To All Hillary Supporters Out There. Please don't vote for her. Vote Obama (56k)

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#151 Cerussite
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How would this convince people not to vote for Clinton?
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#152 Cerussite
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[QUOTE="Napster06"]Obama it is man!_Dispair_

yep!

I can't wait to laugh at you when McCain wins :D

Obama's inexperience will ruin this country.

McCain's inexperience will ruin this country, as well.

Just because he's old doesn't mean he's experienced, just more likely to die in office.

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#153 C_BozkurT_C
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John McCain FTW
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#154 OODALOOP
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Obama's inexperience will ruin this country._Dispair_
It's not just his inexperience. We've had great leaders who had little experience and terrible leaders with considerable experience. The problem with Obama is that he's a demagogue. He appeals more to emotional voters, than rational ones. In reality, he's vague, often votes "present" in the Senate to avoid taking sides on an issue, and yet still manages to have the most liberal voting record in the entire Senate for the year of 2007. Many 'casuals' and youthful voters will find his charisma, optimism, and eloquence inspiring, enough so to vote for him. But unfortunately, the direction he wants to take the nation is even further left than his voting record. He's also blissfully ignorant regarding Iraq. But, that's par for the course in the Democrat party, excluding Sen. Lieberman. He'll make a challenging opponent for McCain, if he wins the Democrat nomination, but not because he's better suited to lead the nation or assume the position of commander in chief of the armed forces.
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#155 _Dispair_
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[QUOTE="_Dispair_"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="Napster06"]Obama it is man!Cerussite

yep!

I can't wait to laugh at you when McCain wins :D

Obama's inexperience will ruin this country.

McCain's inexperience will ruin this country, as well.

Just because he's old doesn't mean he's experienced, just more likely to die in office.

Eh, are you saying Obama has more experience than McCain? No candidate is perfect, it's just that McCain is the best choice (imo).

Hopefully there is a hired dietitian for McCain to prolong his lifespan if he makes it in.

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#156 OODALOOP
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I wouldn't be too worried about McCain's health. His mother is healthy and active, and follows him on his campaign.
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#157 Cerussite
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Eh, are you saying Obama has more experience than McCain? No candidate is perfect, it's just that McCain is the best choice (imo).

Hopefully there is a hired dietitian for McCain to prolong his lifespan if he makes it in.

_Dispair_

I'm not saying McCain is anymore experienced than Obama (or the other way around), I'm just saying he's equally as inexperienced. I disagree with a lot of his policies, and the age thing was just a joke.

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#158 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="Napster06"]Obama it is man!_Dispair_

yep!

I can't wait to laugh at you when McCain wins :D

Obama's inexperience will ruin this country.

McCain's policys will ruin this country.

You won't get to laugh at me because I will be in Canada by then, sorry.

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#159 22Toothpicks
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[QUOTE="Aidenfury19"][QUOTE="B05T0N"]

The only 'harm' will be the next four years. We'll have to wait til 2012, when the right Conservative comes in to rectify the country.

B05T0N

What you propose is neither patriotic or justifiable, kindly get out and rethink that.

Again, you have no right to throw me out. What I'm doing is correct, and likely what any intelligent Conservative is doing.



Just like good ol' George Dubya? Yep, having a terrible conservative president for eight years sure does make me want to vote another one in come 2012!!
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#160 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="B05T0N"][QUOTE="Aidenfury19"][QUOTE="B05T0N"]

The only 'harm' will be the next four years. We'll have to wait til 2012, when the right Conservative comes in to rectify the country.

22Toothpicks

What you propose is neither patriotic or justifiable, kindly get out and rethink that.

Again, you have no right to throw me out. What I'm doing is correct, and likely what any intelligent Conservative is doing.



Just like good ol' George Dubya? Yep, having a terrible conservative president for eight years sure does make me want to vote another one in come 2012!!

Agreed. Its time for change in Washington.

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[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"][QUOTE="B05T0N"][QUOTE="Aidenfury19"][QUOTE="B05T0N"]

The only 'harm' will be the next four years. We'll have to wait til 2012, when the right Conservative comes in to rectify the country.

