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#1 Jynx_1991
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Last week, while I was walking from a class to another class, I witnessed a rather large group of people surrounding two people: a guy and a girl. At which point the girl slaps the guy in the face multiple times while the guy is trying to shield himself from her. He then tells her to stop (I think? Couldn't tell because so much noise from the crowd), at which point she kicked him in the groin. The worst part about it all is that even campus security, didn't even bother to check and see if the guy was ok, instead he was holding his bike from afar and... laughing... So after the crowd gradually thinned out, some guy and I asked if the guy was ok, and asked why she hit him to which he told us that his girlfriend accused him of cheating on her.

Even if the guy did cheat on the girl, violence is NEVER ok, only in self defense it is which clearly wasn't the case. I guess what I'm getting at is it's so appalling to see men being abused like that and to see the majority of people laugh and taunt him was just out of line.

The media is always showing men being verbally/physically abused. Getting slapped in the face, kicked in the groin, degraded by verbal abuse is funny? Whether it's cartoons, comedies, etc. they all show men being abused.

I remember taking a class in which we learned about how a woman cut her husband, tried to poke out his right eyeball, smashed his teeth in with her high heels (I kid you not), burnt him, and tried to but was unsuccessful in burning him alive. You know what her punishment was? A few days in jail and some type of anger management classes. Seriously? And I'm sure you guys heard about the 300+ woman who crushed her boyfriend to death while sitting on top of him, to which no punishment was enforced, instead she walks free. How is this ok? How can anyone justify this?

As a woman, I find it insulting how some girls can do inflict harm on someone and it's considered as the "norm," when it should be regarded as violence. Gender does not matter. Anyone is capable of violence. Why are only women protected under the law, and not men too?

Anyways... I guess I'm still just so shocked (I've never seen violence like that in person).

Tell me what yougguys think and thanks so much for taking the time to reading this.

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#2 kingkong0124
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i completely agree, double standards suck

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#3 Optical_Order
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Yeah, that's called assault.

You want to see more injustice on men's rights, check out this woman's youtube page. She raises a lot of good points.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBzx-SMSwGE&feature=channel&list=UL(video is releveant.)

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#4 ghoklebutter
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Violence is horrible regardless of the genders of the people involved. I agree.
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#5 Jynx_1991
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Yeah, like I imagine if the guy being hit my his girlfriend so much as pushed her in self defense, everyone would be screaming "violence against women!"

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#7 chad_daddy
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If a girl tried to burn me i would take the lighter out of her hand and smack that hoe in the face, if you wish to act like a dog il treat you like a dog, put a leash
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There is no gender equality. There is no justice. Just ask the divorce courts.
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#9 Optical_Order
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There is no gender equality. There is no justice. Just ask the divorce courts.bjvill

Some of the things women are able to routinely get away with in court is disgusting.

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#10 Sharpie125
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I saw a vid on youtube not long ago. Some crazy psycho girl confronted her I guess boyfriend on the NY subway, accused him of cheating on her, and started beating the crap out of him and spitting on him. The subway was locked down and the whole time the guy just sat still with his hands up, showing everyone he wasn't fighting back. Like, this girl was actually kicking him in the head with her boots. Then the stupid b!tch filming it on her phone just made wisecracks the whole time and everyone in the car watched from their seats.

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#11 Jynx_1991
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[QUOTE="bjvill"]There is no gender equality. There is no justice. Just ask the divorce courts.Optical_Order

Some of the things women are able to routinely get away with in court is disgusting.

Yes, as a woman I have to admit this is 100% true. I've heard of cases where women are granted custody of the children despite the father being a better parent. The courts just assume that all women are "good" but this is not always the case. There are always going to be bad fathers or mothers, but to give a child to the mother based soley on her gender is so unjust.

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#12 Optical_Order
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^ @sharpie

It's ridiculous that men are conditioned to simply take that assault and say thank you.

Any man who is being assaulted by a woman should defend themselves and knock them the f*ck out like they would if it was a guy.

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I'd hit a b*tch if she touched me. Wanna act like I man, I'll treat you like one.
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#14 Jynx_1991
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I saw a vid on youtube not long ago. Some crazy psycho girl confronted her I guess boyfriend on the NY subway, accused him of cheating on her, and started beating the crap out of him and spitting on him. The subway was locked down and the whole time the guy just sat still with his hands up, showing everyone he wasn't fighting back. Like, this girl was actually kicking him in the head with her boots. Then the stupid b!tch filming it on her phone just made wisecracks the whole time and everyone in the car watched from their seats.

