The reason Christianity is important....

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[QUOTE="stepnkev"]

There are some who do which is unfortunate. Like I said before, I do not agree with 'picking and choosing', so when you see someone who claims to be Christian do this, it proves nothing.

Um well considering that the Bible is supposed to be the wordf of God and all mere people have no right to choose what they believe. That would be undermining the ultimate proof that is their God.

Then you do not understand the scriptures. The NT gave a new higher law from Jesus Christ. There is no picking and choosing. There is following Jesus Christ.

[QUOTE="stepnkev"]

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

Um well considering that the Bible is supposed to be the wordf of God and all mere people have no right to choose what they believe. That would be undermining the ultimate proof that is their God.

sSubZerOo

Then you do not understand the scriptures. The NT gave a new higher law from Jesus Christ. There is no picking and choosing. There is following Jesus Christ.

post scriptures and I'll explain them to you.

[QUOTE="stepnkev"]

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

Um well considering that the Bible is supposed to be the wordf of God and all mere people have no right to choose what they believe. That would be undermining the ultimate proof that is their God.

sSubZerOo

Then you do not understand the scriptures. The NT gave a new higher law from Jesus Christ. There is no picking and choosing. There is following Jesus Christ.

That was not sexist, it was a privilege for women in the old days.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

Eh, I just heard about the drunkeness thing somewhere on the internet. Although a lot of Christians do pick and choose from the Bible.

ghoklebutter

Should Christians abide by every bit of obsoleteness found in the Bible just so that they are not accused of picking and choosing?

Well that doesn't mean they have to take it 100% literally.

But the point remains, some teachings of the Bible, logically, are not still being followed. And that is not picking and choosing.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="stepnkev"]

Then you do not understand the scriptures. The NT gave a new higher law from Jesus Christ. There is no picking and choosing. There is following Jesus Christ.

post scriptures and I'll explain them to you.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="stepnkev"]

Then you do not understand the scriptures. The NT gave a new higher law from Jesus Christ. There is no picking and choosing. There is following Jesus Christ.

That was not sexist, it was a privilege for women in the old days.

[QUOTE="stepnkev"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] There are things in the New Testament that we shouldn't follow... Some advocating that women shouldn't speak in church and other sexist things.. sSubZerOo

post scriptures and I'll explain them to you.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]If something is considered obsolete, why should it not be left out?

Should Christians abide by every bit of obsoleteness found in the Bible just so that they are not accused of picking and choosing?

Teenaged

Well that doesn't mean they have to take it 100% literally.

But the point remains, some teachings of the Bible, logically, are not still being followed. And that is not picking and choosing.

I know that. The Koran says to limit your intake of acholol in some verse yet I'm not following because that law was introduced when measures were made to restrict and eventually ban it.

There are other things not followed in the Bible, and not always for a logical reason.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="stepnkev"]

post scriptures and I'll explain them to you.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="stepnkev"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] There are things in the New Testament that we shouldn't follow... Some advocating that women shouldn't speak in church and other sexist things.. sSubZerOo

post scriptures and I'll explain them to you.

Thank you for proving my point you do not understand. Jesus directed this to the Pharisees. I'll explain more in detail later since I'm on my way to Church.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Ok how bout people should be put to death who curse their parents? Matthew 15:1-9 1 Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2 "Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don't wash their hands before they eat!" 3 Jesus replied, "And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, 'Honor your father and mother' and 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.' 5 But you say that if a man says to his father or mother, 'Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is a gift devoted to God,' 6he is not to 'honor his father' with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: 8 " 'These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. 9 They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.'"sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] There are things in the New Testament that we shouldn't follow... Some advocating that women shouldn't speak in church and other sexist things.. sSubZerOo

That was not sexist, it was a privilege for women in the old days.

The Bible probably said that because of the old laws for women. Women go through PMS, which makes them unfit for the job since they are more forgetful, irritable, and so on. Of course that's "oppression."

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

That was not sexist, it was a privilege for women in the old days.

The Bible probably said that because of the old laws for women. Women go through PMS, which makes them unfit for the job since they are more forgetful, irritable, and so on. Of course that's "oppression."

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Privlege what the hell privlege is that? Don't speak unless spoken too.. Its pretty much common knowledge that women were treated at best as second class citizens and at worse property..sSubZerOo

The Bible probably said that because of the old laws for women. Women go through PMS, which makes them unfit for the job since they are more forgetful, irritable, and so on. Of course that's "oppression."