Rikusaki

What you propose is neither patriotic or justifiable, kindly get out and rethink that.

Again, you have no right to throw me out. What I'm doing is correct, and likely what any intelligent Conservative is doing.



Just like good ol' George Dubya? Yep, having a terrible conservative president for eight years sure does make me want to vote another one in come 2012!!

Agreed. Its time for change in Washington.

Again, you cannot even legally vote. Stop acting like your opinion matters...

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#162 22Toothpicks
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[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"][QUOTE="B05T0N"][QUOTE="Aidenfury19"][QUOTE="B05T0N"]

The only 'harm' will be the next four years. We'll have to wait til 2012, when the right Conservative comes in to rectify the country.

Rikusaki

What you propose is neither patriotic or justifiable, kindly get out and rethink that.

Again, you have no right to throw me out. What I'm doing is correct, and likely what any intelligent Conservative is doing.



Just like good ol' George Dubya? Yep, having a terrible conservative president for eight years sure does make me want to vote another one in come 2012!!

Agreed. Its time for change in Washington.



It certianly is but Obama is not the right choice for making said change. As of now, no candidate is IMO.
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#163 Rikusaki
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Again, you cannot even legally vote. Stop acting like your opinion matters...

B05T0N

My opinion does matter. It doesn't matter if I can vote or not.

I do have a voice.

"It's not about who's up or down. Its about who matters. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek."

-Senator Barack Obama

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#164 B05T0N
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Great, brainwashed teens--the future of our nation...

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#165 Rikusaki
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Great, brainwashed teens--the future of our nation...

B05T0N

It is time for the young people to rise up and have a voice.

Yes we can,

Yes we can.

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#166 B05T0N
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[QUOTE="B05T0N"]

Great, brainwashed teens--the future of our nation...

Rikusaki

It is time for the young people to rise up and have a voice.

Yes we can,

Yes we can.

Pathetic is an understatement...

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#167 22Toothpicks
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="B05T0N"]

Great, brainwashed teens--the future of our nation...

B05T0N

It is time for the young people to rise up and have a voice.

Yes we can,

Yes we can.

Pathetic is an understatement...



I kind of agree. That Obama quote is laughable. It's jargen that is molded to sound like something meaningful...
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#168 B05T0N
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[QUOTE="B05T0N"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="B05T0N"]

Great, brainwashed teens--the future of our nation...

22Toothpicks

It is time for the young people to rise up and have a voice.

Yes we can,

Yes we can.

Pathetic is an understatement...



I kind of agree. That Obama quote is laughable. It's jargen that is molded to sound like something meaningful...


Kind of like his Hallmark speeches/
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#169 _Dispair_
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[QUOTE="B05T0N"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="B05T0N"]

Great, brainwashed teens--the future of our nation...

22Toothpicks

It is time for the young people to rise up and have a voice.

Yes we can,

Yes we can.

Pathetic is an understatement...



I kind of agree. That Obama quote is laughable. It's jargen that is molded to sound like something meaningful...

It's sad that mere oratory skills can win over so many ignorant people. It wouldn't be the first time (Hitler)

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#170 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="B05T0N"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="B05T0N"]

Great, brainwashed teens--the future of our nation...

22Toothpicks

It is time for the young people to rise up and have a voice.

Yes we can,

Yes we can.

Pathetic is an understatement...



I kind of agree. That Obama quote is laughable. It's jargen that is molded to sound like something meaningful...

OMG Fine! You guys can do what you want! A democrat is going to win anyways! McCain doesn't have a chance against the Clinton machine.

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#171 B05T0N
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[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"][QUOTE="B05T0N"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="B05T0N"]

Great, brainwashed teens--the future of our nation...

Rikusaki

It is time for the young people to rise up and have a voice.

Yes we can,

Yes we can.

Pathetic is an understatement...



I kind of agree. That Obama quote is laughable. It's jargen that is molded to sound like something meaningful...

