US preparing for War with Iran

How the hell is this a secret operation when its blasted on Yahoo for everyone and their grandmother to see?omfg_its_dally

Was thinking about that myself. I really hate it when the media desides that they have to report anything they like, regardless of the danger they will be putting people into.

for those who say 9/11 was staged are complete idiots. Seriously, how can you believe that ? :|Tjeremiah1988

My brother does... sadly

the government-controlled media is putting news like that to make you afraid, to make you think about Iran and war and not to see what the government is doing right there in front of you: taking your money and time, and while you proclaim freedom you are actually a slave of the state, bought and sold in the market place, selling the precious minutes of you life on activities you despise, as a kid you are being brain washed to believe that you will become a movie-star or some other rich figure, but the statistics speak for themselves, the majority of the population are low class workers that are slaves of the rich, being in a constant state of escape, people use the little money they think they earn for mindless entertainment. the only way is to free your mind, by stopping being dependant on the corrupt system, to realize the truth, not believe it, but know it.foggy666

i take it youve seen the documentary zeitgeist? very interesting stuff. either way our gov't is screwing us. whether its our money. or starting a war. they are screwing us everyway that can manage to slim their way into our lives they will

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

[QUOTE="tccavey2"]Someone needs to go to war with Iran... those slimy ****ers need to be taught a lesson about hiding nuclear arms.AlternatingCaps

You say that, but you dont take into account the thousands that would suffer and die as a result. :?

Not many people seem to realise that Iran has a huge and well equipped army, not to mention a means of arming every single citizen. People who flippantly say "yeah let's invade Iran" must indeed think it's exactly like Iraq or Afghanistan. It aint, people. They have tanks. They have an air force. They have an army.

Of course they have a military. Much better than Iraq did back in '03. However, it's still based on old Soviet technology. Their tanks would be nothing compared to an M1A2. The US would gain air superiority (superior Western aviation, carriers). Plus, we have "superweapons" (to use RTS terms) like MOABs and the B2 bomber. Then we'd also have NATO allies with Eurofighter Typhoons, Leopard 2s, Challenger 2s, etc.

The best of the west vs. an army based around export versions of old Soviet stuff.

and we see how vietnam turned out then didnt we

the government-controlled media is putting news like that to make you afraid, to make you think about Iran and war and not to see what the government is doing right there in front of you: taking your money and time, and while you proclaim freedom you are actually a slave of the state, bought and sold in the market place, selling the precious minutes of you life on activities you despise, as a kid you are being brain washed to believe that you will become a movie-star or some other rich figure, but the statistics speak for themselves, the majority of the population are low class workers that are slaves of the rich, being in a constant state of escape, people use the little money they think they earn for mindless entertainment. the only way is to free your mind, by stopping being dependant on the corrupt system, to realize the truth, not believe it, but know it.foggy666

This was planned long ago, next is North Korea.X360PS3AMD05

Rather North Korea than Iran. Atleast the North Koreas would want us there, and the South Koreans have an extremely well trained military to assist the US.

[QUOTE="foggy666"]the government-controlled media is putting news like that to make you afraid, to make you think about Iran and war and not to see what the government is doing right there in front of you: taking your money and time, and while you proclaim freedom you are actually a slave of the state, bought and sold in the market place, selling the precious minutes of you life on activities you despise, as a kid you are being brain washed to believe that you will become a movie-star or some other rich figure, but the statistics speak for themselves, the majority of the population are low class workers that are slaves of the rich, being in a constant state of escape, people use the little money they think they earn for mindless entertainment. the only way is to free your mind, by stopping being dependant on the corrupt system, to realize the truth, not believe it, but know it.serjitup

[QUOTE="AlternatingCaps"]

Well, regardless of what I said earlier, even though we WOULD win, we don't need ourselves in another Iraq-esque situation after the conventional war, not to mention the cost in human lives to the Iranian people and the bad reputation the US would get.

God I hope Obama gets elected. We don't need another term of Bush-ish politics.

hokies1313

I really hope McCain wins, so that we can win this war and pull out soon, with dignity. Obama is just going to cut and run, just when violence in Iraq is going down.

No one is going to invade Iran. We've all learned our lesson.

Violence going down in Iraq? Maybe because it has been wiped out!

[QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="AlternatingCaps"]

Well, regardless of what I said earlier, even though we WOULD win, we don't need ourselves in another Iraq-esque situation after the conventional war, not to mention the cost in human lives to the Iranian people and the bad reputation the US would get.

God I hope Obama gets elected. We don't need another term of Bush-ish politics.

sun-son

I really hope McCain wins, so that we can win this war and pull out soon, with dignity. Obama is just going to cut and run, just when violence in Iraq is going down.

