Thanks for the picture of your NORMAL LOOKING NOSE.
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The problem with sending the money to africa is that most africans aren't christian. I don't believe it is necessary to give them food to survive longer when I already know where they'll end up in the end. Just my honest opinion, sorry if it offends anyone.The_OT_Man:lol:
[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="kipohippo021"] If you have money to spare its not a waste, but i assume tc is not crazy rich. If he wants to make himself feel better, why not buy clothes or something more affordable? A nose job is much to expensive to just make yourself feel better. If anyone here (assuming nobody has something worse) needs cosmetic surgery here, its me. And i still dont want it cause its a waste of money.kipohippo021You are not using amount now....like I said that is flawed logic You are using percentage of wealth which is something completely different...which is still flawed, just not as much Say its 4000 dollars, can you just spare 4000 dollars? Not many people can, if you can afford plastic surgery no problem, great. If you cant, then it can be a problem. Its a luxury, not a necesity. Like i dont go on 4000 dollar shopping sprees, tc shouldnt spend that much on surgery. If you have that money to spare then you should be using it for good. ANYTHING you buy beyond what is necessary to survive is a luxury. It is all about what provides you with the most 'value' (as determined buy you). -some people spend 20,000 on car...some people spend 16,000 on a car and $4,000 on a nose job -it is all about what provides you with the most value/utility We are ALL wasteful...to say otherwise is hypocritical
The problem with sending the money to africa is that most africans aren't christian. I don't believe it is necessary to give them food to survive longer when I already know where they'll end up in the end. Just my honest opinion, sorry if it offends anyone.The_OT_Man
Dude! That is the most ignorant concept, you don't want to give money to some Africans because you think they are going to hell for not believeing exactly what you believe, why are you telling us this?
The problem with sending the money to africa is that most africans aren't christian. I don't believe it is necessary to give them food to survive longer when I already know where they'll end up in the end. Just my honest opinion, sorry if it offends anyone.The_OT_Man....and the thread takes a turn
If you have money to spare its not a waste, but i assume tc is not crazy rich. If he wants to make himself feel better, why not buy clothes or something more affordable? A nose job is much to expensive to just make yourself feel better. If anyone here (assuming nobody has something worse) needs cosmetic surgery here, its me. And i still dont want it cause its a waste of money.[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] How does amount determine waste...sounds like some severely flawed logic to meMeat_Wad_Fan
Ok well he can either fix something on his face that he has to live with the rest of his life for a relatively cheap price, or he can waste money on material things he will need to replace down the road... your logic fails. Again you or your parents(most likely) own things that they could have spent less money on, smaller tv, more affordable car, cheaper clothes, no videogames, cheaper computer, and the list can go on. Everybody spends money on things they don't really need. I don't think it's reallyappropriate for you to tell him it's a waste of money when to him it's probably more one of the most important things he can do in his life.
but plastic surgery is not a cheap thing. Its also not something that will keep you busy or entertained, you can change your need for a new nose. You just have to be at peace with your body (nose). A tv will always solve your boredom.[QUOTE="The_OT_Man"]The problem with sending the money to africa is that most africans aren't christian. I don't believe it is necessary to give them food to survive longer when I already know where they'll end up in the end. Just my honest opinion, sorry if it offends anyone.rawsavon....and the thread takes a turn
Yeah, that pretty much killed any reason to defend him...
[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] You are not using amount now....like I said that is flawed logic You are using percentage of wealth which is something completely different...which is still flawed, just not as muchrawsavonSay its 4000 dollars, can you just spare 4000 dollars? Not many people can, if you can afford plastic surgery no problem, great. If you cant, then it can be a problem. Its a luxury, not a necesity. Like i dont go on 4000 dollar shopping sprees, tc shouldnt spend that much on surgery. If you have that money to spare then you should be using it for good. ANYTHING you buy beyond what is necessary to survive is a luxury. It is all about what provides you with the most 'value' (as determined buy you). -some people spend 20,000 on car...some people spend 16,000 on a car and $4,000 on a nose job -it is all about what provides you with the most value/utility We are ALL wasteful...to say otherwise is hypocritical But you can cure your need for a new nose, i cured my need for cosmetic surgery. Its in the mind. Sure you dont need a tv or a car, but it makes things easier for you. Even so, if you wanna spend more, i still belive its a waste, i try to spend as little as possible on stuff.
