The Weight Lifting / Fitness Thread!

Them aesthetic pics to motivate some people

And I know you all want to look this, go out there and achieve it!

[QUOTE="FrostMTG"]

[QUOTE="Alacoque72"]

I squeeze my arms inwards hard as I do pushups. Is that enough to gain some mass? Is there any other things like that I can do with pushups?

Stanley09

I'm reading through this thread and facepalming as people insist to do body weight stuff only and hope to gain mass.

GO TO THE GYM.

SQUATS

DEADLIFTS

BENCHPRESS

BB ROWS

OHP

Jesus christ.

Eat oats.

Indeed. Many people don't know what compound means.:D

In factGo to the site of multiple chans, go to the /fit/ forum, and insist on doing body weight exercises instead of compound movements.

They will either label you as a troll or an idiot.

Compound. Just man up and go to the gym, do them.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="Stanley09"]haha Im not posting pics, but here is my routine if you wish. A week would look like this.....monday: A wed: B Fri: A Mon: B etc etc Workout A 3x5 Squat 3x5 Bench Press 1x5 Deadlift dips bicep exercise abs Workout B 3x5 Squat 3x5 Standing military press 3x5 Pendlay Rows shrug pullups absStanley09

Not bad for someone just starting out...kind of lacking in quite a few areas/groups.
I would start someone out with more variety and longer sessions in the first months, but that is just me.
-seems rather short and only focuses on some major groups

Also, listing a routine does not demonstrate that you are knowledgeable.
Lifting is one of those things where the proof is in the pudding...what we can see

1. too little time spent lifting...only 6 exercises with hardly any sets at all
2. you are not hitting the major groups enough...1 bicep exercise, really?
3. missing the minor groups of muscles

That workout looks like it would take about 25 min tops to complete. Either that or you are taking waaaay too long b/w sets

[QUOTE="Stanley09"][QUOTE="FrostMTG"]

I'm reading through this thread and facepalming as people insist to do body weight stuff only and hope to gain mass.

GO TO THE GYM.

SQUATS

DEADLIFTS

BENCHPRESS

BB ROWS

OHP

Jesus christ.

Eat oats.

FrostMTG

Indeed. Many people don't know what compound means.:D

In factGo to the site of multiple chans, go to the /fit/ forum, and insist on doing body weight exercises instead of compound movements.

They will either label you as a troll or an idiot.

Compound. Just man up and go to the gym, do them.

[QUOTE="Stanley09"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

Not bad for someone just starting out...kind of lacking in quite a few areas/groups.
I would start someone out with more variety and longer sessions in the first months, but that is just me.
-seems rather short and only focuses on some major groups

Also, listing a routine does not demonstrate that you are knowledgeable.
Lifting is one of those things where the proof is in the pudding...what we can see

rawsavon

1. too little time spent lifting...only 6 exercises with hardly any sets at all
2. you are not hitting the major groups enough...1 bicep exercise, really?
3. missing the minor groups of muscles

That workout looks like it would take about 25 min tops to complete. Either that or you are taking waaaay too long b/w sets

major groups? your hitting them all through compound lifts.

bicep is not a major group, that is an isolation. what minor groups? You hit all of them through the compound lifts

edit: gs quick reply sucks. it wont let me press enter.

But if you just want to gain muscle, cardio isnt really needed, and actually cardio would be bad in this case because it burns extra caloriesStanley09

[QUOTE="Stanley09"] But if you just want to gain muscle, cardio isnt really needed, and actually cardio would be bad in this case because it burns extra caloriesCalvin079

10-15 minutes of cardio is fine before working out, it is.

Doing intense cardio 3 or more times a week can affect gains.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Stanley09"] Time is irrelevant. major groups? your hitting them all through compound lifts. bicep is not a major group, that is an isolation what minor groups? You hit all of them through the compound lifts FrostMTG

I always thought the gamespot OT forum would be a decent place to start various fitness discussions.

Nah.

Misinformed neck beards everywhere.

He already told you to go look up rippletoe's to get more info on it.

You refuse because you wish to troll.

Get out.