There are other things not followed in the Bible, and not always for a logical reason.

ghoklebutter

Laws are there for a reason. You don't see Atheists burning down San Francisco just because they don't believe in God. This was a poorly thought out thread. hamstergeddon

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Privlege what the hell privlege is that? Don't speak unless spoken too.. Its pretty much common knowledge that women were treated at best as second class citizens and at worse property..sSubZerOo

The Bible probably said that because of the old laws for women. Women go through PMS, which makes them unfit for the job since they are more forgetful, irritable, and so on. Of course that's "oppression."

Well that doesn't mean women couldn't anything. It's just that for sermons, depending on whether Christians believe that blood is impure, it's a little impractical. Same law in Judaism.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

There are other things not followed in the Bible, and not always for a logical reason.

Teenaged

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

There are other things not followed in the Bible, and not always for a logical reason.

Teenaged

I'm generalizing. I've personnally seen lots of Christians ignore parts of the bible. I even met someone who said that Abraham was a mass-murderer and stuff. But then again, that is a display of ignorance.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Like?

ghoklebutter

I'm generalizing. I've personnally seen lots of Christians ignore parts of the bible. I even met someone who said that Abraham was a mass-murderer and stuff. But then again, that is a display of ignorance.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Like?

ghoklebutter

I'm generalizing. I've personnally seen lots of Christians ignore parts of the bible. I even met someone who said that Abraham was a mass-murderer and stuff. But then again, that is a display of ignorance.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]So you're not gonna answer me?

LJS9502_basic

I'm generalizing. I've personnally seen lots of Christians ignore parts of the bible. I even met someone who said that Abraham was a mass-murderer and stuff. But then again, that is a display of ignorance.

Well for starters this verse forbids pork:

"And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud,
it is unclean unto you. Ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their
dead carcass." [Deuteronomy 14:8]

Or am I mistaken?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

I'm generalizing. I've personnally seen lots of Christians ignore parts of the bible. I even met someone who said that Abraham was a mass-murderer and stuff. But then again, that is a display of ignorance.

ghoklebutter

Well for starters this verse forbids pork:

"And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud,
it is unclean unto you. Ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their
dead carcass." [Deuteronomy 14:8]

Or am I mistaken?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

I'm generalizing. I've personnally seen lots of Christians ignore parts of the bible. I even met someone who said that Abraham was a mass-murderer and stuff. But then again, that is a display of ignorance.

ghoklebutter

Well for starters this verse forbids pork:

"And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud,
it is unclean unto you. Ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their
dead carcass." [Deuteronomy 14:8]

Or am I mistaken?

And like it has been told like 100 times, we are able to judge whether or not a law in the Bible is obsolete and unnecessary to follow.

Teenaged

Yeah... too bad you don't need religion to have morality or ethical guidelines. And there was religion well before Christianity. Even if Christianity had not existed or died out along the way, another religion would be there to take its place. So its not really as important as you may think.

Also, "fear" is never a good thing. Whether in fear or God or in fear of the government. It only causes panic and distress, exactly the opposite of something that a religion should want to instill in its followers.

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[QUOTE="LeGoofyGoober"]

spartan life, ancient egyptian life, etc... were all brutal as hell... would you like to live by the spartan code?

LeGoofyGoober

When i reads statements like the one made by the tc. I wonder if people like him understands concepts like empathy.

This quote seems relevant: "A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death." Albert Einstein

I wouldn't exactly say Christianity is totally important.

Before Christianity, there were other religions with moral guidelines that helped people too.

[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"]Laws are there for a reason. You don't see Atheists burning down San Francisco just because they don't believe in God. This was a poorly thought out thread. Link334

I'm not trying to change anyone's religion either. I'm saying that there are people out there, who are Christian, who only do things out of fear of punishment. I'm not saying it's right. I'm not trying to convert anyone to Christianity. I'm saying for some people, God is all they have, and if they ever thought that God didn't exist, they might not be so willing to be a kind and courteous person to other humans.

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

I see you two have run the theists off so you are arguing amongst yourselves. Today is a sad sad day for non-believers everywhere.

Genetic_Code

I wuv woo too :oops:

I disagree. People got along before Christianity was around. Plus there is just inner morality. It does not always have something to do with religion.

The reason society runs (kinda)smoothly is because we have a natural instinct to preserve our existence. Kill somebody and that hurts our chances of survival so the killer is punished. Go to school and graduate and society gives you the nod. It's all about self-preservation.