they say this is the possible missing link between humans and apes....

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="dave123321"] What are your thoughts on evolution?mattisgod01

In evolution Macro-Evolution is simply the compounded effects of Micro-Evolution, The distinction between the two is fairly arbitrary as the only thing that separates them is time and scale. If you believe in one why can't you believe in the other?

lol Evolution just looks stupider and stupider. I seriously don't know how anyone could possibily believe in it.ShadowsDemon

Amazing what an education will do for you

lol Evolution just looks stupider and stupider. I seriously don't know how anyone could possibily believe in it.ShadowsDemon

it's actually proven and has been witnessed :?

lol Evolution just looks stupider and stupider. I seriously don't know how anyone could possibily believe in it.ShadowsDemon

Have you ever read "The Origin of Species"? Or any book on Evolutionary Biology? :roll:

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]lol Evolution just looks stupider and stupider. I seriously don't know how anyone could possibily believe in it.Joshywaa

Amazing what an education will do for you

How many missing links do we have to find before people stop calling them missing links?

I think TheApostle is the missing link.

I'm just gonna leave THIS here.

[QUOTE="bbwwoman"]

http://www.news.com.au/world/australopithecus-sediba-the-two-million-year-old-boy/story-e6frfkyi-1225851674465

well im gonna say that this looks just like any other ape skull but they think its more human like than ape lol.

well let the debate begin between evo's & crea's,i will give my opinion as im entitled to one is that i dont think we evolved from apes nor do i believe some all powerful god created everything including humans.

DumbDonald

i honestly dont know how we got here or if we are even native to this planet,when you think about it we are nothing like any of the other species on earth.

we dont have a natural balance to this planet unlike all the other species which do have a natural balance,the closest thing i can think we resemble is a virus or a cancer,our race is nothing but a destructive thing that destroys in total disregard of anything else.

we are the only species that can create to further advance ourselves...again unlike anything else on this planet and it really does make one wonder.

[QUOTE="DumbDonald"][QUOTE="bbwwoman"]

http://www.news.com.au/world/australopithecus-sediba-the-two-million-year-old-boy/story-e6frfkyi-1225851674465

well im gonna say that this looks just like any other ape skull but they think its more human like than ape lol.

well let the debate begin between evo's & crea's,i will give my opinion as im entitled to one is that i dont think we evolved from apes nor do i believe some all powerful god created everything including humans.

bbwwoman

i honestly dont know how we got here or if we are even native to this planet,when you think about it we are nothing like any of the other species on earth.

we dont have a natural balance to this planet unlike all the other species which do have a natural balance,the closest thing i can think we resemble is a virus or a cancer,our race is nothing but a destructive thing that destroys in total disregard of anything else.

we are the only species that can create to further advance ourselves...again unlike anything else on this planet and it really does make one wonder.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]lol Evolution just looks stupider and stupider. I seriously don't know how anyone could possibily believe in it.wis3boi

it's actually proven and has been witnessed :?

How many missing links do we have to find before people stop calling them missing links?

metroidfood

[QUOTE="AussieePet"][QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] We are apes. We are apart of the great ape family so to speakimaps3fanboy

My sperm can't impregnate an ape, so there is no reason to try and have sex with them..

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]lol Evolution just looks stupider and stupider. I seriously don't know how anyone could possibily believe in it.ShadowsDemon

it's actually proven and has been witnessed :?

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]lol Evolution just looks stupider and stupider. I seriously don't know how anyone could possibily believe in it.ShadowsDemon

it's actually proven and has been witnessed :?

It's funny, because theres a massive amount of published literature that proves the exact opposite.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

it's actually proven and has been witnessed :?

metroidfood

It's funny, because theres a massive amount of published literature that proves the exact opposite.

Yep, exactly. Just found this cool little example:

"Almost, But Not Quite, a Whale. The fossil record suggests that whales evolved on land, and intermediate species have been identified. But what of their last terrestrial ancestor? In 2007, researchers showed that Indohyus — a 50 million-year-old, dog-sized member of the extinct raoellidae ungulate family — had ears, teeth and bones that resembled whales, not other raoellids."

lol@ people believing we are apes now AussieePet

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

it's actually proven and has been witnessed :?

wis3boi

I hope that the evolution deniers are just trolls, but just in case, I'm going to link a lovely video.