OMG Fine! You guys can do what you want! A democrat is going to win anyways! McCain doesn't have a chance against the Clinton machine.

So essentially you're saying Obama won't be president...

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#172 22Toothpicks
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="22Toothpicks"][QUOTE="B05T0N"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="B05T0N"]

Great, brainwashed teens--the future of our nation...

B05T0N

It is time for the young people to rise up and have a voice.

Yes we can,

Yes we can.

Pathetic is an understatement...



I kind of agree. That Obama quote is laughable. It's jargen that is molded to sound like something meaningful...

OMG Fine! You guys can do what you want! A democrat is going to win anyways! McCain doesn't have a chance against the Clinton machine.

So essentially you're saying Obama won't be president...



....

Pwnt.
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#173 OODALOOP
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There are rational voters and emotional voters. Some make it apparent rather quickly which of these categories they fall under.
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#174 bman784
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[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"][QUOTE="B05T0N"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="B05T0N"]

Great, brainwashed teens--the future of our nation...

_Dispair_

It is time for the young people to rise up and have a voice.

Yes we can,

Yes we can.

Pathetic is an understatement...



I kind of agree. That Obama quote is laughable. It's jargen that is molded to sound like something meaningful...

It's sad that mere oratory skills can win over so many ignorant people. It wouldn't be the first time (Hitler)


It's bad enough comparing Obama to Hitler but are you honestly implying that all obama supporters are ignorant? Do you know how politics works?
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#175 Rikusaki
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So essentially you're saying Obama won't be president...

B05T0N

No, I am saying that no matter who wins on the democratic side, a democrat is gonna win.

BTW, Barack just pulled ahead in deligates again.

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#176 peaceful_anger
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Obama is all talk and no substance.

Like I have said in other theads, he lacks the much needed experience to take on a job such as President of the United States. To me, it just seems like he was in the right place at the right time (2004 Democratic National Convention), and was named the new face of the democratic party to spread the word that he is going to bring the much needed change to America. And guess what, everybody is eatin it up like candy, especially the younger voters.

Seriously, all you ever hear from him is how he is going to bring change to the US and end the war in Iraq, but then never elaborates on how he is going to do either. So please Obama supporters, tell me his plans for how he is going to end the war in Iraq because I never seem to hear that part when he speaks. I bet you you can't. And his proof of his experiences in foreign policy was downright laughable. I mean if he thinks living in a foreign country when he was ten and younger gives him a better understanding of the foreign policy challenges facing the US, then God help us.

Right now I think we need a President that has experience and that is willing and able to take on the challenges that America faces now and in the future.
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#177 Rikusaki
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Update:DELIGATE COUNT(Not including Superdeligates)

Barack Obama: 861

Hillary Clinton: 855

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#178 bman784
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Obama is all talk and no substance.

Like I have said in other theads, he lacks the much needed experience to take on a job such as President of the United States. To me, it just seems like he was in the right place at the right time (2004 Democratic National Convention), and was named the new face of the democratic party to spread the word that he is going to bring the much needed change to America. And guess what, everybody is eatin it up like candy, especially the younger voters.

Seriously, all you ever hear from him is how he is going to bring change to the US and end the war in Iraq, but then never elaborates on how he is going to do either. So please Obama supporters, tell me his plans for how he is going to end the war in Iraq because I never seem to hear that part when he speaks. I bet you you can't. And his proof of his experiences in foreign policy was downright laughable. I mean if he thinks living in a foreign country when he was ten and younger gives him a better understanding of the foreign policy challenges facing the US, then God help us.

Right now I think we need a President that has experience and that is willing and able to take on the challenges that America faces now and in the future. peaceful_anger

It really isn't that difficult to do research into the man's positions. Listening to speeches is a poor way to get information about the logistics of his stances. He's using his rhetorical skill to gain support. That's what politics is all about.
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#179 B05T0N
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So essentially you're saying Obama won't be president...

Rikusaki

No, I am saying that no matter who wins on the democratic side, a democrat is gonna win.

