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...because they refuse to offer them decent wages and benefits. Thus all these employees are forced to go on government assistance. In other words, that buck or two you are saving at walmart is just being taken out of your tax payer money anyway to pay walmart's employees what walmart will not pay.

What is your opinion on walmart, and are the size of these major corporations a big problem in American society?

Do you think the government should limit their size and break some of them up? I think so.

In my opinion, it should be within the government's role to protect citizens from depending on these juggernaut corporations. I think we missed a good oppourtunity to reform with this whole "too big to fail" fiasco because Obama was too worried about health care reform.

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#2 DroidPhysX
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Solution?

Give Wal Mart tax breaks.

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Not serious

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#3 LJS9502_basic
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Happen to have any verifiable link for this?
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Solution?

Give Wal Mart tax breaks.

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Not serious

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If only so many other people weren't, either. . .
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I stick to the Mom and Pop places as much as I can, and this just gives me one more reason to.
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#6 EntropyWins
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Happen to have any verifiable link for this?LJS9502_basic
It is taken from the documentary "Walmart: The High Cost of Low Price". I am watching it right now. Granted these numbers were from 2005, but I am willing to reckon not much has changed for some reason. I can give you specific numbers from each state of how many people are on assistanc to if you would like...

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linky? it is a minimum wage gig anywho
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Something like 80% of their employees don't have health insurance, and a huge number of them are on welfare because they pay slave wages. Meanwhile the corporate overlords at Walmart live like kings. It's a typical example of how corporations are putting a huge drain on tax payers because they treat their employees like dirt.

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Government should have no control over this. It is the employees decision to work that job, get that wage. If they are at least paying minimum wage, then it is legal, and there is absolutely NO reason to have government intervention. This isn't some third world country where companies pay them 10 cents an hour. People who work at walmart are either teenages with no job history, or adult employees with some sort of criminal record (if you are neither, and have job experience, then finding a new job with better wages would not be all that difficult). Walmart hires a huge chunk of american citizens. They have helped create jobs, and once again, in no way are they doing anything wrong.

Also, to the people stating they don't get insurance benefits...THEY DO. Unless your a part time worker, then they don't, as 99% of companies don't do anyway.

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Government should have no control over this. It is the employees decision to work that job, get that wage. If they are at least paying minimum wage, then it is legal, and there is absolutely NO reason to have government intervention. This isn't some third world country where companies pay them 10 cents an hour. People who work at walmart are either teenages with no job history, or adult employees with some sort of criminal record (if you are neither, and have job experience, then finding a new job with better wages would not be all that difficult). Walmart hires a huge chunk of american citizens. They have helped create jobs, and once again, in no way are they doing anything wrong. MetallicaKings
Cool, without Gov't intervention we only have robbers. But hey, take a look at Wall St. in 2008. Thats your post in a nut shell.

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Its an unskilled entry job they dont deserve to get full benefits and amazing pay. If the government forces them to pay their employees more, then they will hire less people to save the money. Therefore a lot of people are left jobless......

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[QUOTE="MetallicaKings"]Government should have no control over this. It is the employees decision to work that job, get that wage. If they are at least paying minimum wage, then it is legal, and there is absolutely NO reason to have government intervention. This isn't some third world country where companies pay them 10 cents an hour. People who work at walmart are either teenages with no job history, or adult employees with some sort of criminal record (if you are neither, and have job experience, then finding a new job with better wages would not be all that difficult). Walmart hires a huge chunk of american citizens. They have helped create jobs, and once again, in no way are they doing anything wrong. DroidPhysX

Cool, without Gov't intervention we only have robbers. But hey, take a look at Wall St. in 2008. Thats your post in a nut shell.

Thats a problem with human nature and the way those people ran their business. They deserved to fail.
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Its an unskilled entry job they dont deserve to get full benefits and amazing pay. If the government forces them to pay their employees more, then they will hire less people to save the money. Therefore a lot of people are left jobless......

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So people with entry level positions don't deserve to be treated like decent human beings?

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[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Its an unskilled entry job they dont deserve to get full benefits and amazing pay. If the government forces them to pay their employees more, then they will hire less people to save the money. Therefore a lot of people are left jobless......

EntropyWins

So people with entry level positions don't deserve to be treated like decent human beings?

jobs like walmart are ment to be for a couple years part time

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[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Its an unskilled entry job they dont deserve to get full benefits and amazing pay. If the government forces them to pay their employees more, then they will hire less people to save the money. Therefore a lot of people are left jobless......

EntropyWins

So people with entry level positions don't deserve to be treated like decent human beings?

