This comic is surreal and should be a WAKE-UP call to most OT'ers (girls)

never take girl advice from a comic wii60_3

I agree with that comic...if people just don't see the point in it. Then you are lying to yourself....The moral is....Stop being a ***** MgamerBD

It makes sense to not be really shy and submissive, and to have confidence in yourself and what you believe in, but the comic's solution is by no means the correct answer. I gauruntee that if you follow this comic's advice you will not have a meaningful relationship with any women, because while they may want someone who can stick up for themselves, they also want someone who cares about them.

Sadly, being a cold heartless **** doesn't seem to work either. The last girl interested in me thought I didn't give her enough affection, so... she goes to someone who sounds very similar to the one in the comic. (the shy guy) = / one of the last things she said to me, was that she's used to me not caring about anything she does. :PBaconbits2004

Are you telling me that women are different, and that they don't all want the same thing in a man?

Oh my god, my world has been shattered! Are you telling me that women are people, and not just stereotypes?

Again, the woman in the comic just plain doesn't like nerds, and is being a total ***** about it. It's not his problem, it's hers.

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]I agree with that comic...if people just don't see the point in it. Then you are lying to yourself....The moral is....Stop being a ***** Mousetaches

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]I agree with that comic...if people just don't see the point in it. Then you are lying to yourself....The moral is....Stop being a ***** Mousetaches

It makes sense to not be really shy and submissive, and to have confidence in yourself and what you believe in, but the comic's solution is by no means the correct answer. I gauruntee that if you follow this comic's advice you will not have a meaningful relationship with any women, because while they may want someone who can stick up for themselves, they also want someone who cares about them.

[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]Sadly, being a cold heartless **** doesn't seem to work either. The last girl interested in me thought I didn't give her enough affection, so... she goes to someone who sounds very similar to the one in the comic. (the shy guy) = / one of the last things she said to me, was that she's used to me not caring about anything she does. :PMrGeezer

Are you telling me that women are different, and that they don't all want the same thing in a man?

Oh my god, my world has been shattered! Are you telling me that women are people, and not just stereotypes?

Again, the woman in the comic just plain doesn't like nerds, and is being a total ***** about it. It's not his problem, it's hers.

[QUOTE="Mousetaches"]

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]I agree with that comic...if people just don't see the point in it. Then you are lying to yourself....The moral is....Stop being a ***** MgamerBD

It makes sense to not be really shy and submissive, and to have confidence in yourself and what you believe in, but the comic's solution is by no means the correct answer. I gauruntee that if you follow this comic's advice you will not have a meaningful relationship with any women, because while they may want someone who can stick up for themselves, they also want someone who cares about them.

And those things are completely ****ing subjective.

You seem to be ignoring that people are different. One woman's idea of fun and impulsiveness might be buying a new videogame or spending 6 hours researching the history of hamburgers.

"Acting like yourself"? People are different. Being the nice loner type doesn't mean that the guy is just pretending to be like that. For many people, that's who they are. What, are they supposed to act like YOU, or something? If it's okay for YOU to act like yourself and let things happen as they will, then where do you get the idea that the nice quiet type should STOP being who they are in order to bag a woman?

Women aren't the same, men aren't the same. There's no one way that either should act. Women want different things in a man, and for different men, "being yourself" means vastly different things.

TheCSPeaceMaker

The fact is the comic assumes much. Not every nerd is boring and timid, not every girl wants an 'exciting guy'. These are norms set by the general tone of society, not absolute truth. Treating it as such would be both arrogant and shortsighted.

Women aren't the same, men aren't the same. There's no one way that either should act. Women want different things in a man, and for different men, "being yourself" means vastly different things.MrGeezer

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="Mousetaches"] This comic is saying that rather than being shy and submissive, be a huge d-nozzle.

It makes sense to not be really shy and submissive, and to have confidence in yourself and what you believe in, but the comic's solution is by no means the correct answer. I gauruntee that if you follow this comic's advice you will not have a meaningful relationship with any women, because while they may want someone who can stick up for themselves, they also want someone who cares about them.

MrGeezer

And those things are completely ****ing subjective.

You seem to be ignoring that people are different. One woman's idea of fun and impulsiveness might be buying a new videogame or spending 6 hours researching the history of hamburgers.

