The Weight Lifting / Fitness Thread!

Height doesnt really matter. A short guy will naturally look bigger/thicker because he has smaller limbs. Correct me if im wrong, but for a gymnast, their goal is to preform the flips, or show or whatever you want. They arent trying to get huge. If free weight things were just as good, then more top level people would be supporting it.Stanley09

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I actually find this intresting, from my perosnal expeience, I have been lifting wieght s for 2 years now, and I got satisfying results, but I always thought I could be better, recently I abandoned lift wieghts for the a new hardcore programme which focuses on repitiations and bodywieht excersices and I have to admit, my stamina went up, my muscles became more defined, I dun think they became bigger, but they definitely stronger.

omho88

Body weight exercises are a great addition to any routine for the reasons you named.
You can also increase size by increasing the difficult and decreasing the reps (changing angles, grips, and/or stance).
But I would be quite happy having a gymnast build for my frame

Another benefit it that those exercises are more functional for real world situations

So if i want to burn fat and build muscle, should i eat a lot and weight lift and do cardio or should i have a diet and do weight lifting/cardio?

So if i want to burn fat and build muscle, should i eat a lot and weight lift and do cardio or should i have a diet and do weight lifting/cardio?

butteman12

[QUOTE="butteman12"]

So if i want to burn fat and build muscle, should i eat a lot and weight lift and do cardio or should i have a diet and do weight lifting/cardio?

lightleggy

[QUOTE="butteman12"]

So if i want to burn fat and build muscle, should i eat a lot and weight lift and do cardio or should i have a diet and do weight lifting/cardio?

lightleggy

[QUOTE="butteman12"]

So if i want to burn fat and build muscle, should i eat a lot and weight lift and do cardio or should i have a diet and do weight lifting/cardio?

lightleggy

What exactly is the point of this thread? I'm all for discussing working out, but I don't get it.dodgerblue13

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="butteman12"]

So if i want to burn fat and build muscle, should i eat a lot and weight lift and do cardio or should i have a diet and do weight lifting/cardio?

butteman12

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="butteman12"]

So if i want to burn fat and build muscle, should i eat a lot and weight lift and do cardio or should i have a diet and do weight lifting/cardio?

BranKetra

[QUOTE="butteman12"]

So if i want to burn fat and build muscle, should i eat a lot and weight lift and do cardio or should i have a diet and do weight lifting/cardio?

lightleggy

[QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] Which is also false. I could get anyone to make just as good of progress with freebody exercises as with weights in a gym -given equal time spent working out, equal eating habits, etc Actually, somethings cannot be recreated in a gym...chinups, pullups, combos, dips. The machines that try are not nearly as effective ITT, you were giving out false information and did not provide any backup for what you were asserting. At the gym, I could care less when people do something wrong (I do nothing more than chuckle to myself). But I will say something when they try tell others something wrong. There are always guys at the gym that have not been working out for very long, that don't know what they are doing, but have made some gains (b/c everyone makes gains at the start...basically no matter what you do), and then become the 'expert' guy. I see this all the time.rawsavon

Both of you seem to be posting extremes. A combination of both types of exercises would be optimaland that is the information both of you should be offering people instead of arguing over which type is better. Would you mind expanding further on that bolded statement? Anyone is a strong word and genetics play a big role.

Ah, I see. The ab comments are definitely off base.

OP.. Who are you.. Are you aware Couth_

[QUOTE="butteman12"]

So if i want to burn fat and build muscle, should i eat a lot and weight lift and do cardio or should i have a diet and do weight lifting/cardio?

lightleggy

[QUOTE="Couth_"]OP.. Who are you.. Are you aware Stanley09

[QUOTE="Stanley09"][QUOTE="Couth_"]OP.. Who are you.. Are you aware Couth_

[QUOTE="Calvin079"]

What should a cardio workout include? I already run 15 mins minimum before a work out and another 15 on an elliptical machine (aftera workout). But I should concentrate on cardio in 2 workout session and would like some tips. What exercises would be good for this?