If wallmart jobs were so crappy they would have the thousands of employees that they do. For a lot of people its probably a great first job to have. Unskilled jobs like that shouldnt be able to fully support one person. And if they did, the company would hire way fewer people and there would be a lot of people jobless.
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[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Its an unskilled entry job they dont deserve to get full benefits and amazing pay. If the government forces them to pay their employees more, then they will hire less people to save the money. Therefore a lot of people are left jobless......

EntropyWins

So people with entry level positions don't deserve to be treated like decent human beings?

They don't unionize....so it's partly their fault.
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[QUOTE="EntropyWins"]

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Its an unskilled entry job they dont deserve to get full benefits and amazing pay. If the government forces them to pay their employees more, then they will hire less people to save the money. Therefore a lot of people are left jobless......

AdamPA1006

So people with entry level positions don't deserve to be treated like decent human beings?

If wallmart jobs were so crappy they would have the thousands of employees that they do. For a lot of people its probably a great first job to have. Unskilled jobs like that shouldnt be able to fully support one person. And if they did, the company would hire way fewer people and there would be a lot of people jobless.

Walmart jobs are so crappy, and yet they have a lot of employees. You know why? Because there is nothing else available because walmart has strangled most of their small competition. They need to be able to support people, because that is all that is available in some areas. Maybe for middle class white kids sitting on their computers, it seems like a kid job, but walk into a walmart and you are almost guaranteed to find more older people trying to survive off of a walmart salary as you are teens getting a sumer job. If they hired fewer people or was forced to raise prices to actually support their workforce, maybe that would balance out the marked and give other people a chance at competing with them and opening up other stores to hire people.

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[QUOTE="MetallicaKings"]Government should have no control over this. It is the employees decision to work that job, get that wage. If they are at least paying minimum wage, then it is legal, and there is absolutely NO reason to have government intervention. This isn't some third world country where companies pay them 10 cents an hour. People who work at walmart are either teenages with no job history, or adult employees with some sort of criminal record (if you are neither, and have job experience, then finding a new job with better wages would not be all that difficult). Walmart hires a huge chunk of american citizens. They have helped create jobs, and once again, in no way are they doing anything wrong. DroidPhysX

Cool, without Gov't intervention we only have robbers. But hey, take a look at Wall St. in 2008. Thats your post in a nut shell.

That made absolutely no sense. Government intervention should happen when needed. I never denied that. But, here? Not so much....as my post stated.

Do you want government intervention on every company that pays their workers minimum wage? I'm just not quite getting this. They are an entry level job. They pay minimum wage, as does most entry level positions. They are being legal. Why in gods name would the government intervine?

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Happen to have any verifiable link for this?EntropyWins

It is taken from the documentary "Walmart: The High Cost of Low Price". I am watching it right now. Granted these numbers were from 2005, but I am willing to reckon not much has changed for some reason. I can give you specific numbers from each state of how many people are on assistanc to if you would like...

Any other sources? because an anti Wall Mart documentary is not a #1 source for me... Like Supersize me or anything Michael Moore made.
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So, you want to raise wages for wal-mart employees? Which will in turn raise the price for the types of goods they sell (a large amount are necessities) This will make everyone relatively less well-off.......... Sounds great.............
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Happen to have any verifiable link for this?EntropyWins

It is taken from the documentary "Walmart: The High Cost of Low Price". I am watching it right now. Granted these numbers were from 2005, but I am willing to reckon not much has changed for some reason. I can give you specific numbers from each state of how many people are on assistanc to if you would like...

Documentaries tend to have a bias. How about a government source?
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[QUOTE="EntropyWins"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Happen to have any verifiable link for this?LJS9502_basic

It is taken from the documentary "Walmart: The High Cost of Low Price". I am watching it right now. Granted these numbers were from 2005, but I am willing to reckon not much has changed for some reason. I can give you specific numbers from each state of how many people are on assistanc to if you would like...

Documentaries tend to have a bias. How about a government source?

Just do a quic google search, if you don't believe my documentary. This was the first thing that came up for me.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="EntropyWins"] It is taken from the documentary "Walmart: The High Cost of Low Price". I am watching it right now. Granted these numbers were from 2005, but I am willing to reckon not much has changed for some reason. I can give you specific numbers from each state of how many people are on assistanc to if you would like...

EntropyWins

Documentaries tend to have a bias. How about a government source?

Just do a quic google search, if you don't believe my documentary. This was the first thing that came up for me.

Well as I commented earlier.....the employees won't unionize which means that what WalMart is doing is within the law. But I didn't need the link to know that they don't pay top dollar etc. I meant a link for the goverment money. WalMart is not the only company that pays minimum and doesn't offer benefits.

