US soldier goes on rampage in Afghanistan killing 16 innocent civilians

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#401 MrPraline
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I'VE TOSSED UNIVERSES IN MY UNDERPANTS WHILE NAPPING
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#402 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="ad1x2"]Fact of the matter is young men and women joining the military should have at least some sense of intelligence when trying to enlist.D3nnyCrane
"Anyone...DUMB ENOUGH...to want to join the military...should be allowed to." - Bill Hicks

"EXCUSE ME AIN'T Y'ALL HIRED KILLERS? When we need you to go bomb the shi t outta a nation of little brown people WE'LL GIVE YOU A CALL!"

I DONT WANNA SEE NO GAY PEOPLE WHILE IM KILLING KIDS I DONT WANNA SEE IT
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#403 rastotm
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[QUOTE="rastotm"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

I don't get it. You're prefer a system of forced conscription rather than a volunteer service and only over a couple years difference? Seriously?

worlock77



I never wanted to make this argument about some draft thingy, it was a lousy reference and got out of hand. I was debating about the American policies promoting young man in the military, which i find crap as this group is more susceptible to problematic behaviours, trauma and psychological problems.

Right, but with the draft you have the same group going into service, only in this case against their will.

I argued that actively searching for the youngyields a even younger group then a random selection of a relatively young group. Furthermore draft at least implies that war is crap, which is closer tothe expectations that most people have when signing up.
That being said, I never wanted this to be a argument about draft.... Just wanted to say that employing young is inefficient and bound to result in insane things.

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#404 washnwax
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[QUOTE="Mikey132"]

*U.S Government goes on rampage in the world killing 16,000 innocent civilians over the last how many decades?*

Can I kill this topic too?

Conno08

Everyone has done their fair share of killing innocents, get off your high horse.

as long as its the americans doing the killing,that must mean its justified.

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#405 ghoklebutter
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"GO BACK TO BED AMERICA YOUR COUNTRY IS SAFE"
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#406 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Conno08"]

[QUOTE="Mikey132"]

*U.S Government goes on rampage in the world killing 16,000 innocent civilians over the last how many decades?*

Can I kill this topic too?

washnwax

Everyone has done their fair share of killing innocents, get off your high horse.

as long as its the americans doing the killing,that must mean its justified.

That's apparently the case. Most of the time these killing sprees are classified, so there's no real way of knowing how often they do these things. All we can say for certain, is that soldiers are only punished when the media finds out.
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#407 MrPraline
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"GO BACK TO BED AMERICA YOUR COUNTRY IS SAFE"ghoklebutter
I WAS JUST IN DALLAS, AND UH YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO TO THE SIXTH FLOOR OF THE SCHOOL BOOK DEPOSITORY. BUT IT'S REALLY WEIRD, YOU CAN ACTUALLY-- THEY HAVE THE WINDOWS SET UP TO LOOK EXACTLY LIKE IT DID ON THAT DAY, AND IT'S REALLY ACCURATE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE OSWALD'S NOT IN IT! HA HA HA! YEAH. SO, I DON'T KNOW WHO DID THEIR RESEARCH, BUT I'M TALKIN' PAINS-TAKING DETAIL.
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#408 D3nnyCrane
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[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] "Anyone...DUMB ENOUGH...to want to join the military...should be allowed to." - Bill HicksMrPraline
"EXCUSE ME AIN'T Y'ALL HIRED KILLERS? When we need you to go bomb the shi t outta a nation of little brown people WE'LL GIVE YOU A CALL!"

I DONT WANNA SEE NO GAY PEOPLE WHILE IM KILLING KIDS I DONT WANNA SEE IT

"Let's just run through those stats again - Iraq lost thousands of men, USA - 79. 79! Does that mean we coulda sent over 80 guys and we still woulda won that fuc kin' war?"
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#409 Joshywaa
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"GO BACK TO BED AMERICA YOUR COUNTRY IS SAFE"ghoklebutter

"I was in Nashville, Tennessee last year. After the show I went to a Waffle House. I'm not proud of it, I was hungry. And I'm alone, I'm eating and I'm reading a book, right? Waitress walks over to me: 'Hey, whatcha readin' for?' Isn't that the weirdest fvcking question you've ever heard? Not what am I reading, but what am I reading FOR? Well, goddamnit, ya stumped me! Why do I read? Well . . . hmmm...I dunno...I guess I read for a lot of reasons and the main one is so I don't end up being a fvckn' waffle waitress."

