Uganda Plans to Execute G@ys with new bill.

My sister is going over there in a about a month for missionary work.. :|00-Riddick-00

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Crimsader"]Yeah, invading another country is so much righter than leaving it be.Crimsader

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

oh i wasn't aware i was talking about your beloved America :P

defensive today aren't we?

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as a side note, i could say - just as you feel your country is somehow Superior to Uganda, so do i feel that my country is superior to the USA.

DroidPhysX

I wasn't born in America :?

im not sure what that has to do with anything :?

i said "your government"

you automatically assumed i was being negative towards America..

which makes it obvious that you live there and have positive feelings towards it. SO your birthplace doesn't really matter:|

Maybe as a Canadian i should go down to the USA and make an attempt at voting Obama? :roll: You're not Ugandan, you have no say about what their government does to help it's peoples.Nibroc420

So you think such a policy helps people? Being anti gay is one thing, wanting them to die is another, your opinion is very very obvious.

So basically... what Uganda are doing is wrong? This is very confusing...

[QUOTE="Crimsader"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] Human rights should be universal and defended voraciously. Does the entirety of the Ugandan population agree with this bill, or is this just the posturing of the select few at the top pushing their beliefs on everyone? Being from the West, we should be up in arms because of this. This violates everything people in our history have fought for.LJS9502_basic

i completely agree, if only idealistic people where to stand up against their government when they saw something wrong happen ;)

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

oh i wasn't aware i was talking about your beloved America :P

defensive today aren't we?

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as a side note, i could say - just as you feel your country is somehow Superior to Uganda, so do i feel that my country is superior to the USA.

Half-Way

I wasn't born in America :?

im not sure what that has to do with anything :?

i said "your government"

you automatically assumed i was being negative towards America..

which makes it obvious that you live there and have positive feelings towards it. SO your birthplace doesn't really matter:|

So basically... what Uganda are doing is wrong? This is very confusing...

thattotally

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I don't think a petition is going to influence Uganda.....Nibroc420

Slacktivism FTL

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Crimsader"] I agree, yet that's another country, with their government. The population has no voice in the case, since they have chosen their government. And again - intervening because of disagreeing is just as wrong as creating a law against the homosexual people. Half-Way

i completely agree, if only idealistic people where to stand up against their government when they saw something wrong happen ;)

[QUOTE="Crimsader"]Yeah, invading another country is so much righter than leaving it be.foxhound_fox

being from the west, we should probably practice what we preach first ;)

So basically... what Uganda are doing is wrong? This is very confusing...

thattotally

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

I wasn't born in America :?

DroidPhysX

im not sure what that has to do with anything :?

i said "your government"

you automatically assumed i was being negative towards America..

which makes it obvious that you live there and have positive feelings towards it. SO your birthplace doesn't really matter:|

eh ?

i didnt even make the comparison :? you should read my post, i never said America

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] But it does not affect us. We're not a part of their culture, and as such we have no "real" voice in Uganda.We're just randoms throughout the world who go "Hey, you shouldn't do that" What do they care?Nibroc420

Your going beyond countries rights, its pretty obvious you think gays should be killed and agree with the policy.

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]If people don't intervene then nothing is improved. I honestly don't understand the thinking that because they make a law...it's okay. It should not be okay.LJS9502_basic

i completely agree, if only idealistic people where to stand up against their government when they saw something wrong happen ;)

i like the emote

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Half-Way"]

im not sure what that has to do with anything :?

i said "your government"

you automatically assumed i was being negative towards America..

which makes it obvious that you live there and have positive feelings towards it. SO your birthplace doesn't really matter:|

Half-Way

eh ?

i didnt even make the comparison :? you should read my post, i never said America

[QUOTE="Harkat95"][QUOTE="Crimsader"] Their citizens have the right to leave the country any time they feel like not obeying the local law. And I don't think that there are many people who will suffer from this.Nibroc420

So basically... what Uganda are doing is wrong? This is very confusing...

thattotally

Do you find anything wrong with Nazi Germany's genocide of Jews? Because this is kind of the same thing. It's extremely unfair. What if a law was passed in your country that said that all heterosexual people are to be executed? I think you would find that really unfair as well.

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] I just said you don't see the comparison everyday. If you thought it was meant to be negative, its on you.DroidPhysX

eh ?

i didnt even make the comparison :? you should read my post, i never said America

sooo

you assumed i was talking about America

and i asumed you thought i was being negative?

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Half-Way"]

eh ?

i didnt even make the comparison :? you should read my post, i never said America

Half-Way

sooo

you assumed i was talking about America

and i asumed you thought i was being negative?

There are people here defending this? :? I'd like to see what happens when their country passes laws authorizing the execution of people in their ethnic group solely based on their inclusion in that group.Engrish_Major

i dont think there is anyone defending this. But i do think there are some who manage to keep an objective opinion on it. If its those your referring to.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]There are people here defending this? :? I'd like to see what happens when their country passes laws authorizing the execution of people in their ethnic group solely based on their inclusion in that group.Half-Way

i dont think there is anyone defending this. But i do think there are some who manage to keep an objective opinion on it. If its those your referring to.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]There are people here defending this? :? I'd like to see what happens when their country passes laws authorizing the execution of people in their ethnic group solely based on their inclusion in that group.Half-Way

i dont think there is anyone defending this. But i do think there are some who manage to keep an objective opinion on it. If its those your referring to.

That is an oxymoron.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]There are people here defending this? :? I'd like to see what happens when their country passes laws authorizing the execution of people in their ethnic group solely based on their inclusion in that group.Half-Way

i dont think there is anyone defending this. But i do think there are some who manage to keep an objective opinion on it. If its those your referring to.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Half-Way"]

eh ?

i didnt even make the comparison :? you should read my post, i never said America

Half-Way

sooo

you assumed i was talking about America

and i asumed you thought i was being negative?

