We should be happy that g@y marriage is becoming a thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-YCdcnf_P8&feature=g-u-u

I really cant argue with that video. I openly welcome gay marriage now!

It shouldnt even be an issue in the first place.

It shouldnt even be an issue in the first place.

konvikt_17

Totally right. It should not be an issue at all in the first place lol but honestly I just wanted a reason to show off that vid =p

Being gay is a choice. There is nothing natural about it.Jebus213

It's perfectly natural by the fact that it occurs all over the place in nature. Penguins, girraffes, albatross, lions, monkeys, etc. have all been observed in natural habitats (not zoos) in homosexual relationships.

Grow up and get an education.

:roll:

Being gay is a choice. There is nothing natural about it.Jebus213

Oh boy, here we go!

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]Being gay is a choice. There is nothing natural about it.THE_DRUGGIE

Oh boy, here we go!

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]Being gay is a choice. There is nothing natural about it.br0kenrabbit

It's perfectly natural by the fact that it occurs all over the place in nature. Penguins, girraffes, albatross, lions, monkeys, etc. have all been observed in natural habitats (not zoos) in homosexual relationships.

Grow up and get an education.

:roll:

Let the ignorance begin!!

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]Being gay is a choice. There is nothing natural about it.ShadowsDemon

It's perfectly natural by the fact that it occurs all over the place in nature. Penguins, girraffes, albatross, lions, monkeys, etc. have all been observed in natural habitats (not zoos) in homosexual relationships.

Grow up and get an education.

:roll:

By saying "it's not natural", you are stating that it does not occur in nature. You are wrong. There is nothing to discuss.

No please, let's keep pretending that what two people do with their genitals at the end of the day is really important for the well-being of the modern world. I'm tired of all this blabla over economy, wars, pollution, healthcare. BORING.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

It's perfectly natural by the fact that it occurs all over the place in nature. Penguins, girraffes, albatross, lions, monkeys, etc. have all been observed in natural habitats (not zoos) in homosexual relationships.

Grow up and get an education.

:roll:

br0kenrabbit

By saying "it's not natural", you are stating that it does not occur in nature. You are wrong. There is nothing to discuss.

"Choice".

All the gays in countries with strongly conservative/fundamentalist societies have that moment where they realise "Boy, I feel like getting beaten up/discriminated or murdered today. This sounds like a rad idea. Lemme turn mah gay on."

And even if it WERE a choice... I couldn't care less?

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]Being gay is a choice. There is nothing natural about it.THE_DRUGGIE

Oh boy, here we go!

I didn't say it didn't happen in nature. ShadowsDemon

it is actually not naturalShadowsDemon

Do we really need to pull a dictionary out?

Actually, it is a choice. I'm not going to state my opinion on it, but it is actually not natural, considering the only way to have children is with a male and female, not of the same gender. Again, not taking a side, but in a way he's right...ShadowsDemon

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Actually, it is a choice. I'm not going to state my opinion on it, but it is actually not natural, considering the only way to have children is with a male and female, not of the same gender. Again, not taking a side, but in a way he's right...ShadowsDemon

By saying "it's not natural", you are stating that it does not occur in nature. You are wrong. There is nothing to discuss.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

By saying "it's not natural", you are stating that it does not occur in nature. You are wrong. There is nothing to discuss.

svenus97

[QUOTE="svenus97"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] I didn't say it didn't happen in nature. I merely said that from a life-cycle point of view it's not normal.ShadowsDemon

[QUOTE="svenus97"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] I didn't say it didn't happen in nature. I merely said that from a life-cycle point of view it's not normal.ShadowsDemon

So what about masturbation and oral sex with hetro couples, is all that wrong and un-natural also?

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="svenus97"] So straight couples that can't have children are unnatural?tenaka2

So what about masturbation and oral sex with hetro couples, is all that wrong and un-natural also?

Wrong and un-natural are not the same thing. Don't try to put words in his mouth and mash things together. Oh wait, your a panda, you shoot babies into walls.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] It is unnatural, there should be nothing physical stopping them from having children. If they can't then it's a physical and/or medical issue.Hatiko

So what about masturbation and oral sex with hetro couples, is all that wrong and un-natural also?

Wrong and un-natural are not the same thing. Don't try to put words in his mouth and mash things together. Oh wait, your a panda, you shoot babies into walls.

so oral sex is wrong?

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="svenus97"] So straight couples that can't have children are unnatural?tenaka2

So what about masturbation and oral sex with hetro couples, is all that wrong and un-natural also?

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

So what about masturbation and oral sex with hetro couples, is all that wrong and un-natural also?

tenaka2

Wrong and un-natural are not the same thing. Don't try to put words in his mouth and mash things together. Oh wait, your a panda, you shoot babies into walls.

so oral sex is wrong?

I never said that. Wrong and right are up to what you believe.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] It is unnatural, there should be nothing physical stopping them from having children. If they can't then it's a physical and/or medical issue.ShadowsDemon

So what about masturbation and oral sex with hetro couples, is all that wrong and un-natural also?

The definition of unnatural in this context is that it does not occur in nature. However its been proven to you that it occurs in hundreds of species for natural reasons.

I would propose that you try making up your own mind about such things and not allow other people and dogma determine your views on the world, be a free thinker, you might like it.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

So what about masturbation and oral sex with hetro couples, is all that wrong and un-natural also?

tenaka2

The definition of unnatural in this context is that it does not occur in nature. However its been proven to you that it occurs in hundreds of species for natural reasons.

I would propose that you try making up your own mind about such things and not allow other people and dogma determine your views on the world, be a free thinker, you might like it.

