth the Beatles generated for Britain as an advantage?

Ok, logical question then; why is the media force feeding the Beatles? Why is the media attempting to portray them as so influencial? Is the media falsifying the fact they are the best selling artist of all time? Is the media falsifying the fact that Yesterday is the most covered song of all time? Or, Occam's Razor, is it just that they were a popular and successful band?LJS9502_basic

The media force feeds The Beatles starting with they "hysteria" of their coming over. You have to look at the political landscape. You also have to understand that what initially sold the band was the boy band statues. They were "cute" and the girls went crazy. Now...take that away and what do you have in the early 60's? An okay pop band. The early songs were quite catchy but I don't think even the most ardent Beatles fan would say they were great. Most Beatles fans liked what came later more.

And when we talk of what came later we are seeing influences on The Beatles. But with all mainstream music.....the mainstream is what gets the radio play. It's what people gauge music on. And I think if one were honest......and the British Invasion hadn't come at the right time and place and the band had the look...which was culled for them....The Beatles would have been just another band.

Now I'm not saying they were a terrible band. I'm not saying they wouldn't have fans. I'm saying they wouldn't have the hype.

[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]They started to grow on me after playing Rock BandLJS9502_basic

Yeah, they're alright. Some songs are pretty good.

[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]They started to grow on me after playing Rock BandLJS9502_basic

Yes I like the Beatles but I don't listen to them that often.

Wait, there are people who don't like The Beatles?

Eh, don't know exactly.

My main problem with them though, is that they wrote SO many songs, which resulted in so many of them being kinda' bad. I feel like so many of their songs are unfinished, and I wish they had put more care and attention to each individual song, so that their bad song:good song ratio would be significantly lower, even if their overall library would decrease in the process.

Wait, there are people who don't like The Beatles?

metroidfood

Wait, there are people who don't like The Beatles?

metroidfood

[QUOTE="metroidfood"]

Wait, there are people who don't like The Beatles?

C-Lee

[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]They started to grow on me after playing Rock BandLJS9502_basic

I think a lot of DragonForce fans listen to them because of Guitar Hero...

[QUOTE="C-Lee"][QUOTE="metroidfood"]

Wait, there are people who don't like The Beatles?

Darth-Caedus

We also tend to be the most vocal in our criticisms.

Darth, your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]They started to grow on me after playing Rock Bandchessmaster1989

I think a lot of DragonForce fans listen to them because of Guitar Hero...

And because they think speed = skills.

THE BEATLES ARE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) They are my favorite band!

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] One thing I don't like about Guitar Hero and Rock Band. I know a dude that thought Dragonforce was good after playing GH.CJL13

I think a lot of DragonForce fans listen to them because of Guitar Hero...

And because they think speed = skills.

I like the Beatles quite a bit. I own a few of the remasters, and they are very good.

Not my favorite bands, but I'd consider them one of the most influential bands in history.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] One thing I don't like about Guitar Hero and Rock Band. I know a dude that thought Dragonforce was good after playing GH.CJL13

I think a lot of DragonForce fans listen to them because of Guitar Hero...

And because they think speed = skills.

Well, I know I'm going to get a lot of **** for this, but I do think that DF's guitarists have talent. They play some pretty good riffs/solos. The problem with DF isn't their guitar work... it's that their guitars are too often drowned out but overly aggressive drumming (most of their songs it seems like their drummer just pounds on the drums as hard as possible) and vocals that are beyond cheesy (even for power metal). Their keyboards are... unnecessary as well.

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="C-Lee"] Most of GS doesn't like them because they all are metal fanschessmaster1989

We also tend to be the most vocal in our criticisms.

Darth, your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!

Damn it...I have no criticisms of you mother...she's just too good

Perfect example of media-hype programming public opinion. The annoying baby-boomer generation keeps hammering the message down everyone's throats that the Beatles are somehow timeless and awesome. Enough sheeple buy into the message to perpetuate the meme. They may have been special in their day, but they're no longer interesting or relevant. They should be relegated to the dustbin of history like the popular big band groups of the 40s and the jazz musicians of the 20s and 30s. Their time has passed.

bogaty

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"] Metalheads make up a pretty small percentage of the GS users actually, most people seem to be more into alt-rock...we just happen to be the most vocal of the music listeners.:P Darth-Caedus

We also tend to be the most vocal in our criticisms.

Darth, your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!

Damn it...I have no criticisms of you mother...she's just too good

Touche :lol:

[QUOTE="CJL13"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

I think a lot of DragonForce fans listen to them because of Guitar Hero...

chessmaster1989

And because they think speed = skills.

Well, I know I'm going to get a lot of **** for this, but I do think that DF's guitarists have talent. They play some pretty good riffs/solos. The problem with DF isn't their guitar work... it's that their guitars are too often drowned out but overly aggressive drumming (most of their songs it seems like their drummer just pounds on the drums as hard as possible) and vocals that are beyond cheesy (even for power metal). Their keyboards are... unnecessary as well.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="CJL13"]

And because they think speed = skills.