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...because they refuse to offer them decent wages and benefits. Thus all these employees are forced to go on government assistance. In other words, that buck or two you are saving at walmart is just being taken out of your tax payer money anyway to pay walmart's employees what walmart will not pay.

What is your opinion on walmart, and are the size of these major corporations a big problem in American society?

Do you think the government should limit their size and break some of them up? I think so.

In my opinion, it should be within the government's role to protect citizens from depending on these juggernaut corporations. I think we missed a good oppourtunity to reform with this whole "too big to fail" fiasco because Obama was too worried about health care reform.

EntropyWins
ok lets see a link before I believe that huge number. I happen to know people who work at Wal-mar and they are happy to have a job and are sick and tired of their employer being dissed by people all the time who don't know anything about the company. we don't need "big brother" who is already broke with the health care fiasco to start trying to spend more of our money that he does not have. you documentary besides being out of date is also not truthful. it was debunked long ago
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Wal-Mart also employs 1.5 million people

So, it is like $1,000 per person employed........

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[QUOTE="EntropyWins"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Documentaries tend to have a bias. How about a government source?LJS9502_basic

Just do a quic google search, if you don't believe my documentary. This was the first thing that came up for me.

Well as I commented earlier.....the employees won't unionize which means that what WalMart is doing is within the law. But I didn't need the link to know that they don't pay top dollar etc. I meant a link for the goverment money. WalMart is not the only company that pays minimum and doesn't offer benefits.

Well, I do not have any government links, (though to be fair I have not looked for one either). Also, Walmart is known as one of the most aggressively anti union companies in the world, you mention union in one of their stores and you put a big target on your chest and are as good as gone. I am not arguing for the legality of all their practices, but about whether it is right or wrong. And it is wrong.

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[QUOTE="EntropyWins"]

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Its an unskilled entry job they dont deserve to get full benefits and amazing pay. If the government forces them to pay their employees more, then they will hire less people to save the money. Therefore a lot of people are left jobless......

LJS9502_basic

So people with entry level positions don't deserve to be treated like decent human beings?

They don't unionize....so it's partly their fault.

Walmart has gone pretty far to avoid unions from successfully forming. In one case, a meat-cutting department successfully did it. A week later, they replaced the department by selling packaged sliced meat. In another, they actually closed down a whole store. They even have a hotline in some regions for managers when they suspect that employees are trying to form a union. There's an article from Financial Times about it, but I can't find it online though.... but here's a Wikipedia link.

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[QUOTE="EntropyWins"]

...because they refuse to offer them decent wages and benefits. Thus all these employees are forced to go on government assistance. In other words, that buck or two you are saving at walmart is just being taken out of your tax payer money anyway to pay walmart's employees what walmart will not pay.

What is your opinion on walmart, and are the size of these major corporations a big problem in American society?

Do you think the government should limit their size and break some of them up? I think so.

In my opinion, it should be within the government's role to protect citizens from depending on these juggernaut corporations. I think we missed a good oppourtunity to reform with this whole "too big to fail" fiasco because Obama was too worried about health care reform.

iowastate

ok lets see a link before I believe that huge number. I happen to know people who work at Wal-mar and they are happy to have a job and are sick and tired of their employer being dissed by people all the time who don't know anything about the company. we don't need "big brother" who is already broke with the health care fiasco to start trying to spend more of our money that he does not have. you documentary besides being out of date is also not truthful. it was debunked long ago

Well then walmart must be pleased that they have indoctrinated your friends well. If you can convince people that they are just lucky to have a job, then you don't have to worry about paying them decent wages. I'm sure the rich manager's are making a fortune off of convincing people that they deserve crap pay.

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For as much money as Wal-Mart makes, you'd figure they offer more than just minimum wage for most of their employees

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="EntropyWins"] So people with entry level positions don't deserve to be treated like decent human beings?

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They don't unionize....so it's partly their fault.

Walmart has gone pretty far to avoid unions from successfully forming. In one case, a meat-cutting department successfully did it. A week later, they replaced the department by selling packaged sliced meat. In another, they actually closed down a whole store. They even have a hotline in some regions for managers when they suspect that employees are trying to form a union. There's an article from Financial Times about it, but I can't find it online though.... but here's a Wikipedia link.

Oh I realize from the business side of things they don't want unions...but the employees don't much press for it amongst themselves. They seem happy with what they have....