....and the thread takes a turn[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="The_OT_Man"]The problem with sending the money to africa is that most africans aren't christian. I don't believe it is necessary to give them food to survive longer when I already know where they'll end up in the end. Just my honest opinion, sorry if it offends anyone.TheGrayEye
Yeah, that pretty much killed any reason to defend him...
There is still a discussion going on, wether what sparked it was true or not. "is plastic surgery a waste of money?" my awnser still stands at yes.[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="kipohippo021"] Say its 4000 dollars, can you just spare 4000 dollars? Not many people can, if you can afford plastic surgery no problem, great. If you cant, then it can be a problem. Its a luxury, not a necesity. Like i dont go on 4000 dollar shopping sprees, tc shouldnt spend that much on surgery. If you have that money to spare then you should be using it for good. kipohippo021ANYTHING you buy beyond what is necessary to survive is a luxury. It is all about what provides you with the most 'value' (as determined buy you). -some people spend 20,000 on car...some people spend 16,000 on a car and $4,000 on a nose job -it is all about what provides you with the most value/utility We are ALL wasteful...to say otherwise is hypocritical But you can cure your need for a new nose, i cured my need for cosmetic surgery. Its in the mind. Sure you dont need a tv or a car, but it makes things easier for you. Even so, if you wanna spend more, i still belive its a waste, i try to spend as little as possible on stuff. I believe that a nose job would help me with the ladies in the future and I would be able to achieve great things if I were to acquire a new nose. I do not think this is wasteful at all. I am doing what I believe is right.
[QUOTE="The_OT_Man"]Here is a picture of my nose. http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz141/ ....... olivemaster ........ /Mobile%20Uploads/Photo0152.jpg?t=1285539091kamikaze_pigmyOh look, a banned user by that very same username! How coincidental. Oh tc.....
The problem with sending the money to africa is that most africans aren't christian. I don't believe it is necessary to give them food to survive longer when I already know where they'll end up in the end. Just my honest opinion, sorry if it offends anyone.The_OT_Man
i really hope your trolling cause if not you are the reason i dislike most christians: they're VERY un-christian.
[QUOTE="Meat_Wad_Fan"][QUOTE="kipohippo021"] If you have money to spare its not a waste, but i assume tc is not crazy rich. If he wants to make himself feel better, why not buy clothes or something more affordable? A nose job is much to expensive to just make yourself feel better. If anyone here (assuming nobody has something worse) needs cosmetic surgery here, its me. And i still dont want it cause its a waste of money.kipohippo021
Ok well he can either fix something on his face that he has to live with the rest of his life for a relatively cheap price, or he can waste money on material things he will need to replace down the road... your logic fails. Again you or your parents(most likely) own things that they could have spent less money on, smaller tv, more affordable car, cheaper clothes, no videogames, cheaper computer, and the list can go on. Everybody spends money on things they don't really need. I don't think it's reallyappropriate for you to tell him it's a waste of money when to him it's probably more one of the most important things he can do in his life.
but plastic surgery is not a cheap thing. Its also not something that will keep you busy or entertained, you can change your need for a new nose. You just have to be at peace with your body (nose). A tv will always solve your boredom.Wow, you have to be joking. So you're saying getting a tv more is worth more because you can sit on your ass inside your house all day long and watch it, as opposed to getting something done that won't make people look at you funny, or talk behind your back anymore, as well as give you a masive boost in confidence so that you can go out and live life to the fullest?
You have no argument.