Sharpie125

I don't think I EVER want to watch that video, because I'm cringing alone from reading your message. I cant even fathom how/why someone could do that to someone else. And once again, the fact that people just stood by and watched makes it all the more worse.

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#15 TrashBoat
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I have never seen it other than a girl in my school who hit this kid but he caught the kick (ugh do not know why you would start a fight trying to kick and got slammed into a locker). I went to my class but my friends told me that was what happened and that the boy was shorter than the chick.
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#16 TrashBoat
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I'd hit a b*tch if she touched me. Wanna act like I man, I'll treat you like one.Fightingfan
Accept women are on average weaker than a man... If I saw someone alot weaker than me trying to hit me I would not bust their face in...
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#17 Optical_Order
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]I'd hit a b*tch if she touched me. Wanna act like I man, I'll treat you like one.TrashBoat
Accept women are on average weaker than a man... If I saw someone alot weaker than me trying to hit me I would not bust their face in...

Even if it was a weaker man?

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#18 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]I'd hit a b*tch if she touched me. Wanna act like I man, I'll treat you like one.TrashBoat
Accept women are on average weaker than a man... If I saw someone alot weaker than me trying to hit me I would not bust their face in...

That's sexist, if she has the intent to cause physical harm you should too.
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#19 TrashBoat
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[QUOTE="TrashBoat"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"]I'd hit a b*tch if she touched me. Wanna act like I man, I'll treat you like one.Optical_Order

Accept women are on average weaker than a man... If I saw someone alot weaker than me trying to hit me I would not bust their face in...

Even if it was a weaker man?

That is the point... Would you really as someone who goes to the gym knock a really skinny or fat guys face in? Violence should be in self defense but in the case of a woman, skinny, fat, weaker man you should restrain and not beat the **** out of the person. Although legally you can.
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#20 Jynx_1991
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]I'd hit a b*tch if she touched me. Wanna act like I man, I'll treat you like one.TrashBoat
Accept women are on average weaker than a man... If I saw someone alot weaker than me trying to hit me I would not bust their face in...

Violence is violence. Yes, hitting a female is especially wrong considering we're physically weaker and all, but if a girl is hitting you, what are you supposed to do? It's your life or your ego.

Like I said I don't believe/condone violence of any kind, but if someone is intentionally harming you, fighting back is the human thing to do.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but cant a kick in the groin actually kill a guy? I think I've heard this somewhere but can someone please verify if that's true or not.

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#21 Optical_Order
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[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

[QUOTE="TrashBoat"] Accept women are on average weaker than a man... If I saw someone alot weaker than me trying to hit me I would not bust their face in...TrashBoat

Even if it was a weaker man?

That is the point... Would you really as someone who goes to the gym knock a really skinny or fat guys face in? Violence should be in self defense but in the case of a woman, skinny, fat, weaker man you should restrain and not beat the **** out of the person. Although legally you can.

What if I don't go to the gym? What if that weaker person is hell bent on punching my face in? Just because I'm stronger I should just take it?

Restraining is ideal, but let's be realistic here. If they are really hell bent on kicking your ass they're just going to go after you once you let them up. It always depends on the situation, but simply not defending yourself because they are a woman and are therefore weaker is sexist.

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#22 bjvill
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I've heard of cases where women are granted custody of the children despite the father being a better parent. The courts just assume that all women are "good" but this is not always the case. There are always going to be bad fathers or mothers, but to give a child to the mother based soley on her gender is so unjust.Jynx_1991
Heheh. I know too well about this. But heck I've said too much already. The "Suck it up, be a man" clause is somewhere in the fine print of my Y chromosome.
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#24 TrashBoat
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I hardly see violent women, it is a very rare phenomena as far as statistics go.
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#25 Optical_Order
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I hardly see violent women, it is a very rare phenomena as far as statistics go.TrashBoat

Yeah, because it goes unreported.

It also goes beyond simply physical abuse. A lot of men are verbally abused and just manipulated the f*ck out of. But men being men suck it up and don't bother telling anyone because it makes them look weak.