"Acting like yourself"? People are different. Being the nice loner type doesn't mean that the guy is just pretending to be like that. For many people, that's who they are. What, are they supposed to act like YOU, or something? If it's okay for YOU to act like yourself and let things happen as they will, then where do you get the idea that the nice quiet type should STOP being who they are in order to bag a woman?

Women aren't the same, men aren't the same. There's no one way that either should act. Women want different things in a man, and for different men, "being yourself" means vastly different things.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]Women aren't the same, men aren't the same. There's no one way that either should act. Women want different things in a man, and for different men, "being yourself" means vastly different things.Baconbits2004

I've never quite understood how one can tell someone to "be yourself" and then in the same breath tell them to do something that they don't currently want to do. How are those two suggestions not mutually exclusive?

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"] No not really. This is what alot of introverts(much like myself) don't understand. You don't have to be a doche at all. You just have to be fun,take chances, be a person who likes to enjoy life. Talk to a girl, stop being that one guy that supports everything she do. My girl told me she likes me because "I act like myself, and don't try to act like anybody else. I'm not too sweet but I'm not a douche" She likes me because I tell her like it is. Like when she looks bad I tell her why and try to help her out. Yet I still tell her things like "she is beautiful" and "I love her". The greatest thing that she said stood out from me was that I rejected her hug. Beleive or not that was big for her, she thought of me as different ever since then. Its weirdbut the moral is don't be that nice guy everytime. Mix it up, be fun, witty, smart mouthed have fun. You only got one life to live. And when you finally got her, Tell her she is pretty, be nice and never change.MgamerBD

And those things are completely ****ing subjective.

You seem to be ignoring that people are different. One woman's idea of fun and impulsiveness might be buying a new videogame or spending 6 hours researching the history of hamburgers.

"Acting like yourself"? People are different. Being the nice loner type doesn't mean that the guy is just pretending to be like that. For many people, that's who they are. What, are they supposed to act like YOU, or something? If it's okay for YOU to act like yourself and let things happen as they will, then where do you get the idea that the nice quiet type should STOP being who they are in order to bag a woman?

Women aren't the same, men aren't the same. There's no one way that either should act. Women want different things in a man, and for different men, "being yourself" means vastly different things.

Damn.Clearly hes in love with thewrong person.

[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]Women aren't the same, men aren't the same. There's no one way that either should act. Women want different things in a man, and for different men, "being yourself" means vastly different things.GabuEx

I've never quite understood how one can tell someone to "be yourself" and then in the same breath tell them to do something that they don't currently want to do. How are those two suggestions not mutually exclusive?

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"] I think what he's trying to say, is that you should stop trying to see yourself through someone elses eyes. If you worry too much about what someone else thinks, then you won't ever be yourself. Baconbits2004

I've never quite understood how one can tell someone to "be yourself" and then in the same breath tell them to do something that they don't currently want to do. How are those two suggestions not mutually exclusive?

One can't be themselves if they see themselves through someone elses eyes. Because if you do that, then you're being the person you think they want you to be. Simple example: I swear sometimes. But i don't around my mom, why? because she doesn't like to see me swear. So I act like the person she wants to see. Baconbits2004

That's not what I was saying. I'm talking about people who say things like, "You need to be yourself," and then follow that up with statements like, "You need to stop being so shy. You need to be more assertive. You need to stop spending so much time on the internet," and so on, and so on. It's like, they're saying you need to be yourself, and then they're saying you need to be the antithesis of who you are. It's always seemed a bit strange to me. I don't have a girlfriend, and I don't have that many friends, but from the times I've been dragged to the bar by co-workers, I also know that what I would need to do to get more friends or get a girlfriend is neither me nor something I would particularly want to do.

Sarah is such an American.