No one is going to invade Iran. We've all learned our lesson.

Violence going down in Iraq? Maybe because it has been wiped out!

Wow, what an uneducated post!

No, the violence is going down because people are fed up of the in fighting and a majority just want to move on.

This is what I have been saying all along. The US will go to war with Iran. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they just try to blow up the whole middle east. Iran is no cakewalk; they have a military, they have extremely difficult terrians to manage (terrain which would be foreign to us and they would be experienced with), and they can use Oil as a weapon as a previous poster said. No doubt they will block off the Strait of Hormuz and limit a lot of resources like oil.

Also, if anyone thinks that the other middle eastern countries will rush in to help the US take over Iran (I have seen this mentioned in many other threads), your wrong. Iraq and Iran were sworn enemies, yet you didn't see Iran invading Iraq when the US came did you? In fact, some people from Iran helped Iraq out. Other countries will do the same. They will look at the pattern here:

"Oh hey Afghanistan was attacked, thats cool"
"Oh now they're going to Iraq, k, at least its not us."
"Ok now they're going to Iran, its only a matter of time before they come to get us"

Thats one thing I am sure all the countries in the middle east are thinking.

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]This was planned long ago, next is North Korea.hokies1313

Rather North Korea than Iran. Atleast the North Koreas would want us there, and the South Koreans have an extremely well trained military to assist the US.

It would also mean that the 2 Koreas would be united again.

[QUOTE="hokies1313"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]This was planned long ago, next is North Korea.Lonelynight

Rather North Korea than Iran. Atleast the North Koreas would want us there, and the South Koreans have an extremely well trained military to assist the US.

It would also mean that the 2 Koreas would be united again.

Or the US would just occupy North Korea as well.

This is what I have been saying all along. The US will go to war with Iran. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they just try to blow up the whole middle east. Iran is no cakewalk; they have a military, they have extremely difficult terrians to manage (terrain which would be foreign to us and they would be experienced with), and they can use Oil as a weapon as a previous poster said. No doubt they will block off the Strait of Hormuz and limit a lot of resources like oil.

Also, if anyone thinks that the other middle eastern countries will rush in to help the US take over Iran (I have seen this mentioned in many other threads), your wrong. Iraq and Iran were sworn enemies, yet you didn't see Iran invading Iraq when the US came did you? In fact, some people from Iran helped Iraq out. Other countries will do the same. They will look at the pattern here:

"Oh hey Afghanistan was attacked, thats cool"
"Oh now they're going to Iraq, k, at least its not us."
"Ok now they're going to Iran, its only a matter of time before they come to get us"

Thats one thing I am sure all the countries in the middle east are thinking.

Kuhu

[QUOTE="sun-son"][QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="AlternatingCaps"]

Well, regardless of what I said earlier, even though we WOULD win, we don't need ourselves in another Iraq-esque situation after the conventional war, not to mention the cost in human lives to the Iranian people and the bad reputation the US would get.

God I hope Obama gets elected. We don't need another term of Bush-ish politics.

hokies1313

I really hope McCain wins, so that we can win this war and pull out soon, with dignity. Obama is just going to cut and run, just when violence in Iraq is going down.

No one is going to invade Iran. We've all learned our lesson.

Violence going down in Iraq? Maybe because it has been wiped out!

Wow, what an uneducated post!

No, the violence is going down because people are fed up of the in fighting and a majority just want to move on.

Yeah move on to another country. How can the people of Iraq live there anymore, most of there land and cities have been destroyed.

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="hokies1313"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]This was planned long ago, next is North Korea.Kuhu

Rather North Korea than Iran. Atleast the North Koreas would want us there, and the South Koreans have an extremely well trained military to assist the US.

It would also mean that the 2 Koreas would be united again.

Or the US would just occupy North Korea as well.

And I doubt that the U.S. would occupy NK for a long time.

[QUOTE="Kuhu"]

This is what I have been saying all along. The US will go to war with Iran. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they just try to blow up the whole middle east. Iran is no cakewalk; they have a military, they have extremely difficult terrians to manage (terrain which would be foreign to us and they would be experienced with), and they can use Oil as a weapon as a previous poster said. No doubt they will block off the Strait of Hormuz and limit a lot of resources like oil.

Also, if anyone thinks that the other middle eastern countries will rush in to help the US take over Iran (I have seen this mentioned in many other threads), your wrong. Iraq and Iran were sworn enemies, yet you didn't see Iran invading Iraq when the US came did you? In fact, some people from Iran helped Iraq out. Other countries will do the same. They will look at the pattern here:

"Oh hey Afghanistan was attacked, thats cool"
"Oh now they're going to Iraq, k, at least its not us."
"Ok now they're going to Iran, its only a matter of time before they come to get us"

Thats one thing I am sure all the countries in the middle east are thinking.