[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] ANYTHING you buy beyond what is necessary to survive is a luxury. It is all about what provides you with the most 'value' (as determined buy you). -some people spend 20,000 on car...some people spend 16,000 on a car and $4,000 on a nose job -it is all about what provides you with the most value/utility We are ALL wasteful...to say otherwise is hypocriticalThe_OT_ManBut you can cure your need for a new nose, i cured my need for cosmetic surgery. Its in the mind. Sure you dont need a tv or a car, but it makes things easier for you. Even so, if you wanna spend more, i still belive its a waste, i try to spend as little as possible on stuff. I believe that a nose job would help me with the ladies in the future and I would be able to achieve great things if I were to acquire a new nose. I do not think this is wasteful at all. I am doing what I believe is right. I have pectus exarvatium, and i dont think it will help or hurt me to get it fixed. If a girl likes me, its becase of my personality. If they have a problem with my chest, they can go **** themselves.
[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="Meat_Wad_Fan"]
Ok well he can either fix something on his face that he has to live with the rest of his life for a relatively cheap price, or he can waste money on material things he will need to replace down the road... your logic fails. Again you or your parents(most likely) own things that they could have spent less money on, smaller tv, more affordable car, cheaper clothes, no videogames, cheaper computer, and the list can go on. Everybody spends money on things they don't really need. I don't think it's reallyappropriate for you to tell him it's a waste of money when to him it's probably more one of the most important things he can do in his life.
but plastic surgery is not a cheap thing. Its also not something that will keep you busy or entertained, you can change your need for a new nose. You just have to be at peace with your body (nose). A tv will always solve your boredom.Wow, you have to be joking. So you're saying getting a tv more is worth more because you can sit on your ass inside your house all day long and watch it, as opposed to getting something done that won't make people look at you funny, or talk behind your back anymore, as well as give you a masive boost in confidence so that you can go out and live life to the fullest?
You have no argument.
but your self consious image of yourself is in the mind. I can be ugly as hell and win ugliest man of the year, if i think im handsome. Then whats the problem? Its in the mind, and you shouldnt pay 4000 to get your nose fixed, when the real problem is in the mind. If you think its a big enough deal, then get therapy.[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="kipohippo021"] Say its 4000 dollars, can you just spare 4000 dollars? Not many people can, if you can afford plastic surgery no problem, great. If you cant, then it can be a problem. Its a luxury, not a necesity. Like i dont go on 4000 dollar shopping sprees, tc shouldnt spend that much on surgery. If you have that money to spare then you should be using it for good. kipohippo021ANYTHING you buy beyond what is necessary to survive is a luxury. It is all about what provides you with the most 'value' (as determined buy you). -some people spend 20,000 on car...some people spend 16,000 on a car and $4,000 on a nose job -it is all about what provides you with the most value/utility We are ALL wasteful...to say otherwise is hypocritical But you can cure your need for a new nose, i cured my need for cosmetic surgery. Its in the mind. Sure you dont need a tv or a car, but it makes things easier for you. Even so, if you wanna spend more, i still belive its a waste, i try to spend as little as possible on stuff. TV does not make your life easier...it is a want...same as nose If the nose makes him feel 'good' it could be argued that it is less wasteful than a TV that does nothing but waste time You are trying top assign your view of what is 'valuable' to the TC ...that seems pretty high and mighty to me...it is all about what is valuable to him, not you We all waste...it is not for you to judge someone else's wastefulness until you no longer waste money yourself
[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] ANYTHING you buy beyond what is necessary to survive is a luxury. It is all about what provides you with the most 'value' (as determined buy you). -some people spend 20,000 on car...some people spend 16,000 on a car and $4,000 on a nose job -it is all about what provides you with the most value/utility We are ALL wasteful...to say otherwise is hypocriticalThe_OT_ManBut you can cure your need for a new nose, i cured my need for cosmetic surgery. Its in the mind. Sure you dont need a tv or a car, but it makes things easier for you. Even so, if you wanna spend more, i still belive its a waste, i try to spend as little as possible on stuff. I believe that a nose job would help me with the ladies in the future and I would be able to achieve great things if I were to acquire a new nose. I do not think this is wasteful at all. I am doing what I believe is right.
