The USA should just legalize Pot and Prostitution and Tax the earnings

[QUOTE="EasyStreet"]

They should leagalize all vices and call it a day, notice how crime went way down after 21st amendment.

CaveJohnson1

[QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]

Prostitution, no, absolutely not, there are so many problems that would be caused.

Pot maybe, but alot more study needs to be done scientifically and socially before we even consider legalizing it.

-Sun_Tzu-

Increased infidelity, in husbands especially

Increased transmission of STDs

[QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]

[QUOTE="EasyStreet"]

They should leagalize all vices and call it a day, notice how crime went way down after 21st amendment.

EasyStreet

that's why your argument is flawed, Something being legal doesn't mean a decrease in use, or negative affects associated with it, often an increase would result.

[QUOTE="EasyStreet"][QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]Crime would go down if we legalized Assualt and murder too.

CaveJohnson1

that's why your argument is flawed, Something being legal doesn't mean a decrease in use, or negative affects associated with it, often an increase would result.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="ArmoredCore55"]I don't think pot should be legal, it's bad for you.CaveJohnson1

Sure thing. I think prostitution is legal in a few places.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]

Prostitution, no, absolutely not, there are so many problems that would be caused.

Pot maybe, but alot more study needs to be done scientifically and socially before we even consider legalizing it.

CaveJohnson1

Increased infidelity, in husbands especially

Increased transmission of STDs

The legalization of pot and prostitution will not even make a dent into our massive deficit.DroidPhysX

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]

Prostitution, no, absolutely not, there are so many problems that would be caused.

Pot maybe, but alot more study needs to be done scientifically and socially before we even consider legalizing it.

CaveJohnson1

Increased infidelity, in husbands especially

Increased transmission of STDs

- People cheat. A lot. Legalized prostitution isn't going to change that.

- A legalized, regulated industry would not have that issue. Look at Nevada's brothels.

Both should be legalized, but not for the purpose of government revenue or to create new jobs. It should be legalized because it's a personal freedom that doesn't violently harm others.

Both should be legalized, but not for the purpose of government revenue or to create new jobs. It should be legalized because it's a personal freedom that doesn't violently harm others.

SpartanMSU

Both should be legalized, but not for the purpose of government revenue or to create new jobs. It should be legalized because it's a personal freedom that doesn't violently harm others.

SpartanMSU

Both should be legalized, but not for the purpose of government revenue or to create new jobs. It should be legalized because it's a personal freedom that doesn't violently harm others.

No one drives stoned.

They sit on a couch when they're stoned.

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Both should be legalized, but not for the purpose of government revenue or to create new jobs. It should be legalized because it's a personal freedom that doesn't violently harm others.

slarkyslark

At this point, why not?

You can create new jobs, have two completely new and dependable revenue streams and balance the budget!

Grandma, Grandpa and Retired Vets get to keep getting their checks and healthcare, we don't need any new taxes and people will generally be a lot happier.

How come no Democrat or Republican or Independent has brought that to the table? Why are there no research studies being done to determine the amount of tax revenue those two potential industries could provided for the USA?

What are we waiting for?

Netherscourge

that crap would never have happened if it was legal because fake weed would not exist.

his name was max dobner. kinda a bummer that there is a market for that crap.

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Both should be legalized, but not for the purpose of government revenue or to create new jobs. It should be legalized because it's a personal freedom that doesn't violently harm others.

slarkyslark

- People who want to smoke pot do so regardless. That won't change. And the same rules could be placed on it as alcohol.

- Agan, look at Nevada.

[QUOTE="slarkyslark"][QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Both should be legalized, but not for the purpose of government revenue or to create new jobs. It should be legalized because it's a personal freedom that doesn't violently harm others.

- People who want to smoke pot do so regardless. That won't change. And the same rules could be placed on it as alcohol.

- Agan, look at Nevada.

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Both should be legalized, but not for the purpose of government revenue or to create new jobs. It should be legalized because it's a personal freedom that doesn't violently harm others.

slarkyslark

Do you know how many more there will be? Because all evidence points to a decrease. Not that it matters, if people want to get high let them. If they hurt others while doing it or drive intoxicated than they will be punished, just like alcohol and driving drunk...