X360PS3AMD05

Of course. Also I don't think the US will be getting all the support that everyone else thinks it will (like from Europe)

Nah they cant go to war with Iran because that is financially impossible .Pessu

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="hokies1313"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]This was planned long ago, next is North Korea.Kuhu

Rather North Korea than Iran. Atleast the North Koreas would want us there, and the South Koreans have an extremely well trained military to assist the US.

It would also mean that the 2 Koreas would be united again.

Or the US would just occupy North Korea as well.

[QUOTE="Kuhu"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="hokies1313"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]This was planned long ago, next is North Korea.remmbermytitans

Rather North Korea than Iran. Atleast the North Koreas would want us there, and the South Koreans have an extremely well trained military to assist the US.

It would also mean that the 2 Koreas would be united again.

Or the US would just occupy North Korea as well.

Thats wishful thinking.

[QUOTE="remmbermytitans"][QUOTE="Kuhu"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="hokies1313"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]This was planned long ago, next is North Korea.Kuhu

Rather North Korea than Iran. Atleast the North Koreas would want us there, and the South Koreans have an extremely well trained military to assist the US.

It would also mean that the 2 Koreas would be united again.

Or the US would just occupy North Korea as well.

Thats wishful thinking.

[QUOTE="Kuhu"][QUOTE="remmbermytitans"][QUOTE="Kuhu"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="hokies1313"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]This was planned long ago, next is North Korea.remmbermytitans

Rather North Korea than Iran. Atleast the North Koreas would want us there, and the South Koreans have an extremely well trained military to assist the US.

It would also mean that the 2 Koreas would be united again.

Or the US would just occupy North Korea as well.

Thats wishful thinking.

Iran is where most of Al-Qaeda is hiding. As I said in my previous post, the middle eastern countries are choosing who they hate more, and they hate the US more then Al-Qaeda. Iran has no incent on nuking another country, but the US is provoking them. If Al-Qaeda co-operates with Iran and if they team up, it will be due to the threats coming from the US.

I would actually love for the US to invade Iran. Well, I'm also jewish so go figure. BTW, the Israeli military could wipe Iran out.CruxisXIII

[QUOTE="CruxisXIII"]I would actually love for the US to invade Iran. Well, I'm also jewish so go figure. BTW, the Israeli military could wipe Iran out.C_BozkurT_C

[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="CruxisXIII"]I would actually love for the US to invade Iran. Well, I'm also jewish so go figure. BTW, the Israeli military could wipe Iran out.CruxisXIII

[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="CruxisXIII"]I would actually love for the US to invade Iran. Well, I'm also jewish so go figure. BTW, the Israeli military could wipe Iran out.CruxisXIII

If history repeats itself? Its been repeating itself for quite some time. Each US presidential election that comes, Israel is like "Oh US help us we r so scaredz of teh middle east"

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]This was planned long ago, next is North Korea.hokies1313

Rather North Korea than Iran. Atleast the North Koreas would want us there, and the South Koreans have an extremely well trained military to assist the US.

You obviously know NOTHING about North Korea. Or South Korea for that matter. Hey remeber when we claimed Iraqis will "Hail us as liberators"? I do, and how did that turn out? North Koreans hail jim Jong Il as a living God, they worship him. They are brainwashed at birth, and live in a state where everything good thing is attributed to him, while the bad is forgotten. An invasion would kill millions of civilians as they would try everything to fight of troops, kind of like how the Japanese would have during WW2 in the event of an invasion, they worshipped their Emperor as an God too.

Quite frankly it's statements like "Atleast North koreans would want us there" that put us in 5+ year, drawn out, costly wars like Iraq. And if you think South Korea would support an invasion, you're dreaming. They want a unified Korea through Peace, not force. They feal a korea divided is a terrible thing, and give the second largest amount of aid to North Korea, next to the U.S., but they would shun killing of Koreans, because they are both Koreans. North and south.

a "significant escalation" of covert operations in Iran, sending U.S. commandos to spy on the country's nuclear facilities and undermine the Islamic republic's government, journalist Seymour Hersh said Sunday.

Yes, CNN, really covert.