Richard Dawkins; 'Life, Darwin & Everything'

[QUOTE="mattisgod01"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"] I believe in micro-evolution. Generations obviously change over time. However, I don't believe in macro-evolution, or speciation.The-Apostle

In evolution Macro-Evolution is simply the compounded effects of Micro-Evolution, The distinction between the two is fairly arbitrary as the only thing that separates them is time and scale. If you believe in one why can't you believe in the other?

In the short term, no. Over millions of years, yes.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] No, it's not proven, nor has it been witnessed. The mere thought is absurd.ShadowsDemon

You don't have to disagree just because you believe in God.

I for one believe in both God and Evolution.

As for actual proof of Evolution, there isn't any, just like there isn't any proof that a God exists or not.

I hope that the evolution deniers are just trolls, but just in case, I'm going to link a lovely video.

Richard Dawkins; 'Life, Darwin & Everything'

Inconsistancy

well the way i see it is that both sides have no proof,there is no proof that god exists and theres no proof we evolved from apes.

well the way i see it is that both sides have no proof,there is no proof that god exists and theres no proof we evolved from apes.

bbwwoman

That's because we didn't evolve from apes. Rather humans and apes evolved seperately from a common ancestor. For f*ck's sake, at least try to understand the subject before saying it's wrong.

[QUOTE="bbwwoman"]

well the way i see it is that both sides have no proof,there is no proof that god exists and theres no proof we evolved from apes.

worlock77

That's because we didn't evolve from apes. Rather humans and apes evolved seperately from a common ancestor. For f*ck's sake, at least try to understand the subject before saying it's wrong.

He is correct though.

There is no undeniable 100% factual without a doubt proof from either perspective.

Hence why humans have this never ending debate.

PS: I don't think he said anything about being wrong, just that there is no proof.

I'm still sticking with Australopithecus Africanus as the missing link. It's 1.5 million years older and more closely resembles an ape.

[QUOTE="bbwwoman"]

well the way i see it is that both sides have no proof,there is no proof that god exists and theres no proof we evolved from apes.

worlock77

That's because we didn't evolve from apes. Rather humans and apes evolved seperately from a common ancestor. For f*ck's sake, at least try to understand the subject before saying it's wrong.

for f*ck sake,attack me lol,how bout you understand what i wrote f*ck head,i said theres no proof that there is even evolution.

lol@ people believing we are apes now AussieePet

[QUOTE="AussieePet"]lol@ people believing we are apes now muller39

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="bbwwoman"]

well the way i see it is that both sides have no proof,there is no proof that god exists and theres no proof we evolved from apes.

FelipeInside

That's because we didn't evolve from apes. Rather humans and apes evolved seperately from a common ancestor. For f*ck's sake, at least try to understand the subject before saying it's wrong.

He is correct though.

There is no undeniable 100% factual without a doubt proof from either perspective.

Hence why humans have this never ending debate.

PS: I don't think he said anything about being wrong, just that there is no proof.

Right, there's no proof of evolution except extensive fossel records including numerous examples of the Homo genus.

[QUOTE="AussieePet"][QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] We are apes. We are apart of the great ape family so to speakimaps3fanboy

My sperm can't impregnate an ape, so there is no reason to try and have sex with them..

Well, actually... They say human and chimpanzee dna might be similar enough for us to breed.. But ya, no ones really given that theory a very thorough testing...

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] No, it's not proven, nor has it been witnessed. The mere thought is absurd.ShadowsDemon

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

I hope that the evolution deniers are just trolls, but just in case, I'm going to link a lovely video.

Richard Dawkins; 'Life, Darwin & Everything'

FelipeInside

It's because, to me, it's unthinkable that someone would believe in creationism over evolution after being presented the evidence.