There would be less STDs, considering prostitutes would be tested for them if the business has any common sense. No ones going to go to a brothel with infected hookers. And even if they didn't test them, no ones forcing the people to go their and have sex with hookers. It's their choice. If they get an STD, then it's their fault. If you have unprotected sex and get an STD, guess what, it's your fault. No ones forcing you to smoke weed or have sex with hookers.

The arguments you're making for the banning of prostitution and weed could be used for most of our personal freedoms we enjoy.

Yeahhhhhhhhhh....no.

here is some more ammo.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43248071/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/global-war-drugs-has-failed-key-panel-says/

"Political leaders and public figures should have the courage to articulate publicly what many of them acknowledge privately: that the evidence overwhelmingly demonstrates that repressive strategies will not solve the drug problem, and that the war on drugs has not, and cannot, be won," the report said.

The 19-member commission includes former UN chief Kofi Annan and former US official George Schultz, who held cabinet posts under Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon. Others include former chairman of the US Federal Reserve Paul Volcker, former presidents of Mexico, Brazil and Colombia, the authors Carlos Fuentes and Mario Vargas Llosa, the businessman Sir Richard Branson and the Greek prime minister, George Papandreou.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="slarkyslark"] Really? Do you know how much more high pot smokers there will be? Driving cars stoned isn't harmful to others? What about stds when it comes to prostitution? If it was allowed, there would be a lot more women doing it for the easy money, causing a faster spread of stds everywhere. Is that not harmful to others?sonicare

- People who want to smoke pot do so regardless. That won't change. And the same rules could be placed on it as alcohol.

- Agan, look at Nevada.

Sure a few would. Not any signifigant percentage of people however.

Pot and other drugs, sure, why not.

Prostitution, I'm not so sure about.

Marijuana I agree 100% with (I'd also like to legalize some/all hard drugs including cocaine), prostitution I have mixed feelings on but tend to oppose mainly because I don't want to see women pressured or forced into prostitution to pay off debts.

chessmaster1989

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Keep prostitution illegal too. Because unless they spent the money to regulate it and make it a legitimate service, It would be an industry of the STD. so.. No thanks. It would cost more to set up a legitimate service than the money it'd make, i'm quite sure of it.Lost-Memory

No it wouldn't. Sex is an industry that rakes in billions per year.

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Both should be legalized, but not for the purpose of government revenue or to create new jobs. It should be legalized because it's a personal freedom that doesn't violently harm others.

slarkyslark

Yes... really.

I don't care if there are more pot smokers. Marijuana legalization does not imply that driving under the influence of marijuana would be allowable, anymore than the general legalization of alcohol allows that laws against driving under the influence of alcohol are suspended. Nor do they imply that those who participate in drugs and then harm others as a result are not to be held accountable for their actions.

Additionally, while I am sure that some prostitution would lead to STD transmission, I am not convinced that legitimate businesses would be able to sustain that without some measures in place. After all, whena business service is legalized, the usual ability to seek redress in a court and legislation would be available to the average individual buying that service. something that isn't at all available to them in a black market.

Basically, don't compare how these markets and services would operate while legalized and held to the same scrutiny as other business markets and services to how they operate now under a black market. The comparison will nearly always be invalid.

Sounds good to me. HoolaHoopMan

One day the dream of all the people smokin weed shall come true and it WILL happen, it's just a matter of time as we grow more progressive. However, for all of you thinking of Coke becoming legal, good luck. Smoke a doob while you wait until you die. As for hookers, I don't see it happening in the next 25 years or so. Too prudent we are as a society. That's why violence on tv is more acceptable than sex. Just sayin.

Yes I agree. While Prostituion is a little iffy, the way I see it is why shouldn't we forbid people from doing what they want with their bodies? And how is porn legal but not Prostituion?

Yes I agree. While Prostituion is a little iffy, the way I see it is why shouldn't we forbid people from doing what they want with their bodies? And how is porn legal but not Prostituion?

Grodus5

With porn you're not paying the person to have sex with you. Legal loopholes FTW!

[QUOTE="Grodus5"]

Yes I agree. While Prostituion is a little iffy, the way I see it is why shouldn't we forbid people from doing what they want with their bodies? And how is porn legal but not Prostituion?

worlock77

With porn you're not paying the person to have sex with you. Legal loopholes FTW!

Isn't the porn company also paying the actors to have sex with each other?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Grodus5"]

Yes I agree. While Prostituion is a little iffy, the way I see it is why shouldn't we forbid people from doing what they want with their bodies? And how is porn legal but not Prostituion?

