Thor will now be female in the comics

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#101 II_Seraphim_II
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This type of stuff is sort of idiotic. Its not that I have a problem with female heroes, it's just that Thor is religious figure with a definite sex, so it makes absolutely no sense to change that. It's not like Marvel created Thor, they just borrowed him. Someone said this is like making a comic about Jesus, but in actuality its like making a comic about Jesus where he is female....whats the point? These characters already have their well versed backgrounds and history. If you made Jesus female you would pretty much have to rewrite his history because...well, women were treated a lot differently back in the day...and if you're gonna do that, why not just create a completely new character?

If you wanna make Spidey a woman or Wolverine a woman....that's cool, since Marvel created the base character. But Thor existed long before Marvel existed, yes, I know this is Marvel's rendition of Thor, but this is a rendition of a previously existing character. I just feel like its one of those cheap goto twists. Its like if you are writing a book and it sucks and u say "hey why dont we have a twist where its all just a dream!?" same here. Its like Marvel sat down and said "yeah....im all out of ideas....so lets just make Thor female! That's risky, right!?"

Oh well, whatever, I could be good I guess.

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#102  Edited By dave123321
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@II_Seraphim_II: it would be like if Jesus lost his mojo and gave his crown of thrones to Beth. And then Beth Had Jesus powers while Jesus worked through some issues back home.

But also If Jesus gave his Jesus powers to a horse thing.

Because Jesus isn't being transformed. It's like if Robin took over for batman for a while.

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#103  Edited By uninspiredcup
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To be honest (as someone who primarily read DC comics) I might buy the digital version of this off the marvel website. Her design is pretty fucking cool looking imo and up until now (again as someone who never read much of marvel) never really given a shit about Thor. This seems like it could be good entry point.


So mission accomplished? It works.

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#104  Edited By Renevent42
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@uninspiredcup said:

To be honest (as someone who primarily read DC comics) I might buy the digital version of this off the marvel website. Her design is pretty fucking cool looking imo and up until now (again as someone who never read much of marvel) never really given a shit about Thor. This seems like it could be good entry point.

So mission accomplished? It works.

Well you would have to offset that by the number of people who would have normally bought Thor, but now won't because they don't like the change. No idea which group will be larger, but it's possible for this to backfire. Personally I don't read comics anymore so don't care, but I think it's a stupid change. I also think it's counterproductive...what this says to me it's female characters can't stand on their own in comics.

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#105 deactivated-5ed92e29dd85a
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Others may not care or may not like it, I find the idea interesting; but I am not big on super hero type comic books, in the future I may be.

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#106 uninspiredcup
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@Renevent42 said:
Personally I don't read comics anymore so don't care, but I think it's a stupid change. I also think it's counterproductive...what this says to me it's female characters can't stand on their own in comics.

I don't see how this is the case. It's a fully fledged concentrated effort to target the female demographic. Using "The view" to announce it was a great marketing move on Marvels apart. Even people against it, they re talking about it and drawing attention to it. For comic books in general, it draws peoples interest. From what I understand comics are not as widely read as they use to be. With the current popularity of the movies, it's seems like a perfect opportunity to drum up interest. Doing something as bold as this will (and has) drew attention back to comic books.

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#107  Edited By II_Seraphim_II
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@uninspiredcup said:

@Renevent42 said:
Personally I don't read comics anymore so don't care, but I think it's a stupid change. I also think it's counterproductive...what this says to me it's female characters can't stand on their own in comics.

I don't see how this is the case. It's a fully fledged concentrated effort to target the female demographic. Using "The view" to announce it was a great marketing move on Marvels apart. Even people against it, they re talking about it and drawing attention to it. For comic books in general, it draws peoples interest. From what I understand comics are not as widely read as they use to be. With the current popularity of the movies, it's seems like a perfect opportunity to drum up interest. Doing something as bold as this will (and has) drew attention back to comic books.

You know I gotta sort of agree with Renevent42. Rather than create their own brand new super heroine and build her from scratch, they are pretty much admitting that female heroes don't sell, so in order to get one to sell, you need to get a hero with an established fan base, and then just gender change them.

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#108  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@II_Seraphim_II said:
@uninspiredcup said:

@Renevent42 said:
Personally I don't read comics anymore so don't care, but I think it's a stupid change. I also think it's counterproductive...what this says to me it's female characters can't stand on their own in comics.

I don't see how this is the case. It's a fully fledged concentrated effort to target the female demographic. Using "The view" to announce it was a great marketing move on Marvels apart. Even people against it, they re talking about it and drawing attention to it. For comic books in general, it draws peoples interest. From what I understand comics are not as widely read as they use to be. With the current popularity of the movies, it's seems like a perfect opportunity to drum up interest. Doing something as bold as this will (and has) drew attention back to comic books.

You know I gotta sort of agree with Renevent42. Rather than create their own brand new super heroine and build her from scratch, they are pretty much admitting that female heroes don't sell, so in order to get one to sell, you need to get a hero with an established fan base, and then just gender change them.

Isn't this getting it's own origin story? Some bullshit with a hammer being passed over. Either way, it's working for marvel. Call it cheap, an insult to fans, it is currently working very well.

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#109  Edited By speedfreak48t5p
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@jasean79 said:

@foxhound_fox said:

Thor isn't exactly the kind of character that would make for an interesting female character. But whatever, I don't read much Marvel anyways.

You can say that again.

He actually followed your advice. :P