BTW, Barack just pulled ahead in deligates again.

Considering McCain is a moderate, we're aware. So to get to the point, why are you, a 16 year old who cannot vote drawn to Obama? Is it because of his charismatic, Hallmark speeches? The young, flashy guy who promotes 'Change'? What?

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#180 _Dispair_
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[QUOTE="_Dispair_"][QUOTE="22Toothpicks"][QUOTE="B05T0N"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="B05T0N"]

Great, brainwashed teens--the future of our nation...

bman784

It is time for the young people to rise up and have a voice.

Yes we can,

Yes we can.

Pathetic is an understatement...



I kind of agree. That Obama quote is laughable. It's jargen that is molded to sound like something meaningful...

It's sad that mere oratory skills can win over so many ignorant people. It wouldn't be the first time (Hitler)


It's bad enough comparing Obama to Hitler but are you honestly implying that all obama supporters are ignorant? Do you know how politics works?

A lot of Obama supporters ARE ignorant. Didn't you know? It's actually trendy to like Obama, so many people have started supporting him without actually considering his policies.

And I didn't compare him to Hitler silly. I was merely using an example of how theatrical speeches can galvanise a large group of people who are desperate for change and/or ignorant of the actual situation.

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#181 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="B05T0N"]

So essentially you're saying Obama won't be president...

B05T0N

No, I am saying that no matter who wins on the democratic side, a democrat is gonna win.

BTW, Barack just pulled ahead in deligates again.

Considering McCain is a moderate, we're aware. So to get to the point, why are you, a 16 year old who cannot vote drawn to Obama? Is it because of his charismatic, Hallmark speeches? The young, flashy guy who promotes 'Change'? What?

His speeches are amazing, but its not all about the speeches. If you actually payed attention and watched all the debates, you will see why I like him.

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#182 B05T0N
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[QUOTE="B05T0N"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="B05T0N"]

So essentially you're saying Obama won't be president...

Rikusaki

No, I am saying that no matter who wins on the democratic side, a democrat is gonna win.

BTW, Barack just pulled ahead in deligates again.

Considering McCain is a moderate, we're aware. So to get to the point, why are you, a 16 year old who cannot vote drawn to Obama? Is it because of his charismatic, Hallmark speeches? The young, flashy guy who promotes 'Change'? What?

His speeches are amazing, but its not all about the speeches. If you actually payed attention and watched all the debates, you will see why I like him.

Please dont sidestep my question and tell me to watch the debates. I'm a Conservative. I have very little interest in the Democratic debates. I want to hear it from you.

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A lot of Obama supporters ARE ignorant. Didn't you know? It's actually trendy to like Obama, so many people have started supporting him without actually considering his policies.

And I didn't compare him to Hitler silly. I was merely using an example of how theatrical speeches can galvanise a large group of people who are desperate for change and/or ignorant of the actual situation.

_Dispair_

So anyone who disagrees with your elitist point of view is ignorant? Please. The mere fact that the guy has rhetorical skill is a testament to his worth as a politician. You fail to realize that he actually does have positions on issues, but the mere fact that he uses his oratorical skills makes him a "persuader of ignorant people".
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#184 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="B05T0N"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="B05T0N"]

So essentially you're saying Obama won't be president...

B05T0N

No, I am saying that no matter who wins on the democratic side, a democrat is gonna win.

BTW, Barack just pulled ahead in deligates again.

Considering McCain is a moderate, we're aware. So to get to the point, why are you, a 16 year old who cannot vote drawn to Obama? Is it because of his charismatic, Hallmark speeches? The young, flashy guy who promotes 'Change'? What?

His speeches are amazing, but its not all about the speeches. If you actually payed attention and watched all the debates, you will see why I like him.