It's a bunch of biological and societal bullsh*t that doesn't apply anymore.

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#26 Jynx_1991
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I hardly see violent women, it is a very rare phenomena as far as statistics go.TrashBoat

That's because the men that are being subjected to abuse from women don't speak up, therefore the statistics only show men as abusers. I'll pull up a video for this if you like (hopefully I can find it).

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#27 TrashBoat
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[QUOTE="TrashBoat"]I hardly see violent women, it is a very rare phenomena as far as statistics go.Optical_Order

Yeah, because it goes unreported.

Or because women have less testosterone which causes most violence.
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[QUOTE="TrashBoat"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"]I'd hit a b*tch if she touched me. Wanna act like I man, I'll treat you like one.Jynx_1991

Accept women are on average weaker than a man... If I saw someone alot weaker than me trying to hit me I would not bust their face in...

And correct me if I'm wrong, but cant a kick in the groin actually kill a guy? I think I've heard this somewhere but can someone please verify if that's true or not.

Yeah. On one episode of 1,000 Ways to Die, a football player kicked his coach so hard in the balls it caused some bones to shatter and impaled his kidneys or something.

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Generally most men that are being abused at home (or wherever), choose to refrain from speaking about the abuse because of the shame, embarrassment, that they face. Because society puts it in our head that men are stronger than women, so they should just "take" the pain. Yes, men are physically stronger but violence is never ok. Oh god, I sound like a broken record saying that don't I?

Anyways, I have to get to bed considering I have a huge test so goodnight guys.

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#30 Optical_Order
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[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

[QUOTE="TrashBoat"]I hardly see violent women, it is a very rare phenomena as far as statistics go.TrashBoat

Yeah, because it goes unreported.

Or because women have less testosterone which causes most violence.

That was a nice heap of bullsh!t.

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#31 TrashBoat
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Generally most men that are being abused at home (or wherever), choose to refrain from speaking about the abuse because of the shame, embarrassment, that they face. Because society puts it in our head that men are stronger than women, so they should just "take" the pain. Yes, men are physically stronger but violence is never ok. Oh god, I sound like a broken record saying that don't I?

Anyways, I have to get to bed considering I have a huge test so goodnight guys.

Jynx_1991
Sweetie do you not get along with other women or something? You seem to view men as the victims when more than often they are not. History shows this, everything points to more often than not women being victimized.
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#32 gamerguru100
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[QUOTE="Jynx_1991"]

Generally most men that are being abused at home (or wherever), choose to refrain from speaking about the abuse because of the shame, embarrassment, that they face. Because society puts it in our head that men are stronger than women, so they should just "take" the pain. Yes, men are physically stronger but violence is never ok. Oh god, I sound like a broken record saying that don't I?

Anyways, I have to get to bed considering I have a huge test so goodnight guys.

TrashBoat
Sweetie do you not get along with other women or something? You seem to view men as the victims when more than often they are not. History shows this, everything points to more often than not women being victimized.

We're in the 21st century now. Focus on the here and now. All groups, men, women, whites, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, gays, transsexuals etc. are all discriminated against in some manner. It's not just whites and men doing all the hating anymore.
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#33 TrashBoat
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[QUOTE="TrashBoat"][QUOTE="Jynx_1991"]

Generally most men that are being abused at home (or wherever), choose to refrain from speaking about the abuse because of the shame, embarrassment, that they face. Because society puts it in our head that men are stronger than women, so they should just "take" the pain. Yes, men are physically stronger but violence is never ok. Oh god, I sound like a broken record saying that don't I?

Anyways, I have to get to bed considering I have a huge test so goodnight guys.

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Sweetie do you not get along with other women or something? You seem to view men as the victims when more than often they are not. History shows this, everything points to more often than not women being victimized.

We're in the 21st century now. Focus on the here and now. All groups, men, women, whites, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, gays, transsexuals etc. are all discriminated against in some manner. It's not just whites and men doing all the hating anymore.

Statistically women are much less likely to commit violent crime or be violent than men...
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#34 gamerguru100
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[QUOTE="TrashBoat"][QUOTE="gamerguru100"][QUOTE="TrashBoat"] Sweetie do you not get along with other women or something? You seem to view men as the victims when more than often they are not. History shows this, everything points to more often than not women being victimized.