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First of all, I didn't think people with a job (even if it is Walmart) are entitled to government benefits. Second, Walmart pretty much hires the lowest of the low. If these people didn't get one of the many Walmart jobs, they'd probably be out of a job or doing something with even less pay, paying even less taxes and costing even more tax money. It's probably better that it's coming out of my taxes rather than directly out of my pockets.
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Its an entry lvl job, welecome to america, if your looking to make money working at walmart or any other store like that is not were to go. Most of the people are first time jobs or people who don't have the skills or eduction to get a better job.

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[QUOTE="flipin_jackass"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] They don't unionize....so it's partly their fault.LJS9502_basic

Walmart has gone pretty far to avoid unions from successfully forming. In one case, a meat-cutting department successfully did it. A week later, they replaced the department by selling packaged sliced meat. In another, they actually closed down a whole store. They even have a hotline in some regions for managers when they suspect that employees are trying to form a union. There's an article from Financial Times about it, but I can't find it online though.... but here's a Wikipedia link.

Oh I realize from the business side of things they don't want unions...but the employees don't much press for it amongst themselves. They seem happy with what they have....

Believe me, they are not happy. Walmart faces lawsuits constantly and it is just cheaper for them to settle them than to accept unions and the like. They will not allow unions. It is not a testament to the will of the workers, but a testament to Walmart's unwaivering will to crush any chance of union ever.

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Wait, you're complaining about how unskilled entry-level jobs pay minimum wage? Bagging groceries and running a cash register aren't jobs that are meant to support a family, they're just entry-level jobs for high-school kids and people going to school to work toward getting higher-paying jobs, whether or not with wal-mart.
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Why single out Wal-Mart? Wal-Mart jobs are minimum wage jobs like any other minimum wage job.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="flipin_jackass"] Walmart has gone pretty far to avoid unions from successfully forming. In one case, a meat-cutting department successfully did it. A week later, they replaced the department by selling packaged sliced meat. In another, they actually closed down a whole store. They even have a hotline in some regions for managers when they suspect that employees are trying to form a union. There's an article from Financial Times about it, but I can't find it online though.... but here's a Wikipedia link.

EntropyWins

Oh I realize from the business side of things they don't want unions...but the employees don't much press for it amongst themselves. They seem happy with what they have....

Believe me, they are not happy. Walmart faces lawsuits constantly and it is just cheaper for them to settle them than to accept unions and the like. They will not allow unions. It is not a testament to the will of the workers, but a testament to Walmart's unwaivering will to crush any chance of union ever.

Unions today are just a joke. Their members get paid inflated salaries compared to their education/abilities, and incompetence is no longer cause for getting fired. You pretty much have to die, shoot up cocaine or **** a hooker to lose your union job.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="flipin_jackass"] Walmart has gone pretty far to avoid unions from successfully forming. In one case, a meat-cutting department successfully did it. A week later, they replaced the department by selling packaged sliced meat. In another, they actually closed down a whole store. They even have a hotline in some regions for managers when they suspect that employees are trying to form a union. There's an article from Financial Times about it, but I can't find it online though.... but here's a Wikipedia link.

EntropyWins

Oh I realize from the business side of things they don't want unions...but the employees don't much press for it amongst themselves. They seem happy with what they have....

Believe me, they are not happy. Walmart faces lawsuits constantly and it is just cheaper for them to settle them than to accept unions and the like. They will not allow unions. It is not a testament to the will of the workers, but a testament to Walmart's unwaivering will to crush any chance of union ever.

Lawsuits on what? You can't sue an employer because you want more money...
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I work at a sandwich shop as an adult and am clearly not making enough money. The government needs to step in and tell them to pay me at least $50,000 a year, because working as a sandwich artist just isn't cutting it for me.

Although part of the problem lies on Wal-Mart's part, think about what you said first. The people who work there are just as much of a problem as the business itself.

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#39 EntropyWins
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[QUOTE="EntropyWins"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Oh I realize from the business side of things they don't want unions...but the employees don't much press for it amongst themselves. They seem happy with what they have....

LJS9502_basic

Believe me, they are not happy. Walmart faces lawsuits constantly and it is just cheaper for them to settle them than to accept unions and the like. They will not allow unions. It is not a testament to the will of the workers, but a testament to Walmart's unwaivering will to crush any chance of union ever.

Lawsuits on what? You can't sue an employer because you want more money...

just type in 'walmart lawsuits' into google.

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#40 EntropyWins
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[QUOTE="EntropyWins"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Oh I realize from the business side of things they don't want unions...but the employees don't much press for it amongst themselves. They seem happy with what they have....

