The Haiti Telethon.

Not to take anything away from good deeds here but does anyone else find it a little disturbing and sad that Americans are so much more willing to help other countries out than their fellow Americans? There wasn't this kind of charity during 9/11. :?

I am so sick of the media craze around haiti. For the last week, everytime I open the news channel there someone talking about Haiti. Nothing else is happening in the world worthy of our attention? I had to go on wiki to see who won the senate electionFranko_3

[QUOTE="Franko_3"]I am so sick of the media craze around haiti. For the last week, everytime I open the news channel there someone talking about Haiti. Nothing else is happening in the world worthy of our attention? I had to go on wiki to see who won the senate electionpeaceoutmedusa

[QUOTE="peaceoutmedusa"][QUOTE="Franko_3"]I am so sick of the media craze around haiti. For the last week, everytime I open the news channel there someone talking about Haiti. Nothing else is happening in the world worthy of our attention? I had to go on wiki to see who won the senate electionFranko_3

Where can i watch this online? I don't think they'll show it in german TV...

I have some news for you die-hard "America-First" peeps:

The United States, right now, is better off then just about every other country in the world.

Even with 10% unemployment, swine flu outbreaks, Toyota vehicle recalls, US troops stretched thin all over the globe, a run-away deficit, tax increases, landslides, Hurricane Katrina, high crime rates, 9/11, Amber Alerts, [I feel like I'm singing a Billy Joel Song here], Pat Robertson, John Edwards' infidelity, bridges to nowhere, government over-spending and Bret Favre singing the Pants on the Ground Song, the USA right now is WAY WAY WAY BETTER OFF then just about every other country in the world.

America's homeless get more food and shelter then WORKING people in some other countries.

So please, stop worrying about this country's problems in comparison to other countrys' problems, like Haiti. It's insulting to humanity to suggest we should be taking care of ourselves first - we're already taken care of. Seriously. You are FINE. Even if you're living in a 1 bedroom apartment because you can't afford the mortgage on your house anymore, you're STILL FINE.

There aren't barricades of corpses lining your streets or helicopters air-dropping food to your neighborhoods for fear of being overrun by starving-looters.

Get some perspective. PLEASE.

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="peaceoutmedusa"] Yes there was. The 9/11 telethon was one of the hugest telethons ever. And you have to remember that more than 20 times as many people died in the Haiti earthquakes. Btw, since I answered your question could you delete your comment since second comments tend to make or break new threads... No offense, but this message really needs to get out.peaceoutmedusa

America's homeless get more food and shelter then WORKING people in some other countries.

Netherscourge

Where can i watch this online? I don't think they'll show it in german TV...

HeavenIceDay

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

America's homeless get more food and shelter then WORKING people in some other countries.

LJS9502_basic

And yet it's still nowhere NEAR as bad as the situaiton and conditions for people in Haiti right now.

The extremes of homelessness in America is nothing compared to the extremes of everyday life in some other countries.

Spend a week with your family in a straw hut, next to a crocodile infested river where you draw your water from, surronded by gangs of gun-toting criminals who rape and murder every night in the Congo and tell me how much better off those people are then America's homeless population...

Heck, spend a night in Haiti right now and tell me how much better off they are then our homeless. Their dumpsters are probably filled with dismembered body parts right now - would you trade that situation with our homeless situation?

Again - it's all about perspective.

This country is doing just fine when you look at the world around us.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

America's homeless get more food and shelter then WORKING people in some other countries.

Netherscourge

And yet it's still no where NEAR as bad as the situaiton and conditions for people in Haiti right now.

The extremes of homelessness in America is nothing compared to the extemes of everyday life in some other countries.

Spend a week with your family in a straw hut, next to a crocodile infested river where you draw your water from, surronded by gangs of gun-toting criminals who rape and murder every night in the Congo and tell me how much better off those people are then America's homeless population...

Heck, spend a night in Haiti right now and tell me how much better off they are then our homeless. Their dumpsters are probably filled with dismembered body parts right now - would you trade that situation for with our homeless situation?

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The homeless tend to sleep in the street (no matter the weather) and if they eat it is from garbage bins. Not sure how romantic a picture that is to you....but I don't find it a good way of life.

