What are your thoughts on suicide?

[QUOTE="Banestyrelsen"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]:evil: My life is far from perfect. :evil: I've had more than my fair share of problems, none of which I care to share.

But that is irrelevant. I have a hard time believing there's a situation out there where suicide is the only answer.

xaos

It's not about the number of "answers". It's not simply about choosing one of the infinite solutions that don't involve suicide, or we would have no suicides. It's about genuinely not wanting to live anymore, usually preceded by years of serious philosophical contemplation.

Depends on what you understand by "serious philosophical contemplation". If you think I mean that these people sit around and compose carefully balanced, logical, scholarly essays on philosophy for peer review in their spare time, you are wrong. You are also quite stupid.

I am referring to the rather obvious fact that suicidal individuals seriously consider the philosophical questions of ultimacy in human existence. Does life really "matter", and if not what's the point of going on... etc. By seriously I mean that these thoughts have serious implications, since it directly affects whether their life will end tomorrow or next Christmas rather than in 30 years. It is irrelevant whether or not they "indicate" that they have such thoughts to people in their lives who would neither understand nor respect them anyway (like 50% of the people in this thread). What logic says they would?

I would find it far more remarkable if the people you refer to did not think about the meaning of life and the consequences of death for a very long time before they chose to end their lives. Regardless of how impulsive you may be, it's not a decision anyone makes lightly.

Personally, I hate people who view suicide victims as 'weak' or'pathetic'. Although Ive never had any one I know do it, some people have real problems and just can't see another way out. Not everyoneare as lucky as some people.

What are your thoughts?

zepman71

Agreed.

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Banestyrelsen"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]:evil: My life is far from perfect. :evil: I've had more than my fair share of problems, none of which I care to share.

But that is irrelevant. I have a hard time believing there's a situation out there where suicide is the only answer.

Banestyrelsen

It's not about the number of "answers". It's not simply about choosing one of the infinite solutions that don't involve suicide, or we would have no suicides. It's about genuinely not wanting to live anymore, usually preceded by years of serious philosophical contemplation.

Depends on what you understand by "serious philosophical contemplation". If you think I mean that these people sit around and compose carefully balanced, logical, scholarly essays on philosophy for peer review in their spare time, you are wrong. You are also quite stupid.

I am referring to the rather obvious fact that suicidal individuals seriously consider the philosophical questions of ultimacy in human existence. Does life really "matter", and if not what's the point of going on... etc. By seriously I mean that these thoughts have serious implications, since it directly affects whether their life will end tomorrow or next Christmas rather than in 30 years. It is irrelevant whether or not they "indicate" that they have such thoughts to people in their lives who would neither understand nor respect them anyway (like 50% of the people in this thread). What logic says they would?

I would find it far more remarkable if the people you refer to did not think about the meaning of life and the consequences of death for a very long time before they chose to end their lives. Regardless of how impulsive you may be, it's not a decision anyone makes lightly.

Nothing wrong with it. [QUOTE="Banestyrelsen"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Banestyrelsen"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]:evil: My life is far from perfect. :evil: I've had more than my fair share of problems, none of which I care to share.

But that is irrelevant. I have a hard time believing there's a situation out there where suicide is the only answer.

X360PS3AMD05

It's not about the number of "answers". It's not simply about choosing one of the infinite solutions that don't involve suicide, or we would have no suicides. It's about genuinely not wanting to live anymore, usually preceded by years of serious philosophical contemplation.

Depends on what you understand by "serious philosophical contemplation". If you think I mean that these people sit around and compose carefully balanced, logical, scholarly essays on philosophy for peer review in their spare time, you are wrong. You are also quite stupid.

I am referring to the rather obvious fact that suicidal individuals seriously consider the philosophical questions of ultimacy in human existence. Does life really "matter", and if not what's the point of going on... etc. By seriously I mean that these thoughts have serious implications, since it directly affects whether their life will end tomorrow or next Christmas rather than in 30 years. It is irrelevant whether or not they "indicate" that they have such thoughts to people in their lives who would neither understand nor respect them anyway (like 50% of the people in this thread). What logic says they would?

I would find it far more remarkable if the people you refer to did not think about the meaning of life and the consequences of death for a very long time before they chose to end their lives. Regardless of how impulsive you may be, it's not a decision anyone makes lightly.