[QUOTE="CruxisXIII"][QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="CruxisXIII"]I would actually love for the US to invade Iran. Well, I'm also jewish so go figure. BTW, the Israeli military could wipe Iran out.Kuhu

If history repeats itself? Its been repeating itself for quite some time. Each US presidential election that comes, Israel is like "Oh US help us we r so scaredz of teh middle east"

[QUOTE="Kuhu"]

[QUOTE="CruxisXIII"][QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="CruxisXIII"]I would actually love for the US to invade Iran. Well, I'm also jewish so go figure. BTW, the Israeli military could wipe Iran out.CruxisXIII

If history repeats itself? Its been repeating itself for quite some time. Each US presidential election that comes, Israel is like "Oh US help us we r so scaredz of teh middle east"

[QUOTE="Kuhu"]

[QUOTE="CruxisXIII"][QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="CruxisXIII"]I would actually love for the US to invade Iran. Well, I'm also jewish so go figure. BTW, the Israeli military could wipe Iran out.CruxisXIII

If history repeats itself? Its been repeating itself for quite some time. Each US presidential election that comes, Israel is like "Oh US help us we r so scaredz of teh middle east"

Israel has nukes huh. If they used them on Iran, you do realize Israel would still be affected by the nukes?

[QUOTE="sun-son"][QUOTE="hokies1313"][QUOTE="AlternatingCaps"]

Well, regardless of what I said earlier, even though we WOULD win, we don't need ourselves in another Iraq-esque situation after the conventional war, not to mention the cost in human lives to the Iranian people and the bad reputation the US would get.

God I hope Obama gets elected. We don't need another term of Bush-ish politics.

hokies1313

I really hope McCain wins, so that we can win this war and pull out soon, with dignity. Obama is just going to cut and run, just when violence in Iraq is going down.

No one is going to invade Iran. We've all learned our lesson.

Violence going down in Iraq? Maybe because it has been wiped out!

Wow, what an uneducated post!

No, the violence is going down because people are fed up of the in fighting and a majority just want to move on.

lets also not forget that we're paying them to not kill each other.

I'm no state leader but, investing a lot of money for knowledge about what your "enemies" are doing, it sounds pretty rational and predictable.

But... nothing could surprise me nowadays... all the Carriers are probably prepared to start sailing over there in a matter of hours.

[QUOTE="CruxisXIII"][QUOTE="Kuhu"]

[QUOTE="CruxisXIII"][QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="CruxisXIII"]I would actually love for the US to invade Iran. Well, I'm also jewish so go figure. BTW, the Israeli military could wipe Iran out.Kuhu

If history repeats itself? Its been repeating itself for quite some time. Each US presidential election that comes, Israel is like "Oh US help us we r so scaredz of teh middle east"

Israel has nukes huh. If they used them on Iran, you do realize Israel would still be affected by the nukes?

Actually, most of those weapons were developed as a joint effort by the US and Israel.

Israel wouldnt be affected by the nukes. 5 kiloton nuke launched from an artillery peice would put the Iranians in a panic.

the government-controlled media is putting news like that to make you afraid, to make you think about Iran and war and not to see what the government is doing right there in front of you: taking your money and time, and while you proclaim freedom you are actually a slave of the state, bought and sold in the market place, selling the precious minutes of you life on activities you despise, as a kid you are being brain washed to believe that you will become a movie-star or some other rich figure, but the statistics speak for themselves, the majority of the population are low class workers that are slaves of the rich, being in a constant state of escape, people use the little money they think they earn for mindless entertainment. the only way is to free your mind, by stopping being dependant on the corrupt system, to realize the truth, not believe it, but know it.foggy666

i totally feel what your saying, but how can you stop being dependant on a system that is so intergrated into our lives, i mean you can say stop shopping at major corp., grow your own food, dont put money in banks......i mean they have done a very good job in making this system, i mean most people still think 9/11 was not staged

The US wont stop till they have pissed everyone off

couldnt even win a war with terriost wat makes u think a war with iran will be so easybushidotu

Ever heard of the gulf war?

[QUOTE="Kuhu"][QUOTE="CruxisXIII"][QUOTE="Kuhu"]

[QUOTE="CruxisXIII"][QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="CruxisXIII"]I would actually love for the US to invade Iran. Well, I'm also jewish so go figure. BTW, the Israeli military could wipe Iran out.SylentButDeadly

If history repeats itself? Its been repeating itself for quite some time. Each US presidential election that comes, Israel is like "Oh US help us we r so scaredz of teh middle east"

Israel has nukes huh. If they used them on Iran, you do realize Israel would still be affected by the nukes?

Actually, most of those weapons were developed as a joint effort by the US and Israel.

Israel wouldnt be affected by the nukes. 5 kiloton nuke launched from an artillery peice would put the Iranians in a panic.

Don't just assume that all nukes are the same. There are different missile structures for different nukes. For example: Some of the shells are designed to pierce through the earth and explode from underground. That kind of nuke could easily spread throughout the region, including Israel.