We Need to Invent a New Term for Video Games. Let's Do It Right Here and Now.

Video games are not art.Hopkins_J

Video games are not art.Hopkins_J

Video games are not art.Hopkins_J

Yes they are whether you like it or not.

[QUOTE="Hopkins_J"]Video games are not art.redwolf22

Interactive video entertainment.

It removes the word "games" that has been polluted with the stigma that they are "just for kids."

Most games aren't art, so calling it "art" isn't a smart idea.

[QUOTE="IzzieWaru"]

Film is created purely for artistic purposes, movies are created for entertainment and profit.

Teenaged

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Virtual Animated Gaming Interactive Network Art.

Though, this would need an acronym.

the_foreign_guy

Yes, let's replace a name that perfectly describes the medium we are referring to.

I'm confused about the use of the term video. Does video refer to a linear sequence of images like a video tape, or can it be applied to any sequence of images displayed with electronic equipment?

Twiddly Games..

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="IzzieWaru"]

Film is created purely for artistic purposes, movies are created for entertainment and profit.

IzzieWaru

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We don't need to do anything.scorch-62

[QUOTE="scorch-62"]We don't need to do anything.Xx_Hopeless_xX

Think of how we took the two words "Motion Picture" and invented the new term - "Movie."

Rikusaki

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]We don't need to do anything.scorch-62

Also, ha, you're Abobo :P.. (whatever that is >__>)

Interactive video entertainment.

foxhound_fox

That's the best I can think of...

[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] yes you do dammit! Now think of a name :x!!Xx_Hopeless_xX

Also, ha, you're Abobo :P.. (whatever that is >__>)

How about "Electronic Playing for the Bot-less Mind".

I see where the TC is coming from, video games does sound a bit childish for, but at the same time it sounds more fun. Would you play a digital game, or go soak in some interactive media with your friends, I wouldn't.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Interactive video entertainment.

DJ-Lafleur

That's the best I can think of...

IVE? How would we procounce it in real life, EVE or IVY?

Interactive video entertainment.

It removes the word "games" that has been polluted with the stigma that they are "just for kids."

Most games aren't art, so calling it "art" isn't a smart idea.

foxhound_fox

Best post in the thread so far.

I would like to invent a new word that will shine more light onto the world of gaming.

Yes, let's replace a name that perfectly describes the medium we are referring to.

metroidfood

I dunno - 'boredom plug'.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="scorch-62"] Hopeless Entertainment. =3scorch-62

Also, ha, you're Abobo :P.. (whatever that is >__>)

Virtual Animated Gaming Interactive Network Art.

Though, this would need an acronym.

[QUOTE="IzzieWaru"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]I wasnt aware such a distinction existed and personally I dont believe there is.

Teenaged

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Since you apparently couldn't, I googled "difference between movie film" and came up with pages of definitions that confirm I'm not the only one using these definitions; most Americans that know anything about cinema also use these terms. Since I'm so nice, I'll even post a few.

http://www.englishforums.com/English/FilmVsMovie/vhnjp/post.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_a_movie_and_a_film

http://blogs.nlb.gov.sg/epcl/film/whats-the-difference-between-film-and-movie/

http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/syltguides/fullview/1GGTKVEDFUNJ1

[QUOTE="IzzieWaru"]

Film is created purely for artistic purposes, movies are created for entertainment and profit.

Teenaged

More to the point, I reject such classifications because they are not discreet and objective.

What the hell do you call something like The Dark Knight or the LOTR series? A movie in which "artistic purposes" certainly applies, but in which it was ABSOLUTELY created for entertainment or profit?

Nope, "film" is just a more pretentious and snobby term, just like how people who read comic books and are embarrased about reading comic books prefer to call them "graphic novels" instead. Something being labelled a "comic book", a "movie", a "film", or a "graphic novel" says absolutely nothing about how good it is. Says nothing about its artistic value, or whether or not it was a cheap cash-grab designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

And the same applies for videogames. You don't make a pile of feces more respectable by calling it a rose. Call it whatever you like...if it's still ****, people are going to criticize it as being ****. Videogames are videogames. That says nothing about their artistic value, it merely says that they are videogames. Why try finding a new name to make them sound more classy and respectable? If the industry wants to send out the idea that they are a more respectable and valid medium for artistic expression, then simply make better videogames. The videogames that have legitimate artistic value will be recognized as such.

And no...I'm never going to call a movie a "film" just because it's artsy. Film is an actual THING. If the movie doesn't use film, then it's not a freaking film. If I take a lump of clay and mold it into the shape of an apple, that doesn't make it a ****ing apple.

Best post in the thread so far.

I would like to invent a new word that will shine more light onto the world of gaming.

Rikusaki

Is that really necessary in a world in which 80 year old grandmothers own a ****ing Wii?