LJS9502_basic

And yet it's still no where NEAR as bad as the situaiton and conditions for people in Haiti right now.

The extremes of homelessness in America is nothing compared to the extemes of everyday life in some other countries.

Spend a week with your family in a straw hut, next to a crocodile infested river where you draw your water from, surronded by gangs of gun-toting criminals who rape and murder every night in the Congo and tell me how much better off those people are then America's homeless population...

Heck, spend a night in Haiti right now and tell me how much better off they are then our homeless. Their dumpsters are probably filled with dismembered body parts right now - would you trade that situation for with our homeless situation?

I'm responding to the "America-First" people who are trying to prioritize charity for a microcosm over a macrocosm.

[I know what I'm pointing out sounds insensitive locally, but I think the insensitivity from the other side is much harsher and needs to be addressed with some harsh, big-picture reality.]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="peaceoutmedusa"] seriously. Just stop. He donated a huge load of cash. And George Clooney has done nothing but humble himself and has tried to take spotlight away from him (ex he has been very timid and non self serving in his comments since then) so please just stop with that nonsense.

Snipes_2

I agree with this. One Million is Chicken Feed for these celebrities. Plus, They donate so everyone knows how "Good and Caring" they are. Not saying ALL of them are like this, but a majority are.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I asked a simple question. It's very much important if you are going to praise someone. Had he donated anonymously and the fact came out....he would indeed have done a noble deed.F1_2004

I agree with this. One Million is Chicken Feed for these celebrities. Plus, They donate so everyone knows how "Good and Caring" they are. Not saying ALL of them are like this, but a majority are.

I'm responding to the "America-First" people who are trying to prioritize charity for a microcosm over a macrocosm.

[I know what I'm pointing out sounds insensitive locally, but I think the insensitivity from the other side is much harsher and needs to be addressed with some harsh, big-picture reality.]

Netherscourge

200,000 people dying in one earthquake sure is sexy. The celebrities try to use their high profile to a lot of attention in order to bring the issue to light and encourage people/fans to donate. Nobody would watch a telethon consisting of Warren Buffet or Bill Gates talking about donating.F1_2004

[QUOTE="F1_2004"]200,000 people dying in one earthquake sure is sexy. The celebrities try to use their high profile to a lot of attention in order to bring the issue to light and encourage people/fans to donate. Nobody would watch a telethon consisting of Warren Buffet or Bill Gates talking about donating.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="F1_2004"]200,000 people dying in one earthquake sure is sexy. The celebrities try to use their high profile to a lot of attention in order to bring the issue to light and encourage people/fans to donate. Nobody would watch a telethon consisting of Warren Buffet or Bill Gates talking about donating.F1_2004

100% of the population don't watch the news, or fully understand the gravity of the situation. Celebrities don't need to own the moral high ground, they just need to encourage a few fans to donate, and that's enough, better than not having the telethon and not having those few people donate. Celebrities do hold plenty of sway over their fans/followers.

100% of the population don't watch the news, or fully understand the gravity of the situation. Celebrities don't need to own the moral high ground, they just need to encourage a few fans to donate, and that's enough, better than not having the telethon and not having those few people donate. Celebrities do hold plenty of sway over their fans/followers.

F1_2004

It's really nice to see something like this. But we have to remember that giving money is only one part of the solution. Rebuilding and restructuring is going to take a long time. But this telethon and all the other relief effort pouring in to Haiti by America and the international community is a great start.clubsammich91

yes it is. and we have to keep on going with it too.

The thing you arent understanding is that all these celebs that "donated" millions will be making that AND more back from being on TV as well as it being written off on the millions of dollars of taxes they owe at the end of the year.

So in reality, they are making money by donating money. Nothing more, nothing less.

PS : I also find it astounding how more money was donated via text messages to haiti in 24 hours than say... Veterans Affairs has had donated all year so far via ALL FORMS of donations combined.

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]It's really nice to see something like this. But we have to remember that giving money is only one part of the solution. Rebuilding and restructuring is going to take a long time. But this telethon and all the other relief effort pouring in to Haiti by America and the international community is a great start.peaceoutmedusa

yes it is. and we have to keep on going with it too.