Be a free thinker and don't let other people determine your views! But let me do that!

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] I didn't say it was wrong. I said it was un-natural. Masturbation is un-natural but pretty much everyone does it. There's a difference, mate. Learn it.Hatiko

The definition of unnatural in this context is that it does not occur in nature. However its been proven to you that it occurs in hundreds of species for natural reasons.

I would propose that you try making up your own mind about such things and not allow other people and dogma determine your views on the world, be a free thinker, you might like it.

Be a free thinker and don't let other people determine your views! But let me do that!

I provided proven facts regarding 'unnatural'. Countering with dogma from a 2000 year old book is hardly free thinking.

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

The definition of unnatural in this context is that it does not occur in nature. However its been proven to you that it occurs in hundreds of species for natural reasons.

I would propose that you try making up your own mind about such things and not allow other people and dogma determine your views on the world, be a free thinker, you might like it.

tenaka2

Be a free thinker and don't let other people determine your views! But let me do that!

I provided proven facts regarding 'unnatural'. Countering with dogma from a 2000 year old book is hardly free thinking.

Okay, that is true. but he never stated that he got his ideas from religion or the bible. Unless he did say that and I missed it.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

Be a free thinker and don't let other people determine your views! But let me do that!

Hatiko

I provided proven facts regarding 'unnatural'. Countering with dogma from a 2000 year old book is hardly free thinking.

Okay, that is true. but he never stated that he got his ideas from religion or the bible. Unless he did say that and I missed it.

It has come up in the past, his position and reasons for it are clear, homosexuality threads are very common here.

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I provided proven facts regarding 'unnatural'. Countering with dogma from a 2000 year old book is hardly free thinking.

tenaka2

Okay, that is true. but he never stated that he got his ideas from religion or the bible. Unless he did say that and I missed it.

It has come up in the past, his position and reasons for it are clear, homosexuality threads are very common here.

I know they are common. I try to avoid them. Now I've reminded myself why.

Masturbation is un-naturalShadowsDemon

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I provided proven facts regarding 'unnatural'. Countering with dogma from a 2000 year old book is hardly free thinking.

tenaka2

Okay, that is true. but he never stated that he got his ideas from religion or the bible. Unless he did say that and I missed it.

It has come up in the past, his position and reasons for it are clear, homosexuality threads are very common here.

TBH I'm tired of hearing about it.....

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]Actually, it is a choice. I'm not going to state my opinion on it, but it is actually not natural, considering the only way to have children is with a male and female, not of the same gender. Again, not taking a side, but in a way he's right...meconate

[QUOTE="meconate"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]Actually, it is a choice. I'm not going to state my opinion on it, but it is actually not natural, considering the only way to have children is with a male and female, not of the same gender. Again, not taking a side, but in a way he's right...ShadowsDemon

This post displays a shocking lack of knowledge concerning biology.

We better step back a bit, do you acknowledge that humans are part of the ape family and have evolved over millions of years like all the other animal species on the planet?

do you acknowledge that humans are part of the ape familytenaka2

[QUOTE="meconate"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]Actually, it is a choice. I'm not going to state my opinion on it, but it is actually not natural, considering the only way to have children is with a male and female, not of the same gender. Again, not taking a side, but in a way he's right...ShadowsDemon

[citation needed]

You can force your brain to think a certain way, your can choose to look at a certain gender, but your d1ck (or vajajay) will tell you which gender(s) actually arouse you. That is an involuntary sexual response.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="meconate"] How is it possible to contradict yourself twice in one message... amazing. Homosexuality is not a choice, because you can't choose your feelings like that. Pure ignorance, is all this is.

jimkabrhel

[citation needed]

You can force your brain to think a certain way, your can choose to look at a certain gender, but your d1ck (or vajajay) will tell you which gender(s) actually arouse you. That is an involuntary sexual response.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="meconate"] How is it possible to contradict yourself twice in one message... amazing. Homosexuality is not a choice, because you can't choose your feelings like that. Pure ignorance, is all this is.

tenaka2

This post displays a shocking lack of knowledge concerning biology.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] You can choose your feelings. You can decide to be gay or not. It's as simple as that. I know plenty of people who decided on their sexual preference, myself included.ShadowsDemon

[citation needed]

You can force your brain to think a certain way, your can choose to look at a certain gender, but your d1ck (or vajajay) will tell you which gender(s) actually arouse you. That is an involuntary sexual response.

Have you been attracted to members of the same sex?

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] You can choose your feelings. You can decide to be gay or not. It's as simple as that. I know plenty of people who decided on their sexual preference, myself included.ShadowsDemon

This post displays a shocking lack of knowledge concerning biology.

You didn't ask any question and I responded to your statement. My did you remove the following from my post?

We better step back a bit, do you acknowledge that humans are part of the ape family and have evolved over millions of years like all the other animal species on the planet?

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] You can choose your feelings. You can decide to be gay or not. It's as simple as that. I know plenty of people who decided on their sexual preference, myself included.ShadowsDemon

[citation needed]

You can force your brain to think a certain way, your can choose to look at a certain gender, but your d1ck (or vajajay) will tell you which gender(s) actually arouse you. That is an involuntary sexual response.

So the attraction is innate to the person, but they aren't actually gay unless they follow through physcially? That's rich.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[citation needed]

You can force your brain to think a certain way, your can choose to look at a certain gender, but your d1ck (or vajajay) will tell you which gender(s) actually arouse you. That is an involuntary sexual response.

tenaka2

Have you been attracted to members of the same sex?