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#410 lordlors
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Typical Americans... Hey it's a mental breakdown so it's no one's fault and it's "natural occurrence" in wars which makes it pretty normal for soldiers to go insane and kill innocents. Pathetic... If it'd be the other way around, Americans wouldn't think twice about blaming and pointing fingers. The true patriot and nationalist is the one who criticizes his own race, his own culture, and his own government for any flaws, errors, grievances, inefficiencies, etc. because he wants it to be better.
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#411 Joshywaa
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#412 Vesica_Prime
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He should be convicted to the fullest extent of the law. This isn't a case of collateral damage on a mission, this is a case of straight up murder without any tactical goals. Not to mention giving the Taliban and other Islamic militants yet another propaganda tool right after the Koran burning.

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#413 fidosim
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Glad to see OT is taking this seriously.
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#414 MrPraline
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"I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your fvckin' mouth."

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THE WORLD IS LIKE A RIDE AT AN AMUSEMENT PARK, AND WHEN YOU CHOOSE TO GO ON IT, YOU THINK IT'S REAL, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW POWERFUL OUR MINDS ARE. AND THE RIDE GOES UP AND DOWN AND ROUND AND ROUND AND IT HAS THRILLS AND CHILLS AND IT'S VERY BRIGHTLY COLORED AND IT'S VERY LOUD. AND IT'S FUN, FOR A WHILE.

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IT'S JUST A RIDE. BUT WE ALWAYS KILL THOSE GOOD GUYS WHO TRY AND TELL US THAT - EVER NOTICE THAT? - AND WE LET THE DEMONS RUN AMOK. BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER, BECAUSE... IT'S JUST A RIDE, AND WE CAN CHANGE IT ANY TIME WE WANT. IT'S ONLY A CHOICE. NO EFFORT. NO WORRY. NO JOB. NO SAVINGS AND MONEY. JUST A CHOICE, RIGHT NOW, BETWEEN FEAR AND LOVE. THE EYES OF FEAR WANT YOU TO PUT BIGGER LOCKS ON YOUR DOOR, BUY GUNS, CLOSE YOURSELF OFF. THE EYES OF LOVE, INSTEAD, SEE ALL OF US AS ONE.

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#415 ghoklebutter
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"Not only do I think that marijuana should be legalized...it should be MANDATORY." - Bill Hicks
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#416 ghoklebutter
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Glad to see OT is taking this seriously. fidosim
hicks > this thread
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#417 Vesica_Prime
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Is this now a Billy Hicks appreciation thread?

You never see a positive drug story on the news. They always have the same LSD story. You've all seen it: "Today a young man on acid … thought he could fly … jumped out of a building … what a tragedy!" What a dick. He's an idiot. If he thought he could fly, why didn't he take off from the ground first? Check it out? You don't see geese lined up to catch elevators to fly south; they fly from the fvcking ground. He's an idiot. He's dead. Good! We lost a moron? Fvcking celebrate. There's one less moron in the world.

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#418 D3nnyCrane
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Glad to see OT is taking this seriously. fidosim
"Tommy what does G-13 do?" "Says here it destroys everything but the fillings in their teeth..." "Cool, press that one!" *Boooooooom* "OK what does G-14 do?"
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#419 PcGamingRig
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[QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]I don't buy that for a second. You can justify anything by saying someone went insane. He left his base walked, around the village, he knew what he was doing.BossPerson
You obviously have not had an emotional breakdown before.

I've never had one that compels me to kill 16 people. I can justify school shootings, even suicide bombers by saying they had an emotional breakdown.

have you ever been in a firefight?

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#420 MrPraline
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Is this now a Billy Hicks appreciation thread?

You never see a positive drug story on the news. They always have the same LSD story. You've all seen it: "Today a young man on acid … thought he could fly … jumped out of a building … what a tragedy!" What a dick. He's an idiot. If he thought he could fly, why didn't he take off from the ground first? Check it out? You don't see geese lined up to catch elevators to fly south; they fly from the fvcking ground. He's an idiot. He's dead. Good! We lost a moron? Fvcking celebrate. There's one less moron in the world.

Vesica_Prime
yes it is also Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves
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#421 ghoklebutter
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WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE ARMS INDUSTRY ONCE WE DISCOVER THAT WE'RE ALL ONE
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#422 ad1x2
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Glad to see OT is taking this seriously. fidosim

If the thread isn't related to religion, Conservative, or rap bashing the thread gets derailed fast. Although this one goes in and out of topic since it still opens up the occasional USA bashing.