[QUOTE="Stanley09"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] Please back this claim up with something more than a weightlifting website rawsavon

[QUOTE="FrostMTG"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] Hit them versus hit them enough...big difference. I don't think there is any way this workout is doing what you think it is for you. But (as I have said many times), perhaps I am wrong...please show us otherwiseStanley09

I always thought the gamespot OT forum would be a decent place to start various fitness discussions.

Nah.

Misinformed neck beards everywhere.

He already told you to go look up rippletoe's to get more info on it.

You refuse because you wish to troll.

Get out.

You've already told him to look up rippletoes for a wealth of information.

I already explained to him that it doesn't matter how many exercises you do, and I told him that low rep and high weight builds mass.

I already proved him wrong when he said "hurr durr stanley you're not hitting the major muscle groups hurr durr"

I completely proved him wrong by listing all the muscle groups it works out, see my above post.

Watch him deny that too, brb popcorn.

FrostMTG

[QUOTE="Stanley09"] But if you just want to gain muscle, cardio isnt really needed, and actually cardio would be bad in this case because it burns extra caloriesCalvin079

[QUOTE="FrostMTG"]rawsavon

Thousands of people have used Rippetoe's Starting Strength to great avail...search it for yourself if you want.Stanley09

http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/strengthtraining/a/compound_ex.htm

The sources are at the bottom, so if you blow this off then this further proves that you a indeed a troll.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Stanley09"] You dont need to back up common sense.... someone pushing an increasingly heavy weight away from their body is going to progress better than someone doing a standard pushup over and over againbobaban

This thread.

SureIsMisinformedINHere

SureIsButtmad.

I'm out guys, peace

What should a cardio workout include? I already run 15 mins minimum before a work out and another 15 on an elliptical machine (aftera workout). But I should concentrate on cardio in 2 workout session and would like some tips. What exercises would be good for this?

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="FrostMTG"] He said he had been lifting for over a year. So when you say "When you start out weight lifting'...it does not apply...he should be far beyond where he is. After a year and a half he should be hitting individual muscles a great deal more than he is. There is a difference in hitting something with a compound exercise and iso one [QUOTE="Stanley09"] Thousands of people have used Rippetoe's Starting Strength to great avail...search it for yourself if you want.FrostMTG

http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/strengthtraining/a/compound_ex.htm

The sources are at the bottom, so if you blow this off then this further proves that you a indeed a troll.

[QUOTE="FrostMTG"]rawsavon

This thread.

SureIsMisinformedINHere

SureIsButtmad.

I'm out guys, peace

FrostMTG

What should a cardio workout include? I already run 15 mins minimum before a work out and another 15 on an elliptical machine (aftera workout). But I should concentrate on cardio in 2 workout session and would like some tips. What exercises would be good for this?

Calvin079

[QUOTE="bobaban"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] Well then, if it so common, you should have no problem backing up said claims, right?rawsavon

Still it is much faster to build muscle by lifting heavy weights, its physics, not debatable. bobaban

From the book "Building the Gymnastic Body":
It's weight training using the weight of your own body. Just in case you think that it's impossible to get the same or better results with bodyweight exercises as you would if using actual weights or weight machines, consider that gymnasts have awesome physiques with which they can perform amazing feats of strength and skill- and they rely almost exclusively on bodyweight exercises...both scientific and anecdotal explanations as well as the specific exercises that can be done to get you in better shape than lifting weights ever could. While there is some equipment that you need to do all the exercises, like gymnastic rings and parallel bars, there are also many exercises that don't require anything more than a floor and a wall to perform....I've been doing L-sits, dips, and handstand pushups with nothing but the floor, the wall, and sometimes two chairs back to back. I also have a pull up bar, which is excellent for building strength and muscle mass...However, I've noticed an increase in muscle mass and strength which also feels much more functional than what I experienced with weight lifting. There's less risk of injury with bodyweight exercises because it's more difficult to use too much weight and each workout is custom tailored to you because it's your body. Resistance can easily be adjusted to account for level of physical fitness just by varying body positions

Still it is much faster to build muscle by lifting heavy weights, its physics, not debatable. bobaban

I don't mean to "nitpick"; I want clarity.