Stanley09

My fitness orientated goal for 2011 is to quit smoking these damn cigarettes before I land myself a case of chronic obstructive lungdisease.

/lights up

[QUOTE="Stanley09"][QUOTE="Calvin079"]

What should a cardio workout include? I already run 15 mins minimum before a work out and another 15 on an elliptical machine (aftera workout). But I should concentrate on cardio in 2 workout session and would like some tips. What exercises would be good for this?

Calvin079

[QUOTE="Stanley09"][QUOTE="Calvin079"]

What should a cardio workout include? I already run 15 mins minimum before a work out and another 15 on an elliptical machine (aftera workout). But I should concentrate on cardio in 2 workout session and would like some tips. What exercises would be good for this?

Calvin079

My fitness orientated goal for 2011 is to quit smoking these damn cigarettes before I land myself a case of chronic obstructive lungdisease.

/lights up

BiancaDK

So, once again I ask the question; what cardio exercises should I do beside the running and elliptical?

So, once again I ask the question; what cardio exercises should I do beside the running and elliptical?

Calvin079

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Stanley09"] Is this a joke? Compound lifts are ideal for gaining muscle/ burning calories. buttman, do intense weight lifting along with as much cardio as you can handle. Intense weight lifting will burn more calories actually than cardioStanley09

I say it because bars are usually the heaviest things in a gym (if they have weights on them ofc) and most people dont know how to lift them. and yeah I suggest you to start slow...go ahead and ask any trainer if they would tell a fatguy to go full on super heavy weightlifting the first day he comes in...

Cool thread here :D

My goals right now are to get to about 170lbs.

One year ago (exactly oddly enough) I started working out a few times a week and eating more w/ protein shakes. (Forgot that was going UP to 170lbs). Last year at...

17 years

145lbs

6'4"

Now I am...

18 years (obviously)

163lbs

6'4"

Looking and feeling much stronger and more energetic than before and don't plan to stop anytime soon. I hope to be up to 170lbs before I go off to college and maintain working there, but hopefully keep around that weight. Long term goal is Vin Diesel levels of manliness.

I say it because bars are usually the heaviest things in a gym (if they have weights on them ofc) and most people dont know how to lift them. and yeah I suggest you to start slow...go ahead and ask any trainer if they would tell a fatguy to go full on super heavy weightlifting the first day he comes in...lightleggy

Cool thread here :D

My goals right now are to get to about 170lbs.

One year ago (exactly oddly enough) I started working out a few times a week and eating more w/ protein shakes. (Forgot that was going UP to 170lbs). Last year at...

17 years

145lbs

6'4"

Now I am...

18 years (obviously)

163lbs

6'4"

Looking and feeling much stronger and more energetic than before and don't plan to stop anytime soon. I hope to be up to 170lbs before I go off to college and maintain working there, but hopefully keep around that weight. Long term goal is Vin Diesel levels of manliness.

bachilders

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]I say it because bars are usually the heaviest things in a gym (if they have weights on them ofc) and most people dont know how to lift them. and yeah I suggest you to start slow...go ahead and ask any trainer if they would tell a fatguy to go full on super heavy weightlifting the first day he comes in...ff7fan2

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Stanley09"] lol, a fat guy is not going to get a heart attack from intensly lifting weightsStanley09

do you actually know this? I mean are you a trained professional? do you know all of the fatguys you see doing this? because, there are multiple reasons why you dont have fat people dying around you...maybe they are not new to the gym, maybe they've had previous experience, maybe their routines ARE planned according to what they can lift...because you know when you enter a gym its not like the trainer tells you "ok you are fat go and start lifting 300lb with that bar" seriously can you actually account for what you say about giving fatties extreme routines as soon as they put a foot inside the gym?