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WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE ARMS INDUSTRY ONCE WE DISCOVER THAT WE'RE ALL ONEghoklebutter
IT'S GONNA F*CK UP THE ECONOMY THE ECONOMY THAT'S FAKE ANYWAY HAHAHAHAHHA
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#424 D3nnyCrane
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WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE ARMS INDUSTRY ONCE WE DISCOVER THAT WE'RE ALL ONEghoklebutter
"I'm writing Jane Fonda, 'Will you please fu ck this guy so we can hear a good news story?' Ted Turner comes up 'By 1993 we'll all die of AIDS, read that on the air. I don't get laid, no one gets laid...'"
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#425 ghoklebutter
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I'M A HAPPY CONSUMER HEHEHEHE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT MY CHILDREN CONSUME EHEHEHE
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#426 MrPraline
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you'll all burn in hell even michelle #obamanation
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#427 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="fidosim"]Glad to see OT is taking this seriously. D3nnyCrane
"Tommy what does G-13 do?" "Says here it destroys everything but the fillings in their teeth..." "Cool, press that one!" *Boooooooom* "OK what does G-14 do?"

:lol: G-13

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#428 worlock77
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[QUOTE="fidosim"]Glad to see OT is taking this seriously. ad1x2

If the thread isn't related to religion, Conservative, or rap bashing the thread gets derailed fast. Although this one goes in and out of topic since it still opens up the occasional USA bashing.

It probably should have been locked 10 pages ago.

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#429 LastRambo341
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The Americans have been doing that for years in Afghanistan and Iraq. It is not surprising
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#430 D3nnyCrane
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I'M A HAPPY CONSUMER HEHEHEHE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT MY CHILDREN CONSUME EHEHEHEghoklebutter
"Mark my words, George. Michael. Is. A. Girl. IF you ladies like him - you're dykes. 'oh look at me I'm George Michael and I'm endorsing Diet Coke cos we don't like big hineys, do we girls?' EVEN MADONNA HAWKED REGULAR COKE! If money had a dic k, George Michael would be a flaming f*****. And I'd shave that 3 day growth off buddy, cos you're foolin' no-one."
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#431 achilles614
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I'm laughing at all the kids ganging up on ol LJS, sure he can be uptight but he's always good to have in a discussion (can't say the same about half of you ITT.) Really don't get where all the dislike for a user comes from.
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#432 Seraphy-
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[QUOTE="achilles614"]I'm laughing at all the kids ganging up on ol LJS, sure he can be uptight but he's always good to have in a discussion (can't say the same about half of you ITT.) Really don't get where all the dislike for a user comes from.

he's an arrogant, narcissistic manchild and you're blind if you think he does anything good for these types of threads
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#433 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="achilles614"]I'm laughing at all the kids ganging up on ol LJS, sure he can be uptight but he's always good to have in a discussion (can't say the same about half of you ITT.) Really don't get where all the dislike for a user comes from.

No idea who the f*ck you are either.
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#434 ghoklebutter
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he's always good to have in a discussionachilles614
what
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#435 Slashless
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I'm laughing at all the kids ganging up on ol LJS, sure he can be uptight but he's always good to have in a discussion (can't say the same about half of you ITT.) Really don't get where all the dislike for a user comes from.achilles614

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#436 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Seraphy-"][QUOTE="achilles614"]I'm laughing at all the kids ganging up on ol LJS, sure he can be uptight but he's always good to have in a discussion (can't say the same about half of you ITT.) Really don't get where all the dislike for a user comes from.

he's an arrogant, narcissistic manchild and you're blind if you think he does anything good for these types of threads

Actually I'm none of that.....and you're back to talking about me again. You are just such a upstanding individual. Always the first to help out in an emergency.....so you nick what you can while no one's looking....right junior?
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#437 Dylan_11
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Actually I'm none of that [QUOTE="Seraphy-"] he's an arrogant,LJS9502_basic
.....and you're back to talking about me again.
narcissisticSeraphy-
You are just such a upstanding individual. Always the first to help out in an emergency.....so you nick what you can while no one's looking....right junior?
manchildSeraphy-

Check, check and check.

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#438 LJS9502_basic
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Check, check and check.Dylan_11
What happened to you? You used to be funny?
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#439 Leejjohno
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Couldn't hack it, shouldn't be a soldier.

Don't know about you guys but in this country people with mental health issues aren't allowed in the military. It's like it's a requirement to have mental health issues just to sign up for the armed forces of america these days.

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#440 achilles614
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="achilles614"]I'm laughing at all the kids ganging up on ol LJS, sure he can be uptight but he's always good to have in a discussion (can't say the same about half of you ITT.) Really don't get where all the dislike for a user comes from.