So what country (or countries) were you talking about when you were talking about people defending their own "crazy governments"?

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]There are people here defending this? :? I'd like to see what happens when their country passes laws authorizing the execution of people in their ethnic group solely based on their inclusion in that group.Engrish_Major

i dont think there is anyone defending this. But i do think there are some who manage to keep an objective opinion on it. If its those your referring to.

*resists temptation to get into another objectivity .vs. subjectivity argument*

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] No, if you thought that i assumed you were being negative, thats on you.DroidPhysX

sooo

you assumed i was talking about America

and i asumed you thought i was being negative?

yeah thats it... sure was confusing.

but dont forget, you assumed something before i assumed something, so that makes me 0.1% ahead of you.

but we should probably stop assuming:|

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

i dont think there is anyone defending this. But i do think there are some who manage to keep an objective opinion on it. If its those your referring to.

GreySeal9

That is an oxymoron.

thats true,

even if we like to think there is something as an objective opinion

*resists temptation to get into another objectivity .vs. subjectivity argument*

GreySeal9

i know the difference, so take it easy

i should have used "trying" to keep an objective opinion

to avoid confusion

you cannot legislate the gay out of yourself, the republicans have been trying that for years and they are still getting caught having sex with other men at interstate rest areas.

it will fail there just like it did here.

http://www.ranker.com/list/top-10-anti-gay-activists-caught-being-gay/joanne

Threads like this allow posters who think like this to support such laws.

It allows bigots to express their consent, regardless of how discusting the law is.

I dont understand how some people in a sense are defending this legislation. Its not that we're saying all other countries laws should follow ours. Its just that this one essentially criminalizes certain sexual orientations and legalizes the murder of those who are slightly different than "the norm"

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] No, if you thought that i assumed you were being negative, thats on you.GreySeal9

sooo

you assumed i was talking about America

and i asumed you thought i was being negative?

So what country (or countries) were you talking about when you were talking about people defending their own "crazy governments"?

obviously every country with an superiority complex. Which are many. Especially in the west.

I suppose in some manner, yes...

thattotally

Still didn't answer my question. How is this right?

[QUOTE="ex-mortis"]

Do you find anything wrong with Nazi Germany's genocide of Jews? Because this is kind of the same thing. It's extremely unfair. What if a law was passed in your country that said that all heterosexual people are to be executed? I think you would find that really unfair as well.

thattotally

That's a silly thing to say. That won't ever happen. It doesn't even make any logical sense.

Neither does executing homosexual people for simply being homosexual. Tell me how that makes sense at all?

Threads like this allow posters who think like this to support such laws.

It allows bigots to express their consent, regardless of how discusting the law is.

tenaka2

threads like this also allow posters to criticize countries and governments who work in a similar manner

that's why i love it :P there should be more of them.

I thought it was rather obvious? Homosexuality is haram.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Threads like this allow posters who think like this to support such laws.

It allows bigots to express their consent, regardless of how discusting the law is.

Half-Way

threads like this also allow posters to criticize countries and governments who work in a similar manner

that's why i love it :P there should be more of them.

[QUOTE="thattotally"]

[QUOTE="ex-mortis"]

Do you find anything wrong with Nazi Germany's genocide of Jews? Because this is kind of the same thing. It's extremely unfair. What if a law was passed in your country that said that all heterosexual people are to be executed? I think you would find that really unfair as well.

ex-mortis

That's a silly thing to say. That won't ever happen. It doesn't even make any logical sense.

Neither does executing homosexual people for simply being homosexual. Tell me how that makes sense at all?

I would not bother threads such as this allow bigots to hide behind other countries laws to express themselves.

I thought it was rather obvious? Homosexuality is haram.

thattotally

[QUOTE="thattotally"]

I thought it was rather obvious? Homosexuality is haram.

DroidPhysX

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Threads like this allow posters who think like this to support such laws.

It allows bigots to express their consent, regardless of how discusting the law is.

DroidPhysX

threads like this also allow posters to criticize countries and governments who work in a similar manner

that's why i love it :P there should be more of them.

no this isnt about "doing the same"

its about doing something wrong.

I believe not giving people universal healthcare is wrong, i believe going to war is wrong, i believe torturing people is wrong.

Im sure many people believe this. But we simply accept it when our own government does it.

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thats why i used my example. If we want to follow some idealistic view, then please, at least practice what you preach. If we dont do that. Then i cant blame Uganda for doing something wrong.

Simply because Uganda is going something wrong in "our (the west's) opinion. Just like America for example, is doing something wrong in my opinion, and im pretty sure Norway's opinion aswell.

EDIT: i should probably mention that i only used america as an example because you live there, and you asked me the question.

And when i say "norways opinion" , i mean the majority of the people, not the government.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Half-Way"]

threads like this also allow posters to criticize countries and governments who work in a similar manner

that's why i love it :P there should be more of them.

Half-Way

no this isnt about "doing the same"

its about doing something wrong.

I believe not giving people universal healthcare is wrong, i believe going to war is wrong, i believe torturing people is wrong.

Im sure many people believe this. But we simply accept it when our own government does it.

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thats why i used my example. If we want to follow some idealistic view, then please, at least practice what you preach. If we dont do that. Then i cant blame Uganda for doing something wrong.

Simply because Uganda is going something wrong in "our (the west's) opinion. Just like America for example, is doing something wrong in my opinion, and im pretty sure Norway's opinion aswell.

War is not always wrong. Sometimes it's necessary.

Torture....well I'd have to see what you consider torture first.