Darth-Caedus

Well, I know I'm going to get a lot of **** for this, but I do think that DF's guitarists have talent. They play some pretty good riffs/solos. The problem with DF isn't their guitar work... it's that their guitars are too often drowned out but overly aggressive drumming (most of their songs it seems like their drummer just pounds on the drums as hard as possible) and vocals that are beyond cheesy (even for power metal). Their keyboards are... unnecessary as well.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="CJL13"]

And because they think speed = skills.

Darth-Caedus

Well, I know I'm going to get a lot of **** for this, but I do think that DF's guitarists have talent. They play some pretty good riffs/solos. The problem with DF isn't their guitar work... it's that their guitars are too often drowned out but overly aggressive drumming (most of their songs it seems like their drummer just pounds on the drums as hard as possible) and vocals that are beyond cheesy (even for power metal). Their keyboards are... unnecessary as well.

True. I always wonder how many times it takes them to get a song recorded correctly...

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Well, I know I'm going to get a lot of **** for this, but I do think that DF's guitarists have talent. They play some pretty good riffs/solos. The problem with DF isn't their guitar work... it's that their guitars are too often drowned out but overly aggressive drumming (most of their songs it seems like their drummer just pounds on the drums as hard as possible) and vocals that are beyond cheesy (even for power metal). Their keyboards are... unnecessary as well.

Lto_thaG

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]Minor correction, DF's guitarists have talent...when in the studio. Darth-Caedus

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]They started to grow on me after playing Rock Bandchessmaster1989

I think a lot of DragonForce fans listen to them because of Guitar Hero...

If I hadn't listened to any form of music in my life until now, maybe I would like the Beatles. But that's not the case, so no, I don't like the Beatles.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] One thing I don't like about Guitar Hero and Rock Band. I know a dude that thought Dragonforce was good after playing GH.Nerd_Man

I think a lot of DragonForce fans listen to them because of Guitar Hero...

Hmm... the song in GH was Through the Fire and Flames, right?

[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

I think a lot of DragonForce fans listen to them because of Guitar Hero...

chessmaster1989

Hmm... the song in GH was Through the Fire and Flames, right?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]They started to grow on me after playing Rock BandLto_thaG

[QUOTE="Nerd_Man"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

I think a lot of DragonForce fans listen to them because of Guitar Hero...

chessmaster1989

Hmm... the song in GH was Through the Fire and Flames, right?

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] One thing I don't like about Guitar Hero and Rock Band. I know a dude that thought Dragonforce was good after playing GH.Oblivionfan10

No, never did.

It's impossible not toorockon1215

[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"][QUOTE="Lto_thaG"] I knew DF before GH though.I like them.Lto_thaG

Well, it's one of their popular songs, but they have better songs definitely... I actually don't think Valley of the Damned is such a bad album, but Inhuman Rampage is one of the best examples of power metal going wrong.

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"] How do you guys think I feel. My brother played the Dream Theater songs on Rock Band... he now considers those songs their best... which they aren't. And Rock Band is how I became a DT fanchessmaster1989

Well, it's one of their popular songs, but they have better songs definitely... I actually don't think Valley of the Damned is such a bad album, but Inhuman Rampage is one of the best examples of power metal going wrong.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"] Yea,Through the Fire and Flames isn't my favorite song by Dragonforce either.Lto_thaG

Well, it's one of their popular songs, but they have better songs definitely... I actually don't think Valley of the Damned is such a bad album, but Inhuman Rampage is one of the best examples of power metal going wrong.

Pretty much all power metal is cheesy, but DF take it to new level.:P Darth-Caedus

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Well, it's one of their popular songs, but they have better songs definitely... I actually don't think Valley of the Damned is such a bad album, but Inhuman Rampage is one of the best examples of power metal going wrong.

Darth-Caedus

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"] Yea,Through the Fire and Flames isn't my favorite song by Dragonforce either.Lto_thaG

Well, it's one of their popular songs, but they have better songs definitely... I actually don't think Valley of the Damned is such a bad album, but Inhuman Rampage is one of the best examples of power metal going wrong.

I have no problem with a lot of power metal, even though a good deal of it is cheesy. It's one of my favorite subgenres.

Here, if you like DF, check this out. Fantastic song, great guitar work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uvO9EYrbVY

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Well, it's one of their popular songs, but they have better songs definitely... I actually don't think Valley of the Damned is such a bad album, but Inhuman Rampage is one of the best examples of power metal going wrong.

Darth-Caedus

Who cares if it's cheesy. Doesn't change the fact that bands like Falconer and Blind Guardian are absolutely amazing. :P

The Beatles are asome.