SpartanMSU

With porn you're not paying the person to have sex with you. Legal loopholes FTW!

Isn't the porn company also paying the actors to have sex with each other?

Obstensibly yes, though I think there's some technicality where they're, technically, only paying the actors to appear on film. "Anything beyond that is a decision between consenting adults" and all that jazz. At least if what I've read is corrent.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Grodus5"]

Yes I agree. While Prostituion is a little iffy, the way I see it is why shouldn't we forbid people from doing what they want with their bodies? And how is porn legal but not Prostituion?

SpartanMSU

With porn you're not paying the person to have sex with you. Legal loopholes FTW!

Isn't the porn company also paying the actors to have sex with each other?

Well firstly decriminalise it in certain areas would certainly save on the ridiculous cost of incarcerating the kids who merely want to give their brain a tickle. They did that in designated areas London when I was living there and it worked fine - a little grocery store in Clapham North used to sell little 10 bags over the counter, which I'm sure the local bobbies were chuffed about as they could focus their energy on hunting down muderers, rapists, paedohphiles and - even worse still - illegal immigrants.

lol @ people saying yes marijuana should be legal, but prostitution shouldn't... then proceed to give the same reasons why prostitution shouldn't be legal as people do about marijuana.

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

With porn you're not paying the person to have sex with you. Legal loopholes FTW!

stanleycup98

Isn't the porn company also paying the actors to have sex with each other?

lol @ people saying yes marijuana should be legal, but prostitution shouldn't... then proceed to give the same reasons why prostitution shouldn't be legal as people do about marijuana.

BMD004

Legalising prostitution is certainly a good thing. They do that here in Melbourne - you still get the smacked up chicks on the streets, but there are plenty of clean brothels which are tightly managed and safe. There's one around the corner where I used to live which I thinkwas the first one ever to be listed on Australian Stock Exchange. Makes a heap of cash that place.

If I paid a pimp to "produce" my porn movie, and he happened to pay his girl "actress" the exact same amount of money that I paid my pimp producer, and I decided to be nice and work free of charge, and it was filmed, then does that count as prostitution or is that a porn?

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-pro-marijuana-arguments-that-arent-helping/

I'll just leave this here because it speaks the truth.

[QUOTE="BMD004"]

lol @ people saying yes marijuana should be legal, but prostitution shouldn't... then proceed to give the same reasons why prostitution shouldn't be legal as people do about marijuana.

poptart

Legalising prostitution is certainly a good thing. They do that here in Melbourne - you still get the smacked up chicks on the streets, but there are plenty of clean brothels which are tightly managed and safe. There's one around the corner where I used to live which I thinkwas the first one ever to be listed on Australian Stock Exchange. Makes a heap of cash that place.

No, they are paying the actors to perform in a movie. They just happen to be having sex in their movies.stanleycup98

:shock:

I think you're joking, but in case you aren't... nobody's paying them to "act".

[QUOTE="stanleycup98"][QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Isn't the porn company also paying the actors to have sex with each other?

BMD004

Yeah, that's totally the same thing. No, this is basically the argument that's been used in courts by porn producers and the courts have agreed. The actors are being paid to be on film. The sex is a decision between consenting adults. It's kind like how you can find escorts legally operating in most major cities. You're paying them for their companionship, not for sex. If sex happens it's a because you and the escort have decided to have sex, not because you've paid them for sex. Sure, in hiring them you expect sex, but it's never explicitly stated by ether party, thus it's legal. Loopholes are awesome.

[QUOTE="stanleycup98"]No, they are paying the actors to perform in a movie. They just happen to be having sex in their movies.m0zart

:shock:

I think you're joking, but in case you aren't... nobody's paying them to "act".

[QUOTE="BMD004"]

[QUOTE="stanleycup98"] No, they are paying the actors to perform in a movie. They just happen to be having sex in their movies.worlock77

Yeah, that's totally the same thing. No, this is basically the argument that's been used in courts by porn producers and the courts have agreed. The actors are being paid to be on film. The sex is a decision between consenting adults. It's kind like how you can find escorts legally operating in most major cities. You're paying them for their companionship, not for sex. If sex happens it's a because you and the escort have decided to have sex, not because you've paid them for sex. Sure, in hiring them you expect sex, but it's never explicitly stated by ether party, thus it's legal. Loopholes are awesome.