But yesterday you were looking for gay thugs to date.:?
[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] ANYTHING you buy beyond what is necessary to survive is a luxury. It is all about what provides you with the most 'value' (as determined buy you). -some people spend 20,000 on car...some people spend 16,000 on a car and $4,000 on a nose job -it is all about what provides you with the most value/utility We are ALL wasteful...to say otherwise is hypocriticalrawsavonBut you can cure your need for a new nose, i cured my need for cosmetic surgery. Its in the mind. Sure you dont need a tv or a car, but it makes things easier for you. Even so, if you wanna spend more, i still belive its a waste, i try to spend as little as possible on stuff. TV does not make your life easier...it is a want...same as nose If the nose makes him feel 'good' it could be argued that it is less wasteful than a TV that does nothing but waste time You are trying top assign your view of what is 'valuable' to the TC ...that seems pretty high and mighty to me...it is all about what is valuable to him, not you We all waste...it is not for you to judge someone else's wastefulness until you no longer waste money yourself again, self image is in the mind. You can overcome it. You dont need to spend money on it, its the cowards way out.
when the real problem is in the mind. If you think its a big enough deal, then get therapy.kipohippo021Do you have a degree in psychology :? Because some people really do have one ***ed up feature, and fixing that changes their whole outlook on life. (yes, some people do have body image issues...but that is not for you to say as someone without the credentials to do so)
[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="kipohippo021"] But you can cure your need for a new nose, i cured my need for cosmetic surgery. Its in the mind. Sure you dont need a tv or a car, but it makes things easier for you. Even so, if you wanna spend more, i still belive its a waste, i try to spend as little as possible on stuff. kipohippo021TV does not make your life easier...it is a want...same as nose If the nose makes him feel 'good' it could be argued that it is less wasteful than a TV that does nothing but waste time You are trying top assign your view of what is 'valuable' to the TC ...that seems pretty high and mighty to me...it is all about what is valuable to him, not you We all waste...it is not for you to judge someone else's wastefulness until you no longer waste money yourself again, self image is in the mind. You can overcome it. You dont need to spend money on it, its the cowards way out. see my next post
The problem with sending the money to africa is that most africans aren't christian. I don't believe it is necessary to give them food to survive longer when I already know where they'll end up in the end. Just my honest opinion, sorry if it offends anyone.The_OT_ManOh good lord, this utterance which hath drippeth from your keyboard is quite preposterous.
4k is pretty cheap for something that could make you happy.KiIIyoui think plastic surgery would cost more than 4k.
[QUOTE="The_OT_Man"]The problem with sending the money to africa is that most africans aren't christian. I don't believe it is necessary to give them food to survive longer when I already know where they'll end up in the end. Just my honest opinion, sorry if it offends anyone.ChiSoxBombersOh good lord, this utterance which hath drippeth from your keyboard is quite preposterous.
Man, I siged this but it's not coming up.
[QUOTE="kipohippo021"] when the real problem is in the mind. If you think its a big enough deal, then get therapy.rawsavonDo you have a degree in psychology :? Because some people really do have one ***ed up feature, and fixing that changes their whole outlook on life. (yes, some people do have body image issues...but that is not for you to say as someone without the credentials to do so) I have pectus exarvatium, look that up. Thats alot more than a big nose and im not complaining. If i can overcome that, than anyone can overcome a big nose.
I don't even know how doctors do nose jobs or w/e all I know is that it would cost me around $4,000 . I have a HUGE nose... like... I have a decent enough face but the nose just completely ruins it. Has anyone ever gotten plastic surgery? Was it worth it? All of the people I know say that I need one when I asked =(The_OT_ManWhen it comes to nose i think its more about attitude, thing of Owen Wilson Not the prettiest nose, but the guy "wears" it so proudly that makes me wanna have one like it.