[QUOTE="bobaban"]Still it is much faster to build muscle by lifting heavy weights, its physics, not debatable. rawsavon

From the book "Building the Gymnastic Body":
It's weight training using the weight of your own body. Just in case you think that it's impossible to get the same or better results with bodyweight exercises as you would if using actual weights or weight machines, consider that gymnasts have awesome physiques with which they can perform amazing feats of strength and skill- and they rely almost exclusively on bodyweight exercises...both scientific and anecdotal explanations as well as the specific exercises that can be done to get you in better shape than lifting weights ever could. While there is some equipment that you need to do all the exercises, like gymnastic rings and parallel bars, there are also many exercises that don't require anything more than a floor and a wall to perform....I've been doing L-sits, dips, and handstand pushups with nothing but the floor, the wall, and sometimes two chairs back to back. I also have a pull up bar, which is excellent for building strength and muscle mass...However, I've noticed an increase in muscle mass and strength which also feels much more functional than what I experienced with weight lifting. There's less risk of injury with bodyweight exercises because it's more difficult to use too much weight and each workout is custom tailored to you because it's your body. Resistance can easily be adjusted to account for level of physical fitness just by varying body positions

Steroids can do wonders, look at you.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="bobaban"]Still it is much faster to build muscle by lifting heavy weights, its physics, not debatable. Stanley09

From the book "Building the Gymnastic Body":
It's weight training using the weight of your own body. Just in case you think that it's impossible to get the same or better results with bodyweight exercises as you would if using actual weights or weight machines, consider that gymnasts have awesome physiques with which they can perform amazing feats of strength and skill- and they rely almost exclusively on bodyweight exercises...both scientific and anecdotal explanations as well as the specific exercises that can be done to get you in better shape than lifting weights ever could. While there is some equipment that you need to do all the exercises, like gymnastic rings and parallel bars, there are also many exercises that don't require anything more than a floor and a wall to perform....I've been doing L-sits, dips, and handstand pushups with nothing but the floor, the wall, and sometimes two chairs back to back. I also have a pull up bar, which is excellent for building strength and muscle mass...However, I've noticed an increase in muscle mass and strength which also feels much more functional than what I experienced with weight lifting. There's less risk of injury with bodyweight exercises because it's more difficult to use too much weight and each workout is custom tailored to you because it's your body. Resistance can easily be adjusted to account for level of physical fitness just by varying body positions

What are you talking about...they are huge (for their size/frame).
They can't help that they are small. But they are bigger for their frame than almost any other group of athletes (not counting lineman)

...prety big for a guy that is so small (height and bone structure)

[QUOTE="bobaban"]Still it is much faster to build muscle by lifting heavy weights, its physics, not debatable. rawsavon

From the book "Building the Gymnastic Body":
It's weight training using the weight of your own body. Just in case you think that it's impossible to get the same or better results with bodyweight exercises as you would if using actual weights or weight machines, consider that gymnasts have awesome physiques with which they can perform amazing feats of strength and skill- and they rely almost exclusively on bodyweight exercises...both scientific and anecdotal explanations as well as the specific exercises that can be done to get you in better shape than lifting weights ever could. While there is some equipment that you need to do all the exercises, like gymnastic rings and parallel bars, there are also many exercises that don't require anything more than a floor and a wall to perform....I've been doing L-sits, dips, and handstand pushups with nothing but the floor, the wall, and sometimes two chairs back to back. I also have a pull up bar, which is excellent for building strength and muscle mass...However, I've noticed an increase in muscle mass and strength which also feels much more functional than what I experienced with weight lifting. There's less risk of injury with bodyweight exercises because it's more difficult to use too much weight and each workout is custom tailored to you because it's your body. Resistance can easily be adjusted to account for level of physical fitness just by varying body positions

I actually find this intresting, from my perosnal expeience, I have been lifting wieght s for 2 years now, and I got satisfying results, but I always thought I could be better, recently I abandoned lift wieghts for the a new hardcore programme which focuses on repitiations and bodywieht excersices and I have to admit, my stamina went up, my muscles became more defined, I dun think they became bigger, but they definitely stronger.