Those female creatures and interactions with them (ie girl advice thread)

Let me give you some backround. I go to a highschool of 95 people total. I'm a sophomore, the girl in question is a freshman. However, she's rediculously non-average, the reason I like her so much. Reads, doesn't like mainstream music etc. I really like her, and I can tell for certain that she really likes me. However, one of my best friends (a sophmore) is dating her and has been for about 5 months or so. He knows I like her too (we actually joke around about it quite abit, so I've managed to keep him in a good mood about the whole thing so far).

So the question is, what do I do? I guess my only option is wait however long it takes (1year +?) for them to break up, and then date her after that. How long after they break up should I try to go for her? There's a guy in her class that might try too, so I'm apt to go a little more quickly than is normal. I would take the whole "just date another girl" thing, but remember the lack of girls around my area. The wait is just driving me crazy. If he wasn't in the way we would already be dating...

Wow, I guess I've stooped to the lowest of the low. I can't help but feeling immature after re-reading that :P.

1. Dual friend (Yu-Gi-Oh, Games, Fight, Cordial discussion...)
2. Get Girl
3. ????
4. PROFIT

1. Dual friend (Yu-Gi-Oh, Games, Fight, Cordial discussion...)
2. Get Girl
3. ????
4. PROFIT

samuraiguns

Everyone knows that the one and only honorable way to battle for the heart of a girl's heart is through a Pokemon battle.

Remember, my highschool has 95 people. That's not per class, that's the entire school. And 1year + was probably an exageration. Would anybody really expect a highscool relationship to last 1 and a half years? It can but it's rare... I would move on but we're best friends now. That sound really immature but I'm not just going to abandon a really really good friend. I'd just like to take it to the next level when the oppertunity presents iteself. I almost talk to her more than he does...

Why do you like a girl who seems to act in a way to show she likes you, and yet has been dating someone else?

Don't you see she is trouble? She might (probably)do the same to you when you finally get her

As for a solution, eat their babies and wait for the next mating season

Why do you like a girl who seems to act in a way to show she likes you, and yet has been dating someone else?

Don't you see she is trouble? She might (probably) do the same to you when you finally get her

Adrianstalker

I'm going to guess this girl is a monkey... but you probably don't know what a monkey is. If you ever watch a monkey swinging from branch to branch you'll see that the monkey doesn't let go of one branch until it has a firm grip on another branch making sure it never falls.

This girl is a monkey, and her boyfriends are the branches. She's not going to dump her current BF until she's got another held onto. So if you really want this girl talk to her about dumping your friend if she doesn't love him as much as she loves you, and that you want to be her BF. But keep in mind you're just another branch and as soon as she find another one you're going to be "let go".

Why do you like a girl who seems to act in a way to show she likes you, and yet has been dating someone else?

Don't you see she is trouble? She might (probably)do the same to you when you finally get her

As for a solution, eat their babies and wait for the next mating season

Adrianstalker

She's still faithful to him. She's not going on dates with me or anything :P. And this isn't like an engaged relationship or even serious, long-term maintainbable relationship like is possible in college. It's a highschool relationship:o. Do you think she's just going to ingnore every other guy in the school when she doesn't have class with her boyfriend?

Well you sure as hell don't break them up. You lose a friend and then you lose the girl shortly after, is what always happens. You're basically plotting a timeline of how to screw over your friend. There might be a lack of girls in your area, but there's probably also a lack of good friends if you screw up your friendship and get branded as a backstabber for dating somebody he just ended a relationship with, or trying to get her while she's still dating him. She's not an object you're waiting for your turn with, and if anyone happens to see it like that, you're going to be blacklisted by the majority of girls who aren't hard to persuade (most of them). Just let it go. You'll be off in your own world pretty soon. you can move to a new city and meet dozens of girls every day if you really want to. you don't have to have HIS girl.XilePrincess

I fully understand that, that's why I don't plan on trying (I'm not like that anyway). Do you really think they might view it that way if I ask her to day a few days/ weeks after they break up by themselves though? What's the right timescale?

[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Well you sure as hell don't break them up. You lose a friend and then you lose the girl shortly after, is what always happens. You're basically plotting a timeline of how to screw over your friend. There might be a lack of girls in your area, but there's probably also a lack of good friends if you screw up your friendship and get branded as a backstabber for dating somebody he just ended a relationship with, or trying to get her while she's still dating him. She's not an object you're waiting for your turn with, and if anyone happens to see it like that, you're going to be blacklisted by the majority of girls who aren't hard to persuade (most of them). Just let it go. You'll be off in your own world pretty soon. you can move to a new city and meet dozens of girls every day if you really want to. you don't have to have HIS girl.seals44

I fully understand that, that's why I don't plan on trying (I'm not like that anyway). Do you really think they might view it that way if I ask her to day a few days/ weeks after they break up by themselves though? What's the right timescale?

Depends on your friend. If yo uare going to ask her out after they break up, you'll need to get his permission and respect his wishes. Its teh friend code.

I fully understand that, that's why I don't plan on trying (I'm not like that anyway). Do you really think they might view it that way if I ask her to day a few days/ weeks after they break up by themselves though? What's the right timescale?

seals44

Why do you like a girl who seems to act in a way to show she likes you, and yet has been dating someone else?