It's like believing the Earth is flat, that simply isn't correct. It's not a matter of preference, it's reality.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

That's because we didn't evolve from apes. Rather humans and apes evolved seperately from a common ancestor. For f*ck's sake, at least try to understand the subject before saying it's wrong.

worlock77

He is correct though.

There is no undeniable 100% factual without a doubt proof from either perspective.

Hence why humans have this never ending debate.

PS: I don't think he said anything about being wrong, just that there is no proof.

Right, there's no proof of evolution except extensive fossel records including numerous examples of the Homo genus.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

I hope that the evolution deniers are just trolls, but just in case, I'm going to link a lovely video.

Richard Dawkins; 'Life, Darwin & Everything'

Inconsistancy

It's because, to me, it's unthinkable that someone would believe in creationism over evolution after being presented the evidence.

It's like believing the Earth is flat, that simply isn't correct.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Right, there's no proof of evolution except extensive fossel records including numerous examples of the Homo genus.

FelipeInside

There's plenty of fossils linking the two. Plus heaps of DNA evidence.

Saying "there isn't evidence for either side" is flat wrong since there's very clear evidence for evolution if you pick up a book on biology.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Right, there's no proof of evolution except extensive fossel records including numerous examples of the Homo genus.

metroidfood

There's plenty of fossils linking the two. Plus heaps of DNA evidence.

Saying "there isn't evidence for either side" is flat wrong since there's very clear evidence for evolution if you pick up a book on biology.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

He is correct though.

There is no undeniable 100% factual without a doubt proof from either perspective.

Hence why humans have this never ending debate.

PS: I don't think he said anything about being wrong, just that there is no proof.

FelipeInside

Right, there's no proof of evolution except extensive fossel records including numerous examples of the Homo genus.

I'd say that as far as primates go pretty much every fossil is a "missing link". But the term "missing link" is, it seems, most often used by people who don't necessarily have a great grasp on the subject. It seems people use the term expecting there to be one revelatory fossil where we can say "oh, this is where X became Y".

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]

Snakes have leg bones that no longer provide function, same with our gallbladders. We have human remains that go back 3-4 million years, and as you find human remains that get closer and closer to modern times, you can witness the changes in the body. Fossils: They are there for you to learn from. Species don't just pop into existence the way they are today out of thin air.wis3boi

You don't have to disagree just because you believe in God.

I for one believe in both God and Evolution.

As for actual proof of Evolution, there isn't any, just like there isn't any proof that a God exists or not.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Well if you believe in God then you do disagree. As I do. And as for that "proof", even Charles Darwin himself said that if he was wrong in any way then his entire theory of evoltion was wrong. And he was proven wrong many times. :lol:

You don't have to disagree just because you believe in God.

I for one believe in both God and Evolution.

As for actual proof of Evolution, there isn't any, just like there isn't any proof that a God exists or not.

[QUOTE="metroidfood"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] There is proof of "extensive fossel records including numerous examples of the Homo genus." but nothing linking the two. Hence why we have the "MISSING LINK" argument. I'm NOT saying Evolution isn't correct, just stating the situation of the evidence.FelipeInside

There's plenty of fossils linking the two. Plus heaps of DNA evidence.

Saying "there isn't evidence for either side" is flat wrong since there's very clear evidence for evolution if you pick up a book on biology.

I rarely see scientists say "this could be the missing link". It's usually journalists saying such things because they ether lack understanding and/or have to cater to a general public which lacks understanding.

I believe in Evolution, but I also believe in a God since Evolution had to start somewhere....FelipeInside

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Well if you believe in God then you do disagree. As I do. And as for that "proof", even Charles Darwin himself said that if he was wrong in any way then his entire theory of evoltion was wrong. And he was proven wrong many times. :lol:

ShadowsDemon

You don't have to disagree just because you believe in God.

I for one believe in both God and Evolution.

As for actual proof of Evolution, there isn't any, just like there isn't any proof that a God exists or not.

If that's your proof of God's existence then you must accept that all other gods spoken of by man exist as well.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]I believe in Evolution, but I also believe in a God since Evolution had to start somewhere....foxhound_fox