Good point in regards to the rebuilding. Its unfortunate that they lack building standards, but its understandable considering its a third world country. Hopefully the US and others can help them with the proper way to "earthquake proof"a building. It will take time and money but it will all be worth it in the end.

The thing you arent understanding is that all these celebs that "donated" millions will be making that AND more back from being on TV as well as it being written off on the millions of dollars of taxes they owe at the end of the year.

So in reality, they are making money by donating money. Nothing more, nothing less.

Alter_Echo

Yeah, I agree... I also think most people will donate on their own and do not need a D bag puppet to tell them to. I have no respect for most of the celebrities in Hollywood as you can probably tell.

The thing you arent understanding is that all these celebs that "donated" millions will be making that AND more back from being on TV as well as it being written off on the millions of dollars of taxes they owe at the end of the year.

So in reality, they are making money by donating money. Nothing more, nothing less.

The thing you arent understanding is that all these celebs that "donated" millions will be making that AND more back from being on TV as well as it being written off on the millions of dollars of taxes they owe at the end of the year.

So in reality, they are making money by donating money. Nothing more, nothing less.

The thing you arent understanding is that all these celebs that "donated" millions will be making that AND more back from being on TV as well as it being written off on the millions of dollars of taxes they owe at the end of the year.

So in reality, they are making money by donating money. Nothing more, nothing less.

[QUOTE="Alter_Echo"][QUOTE="peaceoutmedusa"] so in realty too, whatever logic you use, they still gave millions of dollars to help Haiti.peaceoutmedusa

I find it just a bit hypocritical that some people in this thread who ahve said citizens need to go to charities for health care instead of the government are now out demonizing people who give to charity, not to mention some of those same people have said that people who don't have insurance just haven't earned it, but as soon as some of that money that those people haven't earned goes to people in need in a different country now suddenly there's a question of entitlement.

And when I do hear of famous that have contributed after the fact...they do get my respect. Public causes....not so much.

LJS9502_basic

I'm sure your respect is an issuethat keeps them up at night.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

And when I do hear of famous that have contributed after the fact...they do get my respect. Public causes....not so much.

theone86

I'm sure your respect is an issuethat keeps them up at night.

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

And when I do hear of famous that have contributed after the fact...they do get my respect. Public causes....not so much.

LJS9502_basic

I'm sure your respect is an issuethat keeps them up at night.

Your respect has nothing to do with the conversation, your point?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="theone86"]

I'm sure your respect is an issuethat keeps them up at night.

theone86

Your respect has nothing to do with the conversation, your point?

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] And that has zero to do with the conversation. Though I don't think that was your intent anyway.;)LJS9502_basic

Your respect has nothing to do with the conversation, your point?

Thisisn't ad hominem, it's about an element that YOU brought into the topic, your respect. You brought it up, therefore it's part of the topic. It's not relevant when you talk about it and ad hominem when anyone else talks about it.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="theone86"]

Your respect has nothing to do with the conversation, your point?

theone86

Thisisn't ad hominem, it's about an element that YOU brought into the topic, your respect. You brought it up, therefore it's part of the topic. It's not relevant when you talk about it and ad hominem when anyone else talks about it.

all I know is that Smallville got delayed a week because of it.......all because Bush had to test his damn earthquake machine.....screw you GW!...:evil:Omni-Slash

normally when this happens, the CW airs it tomo, on Saturday so stay tuned. Tjeremiah1988

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] If you wish to discuss the topic...fine. Ad hominems....not so much.LJS9502_basic

Thisisn't ad hominem, it's about an element that YOU brought into the topic, your respect. You brought it up, therefore it's part of the topic. It's not relevant when you talk about it and ad hominem when anyone else talks about it.

Did you PM it to him? No, then it's part of the topic. I'm fine dropping it, but it was in no way ad hominem, it's so goddamned sick of people using that crappy excuse of a detraction.

Ah more stars congratulating themselves on their altruistic work. Meh....

LJS9502_basic

Woah, its on pretty much every single station. Not to be a buzzkill or anything but the real travesty is that it took a 7.0 magnitude earthquake to make the crushing poverty of Haiti widely known.

Regardless, the earthquake is a horrible tragedy.

The Telethon is on right now. If you are doing something else, please stop what you are doing and watch this great cause, and donate right now