Don't you see she is trouble? She might (probably)do the same to you when you finally get her

As for a solution, eat their babies and wait for the next mating season

Adrianstalker

Yeah seriously someone who's doing that I couldn't trust to not do the same to me behind my back..

honestly, i think you should just forget about her. don't try to screw your friend over.

Challenge your friend to a duel. That's what I did. Too bad I got locked up, apparently dueling was outlawed.

[QUOTE="seals44"]

I fully understand that, that's why I don't plan on trying (I'm not like that anyway). Do you really think they might view it that way if I ask her to day a few days/ weeks after they break up by themselves though? What's the right timescale?

XilePrincess

I would definitely do that, but the only problem, like I said before, is that there is another guy kind of hitting on her. I would just be really pissed if he got into a relationship with her instead of me because he asked first. I understand what you guys are saying with the "monkey" thing, but I'm just looking at this as a personal growth experience. I realistically know it will never last beyond senior year, but I like her and would like to grow as an individual with her. It would be my first relationship, so...

Bro's before hoe's, man. For real.

I'm going to guess this girl is a monkey... but you probably don't know what a monkey is. If you ever watch a monkey swinging from branch to branch you'll see that the monkey doesn't let go of one branch until it has a firm grip on another branch making sure it never falls.

This girl is a monkey, and her boyfriends are the branches. She's not going to dump her current BF until she's got another held onto. So if you really want this girl talk to her about dumping your friend if she doesn't love him as much as she loves you, and that you want to be her BF. But keep in mind you're just another branch and as soon as she find another one you're going to be "let go".

jrhawk42

Thanks for summing up creatively. This exactly. This is the type of girl that isn't comfortable unless she has a boyfriend, i.e. doesn't feel to great about herself, and uses others to fill that void. And just so you know, you don't have to date someone from your school. Why don't you concentrate on school, and having good healthy relationships with people, rather than just girls? Plus, there are plenty of girls in the world that aren't into "mainstream" music, or really popular. I think you're making more of this girl that is really there.

[QUOTE="Adrianstalker"]

Why do you like a girl who seems to act in a way to show she likes you, and yet has been dating someone else?

Don't you see she is trouble? She might (probably)do the same to you when you finally get her

As for a solution, eat their babies and wait for the next mating season

ArmoredAshes

Yeah seriously someone who's doing that I couldn't trust to not do the same to me behind my back..

Again, she hasn't actually acted out on anything. I can just tell she likes me through body language etc etc

Bro's before hoe's, man. For real.

Miyomatic

If I let their relationship naturally take its course without interrupting, and only try to date her after they breakup, how is that acting negative towards him?

[QUOTE="Miyomatic"]

Bro's before hoe's, man. For real.

seals44

If I let their relationship naturally take its course without interrupting, and only try to date her after they breakup, how is that acting negative towards him?

Becuase you're counting on it, and patiently waiting for it to happen. I mean no offense to you, but if I was this girl, and I discovered you'd been sitting around waiting for my current relationship to fail just so you could have me, I wouldn't be too excited to date you.

[QUOTE="Miyomatic"]

Bro's before hoe's, man. For real.

seals44

If I let their relationship naturally take its course without interrupting, and only try to date her after they breakup, how is that acting negative towards him?

Because he's countign on the relationship to fail.

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[QUOTE="Miyomatic"]

Bro's before hoe's, man. For real.

NightEyes7

If I let their relationship naturally take its course without interrupting, and only try to date her after they breakup, how is that acting negative towards him?

Becuase you're counting on it, and patiently waiting for it to happen. I mean no offense to you, but if I was this girl, and I discovered you'd been sitting around waiting for my current relationship to fail just so you could have me, I wouldn't be too excited to date you.

Thanks for helping me see outside the box. I guess that does sound kind of cruel looking at it objectivly. Being the subjective human that I am though, I don't know if I could turn the oppertunity down if it presents itself.

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[QUOTE="Miyomatic"]

Bro's before hoe's, man. For real.

SgtKevali

If I let their relationship naturally take its course without interrupting, and only try to date her after they breakup, how is that acting negative towards him?

Because he's countign on the relationship to fail.

Great minds think alike. I just happen to type faster. :P

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[QUOTE="seals44"]

If I let their relationship naturally take its course without interrupting, and only try to date her after they breakup, how is that acting negative towards him?

seals44

Becuase you're counting on it, and patiently waiting for it to happen. I mean no offense to you, but if I was this girl, and I discovered you'd been sitting around waiting for my current relationship to fail just so you could have me, I wouldn't be too excited to date you.

Thanks for helping me see outside the box. I guess that does sound kind of cruel looking at it objectivly. Being the subjective human that I am though, I don't know if I could turn the oppertunity down if it presents itself.

Trust me, I have no room to talk there. I've screwed friends over in my past, but I will tell you one thing: it's never worked out for me, and I lost the friend in the process. I would try harder to look at things more objectively, becuase you are potentially hurting three people here, and I really don't think this girl is worth it. Like you said, how long do highschool relationships really last? Good luck though.