Please dont sidestep my question and tell me to watch the debates. I'm a Conservative. I have very little interest in the Democratic debates. I want to hear it from you.

lol ok lol um.... lol!

he has a good foreign policy! he is not a warmonger! lol xD

he wants to raise taxes and streghthen our government!

he wants to regain out trust in our government. xD

he wants to move away form the politics of fear! lol!

he wants to give us all affordable heath care! lmao!

he wants to let the people have a voice! lol!

thats all i can name right now! rofl xD

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#185 _Dispair_
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[QUOTE="_Dispair_"]

A lot of Obama supporters ARE ignorant. Didn't you know? It's actually trendy to like Obama, so many people have started supporting him without actually considering his policies.

And I didn't compare him to Hitler silly. I was merely using an example of how theatrical speeches can galvanise a large group of people who are desperate for change and/or ignorant of the actual situation.

bman784


So anyone who disagrees with your elitist point of view is ignorant? Please. The mere fact that the guy has rhetorical skill is a testament to his worth as a politician. You fail to realize that he actually does have positions on issues, but the mere fact that he uses his oratorical skills makes him a "persuader of ignorant people".

Ahhh! I HATE it when people shove words into my mouth (bold). Either that or you're comprehension skills need work :wink:

Not all Obama supporters are ignorant, a lot actually pay attention to his policies (I acknoledge he has policies by the way) and agree with them, and that's fine. What angers me is when people just jump on the Obama "train" because it's trendy. They (young people in particular), see one of his charismatic speeches about "change" and ulimately decide he's the best president, without actually going further into his policies. THAT is ignorant, you can't argue about that.

So, I'm not actually targeting Obama himself, but his supporters that merely become sheep, following without knowing him or his policies at all.

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#186 bman784
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[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="_Dispair_"]

A lot of Obama supporters ARE ignorant. Didn't you know? It's actually trendy to like Obama, so many people have started supporting him without actually considering his policies.

And I didn't compare him to Hitler silly. I was merely using an example of how theatrical speeches can galvanise a large group of people who are desperate for change and/or ignorant of the actual situation.

_Dispair_


So anyone who disagrees with your elitist point of view is ignorant? Please. The mere fact that the guy has rhetorical skill is a testament to his worth as a politician. You fail to realize that he actually does have positions on issues, but the mere fact that he uses his oratorical skills makes him a "persuader of ignorant people".

Ahhh! I HATE it when people shove words into my mouth (bold). Either that or you're comprehension skills need work :wink:

Not all Obama supporters are ignorant, a lot actually pay attention to his policies (I acknoledge he has policies by the way) and agree with them, and that's fine. What angers me is when people just jump on the Obama "train" because it's trendy. They (young people in particular), see one of his charismatic speeches about "change" and ulimately decide he's the best president, without actually going further into his policies. THAT is ignorant, you can't argue about that.

So, I'm not actually targeting Obama himself, but his supporters that merely become sheep, following without knowing him or his policies at all.


My comprehension is just fine, thank you. Improve the clarity of your statements if you don't want them to be misconstrued. And it seems that somewhere along the line you missed the point of politics. The fact of the matter is that a large portion of the voting public doesn't pay attention to the issues. They just go off of word of mouth and the general appeal-ability of the candidates. That's the entire objective of campaigning. To sway the people that aren't necessarily involved in the politics so much as the appeal. The fact that Obama has appealed to that demographic says that he has been superior to the other candidates in that regard. All candidates have "sheep". Obama has just shown that he has the skill to draw more of them in.

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#187 _Dispair_
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[QUOTE="_Dispair_"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="_Dispair_"]

A lot of Obama supporters ARE ignorant. Didn't you know? It's actually trendy to like Obama, so many people have started supporting him without actually considering his policies.

And I didn't compare him to Hitler silly. I was merely using an example of how theatrical speeches can galvanise a large group of people who are desperate for change and/or ignorant of the actual situation.

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So anyone who disagrees with your elitist point of view is ignorant? Please. The mere fact that the guy has rhetorical skill is a testament to his worth as a politician. You fail to realize that he actually does have positions on issues, but the mere fact that he uses his oratorical skills makes him a "persuader of ignorant people".