[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="kipohippo021"] when the real problem is in the mind. If you think its a big enough deal, then get therapy.kipohippo021Do you have a degree in psychology :? Because some people really do have one ***ed up feature, and fixing that changes their whole outlook on life. (yes, some people do have body image issues...but that is not for you to say as someone without the credentials to do so) I have pectus exarvatium, look that up. Thats alot more than a big nose and im not complaining. If i can overcome that, than anyone can overcome a big nose. You did not answer my question...you are trying to make a psychological evaluation without: 1. having the qualifications to do so 2. knowing the TC
[QUOTE="TheGrayEye"][QUOTE="kipohippo021"] but plastic surgery is not a cheap thing. Its also not something that will keep you busy or entertained, you can change your need for a new nose. You just have to be at peace with your body (nose). A tv will always solve your boredom. kipohippo021
Wow, you have to be joking. So you're saying getting a tv more is worth more because you can sit on your ass inside your house all day long and watch it, as opposed to getting something done that won't make people look at you funny, or talk behind your back anymore, as well as give you a masive boost in confidence so that you can go out and live life to the fullest?
You have no argument.
but your self consious image of yourself is in the mind. I can be ugly as hell and win ugliest man of the year, if i think im handsome. Then whats the problem? Its in the mind, and you shouldnt pay 4000 to get your nose fixed, when the real problem is in the mind. If you think its a big enough deal, then get therapy.I disagree, it won't just be in your mind anymore when you literally hear girls talking about it behind your very back. Not to mention, if you ever want a job that involves lots of publicity and attention, it'll be hellish with all jokes people will make and such. I don't see why $4000 isn't worth it in that case, if you wanted to just avoid all that, and be accepted, which is something most people want (or even strive for).
It could be the best $4000 you've ever spent.
oh,lol at the new findings on TC's identity!sounds like we and our OT man gonna be separated sometime soon.
[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] Do you have a degree in psychology :? Because some people really do have one ***ed up feature, and fixing that changes their whole outlook on life. (yes, some people do have body image issues...but that is not for you to say as someone without the credentials to do so)rawsavonI have pectus exarvatium, look that up. Thats alot more than a big nose and im not complaining. If i can overcome that, than anyone can overcome a big nose. You did not answer my question...you are trying to make a psychological evaluation without: 1. having the qualifications to do so 2. knowing the TC If tc has physcological problems, his nose is the least of his worries. counseling would be cheaper than plastic surgery, and would cure tc of his phyc problems forever. A nose could be a one time thing, then it could be the jaw, or ears or something.
[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="TheGrayEye"]
Wow, you have to be joking. So you're saying getting a tv more is worth more because you can sit on your ass inside your house all day long and watch it, as opposed to getting something done that won't make people look at you funny, or talk behind your back anymore, as well as give you a masive boost in confidence so that you can go out and live life to the fullest?
You have no argument.
but your self consious image of yourself is in the mind. I can be ugly as hell and win ugliest man of the year, if i think im handsome. Then whats the problem? Its in the mind, and you shouldnt pay 4000 to get your nose fixed, when the real problem is in the mind. If you think its a big enough deal, then get therapy.I disagree, it won't just be in your mind anymore when you literally hear girls talking about it behind your very back. Not to mention, if you ever want a job that involves lots of publicity and attention, it'll be hellish with all jokes people will make and such. I don't see why $4000 isn't worth it in that case, if you wanted to just avoid all that, and be accepted, which is something most people want (or even strive for).
It could be the best $4000 you've ever spent.
Im gonna have to ask you to look up pectus exarvatium, if i can overcome that without worrying about my body, tc can as well. If tc has phycological problems, than he should be getting therapy instead of a new nose.[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]The_OT_Man
I don't know, you are a pretty creepy member, there was that post that you made in that thread about slow dancing, the one where you said you would be with that kid, by his side when things are hard, yeah, kind of creepy. Somehow I get this feeling that you got banned for a reason and that you haven't learned your lesson, you're also REALLY bad at covering up your lies.