Sounds like it would be a good idea to wait it out and let their relationship play out naturally. If and when they break up, wait at least 3 weeks before asking her out, and ask your friend if it's alright to ask her out first. Too bad if the other guy asks her out first, but at least you didn't screw over your friend that way. Additionally, you don't know how long she would stay with the other guy if he were to ask her out first.

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[QUOTE="NightEyes7"]

Becuase you're counting on it, and patiently waiting for it to happen. I mean no offense to you, but if I was this girl, and I discovered you'd been sitting around waiting for my current relationship to fail just so you could have me, I wouldn't be too excited to date you.

NightEyes7

Thanks for helping me see outside the box. I guess that does sound kind of cruel looking at it objectivly. Being the subjective human that I am though, I don't know if I could turn the oppertunity down if it presents itself.

Trust me, I have no room to talk there. I've screwed friends over in my past, but I will tell you one thing: it's never worked out for me, and I lost the friend in the process. I would try harder to look at things more objectively, becuase you are potentially hurting three people here, and I really don't think this girl is worth it. Like you said, how long do highschool relationships really last? Good luck though.

I'll try to. If I only look at her as a friend now, and if in the future they do happen to break up but I give it plenty of time to settle, do you still see that as potentially negative?

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[QUOTE="seals44"]

Thanks for helping me see outside the box. I guess that does sound kind of cruel looking at it objectivly. Being the subjective human that I am though, I don't know if I could turn the oppertunity down if it presents itself.

seals44

Trust me, I have no room to talk there. I've screwed friends over in my past, but I will tell you one thing: it's never worked out for me, and I lost the friend in the process. I would try harder to look at things more objectively, becuase you are potentially hurting three people here, and I really don't think this girl is worth it. Like you said, how long do highschool relationships really last? Good luck though.

I'll try to. If I only look at her as a friend now, and if in the future they do happen to break up but I give it plenty of time to settle, do you still see that as potentially negative?

Only if you are still thinking this way. It's going to be hard to really just "look at her as a friend" when you clearly don't think that way. What about the nature of the break up as well? What if she cheated on him, or they broke up in a not so good way, and your friend despises her? Are you going to date her, despite his negative feelings towards their past relationship?

i dont know what a freshman is or sophmore (im in canada so dont really know), but im guessing your the sophmore correct? and if so, wait a little longer, and then ask your friend if hes ok with u dating her if they break up before you ask her out

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[QUOTE="NightEyes7"]

Trust me, I have no room to talk there. I've screwed friends over in my past, but I will tell you one thing: it's never worked out for me, and I lost the friend in the process. I would try harder to look at things more objectively, becuase you are potentially hurting three people here, and I really don't think this girl is worth it. Like you said, how long do highschool relationships really last? Good luck though.

NightEyes7

I'll try to. If I only look at her as a friend now, and if in the future they do happen to break up but I give it plenty of time to settle, do you still see that as potentially negative?

Only if you are still thinking this way. It's going to be hard to really just "look at her as a friend" when you clearly don't think that way. What about the nature of the break up as well? What if she cheated on him, or they broke up in a not so good way, and your friend despises her? Are you going to date her, despite his negative feelings towards their past relationship?

You really are helping me, thanks. If he despises her than I don't know. He is a really open minded person and doesn't really judge, so I guess he might be fine with it. As long as I'm happy I don't know if he cares. He may even see it as "hey, if you're willing to put your self through that" from his perspective. I can't bee 100% sure, but that's my guess.

[QUOTE="Miyomatic"]

Bro's before hoe's, man. For real.

seals44

If I let their relationship naturally take its course without interrupting, and only try to date her after they breakup, how is that acting negative towards him?

Trust me, been there done that. Things don't always go according to plan. I understand you have good intentions, but your best bet is to find another girl for now, or stay single and ball it up. I'd go with the later, seeing how you have your whole life ahead of you.

lol This is the worst advice ever. Probably shouldn't come here for girl advice. :P

lol This is the worst advice ever. Probably shouldn't come here for girl advice. :P

brightshadow525

If this is bad advice than what would you advise?

Forget about her. Just stay in the friend zone.ghoklebutter

I'm going to guess this girl is a monkey... but you probably don't know what a monkey is. If you ever watch a monkey swinging from branch to branch you'll see that the monkey doesn't let go of one branch until it has a firm grip on another branch making sure it never falls.

This girl is a monkey, and her boyfriends are the branches. She's not going to dump her current BF until she's got another held onto. So if you really want this girl talk to her about dumping your friend if she doesn't love him as much as she loves you, and that you want to be her BF. But keep in mind you're just another branch and as soon as she find another one you're going to be "let go".

jrhawk42

I've had some good insights from this topic so far. Anyone else? How do I go about it if they break up? Do I try to talk to her more than normal immediatly after? Say "I'm here if you need anyone to talk to" and leave her alone? What would be best?

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]Forget about her. Just stay in the friend zone.gamebreakerz__

You can't do anything for the sake of your friend. If you make a move you will loose the friend most likely and may not get the girl even. This is high school as well so it's not like it's going to last.