The grave misconception of atheists regarding religion and God!!

That if somebody does not believe in God then they are going to hell regardless of the life they lived and regardless of the fact that how much they sincerely tried to know the truth. It's "all about your intentions" and God knows them very well and that is what you will ultimately be judged on..

Dont believe the christians or muslims who tell you that you have to believe in God to go to paradise. I have read the entire Quran and didnt come up with this "rule" anywhere..

if the bible is infallible, shouldn't this statement be true? people pick and choose out of the bible. doesn't the bible indeed say that you need to accept him to get into heaven? this is why this whole thing is ridiculous.

That if somebody does not believe in God then they are going to hell regardless of the life they lived and regardless of the fact that how much they sincerely tried to know the truth. It's "all about your intentions" and God knows them very well and that is what you will ultimately be judged on..

Dont believe the christians or muslims who tell you that you have to believe in God to go to paradise. I have read the entire Quran and didnt come up with this "rule" anywhere..

Stranger_4

Actually, back when I was Christian, my church taught that anyone who was not Christian is going to Hell. Period. End of story. Do not pas go; do not collect $100. Therefore, it's not a misconception when it is the doctrine (at least of some).muthsera666

I agree with you. I know the bible says that through Jesus is the only way to God, but I can't imagine God being so cruel and uncaring to the millions of good-hearted people who were born into different religions. I mean, I wouldn't even condemn them to an eternity of pain and suffering because I have to much compassion for them. I can't believe that I have more compassion than God, so I can only conclude that God too would not send them to hell.Tauruslink

[QUOTE="muthsera666"]Actually, back when I was Christian, my church taught that anyone who was not Christian is going to Hell. Period. End of story. Do not pas go; do not collect $100. Therefore, it's not a misconception when it is the doctrine (at least of some).foxhound_fox

Say what?muthsera666

[QUOTE="muthsera666"]Say what?foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="Tauruslink"]I agree with you. I know the bible says that through Jesus is the only way to God, but I can't imagine God being so cruel and uncaring to the millions of good-hearted people who were born into different religions. I mean, I wouldn't even condemn them to an eternity of pain and suffering because I have to much compassion for them. I can't believe that I have more compassion than God, so I can only conclude that God too would not send them to hell.muthsera666

[QUOTE="Tauruslink"]I agree with you. I know the bible says that through Jesus is the only way to God, but I can't imagine God being so cruel and uncaring to the millions of good-hearted people who were born into different religions. I mean, I wouldn't even condemn them to an eternity of pain and suffering because I have to much compassion for them. I can't believe that I have more compassion than God, so I can only conclude that God too would not send them to hell.muthsera666

Everybody's gonna die so what's the big deal if millions die at once??Stranger_4

Well luckily I believe in evolution :D

[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="Tauruslink"]I agree with you. I know the bible says that through Jesus is the only way to God, but I can't imagine God being so cruel and uncaring to the millions of good-hearted people who were born into different religions. I mean, I wouldn't even condemn them to an eternity of pain and suffering because I have to much compassion for them. I can't believe that I have more compassion than God, so I can only conclude that God too would not send them to hell.Tauruslink

[QUOTE="Stranger_4"]Everybody's gonna die so what's the big deal if millions die at once??foxhound_fox

A heart attack is quite damn painful as well, a physically brutal death does not necessarily make it the most painful one..

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Stranger_4"]Everybody's gonna die so what's the big deal if millions die at once??Stranger_4

A heart attack is quite damn painful as well, a physically brutal death does not necessarily make it the most painful one..

[QUOTE="Stranger_4"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
Torturous deaths at the hands of a madman isn't a just way to die.muthsera666

A heart attack is quite damn painful as well, a physically brutal death does not necessarily make it the most painful one..

Cancer is more painful than getting buthered alive...it's not even a contest as cancer will gradually kill you with months of misery.

You will get your justice at the day of judgement.

A heart attack is quite damn painful as well, a physically brutal death does not necessarily make it the most painful one..

Stranger_4

No it isnt.

Cancer is more painful than getting buthered alive...it's not even a contest as cancer will gradually kill you with months of misery.

Stranger_4

[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="Stranger_4"]You will get your justice at the day of judgement.

A heart attack is quite damn painful as well, a physically brutal death does not necessarily make it the most painful one..

Stranger_4

Cancer is more painful than getting buthered alive...it's not even a contest as cancer will gradually kill you with months of misery.

If atheist don't believe in God then why should they care about heaven? They don't believe in that either I would assume. Ragnarok1051

It kind of eliminates the relevance of Pascal's Wager, however.

I'm assuming that it reassures atheists that even if their wrong and the Judeo-Christian God exists, if an atheist still lives a good life, one would still go to heaven. It kind of eliminates the relevance of Pascal's labor, however.muthsera666

[QUOTE="muthsera666"]I'm assuming that it reassures atheists that even if their wrong and the Judeo-Christian God exists, if an atheist still lives a good life, one would still go to heaven. It kind of eliminates the relevance of Pascal's labor, however.foxhound_fox

It's fine that you believe in a god, I wish that I could be that naive

But is it really necessary to force your beliefs on others?

[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="Stranger_4"]No it isnt.

Cancer is more painful than getting buthered alive...it's not even a contest as cancer will gradually kill you with months of misery.

Stranger_4

[QUOTE="muthsera666"]I'm assuming that it reassures atheists that even if their wrong and the Judeo-Christian God exists, if an atheist still lives a good life, one would still go to heaven. It kind of eliminates the relevance of Pascal's labor, however.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="Stranger_4"]

No it isnt.

Cancer is more painful than getting buthered alive...it's not even a contest as cancer will gradually kill you with months of misery.

BumFluff122

soooooo..... back on topic. why should an athiest be scared of hell when they don't believe in it? Is that too simple? Have I completely missed TC's point?jasperrussell

[QUOTE="jasperrussell"]soooooo..... back on topic. why should an athiest be scared of hell when they don't believe in it? Is that too simple? Have I completely missed TC's point?JabbaDaHutt30

Those kinds of comments shouldn't bother an atheist to begin with. I love it when I am condemned like that. It's so adorable that I'm in their prayers. dracula_16

[QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"][QUOTE="jasperrussell"]soooooo..... back on topic. why should an athiest be scared of hell when they don't believe in it? Is that too simple? Have I completely missed TC's point?jasperrussell

[QUOTE="jasperrussell"][QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"] Because they are in doubt?JabbaDaHutt30

[QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"][QUOTE="jasperrussell"] wouldn't that make them agnostic rather than athiest?jasperrussell

Even though the Pope himself once said that you had to believe in the christian God in order to get into heaven which caused a huge outcry from the public so he retracted his statement?BumFluff122

[QUOTE="jasperrussell"][QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"] Even religious folk are in doubt sometimes... so not necessarily. But agnosticism isn't a middleground between atheism and theism anyway. Agnostics are atheists.JabbaDaHutt30

[QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"][QUOTE="jasperrussell"] The one true god - wikipedia - thinks differently: "It is often put forth as a middle ground between theism and atheism."muthsera666

If you are undecided about whether something is true or not, then that obviously means you don't believe it's TRUE (yet).

[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="JabbaDaHutt30"] It is put forth - but it is done so incorrectly. You can either believe or not believe in something. Agnosticism is a state of knowledge; there is no middle ground between believing or not believing.JabbaDaHutt30

If you are undecided about whether something is true or not, then that obviously means you don't believe it's TRUE (yet).