People game. Gaming has expanded WAY beyond the stereotypical demographic of the snot nosed pimply teen who can't get laid. A hell of a lot of people from all different walks of life play videogames in one form or another. And then take the kids who were gaming in the 70s and 80s. Now they are parents, and guess what kinds of toys many of them are gonna buy for their kids? Yep...videogames. It won't be long before pretty much EVERYONE at least occasionally has enjoyed one videogame or another.

There's no need to shine more light on the world of gaming. A hell of a lot of people game now (or have at one point in their lives) and it won't be long before that applies to nearly EVERYONE. There's no need to make up bull**** lebels to trick people into thinking that videogames are more respectable. The next step is to make videogames respectable, and that's only going to happen if more videogames BECOME respectable.

I don't think all "video games" should be lumped with any one moniker, as they are too diverse in what they represent and hope to achieve.

Let me break them down into these definitive classes:

1) Simulation - A simulation which is intended to portray a realistic situation as accurately as possible, whether it be a 3D sim or a hex/turn-based military strategy.

2) Interactive Story - Adventure games - SP RPG's; The closest to an interactive movie as possible.

3) Arcade - Emphasising scores and abstract twitch skills, aka classic old school arcade games.

4) Casual - Puzzle, silly stuff.

5) MMO - This can comprise a multitude of styles, but are ultimately nothing more than a glorified chatroom.

6) MP FPS - With varying degrees of strategy and realism, these are about caffeine and precision, and not much else; Shortest ping, fastest hardware, quickest reflexes.

Only 3, 4, and 6 fit the classic description of "video game".

Probably simulations and interactive stories (movies) should not be classified as merely games. As for MMO's, it depends, as they are a very mixed bag, depending.

I disagree. They are all GAMES, presented in a video format. They are still video games.

Now if you want to provide additionational classification and state that it is a specific TYPE of videogame. But it's still a videogame, in the same sense that horror movies are still movies.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="IzzieWaru"]

Film is created purely for artistic purposes, movies are created for entertainment and profit.

MrGeezer

More to the point, I reject such classifications because they are not discreet and objective.

What the hell do you call something like The Dark Knight or the LOTR series? A movie in which "artistic purposes" certainly applies, but in which it was ABSOLUTELY created for entertainment or profit?

Nope, "film" is just a more pretentious and snobby term, just like how people who read comic books and are embarrased about reading comic books prefer to call them "graphic novels" instead. Something being labelled a "comic book", a "movie", a "film", or a "graphic novel" says absolutely nothing about how good it is. Says nothing about its artistic value, or whether or not it was a cheap cash-grab designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

And the same applies for videogames. You don't make a pile of feces more respectable by calling it a rose. Call it whatever you like...if it's still ****, people are going to criticize it as being ****. Videogames are videogames. That says nothing about their artistic value, it merely says that they are videogames. Why try finding a new name to make them sound more classy and respectable? If the industry wants to send out the idea that they are a more respectable and valid medium for artistic expression, then simply make better videogames. The videogames that have legitimate artistic value will be recognized as such.

And no...I'm never going to call a movie a "film" just because it's artsy. Film is an actual THING. If the movie doesn't use film, then it's not a freaking film. If I take a lump of clay and mold it into the shape of an apple, that doesn't make it a ****ing apple.

Where did I ever say one was better than the other? Being a film DOESN'T make something automatically better, it just makes it purpose more obvious. I know plenty of movies that are better than many films I've seen.

electronic games, or e-games

I disagree. They are all GAMES, presented in a video format. They are still video games.

Now if you want to provide additionational classification and state that it is a specific TYPE of videogame. But it's still a videogame, in the same sense that horror movies are still movies.

MrGeezer

It all depends on your definition of "game". If the purpose of the digital interaction is merely for entertainment purposes, then perhaps it can all be considered "gaming" in a loose sense. On the other hand, one could argue that realistic sims are not games, as they are simulating real-life situations, and adventure games are not games, but choose-your-own-adventure stories (movies)...

electronic games, or e-games

wii_ds_mario

Virtual Animated Gaming Interactive Network Art.

Though, this would need an acronym.

the_foreign_guy

Virtual Animated Gaming Interactive Network Art.

Though, this would need an acronym.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="the_foreign_guy"]

Virtual Animated Gaming Interactive Network Art.

Though, this would need an acronym.

GHlegend77

virtu-funs...

Where did I ever say one was better than the other? Being a film DOESN'T make something automatically better, it just makes it purpose more obvious. I know plenty of movies that are better than many films I've seen.

IzzieWaru

What...no. Because by your definition, it's notobvious that it is a film until you have already established its purpose.

Virtual Animated Gaming Interactive Network Art.

Though, this would need an acronym.

the_foreign_guy

I am of the personal opinion that in the not so distant future the only way to make games more realistic and interactive is to plug ourselves directly into them via cortical shunts. So I think we should just skip a few steps and start calling them matrixes (I know this is a math term, but there are a ton of words with different uses).

Finger-operated super happy fun time.