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[QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]that aint even me brahYou looked better before you ate a guido. :o
I'm joking.
Stanley09
I was kidding. :)
[QUOTE="Alacoque72"]Correlation not causationDo you just have to be sore the next day to make your muscles grow? With or without weights?
rawsavon
What does that mean?
Correlation not causation[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Alacoque72"]
Do you just have to be sore the next day to make your muscles grow? With or without weights?
Alacoque72
What does that mean?
Being sore =/= muscle growth. Being sore goes along with muscle growth It is not the cause, but it is often (though not always) a side effect ...thus correlation, not causationThis thread reminds me of EVOEVOLUTION. :(
A moment of silence.
How routine do I need to lose 30 lbs as safely as possible? Weight loss is the priority and then definition. Advice?
[QUOTE="Alacoque72"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] Correlation not causationrawsavon
What does that mean?
Being sore =/= muscle growth. Being sore goes along with muscle growth It is not the cause, but it is often (though not always) a side effect ...thus correlation, not causationSo if my pecs are sore for 2 or 3 days after I do pushups are they going to grow? Because people say pushups are more for endurance.
I'm guessing the increase of weight lifting threads = new years resolutions. Well good luck on your quest for fitness guys, my quest lies in the world..............
of warcraft. Don't tell me you didn't see that coming.
Interval training for your cardio + body weight exercises (pushups, pullups, chinups, dips, lunges, free squats, etc) =minimal chance of injuryThis thread reminds me of EVOEVOLUTION. :(
A moment of silence.
How routine do I need to lose 30 lbs as safely as possible? Weight loss is the priority and then definition. Advice?
entropyecho
Being sore =/= muscle growth. Being sore goes along with muscle growth It is not the cause, but it is often (though not always) a side effect ...thus correlation, not causation[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Alacoque72"]
What does that mean?
Alacoque72
So if my pecs are sore for 2 or 3 days after I do pushups are they going to grow? Because people say pushups are more for endurance.
That is not a YES or NO question. It is all about how you lift (no matter if it is with weights or your own body) -certain ways of lifting (reps and weight) promote growth and others promote endurance...though it is not an exclusive relationship by any meansI am in need of a good at-home cardio workout video. I don't like going to the gym and I find I can't push myself enough on the treadmill enough to get a decent enough of a run. I used to have a 45 minute video that had various kinds of excersises and such. Something similar to that.
Interval training for your cardio + body weight exercises (pushups, pullups, chinups, dips, lunges, free squats, etc) =minimal chance of injuryrawsavon
I am assuming this is okay given my atrociously bad knees?
Try running to your iPod (or whatever you use..). Tell yourself that you'll run for 8-12 songs (could be 30-45 minutes)...depending on your ability. Just pick a number and promise yourself to run to that many songs. It'll motivate you to just power through. You can't run if you're telling yourself you can't or don't want to run. Your actual running times will vary, but it'll keep you interested and motivated. You'll be able to either increase the number of songs you run to or just neglect looking at it that way and then you can set a distance goal or something. If that doesn't work, maybe you can run on a treadmill with a TV in front of it. Anything that takes your mind off of running until you enjoy running enough to forget that you're running in the first place. It'll make sense once you get there. It's worth a shot, isn't it?I am in need of a good at-home cardio workout video. I don't like going to the gym and I find I can't push myself enough on the treadmill enough to get a decent enough of a run. I used to have a 45 minute video that had various kinds of excersises and such. Something similar to that.
iloverikku11
[QUOTE="rawsavon"] Interval training for your cardio + body weight exercises (pushups, pullups, chinups, dips, lunges, free squats, etc) =minimal chance of injuryentropyecho
I am assuming this is okay given my atrociously bad knees?
People hear interval training and their mind thinks running...but it can be any activity really. (bike, elliptical, swim, row machine...w/e) You just go all out for a set amount of time and then relax (go slower) for a set amount of time -increasing the number of intervals and duration of them as time goes on[QUOTE="entropyecho"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] Interval training for your cardio + body weight exercises (pushups, pullups, chinups, dips, lunges, free squats, etc) =minimal chance of injuryrawsavon
I am assuming this is okay given my atrociously bad knees?
People hear interval training and their mind thinks running...but it can be any activity really. (bike, elliptical, swim, row machine...w/e) You just go all out for a set amount of time and then relax (go slower) for a set amount of time -increasing the number of intervals and duration of them as time goes on Yeah this is a great way to either get started or change things up once you get bored with your routine. I started running distance a few summers ago. I got bored after about three months of it and then stopped because of how unappealing it was. Intervals helped, but an exercise bike saved me. Those things are so fun.No. Once you're in a routine you shouldn't even be sore. I workout so often I'm rarely ever sore. If I am, I likely did something I shouldn't have.Do you just have to be sore the next day to make your muscles grow? With or without weights?
Alacoque72
Being sore =/= muscle growth. Being sore goes along with muscle growth It is not the cause, but it is often (though not always) a side effect ...thus correlation, not causation[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Alacoque72"]
What does that mean?