Ahhh! I HATE it when people shove words into my mouth (bold). Either that or you're comprehension skills need work :wink:

Not all Obama supporters are ignorant, a lot actually pay attention to his policies (I acknoledge he has policies by the way) and agree with them, and that's fine. What angers me is when people just jump on the Obama "train" because it's trendy. They (young people in particular), see one of his charismatic speeches about "change" and ulimately decide he's the best president, without actually going further into his policies. THAT is ignorant, you can't argue about that.

So, I'm not actually targeting Obama himself, but his supporters that merely become sheep, following without knowing him or his policies at all.


My comprehension is just fine, thank you. Improve the clarity of your statements if you don't want them to be misconstrued. And it seems that somewhere along the line you missed the point of politics. The fact of the matter is that a large portion of the voting public doesn't pay attention to the issues. They just go off of word of mouth and the general appeal-ability of the candidates. That's the entire objective of campaigning. To sway the people that aren't necessarily involved in the politics so much as the appeal. The fact that Obama has appealed to that demographic says that he has been superior to the other candidates in that regard. All candidates have "sheep". Obama has just shown that he has the skill to draw more of them in.

Yes, I guess you're right. But the fact that a presidential candidate can become "trendy" upsets me, can't people form their own opinions? Why do they have to follow the political views of celebrities? Although, Obama isn't the only one to do that (the various endorsments, Chuck Norris, Oprah etc.).

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#188 -wii60-
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You don't tell me what to do..
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#189 Rikusaki
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You don't tell me what to do..-wii60-

lol ok. u can do wut u want. i was asking, it wasn't a command.

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#190 Aidenfury19
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So please Obama supporters, tell me his plans for how he is going to end the war in Iraq because I never seem to hear that part when he speaks. I bet you you can't.peaceful_anger

Phased redeployment of combat troops out of the region, diplomacy both with Iraq (public and private) and multi-lateral talks with the rest of the region.There is no good solution and I think mostly everyone has acknowledged that at this point, but there is such a thing as an acceptable solution and I think he has one.

Hes definitely worked to make the specifics of his policy a lot more, well..specific. I can't exactly recite his policy word for word off the top of my head but if you want to read more you know where you can get it.

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You don't tell me what to do..-wii60-

Rebellious teens...:lol:

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#192 theshadowhunter
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you cant even vote, why are you doing this? wait till next election till you start threads like this if you are only 16...

btw i dont support a president that wants a vietnam 2.0, and wants us to pull out ASAP, also a "free" healthcare system would not work, talk about a socialist idea (plus even more taxes, YAY), and you think higher taxes = better, wait till you have to pay them... you will say different.

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#193 B05T0N
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you cant even vote, why are you doing this? wait till next election till you start threads like this if you are only 16...

btw i dont support a president that wants a vietnam 2.0, and wants us to pull out ASAP, also a "free" healthcare system would not work, talk about a socialist idea (plus even more taxes, YAY), and you think higher taxes = better, wait till you have to pay them... you will say different.theshadowhunter

A+ for you!

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#194 greeneye59
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Now that's just plain creepy dude. Did you take these pictures yourself?

Can we say "stalker"? :shock:

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#195 nohabs
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Hillary VS Obama, two left wing socialists :lol:, you call that a choice. Be carefull of what you wish for.
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#196 AndYOU
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I vote Obama. First African-American president FTW!!!
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#197 greeneye59
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I vote Obama. First African-American president FTW!!!AndYOU

That's a great reason to vote for him. You've convinced me.

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#198 Vick_Devi
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Obama seriously freaks me out. Even if I were liberal, I wouldn't vote for him. I don't understand his appeal at all, as a person or otherwise.MAILER_DAEMON

I don't know about 'freaks me out,' but I don't see what's so great about him either~

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#199 Engrish_Major
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Hillary VS Obama, two left wing socialists :lol:, you call that a choice. Be carefull of what you wish for.nohabs

Nobody in the USA actually knows what socialism is. They think their left is socialist? Ever spent time researching politics in other countries?

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#200 LJS9502_basic
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He doesn't particularly impress....