No idea who the f*ck you are either.

Oh god someone likes themselves too much, who the **** said I was talking about you :lol: Like you're relevant enough to me to be worth a mention. This is quite a humorous thread, here the supposed "in" crowd gangs up on someone...on an internet forum. It's a game of who has the most time to piss away congrats. you go team ;) ! Having seen LJS's posts for a few years I've learned people seem to enjoy trying (and failing) to get a reaction out of him.
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#441 Seraphy-
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....he also has a tendency to deny that you're right while he goes on to actually prove so in the following sentences I'm not sure that's a quality you want of anyone in a debate thread
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#443 Slashless
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[QUOTE="achilles614"][QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="achilles614"]I'm laughing at all the kids ganging up on ol LJS, sure he can be uptight but he's always good to have in a discussion (can't say the same about half of you ITT.) Really don't get where all the dislike for a user comes from.

No idea who the f*ck you are either.

Oh god someone likes themselves too much, who the **** said I was talking about you :lol: Like you're relevant enough to me to be worth a mention. This is quite a humorous thread, here the supposed "in" crowd gangs up on someone...on an internet forum. It's a game of who has the most time to piss away congrats. you go team ;) ! Having seen LJS's posts for a few years I've learned people seem to enjoy trying (and failing) to get a reaction out of him.

OMG LJ has his very own Cheekkisser :3
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#444 Joshywaa
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="achilles614"]I'm laughing at all the kids ganging up on ol LJS, sure he can be uptight but he's always good to have in a discussion (can't say the same about half of you ITT.) Really don't get where all the dislike for a user comes from.achilles614
No idea who the f*ck you are either.

Oh god someone likes themselves too much, who the **** said I was talking about you :lol: Like you're relevant enough to me to be worth a mention. This is quite a humorous thread, here the supposed "in" crowd gangs up on someone...on an internet forum. It's a game of who has the most time to piss away congrats. you go team ;) ! Having seen LJS's posts for a few years I've learned people seem to enjoy trying (and failing) to get a reaction out of him.

Well, if he's not relevent enough to you to be worth a mention from you

then you wouldn't have made this frivolously contrived post directed at him

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#445 MrPraline
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Like you're relevant enough to me to be worth a mention. achilles614
bro I don't know who you were a 100 years ago back when LJS ruled this mes of a website, but to answer your question: yes.
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#446 Seraphy-
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(and failing) to get a reaction out of him.achilles614
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'm sorry but OMG HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THIS IS WHAT YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE
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#447 achilles614
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[QUOTE="Slashless"][QUOTE="achilles614"][QUOTE="MrPraline"] No idea who the f*ck you are either.

Oh god someone likes themselves too much, who the **** said I was talking about you :lol: Like you're relevant enough to me to be worth a mention. This is quite a humorous thread, here the supposed "in" crowd gangs up on someone...on an internet forum. It's a game of who has the most time to piss away congrats. you go team ;) ! Having seen LJS's posts for a few years I've learned people seem to enjoy trying (and failing) to get a reaction out of him.

OMG LJ has his very own Cheekkisser :3

You've been a member less than 6 months and have nearly 6000 posts. :lol: The sunshine doesn't hurt once in a while!
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#448 ghoklebutter
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Like you're relevant enough to me to be worth a mention.achilles614

"I WANT YOU TO GO FIND A F*CKING SOUL" - Bill Hicks

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#449 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="achilles614"][QUOTE="Slashless"][QUOTE="achilles614"] Oh god someone likes themselves too much, who the **** said I was talking about you :lol: Like you're relevant enough to me to be worth a mention. This is quite a humorous thread, here the supposed "in" crowd gangs up on someone...on an internet forum. It's a game of who has the most time to piss away congrats. you go team ;) ! Having seen LJS's posts for a few years I've learned people seem to enjoy trying (and failing) to get a reaction out of him.

OMG LJ has his very own Cheekkisser :3

You've been a member less than 6 months and have nearly 6000 posts. :lol: The sunshine doesn't hurt once in a while!

achilles careful now
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#450 Heisenderp
Member since 2011 • 815 Posts

[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

The guy killed 16 people. Im not a law expert, but what is the jail time usually given for a single homicide in America?

LJS9502_basic

First you have to prove if the person was able to grasp mentally that what he did was wrong....ie people with mental illnesses are not tried as though they understood their actions. So if he had a break down that changes everything.....

Nope, if you plead guilty by reason of insanity, the burden of proof is now on you.