[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]One can't be themselves if they see themselves through someone elses eyes. Because if you do that, then you're being the person you think they want you to be. Simple example: I swear sometimes. But i don't around my mom, why? because she doesn't like to see me swear. So I act like the person she wants to see. GabuEx

That's not what I was saying. I'm talking about people who say things like, "You need to be yourself," and then follow that up with statements like, "You need to stop being so shy. You need to be more assertive. You need to stop spending so much time on the internet," and so on, and so on. It's like, they're saying you need to be yourself, and then they're saying you need to be the antithesis of who you are. It's always seemed a bit strange to me. I don't have a girlfriend, and I don't have that many friends, but from the times I've been dragged to the bar by co-workers, I also know that what I would need to do to get more friends or get a girlfriend is neither me nor something I would particularly want to do.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"] I think what he's trying to say, is that you should stop trying to see yourself through someone elses eyes. If you worry too much about what someone else thinks, then you won't ever be yourself. Baconbits2004

I've never quite understood how one can tell someone to "be yourself" and then in the same breath tell them to do something that they don't currently want to do. How are those two suggestions not mutually exclusive?

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]One can't be themselves if they see themselves through someone elses eyes. Because if you do that, then you're being the person you think they want you to be. Simple example: I swear sometimes. But i don't around my mom, why? because she doesn't like to see me swear. So I act like the person she wants to see. warownslife

That's not what I was saying. I'm talking about people who say things like, "You need to be yourself," and then follow that up with statements like, "You need to stop being so shy. You need to be more assertive. You need to stop spending so much time on the internet," and so on, and so on. It's like, they're saying you need to be yourself, and then they're saying you need to be the antithesis of who you are. It's always seemed a bit strange to me. I don't have a girlfriend, and I don't have that many friends, but from the times I've been dragged to the bar by co-workers, I also know that what I would need to do to get more friends or get a girlfriend is neither me nor something I would particularly want to do.

[QUOTE="warownslife"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

That's not what I was saying. I'm talking about people who say things like, "You need to be yourself," and then follow that up with statements like, "You need to stop being so shy. You need to be more assertive. You need to stop spending so much time on the internet," and so on, and so on. It's like, they're saying you need to be yourself, and then they're saying you need to be the antithesis of who you are. It's always seemed a bit strange to me. I don't have a girlfriend, and I don't have that many friends, but from the times I've been dragged to the bar by co-workers, I also know that what I would need to do to get more friends or get a girlfriend is neither me nor something I would particularly want to do.

McJugga

[QUOTE="warownslife"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

That's not what I was saying. I'm talking about people who say things like, "You need to be yourself," and then follow that up with statements like, "You need to stop being so shy. You need to be more assertive. You need to stop spending so much time on the internet," and so on, and so on. It's like, they're saying you need to be yourself, and then they're saying you need to be the antithesis of who you are. It's always seemed a bit strange to me. I don't have a girlfriend, and I don't have that many friends, but from the times I've been dragged to the bar by co-workers, I also know that what I would need to do to get more friends or get a girlfriend is neither me nor something I would particularly want to do.

McJugga

The guy in the comic was being himself.Dylan_11

[QUOTE="Dylan_11"]The guy in the comic was being himself.Baconbits2004

[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]One can't be themselves if they see themselves through someone elses eyes. Because if you do that, then you're being the person you think they want you to be. Simple example: I swear sometimes. But i don't around my mom, why? because she doesn't like to see me swear. So I act like the person she wants to see. GabuEx

That's not what I was saying. I'm talking about people who say things like, "You need to be yourself," and then follow that up with statements like, "You need to stop being so shy. You need to be more assertive. You need to stop spending so much time on the internet," and so on, and so on. It's like, they're saying you need to be yourself, and then they're saying you need to be the antithesis of who you are. It's always seemed a bit strange to me. I don't have a girlfriend, and I don't have that many friends, but from the times I've been dragged to the bar by co-workers, I also know that what I would need to do to get more friends or get a girlfriend is neither me nor something I would particularly want to do.

There we go: Dante2710

[QUOTE="Dylan_11"]The guy in the comic was being himself.Baconbits2004

But that's the thing: who "you" are encompasses, um, all of you, including the part that cares about what other people think of you. By not caring about that, you are acting as someone other than who you currently are. The statement you need to "be yourself" is fundamentally nonsensical; that is what everyone is doing right now.