We're in the 21st century now. Focus on the here and now. All groups, men, women, whites, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, gays, transsexuals etc. are all discriminated against in some manner. It's not just whites and men doing all the hating anymore.

Statistically women are much less likely to commit violent crime or be violent than men...

True, but men experience much discrimination today too. It may not be as widespread as misogyny, but it's there.
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#35 Jynx_1991
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[QUOTE="Jynx_1991"]

Generally most men that are being abused at home (or wherever), choose to refrain from speaking about the abuse because of the shame, embarrassment, that they face. Because society puts it in our head that men are stronger than women, so they should just "take" the pain. Yes, men are physically stronger but violence is never ok. Oh god, I sound like a broken record saying that don't I?

Anyways, I have to get to bed considering I have a huge test so goodnight guys.

TrashBoat

Sweetie do you not get along with other women or something? You seem to view men as the victims when more than often they are not. History shows this, everything points to more often than not women being victimized.

...Whoa, I was about to get to bed but I saw your message and felt compelled to respond.

To answer your question, I do get along with women, I have a lot more female friends than I do male friends.

...Anyways, I do realize that men aren't always the victims, but I feel like since women are protected from the law that some of them feel entitled to justify their abuse which is not ok. Do women need protection yes, but the downside of this is what I just mentioned.

Ok once again (and for sure this time) goodnight all.

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#36 Optical_Order
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stfu trash.

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Its the victim clause, they take advantage that everyone thinks they are natural victims. So they think they can morally do whatever they feel like. I am not sure why there are men who do nothing, very weird. Like if someone is hitting you, you dont just let them do it. I watched this youtube video about a girl who pretty much assaulted her boyfriend, and he just passively lets her. Its like "WTF.. you can easily just brush her aside." The woman is bad, but the guy who just lets them do it is just as bad.

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stfu trash.

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What's wrong with you? Did you get beat up today or something?
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#39 Shadowchronicle
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Which is why stereotypes should be forgotten in these types of situations.
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It's a normative behavior thing. If it had been the reverse in that situation, that guy would have been pulled back and probably would have faced assault charges. Also, she acted in anger because she thought the guy was cheating on her. Crimes of passion tend to view both sides a little differently.

Double standards kinda suck, but he might have deserved the beating he received if he did indeed cheat on her. That's how I personally feel. Now the same thing wouldn't be true if it were a guy for the same type of situation, which is a double standard, but in this case it's difficult to judge.

It's muddy water to tread through, and neither side would be right in what they did if he really did cheat on her, but in this case I feel that she could have been justified.

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#41 dkdk999
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Yeah, that's called assault.

You want to see more injustice on men's rights, check out this woman's youtube page. She raises a lot of good points.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBzx-SMSwGE&feature=channel&list=UL(video is releveant.)

Optical_Order
I agree great channel.
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I agree with this topic.
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Just give her a stone cold stunner.
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Ahah just shows who the man of the relationship was.

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"Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned."
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#46 TrashBoat
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"Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned."bjvill
Yeah I upset a woman before and she ruined my reputation socially. I am not arguing women can not be mean just are less violent factually.
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[QUOTE="TrashBoat"][QUOTE="gamerguru100"][QUOTE="TrashBoat"] Sweetie do you not get along with other women or something? You seem to view men as the victims when more than often they are not. History shows this, everything points to more often than not women being victimized.

We're in the 21st century now. Focus on the here and now. All groups, men, women, whites, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, gays, transsexuals etc. are all discriminated against in some manner. It's not just whites and men doing all the hating anymore.

Statistically women are much less likely to commit violent crime or be violent than men...

while this may be true, it doesn't make it right when a woman beats up a man.
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#48 Cloud_765
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This is why we can't have nice things. Because we're a bunch of two-faces motherf***ers. Seriously people need to get their s*** straight. If it's not okay for a guy to hit a girl then it's not okay for a girl to hit a guy, period.
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#49 Zaibach
Member since 2007 • 13466 Posts

This is why we can't have nice things. Because we're a bunch of two-faces motherf***ers. Seriously people need to get their s*** straight. If it's not okay for a guy to hit a girl then it's not okay for a girl to hit a guy, period. Cloud_765

The root of the problem is very very complex but what it has led to is a socio-economic culture I cannot stand

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