Alacoque72
So if my pecs are sore for 2 or 3 days after I do pushups are they going to grow? Because people say pushups are more for endurance.
Pushups will definitely not help you gain mass, they are basically for endurance[QUOTE="Alacoque72"]No. Once you're in a routine you shouldn't even be sore. I workout so often I'm rarely ever sore. If I am, I likely did something I shouldn't have. err not always. Though you might not always be sore, if for example you maxed out on squats one day, you would likely be feeling it in your legs the next dayDo you just have to be sore the next day to make your muscles grow? With or without weights?
UCF_Knight
[QUOTE="Alacoque72"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] Being sore =/= muscle growth. Being sore goes along with muscle growth It is not the cause, but it is often (though not always) a side effect ...thus correlation, not causationStanley09
So if my pecs are sore for 2 or 3 days after I do pushups are they going to grow? Because people say pushups are more for endurance.
Pushups will definitely not help you gain mass, they are basically for endurance That is 100% false. It is all how you do it. Hershel Walker (one of the best college players of all time and current MMA fighter has never lifted a weight in his life...feel free to Google his build...like a statue) All you have to do is increase the difficulty of pushup (like lifting heavier weight versus light weight) -normal pushups = lifting low to medium weight = endurance -increased difficulty (through a variety of techniques) = lifting heavy weightblack superhuman genetics / 10 there is NO WAY an average person is going to put on significant mass by doing pushupsStanley09
I did hear that black people tend to be genetically more prone to developing muscle in a few different places. It would require a lot of dedication either way.
[QUOTE="Stanley09"]black superhuman genetics / 10 there is NO WAY an average person is going to put on significant mass by doing pushupsLeejjohno
I did hear that black people tend to be genetically more prone to developing muscle in a few different places. It would require a lot of dedication either way.
ya, definitely. Its just that you shouldnt just be doing a bunch of pushups every night and expect to turn out huge and ripped a few months later.[QUOTE="Stanley09"][QUOTE="Alacoque72"]Pushups will definitely not help you gain mass, they are basically for endurance That is 100% false. It is all how you do it. Hershel Walker (one of the best college players of all time and current MMA fighter has never lifted a weight in his life...feel free to Google his build...like a statue) All you have to do is increase the difficulty of pushup (like lifting heavier weight versus light weight) -normal pushups = lifting low to medium weight = endurance -increased difficulty (through a variety of techniques) = lifting heavy weightSo if my pecs are sore for 2 or 3 days after I do pushups are they going to grow? Because people say pushups are more for endurance.
rawsavon
Oh god, this reminds me of when I first got my weighted vest a few months ago. I loaded up the weight on it, and gave it a go with 80 pounds...
Never again.
What type of push-up would you consider for the equivalent of heavy lifting? diamond?
[QUOTE="Stanley09"]rawsavonWow...that is where you are going with this...really :? All you have to do is increase the difficulty (like lifting heavier weights with lower reps). It is all about how you work out the muscles. I am curious how long you have been lifting to reach the conclusions you have ITT.That's what I was wondering.
[QUOTE="Stanley09"][QUOTE="Alacoque72"]Pushups will definitely not help you gain mass, they are basically for endurance That is 100% false. It is all how you do it. Hershel Walker (one of the best college players of all time and current MMA fighter has never lifted a weight in his life...feel free to Google his build...like a statue) All you have to do is increase the difficulty of pushup (like lifting heavier weight versus light weight) -normal pushups = lifting low to medium weight = endurance -increased difficulty (through a variety of techniques) = lifting heavy weightSo if my pecs are sore for 2 or 3 days after I do pushups are they going to grow? Because people say pushups are more for endurance.
rawsavon
I squeeze my arms inwards hard as I do pushups. Is that enough to gain some mass? Is there any other things like that I can do with pushups?
That is 100% false. It is all how you do it. Hershel Walker (one of the best college players of all time and current MMA fighter has never lifted a weight in his life...feel free to Google his build...like a statue) All you have to do is increase the difficulty of pushup (like lifting heavier weight versus light weight) -normal pushups = lifting low to medium weight = endurance -increased difficulty (through a variety of techniques) = lifting heavy weight[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Stanley09"] Pushups will definitely not help you gain mass, they are basically for endurance Baconbits2004
Oh god, this reminds me of when I first got my weighted vest a few months ago. I loaded up the weight on it, and gave it a go with 80 pounds...
Never again.
What type of push-up would you consider for the equivalent of heavy lifting? diamond?
Weighted vests are great for all types. If you have a partner, you can have them stack weight on your back (used to have a gf sit on my back).
Also, there are different elevations and arm widths. Not to mention ones with odd motions (like dive bombers)
But yeah, diamond is great along with one arm ones.
There were no weight machines in ancient times...yet we have the statue of David...hmmmm...just saying
if pushups gave you just as good of a workout as weights, then why do so many people waste going to the gym when they can just do pushups at home?Stanley09There's probably more than just physical strength as a factor when it comes to people in general working out. Some people wouldn't be caught dead in a gym. I know someone who compares gym equipment to torture machines.
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