[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]One can't be themselves if they see themselves through someone elses eyes. Because if you do that, then you're being the person you think they want you to be. Simple example: I swear sometimes. But i don't around my mom, why? because she doesn't like to see me swear. So I act like the person she wants to see. GabuEx

That's not what I was saying. I'm talking about people who say things like, "You need to be yourself," and then follow that up with statements like, "You need to stop being so shy. You need to be more assertive. You need to stop spending so much time on the internet," and so on, and so on. It's like, they're saying you need to be yourself, and then they're saying you need to be the antithesis of who you are. It's always seemed a bit strange to me. I don't have a girlfriend, and I don't have that many friends, but from the times I've been dragged to the bar by co-workers, I also know that what I would need to do to get more friends or get a girlfriend is neither me nor something I would particularly want to do.

There we go:Dante2710

Bravo.

Sarah is such an American.

IronBeaver

[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"][QUOTE="Dylan_11"]The guy in the comic was being himself.GabuEx

But that's the thing: who "you" are encompasses, um, all of you, including the part that cares about what other people think of you. By not caring about that, you are acting as someone other than who you currently are. The statement you need to "be yourself" is fundamentally nonsensical; that is what everyone is doing right now.

You do know that really hard for most right?warownslife

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]There we go:Dylan_11

Bravo.

Indeed.

In one sense you are correct. In another sense, one could see it as a person changing their appearance to mimic what others want to see, and denying their inner-self, along with their uniqueness. Baconbits2004

But everyone restrains themselves when they go out in public. It would be social suicide not to do so. So it doesn't work either to say that people should not do what others to see, either.

Fundamentally, the question that really matters is whether one is happy and content now and whether one believes that one will be happy and content in the future. If that is true, then one is in a good position; if that is not true, then one should consider changing things. This metric seems rather simpler than talk about "being oneself" or so forth. It gets to the point where one is practically being a conformist in one's attempts to try to hard to be a nonconformist.

I somewhat agree with the girl but she seems to imply nice smart guys are actually the ones that are just after sex. Hope that ***** gets knocked by a "bad boy" who ditches her. =\ munu9

That actually hit me harder than expected. I need to stop being so introverted...

[QUOTE="munu9"]I somewhat agree with the girl but she seems to imply nice smart guys are actually the ones that are just after sex. Hope that ***** gets knocked by a "bad boy" who ditches her. =\ ghoklebutter

There's nothing wrong with sincerely trying to be nice, I see lots of people go a long ways with that. But I think, (and I believe is the message to this comic if there is one) being really nice and caring simply doesn't cut it, or at least, doesn't necessarily put you above other people you may dub as jerks. Most girls will appreciate a nice guy, but there's a lot more to attraction than that.

[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]In one sense you are correct. In another sense, one could see it as a person changing their appearance to mimic what others want to see, and denying their inner-self, along with their uniqueness. GabuEx

But everyone restrains themselves when they go out in public. It would be social suicide not to do so. So it doesn't work either to say that people should not do what others to see, either.

Fundamentally, the question that really matters is whether one is happy and content now and whether one believes that one will be happy and content in the future. If that is true, then one is in a good position; if that is not true, then one should consider changing things. This metric seems rather simpler than talk about "being oneself" or so forth. It gets to the point where one is practically being a conformist in one's attempts to try to hard to be a nonconformist.

Sarah is kind of a *****. Excitement is different things to different people and usually when someone is bored it is as much that person's fault as anyone elses. It's not my job to entertain you sarah.

That actually hit me harder than expected. I need to stop being so introverted...

BPoole96

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="munu9"]I somewhat agree with the girl but she seems to imply nice smart guys are actually the ones that are just after sex. Hope that ***** gets knocked by a "bad boy" who ditches her. =\ _BlueDuck_

There's nothing wrong with sincerely trying to be nice, I see lots of people go a long ways with that. But I think, (and I believe is the message to this comic if there is one) being really nice and caring simply doesn't cut it, or at least, doesn't necessarily put you above other people you may dub as jerks. Most girls will appreciate a nice guy, but there's a lot more to attraction than that.

But that wasn't the comic. She flat-out ripped the guy apart for being a "nice guy", and basically stated that he's a loser for not acting like a jerk.

Of course merely being nice isn't enough. And as I said before, she could've freaking had the balls to just tell the guy that she wasn't interested in him romantically, rather than play that off as his problem for being nice when she previously had no problem thriving off of his niceness.