F1_2004

Believe me, they are not happy. Walmart faces lawsuits constantly and it is just cheaper for them to settle them than to accept unions and the like. They will not allow unions. It is not a testament to the will of the workers, but a testament to Walmart's unwaivering will to crush any chance of union ever.

Unions today are just a joke. Their members get paid inflated salaries compared to their education/abilities, and incompetence is no longer cause for getting fired. You pretty much have to die, shoot up cocaine or **** a hooker to lose your union job.

I agree unions suck. It would be much better to just have companies treat their employees with decency.

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#41 BuryMe
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Why single out Wal-Mart? Wal-Mart jobs are minimum wage jobs like any other minimum wage job.

BMD004

I agree. I don't get why walmart is always criticized for paying minimum wage.

But that having been said, it sounds like minimum wage in the much of the US is in dire need of on increase

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#42 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="F1_2004"][QUOTE="EntropyWins"] Believe me, they are not happy. Walmart faces lawsuits constantly and it is just cheaper for them to settle them than to accept unions and the like. They will not allow unions. It is not a testament to the will of the workers, but a testament to Walmart's unwaivering will to crush any chance of union ever.

EntropyWins

Unions today are just a joke. Their members get paid inflated salaries compared to their education/abilities, and incompetence is no longer cause for getting fired. You pretty much have to die, shoot up cocaine or **** a hooker to lose your union job.

I agree unions suck. It would be much better to just have companies treat their employees with decency.

It's a give and take situation where it's almost impssible to find a good balance.

Employers started treating their employees like crap, so they unionized to get better working conditions. That was good.

Now unions have started gaining too much power, and as said, incompetence is no longer a reason to get fired. That's bad.

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#43 EntropyWins
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Wait, you're complaining about how unskilled entry-level jobs pay minimum wage? Bagging groceries and running a cash register aren't jobs that are meant to support a family, they're just entry-level jobs for high-school kids and people going to school to work toward getting higher-paying jobs, whether or not with wal-mart.UT_Wrestler
You are right, people in entry level (supposedly "unskilled jobs") deserve to be exploited. There are thousands people who work full time at walmart and have no where else to go and do not have school as an option. They deserve to be resigned to a life of exploitation, right? It is their fault.
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#44 EntropyWins
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[QUOTE="BMD004"]

Why single out Wal-Mart? Wal-Mart jobs are minimum wage jobs like any other minimum wage job.

BuryMe

I agree. I don't get why walmart is always criticized for paying minimum wage.

But that having been said, it sounds like minimum wage in the much of the US is in dire need of on increase

Well, to start Walmart is the biggest/richest company while simultaneously having the most employees on gov't assistance (you would think the richer a company is, the more they could help their employees, but not so). Second, it doesn't help that the Walton family has given less than 1% of their wealth to charity. In contrast Bill Gates has given around 58% of his to charity.

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#45 chathuranga
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For as much money as Wal-Mart makes, you'd figure they offer more than just minimum wage for most of their employees

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But why would they when they don't have to?
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#46 hoola
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If the government didn't give that money away then Walmart wouldn't cost tax payers anything.

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#47 varlerblargle
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I worked there a year, They're just plain evil if you ask me.

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#48 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="BMD004"]

Why single out Wal-Mart? Wal-Mart jobs are minimum wage jobs like any other minimum wage job.

BuryMe

I agree. I don't get why walmart is always criticized for paying minimum wage.

But that having been said, it sounds like minimum wage in the much of the US is in dire need of on increase

Here's the real kicker. In every city I've ever lived in, Wal-Mart pays more than minimum wage.

I worked at Target for minimum wage, Wal-Mart paid a buck an hour more.

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#49 Guybrush_3
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[QUOTE="flipin_jackass"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] They don't unionize....so it's partly their fault.LJS9502_basic

Walmart has gone pretty far to avoid unions from successfully forming. In one case, a meat-cutting department successfully did it. A week later, they replaced the department by selling packaged sliced meat. In another, they actually closed down a whole store. They even have a hotline in some regions for managers when they suspect that employees are trying to form a union. There's an article from Financial Times about it, but I can't find it online though.... but here's a Wikipedia link.

Oh I realize from the business side of things they don't want unions...but the employees don't much press for it amongst themselves. They seem happy with what they have....

Obviously you have no idea how dirty walmart fights. They truly are the epitome of evil corporation. If employees of a store try to unionize they fire EVERYONE and shut down the whole store. They aren't happy, but they don't have a choice. It's absolutely disgusting.

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#50 Guybrush_3
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If the government didn't give that money away then Walmart wouldn't cost tax payers anything.

hoola

and people would either have to work way more or live off of ramen... Seems pretty crappy for the worlds "richest" nation.