I dont know the english name for it...but this is very common in bodybuilding AND also in weightlifting (wheter you are a fat guy or not) when you start doing more work than recovery...thats why fat guys dont get crazy weightlifting routines...they arent very healthy to begin with...they need to improve their physical condition before they can put them into serious weightlifting and you wont improve your physical condition by, say, being completly new to a gym and not being very healthy, then start lifting 100 lb weights for 2 hours and doing the same (or harder) work next day...

its true that if you dont feel anything when you lift weights then you need to increase the weight or repetitions you do...but that doesnt means that you should raise something which is way beyond your capabilities

[QUOTE="Stanley09"][QUOTE="lightleggy"] if he doesnt get enough cardio, yes he will, he totally will...why do you think that those weight-losing programs tell you to follow an extremely strict schedule? if it says "stop after 5 minutes of weightlifting" you should probably stop after 5 minutes of weightliftinglightleggy

do you actually know this? I mean are you a trained professional? do you know all of the fatguys you see doing this? because, there are multiple reasons why you dont have fat people dying around you...maybe they are not new to the gym, maybe they've had previous experience, maybe their routines ARE planned according to what they can lift...because you know when you enter a gym its not like the trainer tells you "ok you are fat go and start lifting 300lb with that bar" seriously can you actually account for what you say about giving fatties extreme routines as soon as they put a foot inside the gym?

I dont know the english name for it...but this is very common in bodybuilding AND also in weightlifting (wheter you are a fat guy or not) when you start doing more work than recovery...thats why fat guys dont get crazy weightlifting routines...they arent very healthy to begin with...they need to improve their physical condition before they can put them into serious weightlifting and you wont improve your physical condition by, say, being completly new to a gym and not being very healthy, then start lifting 100 lb weights for 2 hours and doing the same (or harder) work next day...

its true that if you dont feel anything when you lift weights then you need to increase the weight or repetitions you do...but that doesnt means that you should raise something which is way beyond your capabilities

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

[QUOTE="Stanley09"] If this was true then there would be heart attacks left and right. All ive ever seen happen is that the fat guy gets really winded and has to take a quick break to sit down and catch his breathStanley09

do you actually know this? I mean are you a trained professional? do you know all of the fatguys you see doing this? because, there are multiple reasons why you dont have fat people dying around you...maybe they are not new to the gym, maybe they've had previous experience, maybe their routines ARE planned according to what they can lift...because you know when you enter a gym its not like the trainer tells you "ok you are fat go and start lifting 300lb with that bar" seriously can you actually account for what you say about giving fatties extreme routines as soon as they put a foot inside the gym?

I dont know the english name for it...but this is very common in bodybuilding AND also in weightlifting (wheter you are a fat guy or not) when you start doing more work than recovery...thats why fat guys dont get crazy weightlifting routines...they arent very healthy to begin with...they need to improve their physical condition before they can put them into serious weightlifting and you wont improve your physical condition by, say, being completly new to a gym and not being very healthy, then start lifting 100 lb weights for 2 hours and doing the same (or harder) work next day...

its true that if you dont feel anything when you lift weights then you need to increase the weight or repetitions you do...but that doesnt means that you should raise something which is way beyond your capabilities

just got back from a jog. is that what im supposed to do in this thread? :|

[QUOTE="Stanley09"][QUOTE="lightleggy"]

do you actually know this? I mean are you a trained professional? do you know all of the fatguys you see doing this? because, there are multiple reasons why you dont have fat people dying around you...maybe they are not new to the gym, maybe they've had previous experience, maybe their routines ARE planned according to what they can lift...because you know when you enter a gym its not like the trainer tells you "ok you are fat go and start lifting 300lb with that bar" seriously can you actually account for what you say about giving fatties extreme routines as soon as they put a foot inside the gym?

I dont know the english name for it...but this is very common in bodybuilding AND also in weightlifting (wheter you are a fat guy or not) when you start doing more work than recovery...thats why fat guys dont get crazy weightlifting routines...they arent very healthy to begin with...they need to improve their physical condition before they can put them into serious weightlifting and you wont improve your physical condition by, say, being completly new to a gym and not being very healthy, then start lifting 100 lb weights for 2 hours and doing the same (or harder) work next day...

its true that if you dont feel anything when you lift weights then you need to increase the weight or repetitions you do...but that doesnt means that you should raise something which is way beyond your capabilities

lightleggy