[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="kipohippo021"] I have pectus exarvatium, look that up. Thats alot more than a big nose and im not complaining. If i can overcome that, than anyone can overcome a big nose.kipohippo021You did not answer my question...you are trying to make a psychological evaluation without: 1. having the qualifications to do so 2. knowing the TC If tc has physcological problems, his nose is the least of his worries. counseling would be cheaper than plastic surgery, and would cure tc of his phyc problems forever. A nose could be a one time thing, then it could be the jaw, or ears or something. But you don't know that he does have body issues b/c (like I said) 1. you lack the qualifications to say that 2. you don't know him ...it could be a one-time fix You are trying to assign your own, unqualified diagnosis to someone you do not know...I fail to see how you think that seems logical :?
[QUOTE="kipohippo021"] Im gonna have to ask you to look up pectus exarvatium, if i can overcome that without worrying about my body, tc can as well. If tc has phycological problems, than he should be getting therapy instead of a new nose.kamikaze_pigmylol@thinkingTCisnotatroll. replace "tc" with any other person, the statment still stands. Im aware tc is a troll, there has been more than enough evidence.
[QUOTE="kipohippo021"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] You did not answer my question...you are trying to make a psychological evaluation without: 1. having the qualifications to do so 2. knowing the TCrawsavonIf tc has physcological problems, his nose is the least of his worries. counseling would be cheaper than plastic surgery, and would cure tc of his phyc problems forever. A nose could be a one time thing, then it could be the jaw, or ears or something. But you don't know that he does have body issues b/c (like I said) 1. you lack the qualifications to say that 2. you don't know him ...it could be a one-time fix You are trying to assign your own, unqualified diagnosis to someone you do not know...I fail to see how you think that seems logical :? i do have qualifications, i have first hand experience with an abdnormal body deformity. And counseling is still the cheaper and more effective option.
[QUOTE="The_OT_Man"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]metroidprime55
I don't know, you are a pretty creepy member, there was that post that you made in that thread about slow dancing, the one where you said you would be with that kid, by his side when things are hard, yeah, kind of creepy. Somehow I get this feeling that you got banned for a reason and that you haven't learned your lesson, you're also REALLY bad at covering up your lies.
I thought it would be a kind gesture to show my support for that kid. He obviously seemed down. The moderators can feel free to check my IP address and the logs. I have lurked these boards for a long time, but I finally decided to make an account after taking a break from "The Misc". Do I need to post my picture with a sign saying "OT"?[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="kipohippo021"] If tc has physcological problems, his nose is the least of his worries. counseling would be cheaper than plastic surgery, and would cure tc of his phyc problems forever. A nose could be a one time thing, then it could be the jaw, or ears or something.kipohippo021But you don't know that he does have body issues b/c (like I said) 1. you lack the qualifications to say that 2. you don't know him ...it could be a one-time fix You are trying to assign your own, unqualified diagnosis to someone you do not know...I fail to see how you think that seems logical :? i do have qualifications, i have first hand experience with an abdnormal body deformity. And counseling is still the cheaper and more effective option. That does not make you an expert :lol: ...that is like saying b/c you survived cancer you are qualified to treat it...come on now
[QUOTE="kipohippo021"] Im gonna have to ask you to look up pectus exarvatium, rawsavonThat is nothing compared to something ****ed up on your face...I hope you can agree about that did you look it up? Because i can tell you, it really used to hold me back. Till one day i just said "**** it". People should like me for my personality, not my chest (or in tc's imaginary case, his nose)
[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="kipohippo021"] Im gonna have to ask you to look up pectus exarvatium, kipohippo021That is nothing compared to something ****ed up on your face...I hope you can agree about that did you look it up? Because i can tell you, it really used to hold me back. Till one day i just said "**** it". People should like me for my personality, not my chest (or in tc's imaginary case, his nose) Yes, I looked it up...not the same thing as something on your face Besides, the whole point is that you are assigning your own vales to TC when you are not qualified to do so
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